Win every 911 Debate with this one Fact

[Referee]

I found this to be very well put together and very interesting. A good Idea!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=509xQgcoMN8

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=a4FkO5ry1uo

[Milneman]

Well.....

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/wtc6_5.html

What Caused the Large Holes Visible from Above


Some reports suggested that explosions were responsible for the holes in WTC 6 and WTC 5. 1 The depths of the holes have been cited as evidence of this, as have their clean profiles.

However, it does seem plausible that falling pieces from the breakup of the North Tower could have created the holes. The steel in just the upper half of the Tower's northeast wall weighed several thousand tons. It can be imagined, given the degree of mushrooming in the Tower collapse, that Building 6 received most of the weight of the Tower's northeast wall. Thousands of tons falling from a thousand feet could have crushed all eight stories of such a building. Moreover, the rectangular shape of the hole, and the fact that it runs the length of the Tower's northeast wall (whose remnants can be seen in the left side of the photo), suggests that it corresponds to the region of heaviest steel fallout from that wall. If the Tower continued to disintegrate in the uniform manner seen before dust clouds obscured the region of breakup, it is easy to imagine that the column-and-spandrel panels of the perimeter wall would be blown off fairly consistently in the direction perpendicular to the wall. That would result in a roughly rectangular distribution of fallout.


Other evidence cited to support the idea that there were explosions in Building 6, and Building 5 as well, is a photo showing a dust cloud rising higher than the top of 47-story Building 7, in the area of WTC 5 and 6. Proponents of the explosion theory have suggested the photo was taken around 9 AM, just after the South Tower was hit. But that photograph actually appears to have been taken just after the South Tower collapsed. Note that no part of the facade of the South Tower is visible in this photo taken from the north-northwest. Although the South Tower was behind the North Tower, a section of its northwest wall would have been visible to the right of the North Tower, were it still standing. The rising cloud is clearly part of the immense cloud of dust from the destruction of WTC 2. As the South Tower fell, the dust clouds raced across the plaza and were deflected upward when they encountered Buildings 5 and 6. The upwelling of columns of dust to over the height of Building 7 is clearly seen on videos of the subsequent North Tower collapse.


A more detailed analysis of the photograph can be found on the nerdcities.com/guardian website. 2 Note that the same alleged explosion is taken by some as evidence of the explosion of a fuel tank in Building 7, even though the cloud is on the wrong side of the building and looks nothing like exploding diesel fuel would look if it were possible for a diesel fuel tank to explode.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I keep wondering how many buildings had gold and other assets under them,
and whether these assets got Goldfingered,
and whether this paranoia is shared by Germany,
which is behind the coming bank run (!),
...that's about all, lol

Start Wars Episode 1: The Great Plane Robbery!!



p.s. on a more serious note: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...g-was-removed-

16th December 2012 06:55 Link to Post #1
Tesla_WTC_Solution
Angry I need advice (my Wordpress blog was removed)
So guys.

I have this website. For about a year I've known that someone (not sure who though) wants my blog taken down. The first time was after I posted something in February 2012 regarding Helical beams and destruction of the WTC. When Alex Jones mentioned those 300 blogs censored earlier this year, mine was ironically one of those (the only cool club I'm in though).

Well, after Jesse Ventura and Fred Bell went live with their WTC Tesla Death ray theories, and of course Fred Bell has died since that show aired, my website was sabotaged twice. The first time, someone got my PASSWORD and took not just one article but a whole category off the webpage. The category was 9-11 tesla theory confirmed.

Then the last time, the whole page was disabled with nothing more for me than a dashboard message saying I broke "Wordpress TOS". That has got to be hard to do, btw.
I know many people write much worse things than was on nuclearnuttery.

And now the Memory Hole, aptly named, is the central focus of my life for a week.

What would you do if you had some of it [blog] backed up but not all?
Would you rebuild in better taste or give up the literary ghost?
Is blogging a sign of mental illness or is it creative?

Was there ever a point to writing when people can destroy my life at the press of a button.

