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    Quote An article in a 1965 edition of Eagle, a British comic book, predicted the arrival of the Internet with stunning accuracy, including services similar to Skype, Netflix, Kindle and Google years before the very first rudimentary ARPANET links were even established and decades before the first incarnation of the world wide web became available to the general public

    The article, entitled Computers for Everyone, predicted “world knowledge at your fingertips….as early as the 1990′s.”

    “How would you like to be able to solve any mathematical problem in a fraction of a second: summon any page of any book or newspaper instantly before your eyes: have all factual information known to man at your own fingertips – all without leaving your own living room? This fantastic dream of scientific achievement may come true by the 1990s if a plan now being worked on by top scientists in this country and the U.S.A. is successful,” states the article.

    Bear in mind that ARPANET, the very first rudimentary Internet communication system, was not conceived until the early 1960′s and the first ARPANET link between the University of California and the Stanford Research Institute was not established until October 1969.

    More than merely predicting the arrival of the Internet as a tool of communication, the piece foresaw services like Netflix, Skype, Kindle, and even the “Internet of things” where every home appliance is linked to the world wide web.


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    So every home appliance will be connected too someday? Does this include my refrigerator? I would love to just click on a few buttons on my computer screen to fill my icebox up with ice cream!

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    Some fridges are already connected as well as microwaves oven.

    You just send the fridge info to your computer which order what is missing in the fridge through internet and you receive it within.. a few hours.

    Quote The LG adverts on telly don't do it justice. The LG Internet Refrigerator has the coolest set of features ever seen in the kitchen. It is a 730 litre, stainless-steel, side by side fridge, with an in-built computer which can be accessed via a 37 centimetre touch-screen LCD monitor mounted on the fridge door. Users can watch TV, listen to MP3 music, take and store digital photos, make a video phone call, use the fridge as a message board or surf the web. It also has VCR and DVD ports, a microphone and speakers. Information about food in the fridge can be stored and a map of the fridge allows the owner to keep an inventory of what foods are in each section and how long they have been there. It's biggest advantage will be its functionality as a food management system. It also has an inbuilt hard drive and modem, so that the appliance can be 'connected' by simply running a phone connection into it. $15,000 is the anticipated RRP when it's released later this year.

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    Time travelers? Hmm very weird indeed.
    You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy. Desiderata - Max Ehrman

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    Actually, the 'net' was borne via back room and backdoor moves created and initiated (made real) by the scientists who ran the Atlas rocket program.

    they were forbidden to communicate with one another, and could not get their jobs done unless they did. so they went AROUND the military's rules and regulations.

    When the rockets finally flew, and do so very successfully, the military who had watched the scientists (3000 of them) make this communications systems work, the military came in and took it all away. They took the communications system over.

    THAT was ARPANET. The communications engineers of the Atlas rocket program ---THE original hackers.

    Actually it was more 'darknet' as it was illegal and hidden piggybacking on everyone Else's satellite and telecommunications systems.... besides using open digitized RF systems that they themselves put together and all the differing required translation systems. That is what the scientists had created.

    So now you know what is going on in modern times with all those internet data flow systems..what is going on with that bandwidth..... I'm sure they are still doing it, but in a more refined fashion.

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    Directly from the mouth one of the electronics communications engineers who was one of those atlas rocket scientists.
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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Actually, the 'net' was borne via back room and backdoor moves created and initiated (made real) by the scientists who ran the Atlas rocket program.

    they were forbidden to communicate with one another, and could not get their jobs done unless they did. so they went AROUND the military's rules and regulations.

    When the rockets finally flew, and do so very successfully, the military who had watched the scientists (3000 of them) make this communications systems work, the military came in and took it all away. They took the communications system over.

    THAT was ARPANET. The communications engineers of the Atlas rocket program ---THE original hackers.

    Actually it was more 'darknet' as it was illegal and hidden piggybacking on everyone Else's satellite and telecommunications systems.... besides using open digitized RF systems that they themselves put together and all the differing required translation systems. That is what the scientists had created.

    So now you know what is going on in modern times with all those internet data flow systems..what is going on with that bandwidth..... I'm sure they are still doing it, but in a more refined fashion.

    My Source:
    Directly from the mouth one of the electronics communications engineers who was one of those atlas rocket scientists.
    I'm going to add a bit more, so that this 'publishing of a kids book before Arapnet thing'..is perfectly clear.

    This is how they could predict with perfection, what would unroll or roll out in the 90's. that their 'secrecy' limits, their time limits on such things would expire, over time, as they had all new stuff to play with, stuff that made the emergent real global internet (early 1990's) not be any problem to control, or to have be a problem that could get past their new systems.

