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    Was showing another user in his symbols thread:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jw...n_intelligence

    Speculative claims and unconfirmed information

    According to Carol J. Howard, author of Dolphin Chronicles (1996), each of the two dolphin sub-brains has an independent blood supply. The two eyes of the dolphin are each connected to one of the two sub-brains.

    It is possible that, if they have two brains, dolphins never sleep with both brains at once. One brain sleeps while the other brain stays awake (perhaps so that the dolphins can breathe while asleep): this may account for the lack of REM sleep brain waves among dolphins.

    It has been long theorised that dolphins have a complex language, which may consist of visual symbols as interpretations of high frequency sound waves (see synaesthesia). Many scientists feel there is too little evidence for this claim, although some believe it is justified.

    http://www.molecularautism.com/content/4/1/40

    Background
    Synaesthesia is a neurodevelopmental condition in which a sensation in one modality triggers a perception in a second modality. Autism (shorthand for Autism Spectrum Conditions) is a neurodevelopmental condition involving social-communication disability alongside resistance to change and unusually narrow interests or activities. Whilst on the surface they appear distinct, they have been suggested to share common atypical neural connectivity.

    Methods
    In the present study, we carried out the first prevalence study of synaesthesia in autism to formally test whether these conditions are independent. After exclusions, 164 adults with autism and 97 controls completed a synaesthesia questionnaire, Autism Spectrum Quotient, and Test of Genuineness-Revised (ToG-R) online.

    Results
    The rate of synaesthesia in adults with autism was 18.9% (31 out of 164), almost three times greater than in controls (7.22%, 7 out of 97, P <0.05). ToG-R proved unsuitable for synaesthetes with autism.

    Conclusions
    The significant increase in synaesthesia prevalence in autism suggests that the two conditions may share some common underlying mechanisms. Future research is needed to develop more feasible validation methods of synaesthesia in autism.



    http://www.dolphinassistedtherapy.co...py_results.htm

    THE DOLPHIN ASSISTED THERAPY RESULTS.

    Voiceprint of the dolphin AnitaWe have developed a rehabilitation system for patients suffering from neurological disorders (in adults- chronic fatigue syndrome, in children - conditions brought about by a negative influence of the environment, enuresis, logoneuroses, phobias, depression, neurosthenia, infantile autism syndrome and cerebral palsy) based mainly on the contact of the patients with specially trained Black Sea bottlenose dolphins.

    1 The Black Sea bottlenose dolphin is the natural factor that exerts a healing effect on patients suffering from neurological disorders, mainly with a strong psychogenic component of the pathogenesis.

    2. The employment of the dolphin for therapeutic purposes is based on its positive attitude towards humans; desire to establish contact, ease of training and control, exotic appearance, large size and the ability to conduct treatment in an aquatic environment.

    3. The healing effect of the dolphin is realized most completely in a multilink system, doctor-coach-dolphin-patient. The process of therapy consists of several stages, such as psychological preparation of the patient, contacts between the patient and the dolphin, relaxing procedures after the contact and supportive psychotherapy after the course of direct dolphin-patient interactions has ended. The optimal period for the patient's direct involvement with the patient is 15-20 minutes once a day for a period of 7-10 days.

    4. The established mechanisms of dolphin therapy are: emotional stress with an elevation of psychological and physical activity of the patient and his or her responsiveness to external influences, including those of psychotherapeutic nature, retardation of pathological neuropsychological dominances and a formation of a positive attitude, improvement of psychological status and psychosomatic self-control, decrease in the strength of vegetative regulatory mechanisms.

    5. A system of prognosis of treatment outcomes has been developed, based on the behavior of the patient towards the dolphin during a test contact and an evaluation of the readiness of the dolphin to participate in a therapy session, based on its feeding activity and breathing rhythm.

    6. Dolphin therapy for patients suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome enables to reach significant improvement in 65.9±2.4% of cases in men and in 81.5±3.8% of cases in women. With thalasso therapy without a dolphin, improvement levels are at 30.1±2.9% for males and 60.5±2.7% for females, which is significantly (P<0.05) lower than with dolphin therapy.

    7 Children 5-10 years of age with neurological disorders associated with negative environmental influences showed a decrease of minimal brain dysfunction in 62.9 to 87.2% of cases, depending on the patient's age. In children between 7 and 10 years of age, the therapeutic effect was also manifested in decrease of headaches. The use of thalasso therapy resulted in significantly lower (P<0.01) improvement rates of 42.7 to 57.6%.