Here are some google terms for short version of WTC tesla research:

Magneto-elasticity of iron
induction of current into iron
warping iron with magnetic field
cold sublimation of iron through electromagnetics
helical wave plasma production
induction and plasma
generating a wave through a plasma
VSMPDT NASA prototype
projekt thor
die glocke
haarp
cern lhc

dr. fred bell
dr. fred bell death ray
dr. fred bell mysterious death after tv appearance
dr. fred bell hotel assassination
dr. judy wood
scientist deaths last 20 years
my life is in danger

1/19/1999 ge bae handover of power
marconi systems bae systems
bae corruption
bae pension looting scandal
bae BANDAR DEATH
bae bush raytheon global hawk
pentagon missile hole

pinpoint induction
EBOMB
tesla coils
remote nuclear detonation
marconi array

steel melted
molten steel
radioactive steel
radioactive gold
gold to iron
wtc controlled radio wave demolition

tesla helical waves

JOHN HUTCHISON effect
HUTCHISON youtube helical beam

hearing from God
mediums
black hole voices
mount helicon
the sybils
ted gunderson and nikola tesla walk again

thanks for posting that video, OP.

my neighbors are banging on the walls,but i love the guy's accent lol

p.s. the brits and americans used to blame the irish for everything.
fenian fire etc. but the truth is much worse.

[Sloppyjoe]

There is no such thing as winning an argument. When people begin to associate their feelings with their beliefs they cannot let go of them no matter how right or wrong it is.

[gnostic9]

Posted by Tesla_WTC_Solution (here)
I keep wondering how many buildings had gold and other assets under them,
and whether these assets got Goldfingered,
and whether this paranoia is shared by Germany,
which is behind the coming bank run (!),
...that's about all, lol

Start Wars Episode 1: The Great Plane Robbery!!



p.s. on a more serious note: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...g-was-removed-

16th December 2012 06:55 Link to Post #1
Tesla_WTC_Solution
Angry I need advice (my Wordpress blog was removed)
So guys.

I have this website. For about a year I've known that someone (not sure who though) wants my blog taken down. The first time was after I posted something in February 2012 regarding Helical beams and destruction of the WTC. When Alex Jones mentioned those 300 blogs censored earlier this year, mine was ironically one of those (the only cool club I'm in though).

Well, after Jesse Ventura and Fred Bell went live with their WTC Tesla Death ray theories, and of course Fred Bell has died since that show aired, my website was sabotaged twice. The first time, someone got my PASSWORD and took not just one article but a whole category off the webpage. The category was 9-11 tesla theory confirmed.

Then the last time, the whole page was disabled with nothing more for me than a dashboard message saying I broke "Wordpress TOS". That has got to be hard to do, btw.
I know many people write much worse things than was on nuclearnuttery.

And now the Memory Hole, aptly named, is the central focus of my life for a week.

What would you do if you had some of it [blog] backed up but not all?
Would you rebuild in better taste or give up the literary ghost?
Is blogging a sign of mental illness or is it creative?

Was there ever a point to writing when people can destroy my life at the press of a button.

Here are some google terms for short version of WTC tesla research:

Magneto-elasticity of iron
induction of current into iron
warping iron with magnetic field
cold sublimation of iron through electromagnetics
helical wave plasma production
induction and plasma
generating a wave through a plasma
VSMPDT NASA prototype
projekt thor
die glocke
haarp
cern lhc

dr. fred bell
dr. fred bell death ray
dr. fred bell mysterious death after tv appearance
dr. fred bell hotel assassination
dr. judy wood
scientist deaths last 20 years
my life is in danger

1/19/1999 ge bae handover of power
marconi systems bae systems
bae corruption
bae pension looting scandal
bae BANDAR DEATH
bae bush raytheon global hawk
pentagon missile hole

pinpoint induction
EBOMB
tesla coils
remote nuclear detonation
marconi array

steel melted
molten steel
radioactive steel
radioactive gold
gold to iron
wtc controlled radio wave demolition

tesla helical waves

JOHN HUTCHISON effect
HUTCHISON youtube helical beam

hearing from God
mediums
black hole voices
mount helicon
the sybils
ted gunderson and nikola tesla walk again

thanks for posting that video, OP.

my neighbors are banging on the walls,but i love the guy's accent lol

p.s. the brits and americans used to blame the irish for everything.
fenian fire etc. but the truth is much worse.

