Climate Engineering, Weather Warfare, and the Collapse of Civilization

[AriG]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
I have said it before , our distant ancestors destroyed their sun and their planet with geo-engineering and nuclear war ... we are following the same blueprint , that's why they come here and buzz our nuclear sites and shut them down ... there is no way to remove ionizing radiation ... between climate change and fukushima , we are in trouble , and our mainstream media is SILENT ... very telling ...

Not so far away as you think...On Mars...and .... us.

[aranuk]

Posted by doodah (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
It is quite a depressing video to watch. Is there any hope of turning all that around to healthy planet again?

Stan

Yes, Stan, there is, but it requires a great deal of guts in a Gandhian sense from an awful lot of people. We could pull the monetary plug. That would require the individual action of a lot of people willing to stand the line in the face of all that TPTB can throw at an individual. We have not reached that point of willingness.

Or, we could do it if we had a united populace on the whole planet. One gigantic sit-down strike would do it, lasting as long as it takes. That requires guts, too.

Hi Doodah, I fully understand what you are saying, but tell me what you yourself are doing about it now, other than watching the video and talking about it.
Also, TPTB are reading what we are talking about and are busy taking measures to stop all you say from ever happening.

Stan

[AriG]

It is interesting that at about 31 minutes, he shows us a chart that illustrates ozone depletion. What is concerning is that he is using 14 year old data. His chart showing a gaping hole in the ozone layer that is 14 years old! What is the status today?

[Tesseract]

Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
it would seem that a base can neutralise Auminium oxide.

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/General...ments/Group_13

what i dont get is when its released in the air it oxidises and becomes non conductive so can it be used for the purposes mentioned in the video ?

what am i missing ?


N

The part of his discussion on aluminium wasn't very clear and left me thinking he didn't know what he was talking about. Nanoscale metal particles are highly flammable, even explosive. I expect nano aluminium would fall into this category unless it is pre-passivated. One minute he seemed to be talking about pure metallic aluminum, and then he switched to aluminum oxide, which does occur in nature as the mineral corundum.

I have some good and bad things to say about his presentation, just not sure if I should go to the effort to dissect it here.

[Dennis Leahy]

I'm still surprised that no "white hats" in the military have shot any of the chemtrail jets down. This isn't something that could be done with a high-powered rifle, so the "survivalists" or whoever can't do it.

The fact that there have been no leaks by pilots (well, I heard of one drunk pilot blabbing, but it was dismissed) indicates to me that these are probably drone jets, not piloted by real pilots in the air. Another strong indication is that with all that geoengineering air traffic, there have been no midair crashes - again, that sounds like automation/drones to me.

I will cheer when they start dropping from the sky.

I will also say that - just as Dane Wigington said in the video - the US government is controlled by psychopaths. So, petitions and "getting this on the radar" won't work. Literally the only thing that I have ever even heard of that MIGHT work is The Reset Button. The Reset Button recognizes the power structure for what they are, and has only one goal: to take away their power over the US government.

The media (owned by and controlled by the Elite) is not going to save us. It is worse than hopeless to attack via the wrong vector (beg the media, petition the government, shout in the streets,...)

Dennis

[Wind]

Here is one great whistleblower!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jHm0XhtDyZA

[Jean-Luc]

Posted by Wind (here)
Here is one great whistleblower!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jHm0XhtDyZA

Great women. Expertise, courage & empathy. Great & effective 20 minutes clip. It says it all (or quite much at least). And provides steps for taking action. Do take the time to view this.

Congratulations, Kristen!


______________

From the Youtube info coming with the video:

Published, Jan 27 2014

NOTE: Please be patient as Kristen has received an overwhelming number of emails for lab requests and will answer them all as soon as possible.

Kristen Meghan, Ex-Military, former Air Force Sr. Industrial Hygienist/Environmental Specialist. Her job was Air Force Specialty Code (AFSC) was 4BOX1, Bio-environmental Engineer.

Kristen gave a ground breaking presentation of what she had discovered about Geoengineering / Chemtrails while serving her Country.
This BRAVE young lady has put her livelihood / life on the line for us.