    8. Dolphin therapy of children between 5 and 12 years of age suffering from enuresis leads to a significant decrease of involuntary urination episodes. It is especially effective in the 5-6 year age group where improvement levels reach 90.5±1.3%, in comparison with 30.1±2.3% using thalasso therapy alone (P<0.001).

    9. The dolphin therapy course in children between 5 and ten years of age suffering from logo neurosis, supplemented by special "dolphin breathing" exercises resulted in speech improvement in 75.9±4.6% of cases (P<0.001) directly after the conclusion of the therapy and in 90.1±3.1% (P<0.001) when long-term effects are taken into account. Thalasso therapy without the dolphin resulted in no significant improvement.

    10. In children suffering from phobias, 88.2±4.5% (P<0.001) of patients showed significant improvement, with persistent remission observed in 67.2±1.5% (P<0.001). The use of thalassotherapy alone did not result in significant levels of improvement.

    11. The fraction of children between 5 and 15 years of age with considerable decrease of clinical signs of depression after dolphin therapy varies from 52.3±1.5% and 61.7±2.3%, depending on the age group. Thalasso therapy alone resulted in improvement levels of 10±1.4% to 23.1±2.3% of cases, which is significantly lower (P<0.05).

    12. Dolphin therapy of children suffering from neurasthenia, leads to marked improvement in their condition in 78.4±2.4% of cases (P<0.001). Thalasso therapy alone does not have a statistically significant effect.

    13. Dolphin therapy exerts a considerable healing effect on children between 5 and 10 years of age afflicted with infantile autism syndrome. Clinical improvement with respect to day symptoms (autism, auto stimulation, conservative behavior) was observed in different age subgroups in 64.8-82.6% of cases. With respect to night symptoms (sleep disorders, enuresis, ritual behavior, aggressiveness) the improvement was observed in 74.3-88.2% of cases. Thalasso therapy without involvement of dolphins gave no significant improvement.

    14. Dolphin therapy had effected on the main clinic manifestations of the children suffering from cerebral palsy but significantly improved patients' psychological status and social adaptation.


    http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episo...n-healing/859/

    With their curious nature and trademark “smile” — formed by delicately curved jaws — dolphins have become the symbol of the friendly playmate of the sea. Indeed, as NATURE’s Wisdom of the Wild shows, some dolphins do seem to form special attachments with people — including disabled children who fail to respond to other kinds of therapy.

    Some parents, in fact, say the chance to swim with captive dolphins has changed their child’s life. Withdrawn autistic children, for instance, have responded to the marine mammals in remarkable ways — forging bonds that have proved difficult with human playmates. The idea, say psychologists familiar with the technique, is that the promise of swimming with such a large and fascinating creature provides an incentive to try different — and sometimes difficult — therapeutic tasks.

    One of the prime movers behind Dolphin Human Therapy, as it is known, is David Nathanson, a clinical psychologist living in Florida. In the late 1970s, he used the reward of swimming with dolphins to motivate children with Down’s syndrome to learn. He found that the children who worked with dolphins learned up to four times faster — and remembered more of what they learned — than those in conventional classroom settings.

    In the 1980s, “Dr. Dave,” as he became known, organized a dolphin-assisted therapy program in the Florida Keys that eventually grew into a full-fledged center in Key West. Since 1994, it has worked with children from over 37 states and 20 countries.

    While some researchers dispute the effectiveness of the program, others say the work with dolphins parallels the success of other animal therapy programs, which use everything from pet mice to racehorses to help people cope with problems in their lives. But dolphin therapy can be prohibitively expensive. To address that problem, Nathanson and others are working on creating a “virtual dolphin experience,” which recaptures the joy and freedom of swimming with the animals using video and computer technologies. If successful, virtual dolphins will eventually allow some children to get at least part of the thrill of the experience without leaving home.



    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/19/wo...t=hp_inthenews

    Group: Stressed, bloody dolphins await slaughter in Japan's Taiji Cove
    By Laura Smith-Spark, CNN
    January 19, 2014 -- Updated 1713 GMT (0113 HKT)

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    Default Re: Any Cryptanalysts on Avalon? Hobbyist Group Sound Interesting? Visual Language Project!

    Treat for Tesla: (The Codebreakers- The Comprehensive History... book as pdf)
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/iq85ra6a4y...20Internet.pdf

    Thank you for this thread. I have no time right at this point to devote, but by the end of the month I most definitely will!