    They predicted what would happen in the 90's ...before ARPANET arrived, as they had a FAR, FAR more sophisticated system before ARAPANET arrived. A network created by the global group of scientists (NATO countries) who were tasked with the creation of a functional atlas rocket, and they absolutely had to break out of the enforced compartmentalization to get it done.

    To change gears and cast such newly educated eyes to some associated subjects:


    “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity….. anything you can imagine we already know how to do.”

    Ben Rich, former Head of the Lockheed Skunk Works


    Now... this quote..and others by Ben Rich...is in Joseph Farrell's books, all over the place.

    Joseph Farrell does not quote such a thing, unless he has what to him, is substantial corroboration of such things. He is making a very careful and perfected presentation/case of his data and will not screw up the situation with even one bad quote. The reason I mention this, is that you will find Ben Rich quotes being removed from the net, and removed from Wikipedia. More and more of this is happening every day. There appears to be a drive to removes such data.

    The first place I looked for that quote, to grab it and put it here, the person had been banned from the given forum. Do you see how this is playing out?

    We're dealing with revisionist history here, in the same way that the creation of a fully blown internet/darknet... long before ARAPNET occurred, how that data was also 'erased' from the record.

    The only evidence you have now..that what I'm telling you is true.. is this bit from this magazine from 1965, that most will dismiss.

    I have another account (possibly two more) of this 'encounter' with this Atlas program scientist, somewhere here on this forum.

    Just so you know, this is ARPA, or..now..DARPA, who appears to be engaging in revisionist history.
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    Quote Posted by Roisin (here)
    So every home appliance will be connected too someday? Does this include my refrigerator? I would love to just click on a few buttons on my computer screen to fill my icebox up with ice cream!
    Not only are all the new appliances 'smart' but most of them come equipped to connect via 802.11(wifi), and already they have been exploited:

    Is your refrigerator really part of a massive spam-sending botnet?
    Ars unravels the report that hackers have commandeered 100,000 smart devices.



    Security researchers have published a report that Ars is having a tough time swallowing, despite considerable effort chewing—a botnet of more than 100,000 smart TVs, home networking routers, and other Internet-connected consumer devices that recently took part in sending 750,000 malicious e-mails over a two-week period.

    The "thingbots," as Sunnyvale, California-based Proofpoint dubbed them in a press release issued Thursday, were compromised by exploiting default administration passwords that hadn't been changed and other misconfigurations. A Proofpoint official told Ars the attackers were also able to commandeer devices running older versions of the Linux operating system by exploiting critical software bugs. The 100,000 hacked consumer gadgets were then corralled into a botnet that also included infected PCs, and they were then used in a global campaign involving more than 750,000 spam and phishing messages. The report continued:

    Quote The attack that Proofpoint observed and profiled occurred between December 23, 2013 and January 6, 2014 and featured waves of malicious email, typically sent in bursts of 100,000, three times per day, targeting Enterprises and individuals worldwide. More than 25 percent of the volume was sent by things that were not conventional laptops, desktop computers or mobile devices; instead, the emails were sent by everyday consumer gadgets such as compromised home-networking routers, connected multi-media centers, televisions and at least one refrigerator. No more than 10 emails were initiated from any single IP address, making the attack difficult to block based on location – and in many cases, the devices had not been subject to a sophisticated compromise; instead, misconfiguration and the use of default passwords left the devices completely exposed on public networks, available for takeover and use.
    The Proofpoint report quickly went viral, with many mainstream news outlets breathlessly reporting the findings. The interest is understandable. The finding of a sophisticated spam network running on 100,000 compromised smart devices is extraordinary, if not unprecedented. And while the engineering effort required to pull off such a feat would be considerable, the botnet Proofpoint describes is possible. After all, many Internet-connected devices run on Linux versions that accept outside connections over telnet, SSH, and Web interfaces.

    What's more, in an age of James Bond-like infections that bug thousands of air-gapped computers and cryptographic attacks that hijack Microsoft's Windows update mechanism, a botnet of refrigerators, thermostats, and other smart devices is by no means impossible. Last year, an anonymous guerrilla researcher presented credible evidence that he hijacked more than 420,000 Internet-connected devices. The growing number of these devices and their advances in processing power also make these scenarios increasingly feasible.

    Where's the smoking gun?

    Still, there's a significant lack of technical detail for a report with such an extraordinary finding. Among other things, Proofpoint provided no details about the software the researchers say compromised the devices; it said it didn't "sinkhole" or otherwise monitor any of the command-and-control servers that would have been necessary to coordinate botnet activities; and it didn't convincingly explain how it arrived at the determination that 100,000 smart devices were commandeered. My doubts lingered even after a one-on-one interview with David Knight, general manager of Proofpoint's information security division.