This presentation was produced, filmed and edited by John F. King
https://www.youtube.com/user/johnfking00

David Keith Discussing *Weather Modification* on Colbert Report ~ Dec. 2013
http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=22F...

Geoengineering Watch
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/ex...

Kristen Meghan YouTube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/user/IamKrist...

Kristen Meghan Facebook Account
https://www.facebook.com/Sugarfreesanity

Kristen Meghan Twitter Account
https://twitter.com/KristenMeghan

Email
KristenMeghan@gmail.com

Sulfuric Acid on a paper towel:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Su...e_of_towel.JPG

[Referee]

More in depth analysis of US documents and control of hurricanes and large storms

MUST WATCH

Carbon Black
Methane Capture
RF
HARRP
Ionosphere Mirrors
How it is done
Scientific Papers
Government Documents.
History of the process
Future Goals
MUCH MORE

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_MRRKA85F_A

[Jean-Luc]

Recommended by Kristen Meghan (found on her facebook page)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iVlDHWawuFo

CBS News: Declassified Documents Reveal Chemtrails Are Real
Jan, 2013
Newly Declassified Documents Expose The Paper Trail And The History Of What Conspiracy Theorists Call ChemTrails.

Was done in the 60's
City officials were kept in the dark.
...Just as today.

The cover story: smoke screen to protect against a Russian attack.
...Today global warming used as another 'smokescreen'.

N.B. from Kristen Meghan : The title of this video shouldn't say chemtrails, but I didn't title this video. They sprayed carcinogens for human testing.

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Dane Wigington has an extensive background in solar energy. He is a former employee of Bechtel Power Corp. and was a licensed contractor in California and Arizona.

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/dane-wigington/

[Damien Toner]

This is insane, disgusting and sad.

[AlaBil]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
This is the book that is shown and mentioned in the video Attachment 24834

Regards to all

roman

Roman... That is quite some book! I've downloaded it and scanned it and it presents a lot of information from various sources. Now back to read it more closely. Kevin is one individual, taking a stand. As he says, a drop of water changing the course of a river.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Damien Toner (here)

This is insane, disgusting and sad.

Yes, it is. It's really quite hard to understand.

Either there's real insanity at work here, or real evil, or maybe both. I have to say, for a while now I've had it niggling at the back of my mind that what's afoot may be to offer up the entirety of Planet Earth as some kind of ultimate blood sacrifice.

[blufire]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
I'm still surprised that no "white hats" in the military have shot any of the chemtrail jets down. This isn't something that could be done with a high-powered rifle, so the "survivalists" or whoever can't do it.

The fact that there have been no leaks by pilots (well, I heard of one drunk pilot blabbing, but it was dismissed) indicates to me that these are probably drone jets, not piloted by real pilots in the air. Another strong indication is that with all that geoengineering air traffic, there have been no midair crashes - again, that sounds like automation/drones to me.

I will cheer when they start dropping from the sky.

I will also say that - just as Dane Wigington said in the video - the US government is controlled by psychopaths. So, petitions and "getting this on the radar" won't work. Literally the only thing that I have ever even heard of that MIGHT work is The Reset Button. The Reset Button recognizes the power structure for what they are, and has only one goal: to take away their power over the US government.

The media (owned by and controlled by the Elite) is not going to save us. It is worse than hopeless to attack via the wrong vector (beg the media, petition the government, shout in the streets,...)

Dennis

Perhaps this is because the ‘white hats’ have all the information on why the geoengineering is taking place. (rapidly now)

Just maybe they agree with the ultimate outcome.

We know that geoengineering is taking place . . . this is not a secret or conspiracy.

We are just not aware (yet) of the ultimate reason(s) for this technology.

But there are ‘those’ who do have all the facts and it is obvious to me that these facts and Knowledge is powerful enough that those (no matter their politics, religion, nationality or social status) who ARE informed completely fall in line with the strategy that is being implemented.

We , as the general public, do not have all the facts nor should we.

But I believe strongly that we are given enough information and just by simply observing closely with what ‘they’ are doing, we can make logical informed choices and decisions for ourselves and our future generations.