    Someone asked if anyone thinks in picture, well, I do. It is much fun. Especially when I need to play catch up when I need to explain a thought to someone. But have no problems with the cats and dogs, they do understand me .
    Gotta go now, but will come back later.
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    Still curious about "Thinking in Pictures"!

    p.s. that recent scuffle between CIA and that senator, the CIA man was wearing the weirdest blue tie.
    It looked like a digital Kryptos tie lol

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    Default Re: Any Cryptanalysts on Avalon? Hobbyist Group Sound Interesting? Visual Language Project!

    THe NSA facebook page has a few challenges in its photo albums, might be fun to look at.
    this one is from sept 11 2012 (sigh):



    Quote Carlos A Sfc Ret The number are separated by division of 2 or 1, take the one that are divisible by 2, (EVENS)
    1 20108,
    2 22710
    3 07550
    4 97408
    5 08102
    6 03440
    7 30972
    8 30590
    9 95696
    10 50700
    11 57018
    12 00192
    1317004
    14 39062
    15 08566
    16 86270
    17 50880
    18 23172
    19 34090
    20 06908
    take the one that are divisible by 1,
    ODDS
    1 90973
    2 38117
    3 20691
    4 91209
    5 23005
    6 27983
    7 60425
    8 00991
    9 70139
    10 60209
    11 72109
    12 41009
    13 40611

    This was common use in the old German ENIGMA key system
    using 5 rotors system or the Old Cipher books.
    ODDS were word, phrase, color or num, etc
    EVENS were verbs, adverbs, quotations, etc
    Answer is what is the starting point in the Rotor or Cipher book. now day we use digital tones or ASCII codes for our coding
    by changing the tone or ASCII, we can create a cipher book like the old days






    p.s. remember that weird film about the disabled kid who breaks a hardcore code?
    IRL people w/ stress disorders are NOT that good at crypto.

    i suspect my stress disorder keeps me from objective analysis

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    I found a superb project for Avalon hehe

    on Wikipedia while researching "greek pi disc" I ran into the Phaistos Disc, whose message remain undecoded to this day.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaistos_Disc

    Quote The Phaistos Disc (also spelled Phaistos Disk, Phaestos Disc) is a disk of fired clay from the Minoan palace of Phaistos on the Greek island of Crete, possibly dating to the middle or late Minoan Bronze Age (2nd millennium BC). It is about 15 cm (5.9 in) in diameter and covered on both sides with a spiral of stamped symbols. Its purpose and meaning, and even its original geographical place of manufacture, remain disputed, making it one of the most famous mysteries of archaeology. This unique object is now on display at the archaeological museum of Heraklion.

    The disc was discovered in 1908 by the Italian archaeologist Luigi Pernier in the Minoan palace-site of Phaistos, and features 241 tokens, comprising 45 unique signs, which were apparently made by pressing hieroglyphic "seals" into a disc of soft clay, in a clockwise sequence spiraling toward the disc's center.

    The Phaistos Disc captured the imagination of amateur and professional archeologists, and many attempts have been made to decipher the code behind the disc's signs. While it is not clear that it is a script, most attempted decipherments assume that it is; most additionally assume a syllabary, others an alphabet or logography. Attempts at decipherment are generally thought to be unlikely to succeed unless more examples of the signs are found, as it is generally agreed that there is not enough context available for a meaningful analysis.

    Although the Phaistos Disc is generally accepted as authentic by archaeologists, a few scholars believe that the disc is a forgery or a hoax.

    since there is no key and no expert for the Phaistos problem, seems like good for beginners who are intelligent but lack background in crypto.








    Quote In his work on decipherment, Benjamin Schwartz also refers to the Phaistos Disc as "the first movable type".




    Signs
    There are 242 tokens on the disc, comprising 45 unique signs. Many of these 45 signs represent easily identifiable every-day things. In addition to these, there is a small diagonal line that occurs underneath the final sign in a group a total of 18 times. The disc shows traces of corrections made by the scribe in several places. The 45 symbols were numbered by Arthur Evans from 01 to 45, and this numbering has become the conventional reference used by most researchers. Some symbols have been compared with Linear A characters by Nahm,[15] Timm,[3] and others. Other scholars (J. Best, S. Davis) have pointed to similar resemblances with the Anatolian hieroglyphs, or with Egyptian hieroglyphs (A. Cuny). In the table below, the character "names" as given by Louis Godart (1995) are given in upper case; where other description or elaboration applies, they are given in lower case.
    refer to chart at link here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaistos_Disc#Signs


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    ok the nearest thing to explaining the Phaistos disc function comes from the far east, mountain worship

    they made these sun discs too, except rather than a circle the codes are written in a spiral w/ the center being the most important part.

    in Indian culture these objects are called "YANTRAS" and they are a raised disc of metal with concentric circles, the centre representing god/mountaintop.
    of course the Hindu religion was very static, one's place didn't change much in life.

    so the difference between the encoding of the discs these different groups of people made could be as simple as a philosophical belief in ascendancy.