Think about this- does gold or anything considered precious by the establishment. mean anything, as to what our hearts realy feel? Be You. Be Alive! Love to you Tesla!

[Carmody]

My favorite shot is the angled beam cut from behind the standing fireman.

It is now being brought into photoshop sites to prove it is 'fake'. (to give it a history) (two false backgrounds to deflect questions)

The latest I saw was that it was being explained away as a rescue or associated cut.

No one in any rescue demolition situation, is going to be using or trying a 45 degree angled sliding demolition cut in a rescue environment, not that I'm aware of. If pieces are being lifted away with cranes, then a 45degree cut makes zero sense. Making a 45degree cut in a free fall environment with no crane, also makes no sense. The only place a 45 degree thermite cut makes sense, is in a true demolition situation.

The other paper trail is the joint ownership of the security firm for the towers, by Niel Bush (son of George Bush Senior, brother of George Bush Junior and Jeb Bush), who sold off his percentage some months before, and the record of the security systems for the towers being revamped for about 30-35 days, all night, every night, just before he ended his ownership, IIRC. They worked in the towers all night, for that many days, with the security systems being shut down.

[King Arthur]

A variety of explosive devices were used as well as the black ops device. Do not allow their 'divide and conquer' tactics to succeed. Remember the parable of the blind men and the elephant. They used a scalar weapon but if truthers pursue that path, it will not succeed in a US court of law. Gordon Duff explained that during his interview with Pete Santilli.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yWR3iSkk_lI

There's a transcript of that show at:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/121331717/...eransToday-com

9:54 Pete:
Why do we not want to bring Dr. Judy Wood's evidence public, do you think that's being suppressed economically? What is the reason we would not want to bring that forward?

10:07 Gordon:
I can tell you very simply, is that people do want to bring this forward, and for this reason, because Judy Wood's information involves blaming 9/11 on a technology so classified that no criminal case could ever be won. Because they can immediately quash the case based on national security. So Judy Wood falls into their hands. You'd be better off saying they blew it up with dynamite, though an entire train load as it would have to be 50 miles long okay? You know how much energy we're talking about here, because everything she's saying; the problem is is that it feeds into their hands. It's not that they want her silenced....

[King Arthur]

You'd be far better off pursuing the nuclear demolition route. After all that is what the cabal has been telling us for over 12 years now, if people care to examine that.

They like to hide the truth in plain sight. And if people do not protest nor object, their silence is interpreted to mean that they have consented to whatever bad thing the cabal has done.

What is the name of the place where the World Trade Center once stood?
They call it Ground Zero. Everyone calls it Ground Zero.

And what does 'ground zero' mean?

Until 9/11, it had one meaning - it's what you call a place that has been nuked.
Listen to this song
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VYm-GioEHxk

After 9/11, the US government, guilty as hell, sent people out to switch all the dictionaries in the public domain. The replacements differed only in the meaning of 'ground zero'. They show extra definitions for that term, to obfuscate the original single meaning.

For example, if you have a genuine old Merriam-Webster dictionary, you would see this:
ground zero n (1946) : the point directly above, below, or at which a nuclear explosion occurs.

The replacement books (even of old editions) show two extra definitions and this is what you'll see:
ground zero n (1946) 1 : the point directly above, below, or at which a nuclear explosion occurs. 2: the center or origin of rapid, intense, or violent activity or change 3: the very beginning : SQUARE ONE

Have a look at this video:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mBQuoPi_grw
At 6:05 mins, he shows the old and new definitions of 'ground zero'.

[King Arthur]

Have you noted Gordon Duff's article here?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/12...-executed-911/
Which 9/11 is real?

In 2007, the FBI flew a team to Bangkok to interview former Soviet nuclear intelligence specialist Dimitri Khalezov. Khalezov told the FBI that, in the morning of September 12, 2001, he attended a breakfast gathering with Mossad Operations Chief Mike Harari and his son along with other Israeli operatives.