    Knight said Proofpoint knows appliances sent the spam directly because researchers scanned the IP addresses that sent the malicious e-mails and received responses from the Internet interfaces of name-brand devices. I pointed out that many home networks have dozens of devices connected to them. How, I asked, did researchers determine that spam was sent by, say, an infected refrigerator? Isn't it possible that a home network with a misconfigured smart device might also have an infected Windows XP laptop that was churning out the malicious e-mails?

    Knight's response: in some cases, the researchers directly queried the smart devices on IP addresses that sent spam and observed that the appliances were equipped with the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol or similar capabilities that caused them to send spam. In other cases, the researchers determined the devices were connected directly to the Internet rather than through a router, making them the only possible source of the spam that came from that IP address.

    Again, what Proofpoint is reporting is plausible, but it doesn't add up. Experienced botnet researchers know that estimating the number of infected machines is a vexingly imprecise endeavor. No technique is perfect, but the scanning of public IP addresses is particularly problematic. Among other things, the intricacies of network address translation mean that the IP address footprint of a home router will be the same as the PC, smart TV, and thermostat connected to the same network.

    It's also hard to understand why someone would go to all the trouble of infecting a smart device and then use it to send just 10 spam messages. Traditional spam botnets will push infected PCs to send as many messages as its resources allow. The botnet reported by Proofpoint requires too much effort and not enough reward.

    None of this is to say that the reported 100,000-strong smart-device botnet doesn't exist. And as most students of logic accept, it's not feasible to prove a negative. Still, the lack of evidence documenting any malware sample or a command and control server should give any reporter pause before repeating such an extraordinary claim. The research methodology is also a red flag.

    I contacted Paul Royal, a research scientist at Georgia Tech who specializes in network and system security, and I asked for his take on the Proofpoint report and the additional information provided by Knight. He was skeptical, too.

    "The aggregate of the information doesn't paint an adequately compelling picture that what they're asserting occurred actually occurred," Royal said. "When you ask something as simple as how do you know the spam came from gadgets they say: 'Well, we looked at the IP addresses of the systems sending the spam and when we presumably probed them we observed that they were coming from set-top-box-like devices.' The technical analysis of that shows that there could be plenty of other explanations."

    Knight said he would check to see if missing evidence—including a malware sample, documentation of a command-and-control server, and samples of the spam and phishing messages—are available for publication. Again, I'm open to the possibility the botnet reported by Proofpoint exists. But until these smoking guns are produced, I'm maintaining a healthy amount of skepticism.


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    Although it has religious overtones, I thought that another prediction dating from 1965 was quite accurate

    Quote If I were the devil, I’d educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting so that anything else would appear dull an uninteresting. I’d threaten T.V. with dirtier movies and vice versa. And then, if I were the devil, I’d get organized. I’d infiltrate unions and urge more loafing and less work, because idle hands usually work for me. I’d peddle narcotics to whom I could. I’d sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction. And I’d tranquilize the rest with pills. If I were the devil, I would encourage schools to refine yound intellects but neglect to discipline emotions . . . let those run wild. I would designate an athiest to front for me before the highest courts in the land and I would get preachers to say “she’s right.” With flattery and promises of power, I could get the courts to rule what I construe as against God and in favor of pornography, and thus, I would evict God from the courthouse, and then from the school house, and then from the houses of Congress and then, in His own churches I would substitute psychology for religion, and I would deify science because that way men would become smart enough to create super weapons but not wise enough to control them.

    If I were Satan, I’d make the symbol of Easter an egg, and the symbol of Christmas, a bottle. If I were the devil, I would take from those who have and I would give to those who wanted, until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious. And then, my police state would force everybody back to work. Then, I could separate families, putting children in uniform, women in coal mines, and objectors in slave camps. In other words, if I were Satan, I’d just keep on doing what he’s doing.

    Paul Harvey, Good Day.


    http://nation.foxnews.com/paul-harve...on-paul-harvey
    The interesting things is that he mentions

    Subverting the nicest apple, THE USA
    Praying our father, in Washington
    Get TV
    I tranquilize the rest with pills
    Get family at war with themselves,
    Mesmerizing media fanning the flame with promises of higher ratings
    Drugs sniffing dogs and metal detector in schools
    Prisons overflowing
    Judges allowing pornography
    Takes from those who have and give to those who want it
    Get whole states to promote gambling
    Convince the Young that marriages is old fashion
    Undress you in public
    Lure you into bed with diseases for which there is no cure

    All of this above in bold was non existing in 65




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