    I guess once we agree on whether Olympus is accessible we can start agreeing on language and code lol


    Quote Yantra (यन्त्र) is the Sanskrit word for a mystical diagram, especially diagrams or amulets supposed to possess occult powers in astrological or magical benefits in the Tantric traditions of the Indian religions. Traditionally such symbols are used in Eastern mysticism to balance the mind or focus it on spiritual concepts. The act of wearing, depicting, enacting and/or concentrating on a yantra is held to have spiritual or astrological or magical benefits in the Tantric traditions of the Indian religions.

    Shapes and patterns commonly employed in yantra include squares, triangles, circles and floral patterns but may also include more complex and detailed symbols, for instance:
    The lotus flower typically represents chakras, with each petal representing a psychic propensity (or vritti) associated with that chakra;
    A dot, or bindu, represents the starting point of creation or the infinite, unexpressed cosmos;
    The shatkona (şaţkoņa) (Sanskrit name for a Hexagram) is composed of a balance between:
    An upwards triangle which according to Tantra denotes energy, or more specifically action and service (seva). It may also denote spiritual aspiration, the element of fire, or Shiva. It is also said to represent the static substratum of the cosmos;[citation needed]
    A downwards triangle which according to Tantra denotes spiritual knowledge. It may also denote the creative power of the cosmos, fecundity, the element of water, or Shakti;
    A swastika represents good luck, welfare, prosperity or spiritual victory;
    Bija mantras (usually represented as characters of Devanāgarī that correspond to the acoustic roots of a particular chakra or vritti).

    Geometric element meanings:
    Circle = Energy of the element water
    Square = Energy of the element earth
    Upward-facing Triangle = Energy of the element fire; energy
    Downward-facing Triangle = Energy of the element water; knowledge
    Diagonal line = Energy of the element air
    Horizontal line = Energy of the element water
    Vertical line = Energy of the element fire
    Point = Energy of the element ether




    a Hittite seal:




    from the work of the cultist and leader Joseph Smith:



    Quote Facsimile No. 2 is a disc with numerous figures and hieroglyphic inscriptions. In Smith's purported translation of the text, he explained that the central figure represented "Kolob," the first creation nearest to the "residence of God." Other figures related to priesthood, various planets and stars, the measurement of time and "God sitting upon his throne." However, this object is known as a hypocephalus, a magical disc placed under the head of a mummy to aid the person in his journey after death. The figures represent well-known Egyptian deities. The Mormon copy is similar to a number of other such objects in various Egyptian collections around the world.[67] Smith identified figure 7 (upside-down seated figure in lower right area) as "God sitting upon his throne," while Egyptologists identify the figure as Min, the Egyptian god of male sexual potency, and is shown with an erection.
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    Quote I ran into the Phaistos Disc, whose message remain undecoded to this day.

    Perhaps not. Recent research seems to have found a "key" in the disk...and it seems to go along with the center of one side of the disc and the Goddess theory. First the video and site:



    http://www.teicrete.gr/daidalika/pag...k_codification

    If you look at the center point of the disk it contains a flower or "Poppy".



    The Minoan Goddess:



    Has poppy bulbs on her crown.

    Suffice it to say he may be quite correct in his assumption that this "key" does in fact lead off as a prayer or ritual to that particular Goddess.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppy_goddess

    The Consumption of Psychoactive Plants During Religious Rituals: The Roots of Common Symbols and Figures in Religions and Myths:

    (Scroll down to the Minoan goddess...page 283 +)

    https://www.academia.edu/7411225/The...ions_and_Myths

    The Minoans seem to have worshiped primarily goddesses, which has been described as a "matriarchal religion".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_religion

    So it seems to fit in quite well.

    Additional link:

    http://phys.org/news/2014-10-phaisto...r-goddess.html
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    I think you're right.
    The symbol on the disc that looks like a circle with 7 dots, reminds me of the dried seed pod of a poppy as well.

    you are super observant btw. those poppy bulbs on her head are kind of small!
    pinterest won't let me link the good pic so here:

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    The Phaitos Disk is a DINNER or FEAST planner.

    You read it from the centre outwards. Each is an instruction for attaining a function in order of priority.

    No ruddy gods involved.

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