Khalezov reported to the FBI that this gathering was to celebrate the 9/11 attacks, not as Netanyahu had said, as a “fortunate happenstance for Israel” but as a Mossad attack on the United States. At that meeting, Harari also claimed credit for a role in the Oklahoma City bombing. According to Khalezov, Harari was courting him to join their group for an upcoming operation, a bombing attack on Bali, scheduled for 2002.

On October 12, 2002, a huge explosive device devastated nearly a square mile killing 202 people. An Islamic group was blamed, just as with not just 9/11 but, initially, Oklahoma City as well.

Khalezov told FBI agents that Harari claimed nuclear weapons were used to bring down the twin towers on 9/11. Harari also said he got a “cruise type” missile, a Soviet “Granit” for the Pentagon attack, purchased through Victor Bout, the “Lord of War” played by Nicholas Cage in the film of the same name.....


In a 2010 interview, Khalezov explained that you can't build a skyscraper in NYC without an approved demolition plan. On 9/11, the World Trade Center's demolition plan was put into action to demolish the complex.

Khalezov learned of this demolition plan from his job in the Soviet Union. He had worked in the nuclear intelligence unit and under an agreement between the Soviet Union and the USA, each country was obliged to inform the other of peaceful uses of nuclear explosions. The WTC was built with 3 thermo-nuclear charges in its foundations.

Note: underground nuclear explosions do not produce mushroom clouds. This is only ever seen when the explosion takes place above ground. On 9/11, the explosions were deep underground.

More info:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...ol_911_154.htm

You can watch the 2010 interview at:
http://www.disclose.tv/forum/dimitri...st-t21675.html
Video # 4 - WTC's demolition plan
Video # 14 - WTC 7 (which fell ½ hour AFTER the BBC announced its collapse).
Videos # 24/25 - chronic radiation sickness of WTC responders (their cancers are not due to asbestos poisoning)

[Spookyb4]

Non-believer

[ljwheat]

Very true you can not stop people from believing any thing. So instead set up like myth busters -- reconstruct just one wall of the original trade center ,, put a plain on a rocket sled and run it in to that concrete reinforced steal exact replica of the trade center wall… Aluminum plain - V - concrete and steal. A monkey could give the end results………… sigh.. Aluminum v steal ? Think about it ,, this can be proven lol care to call myth busters,, lol they would never air it. Exposing the Government official story. Lol

[Fellow Aspirant]

Good stuff.

If anyone would like an in-depth presentation of the original source of this research, I would urge a visit to Dr. Judy's older, original site, "The Journal of 9/11 Research and 9/11 Issues" which thankfully is still online. The link is here ...

http://www.drjudywood.com/

It's a vast compilation of her research findings and conclusions; it will take hours of exploration to work through. If you want to quickly see her collection of pictures about the holes, specifically, scroll down to the heading just below the map of Manhattan, to the heading marked:

Star Wars Directed-Energy Weapons (DEW), (brought to you by the Star Wars Program) and click on the tab labelled ["holes", page 4]

You'll be taken a large collection of pics, with labels and explanations.

She is adamant that the holes are the result of Directed Energy Beam weapons, not explosions or fires or debris impacts. Once you take a close look at the evidence, as her pictures allow, and read her descriptions of the circumstances present at the site, you will be compelled to arrive at the same conclusion.



For me, the biggest, first and most obvious shock was and is the stunning circular shapes of the holes. Cookie cutter perfect, they are evidence of a force that has literally bored straight down through eight storeys of concrete and steel, with no sign of heat (burned paper or wood) or masses (eight storeys' worth) piled debris at the bottom.

Dr. Judy has nailed the effects perfectly. Buy her book! The remaining mysteries are the who, how and why.

Please look elsewhere on this site as well ( P.A.s 911 thread ) for more info.

Namaste,

B.