Observe, choose your path and adapt and thrive.

[Daphne]

Dane on a radio show recently 1/28/14

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drdream...igington-webre

[Hervé]

Too bad that he is encapsulating his message with equivocal visual evidences:

Spraying:

... no sweat: unequivocal!

Whereas:

... well, that falls in the "plausible deniability" game as indicated by the numerous threads on this forum debating the "contrail"/"chemtrail" issue ad infinitam...

Same regarding the modified passenger planes used as evidence of "flying tankers": there are, also, already enough threads debating the kind he shows as pre-commercial flight-testing for weight distribution and positioning. To get an idea of the validity of the later, just consider this indirect evidence: look at how clean these plane interiors are... not an indication of heavy, continuous "industrial" use of these planes for aerosol spraying... so, he is shooting himself in both feet to start with; whereas sticking to what is recovered of the fallouts is more than enough to build upon.

That said, his message, as emphasized by Bill, is indeed beyond alarming: something real nasty is taking place up and around this blue marble!

[sheme]

If they can sell this program to the pilots they should be able to sell it to the people. Just tell us the truth!

[TargeT]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
I'm still surprised that no "white hats" in the military have shot any of the chemtrail jets down. This isn't something that could be done with a high-powered rifle, so the "survivalists" or whoever can't do it.

Sure you "can", modern jet engines are pretty fragile, however the chances of the plane being low enough (but still high enough that the angular velocity is not too great) and hitting the right area are very very low, you'd have a much better chance with a .50 cal (but even that would be difficult).

Besides, this whole thread hinges on a lot of conjecture, guesses and; frankly, a lot of Fear Porn.

are the ice caps thinner, or thicker?
Arctic Sea Ice 50% Thicker Than Last Year, Scientists ‘Didn’t Expect’ Growth In Wake Of 2012 Shrinkage

do we have data sets that stretch long enough for us to be able to even comment on the natural cycles of the earth?

Why is the sun in a solar minimum when it should (based on previous cycles) be at a maximum?

I'll watch the video, but all of this anthropomorphic climate change shame/blame/guilt shtick is generally based on logical fallacy, cherry picked data and agenda driven policy crap.. color me skeptical.

[gripreaper]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
whereas sticking to what is recovered of the fallouts is more than enough to build upon.

Absolutely. Evidence of the fallout ingredients clearly shows that toxic substances are being introduced into the environment which are harmful to soils, plants, water, and humans.

I find it unconscionable that this debate can possibly be relegated to: 'those who are in the know are on board and the rest of us don't have all the facts and we are not aware of the ultimate reasons for geoengineering, nor should we'.

There is no point of logic which dictates that poisoning the earth with toxins, which are detrimental to all life, is justified based on any parameters whatsoever. This is something I just cannot accept.

The idea that the ecosystem needs to be geoengineered resistant to high levels of toxicity in order to create an environment which a handful of souls can survive post apocalypse, due to an inevitable, imminent, extinction level event, and geoengineering is the ONLY WAY to secure the genome going forward, which will be highly altered by the effects of the imminent extinction level event, makes it necessary to go completely against nature and create the necessary environment for the reality of post apocalyptic survival.

This is the only postulate that is being offered as justification for geoengineering, which is also based on information gathered from ultra dimensional interlopers whose interests are suspect. Come on, we KNOW geoengineering is occurring, we KNOW the extreme toxicity in the fallout, and we KNOW the secrecy and propaganda surrounding this issue by those who advocate such measures, which makes it highly suspect at the very least and downright inhuman at the worst.

People are getting sick in record numbers around me, and I find I need to detox at least three times a year now, take mineral supplements and eat as organically as I can, just to maintain my PH at it's proper level. What I can't seem to change is the recent internal decay within my nostrils, which is a condition which fully manifested this winter and causes internal bleeding within my nostrils and constant scabbing and sneezing.

I've had enough of the lies and secrecy.

[Referee]

Here is one of his earlier videos from last summer. Many of the same subjects are reviewed. The methane release is of great concern.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kXUaI718yJs