[donk]

I keep wondering how many buildings had gold and other assets under them,

I think gold is just icing on the cake, and it would have been easier to get out another way...the cake being the insurance money for the whole thing and the insider trading done on and around that day...and all just bonuses for what the primary objective probably was in my opinion: the evidence and financial records from the SEC and other regulators and such housed in the various buildings in the complex, coupled with the hearts and minds of American, captured for a moment to allow whateverthe**** the "government" wanted to do to start off the century.

Remember Enron? Personal freedom?

Remember before we publicly exported "democracy"?

[Referee]

Directed energy weapons.....or TTA's

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oAqbBWzRIAA

[Eram]

Posted by Carmody (here)
My favorite shot is the angled beam cut from behind the standing fireman.

It is now being brought into photoshop sites to prove it is 'fake'. (to give it a history) (two false backgrounds to deflect questions)

The latest I saw was that it was being explained away as a rescue or associated cut.

No one in any rescue demolition situation, is going to be using or trying a 45 degree angled sliding demolition cut in a rescue environment, not that I'm aware of. If pieces are being lifted away with cranes, then a 45degree cut makes zero sense. Making a 45degree cut in a free fall environment with no crane, also makes no sense. The only place a 45 degree thermite cut makes sense, is in a true demolition situation.

The other paper trail is the joint ownership of the security firm for the towers, by Niel Bush (son of George Bush Senior, brother of George Bush Junior and Jeb Bush), who sold off his percentage some months before, and the record of the security systems for the towers being revamped for about 30-35 days, all night, every night, just before he ended his ownership, IIRC. They worked in the towers all night, for that many days, with the security systems being shut down.

What shot are you talking about Carmody? Do you mean to say that there is a photo with a steal beam that is cut in a way that would only make sense in a situation when termite is used?

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

What I was saying is,

the gold wasn't moved,

IT WAS DESTROYED



doh!

making other people's gold MORE VALUABLE

but don't mind me, i dont' have any gold myself, actually.

[Frederick Jackson]

It was building 7 going down that made be a believer.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8T2_nedORjw#t=37

I did not even know about the other buildings going down!

[McMaster]

Posted by Eram (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
My favorite shot is the angled beam cut from behind the standing fireman.

It is now being brought into photoshop sites to prove it is 'fake'. (to give it a history) (two false backgrounds to deflect questions)

The latest I saw was that it was being explained away as a rescue or associated cut.

No one in any rescue demolition situation, is going to be using or trying a 45 degree angled sliding demolition cut in a rescue environment, not that I'm aware of. If pieces are being lifted away with cranes, then a 45degree cut makes zero sense. Making a 45degree cut in a free fall environment with no crane, also makes no sense. The only place a 45 degree thermite cut makes sense, is in a true demolition situation.

The other paper trail is the joint ownership of the security firm for the towers, by Niel Bush (son of George Bush Senior, brother of George Bush Junior and Jeb Bush), who sold off his percentage some months before, and the record of the security systems for the towers being revamped for about 30-35 days, all night, every night, just before he ended his ownership, IIRC. They worked in the towers all night, for that many days, with the security systems being shut down.

What shot are you talking about Carmody? Do you mean to say that there is a photo with a steal beam that is cut in a way that would only make sense in a situation when termite is used?

I remembered seeing that back in the day. With google found this:

NWM. Linking forbitten. Anyways, apparently there is an explanation offered for it that sounds plausible and is backed by photo evidence.

[silverfish]

This was emailed to me by the rethink911. this is being played in the Toronto subway network on there advert boards. they are working hard at getting main stream sleepers to wake up and see whats going on

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6talwQ25cy4

[donk]

Posted by Frederick Jackson (here)
It was building 7 going down that made be a believer.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8T2_nedORjw#t=37

I did not even know about the other buildings going down!

I was asked by who I thought would be MSM/teevee lies consuming straight edge dude the other day: what do you think about building 7?

Was sooooo stoked. More people know than the MSM would have you believe.

Building 7 is the key to getting through to non-believers, most people don't even know the third skyscraper ever to fall pancaked from fire (and first ever not "hit by an airplane"...not to mention the buildings between it and the towers...)

If someone you are trying to convince still believes after hearing bout that, sell them the closest bridge...