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    Hello, All:

    To my surprise, apart from one thread a couple of years ago that had no replies, there's been nothing posted or discussed here about Joel Skousen's detailed analysis of what he claims will be a major, coming, staged global war. I'd like to open that subject up here.

    Joel Skousen is credible, sane, balanced and well-informed. For a while now, he's presented the thesis that within the next six years there will be an engineered, 'staged' nuclear war between the US and Russia/China. That will be allowed or provoked to happen, and the intended result would be the NWO, in all its glory, deploying all its controls over citizens everywhere to ensure that this can never happen again.

    Skousen has been talking with Alex Jones about this for quite a while now, but one of the most succinct presentations and explanations of what he believes will happen was just a couple of days ago, on 28 Feb 2014. The key part of that audio is extracted (and slightly edited) here. The critical, central part is also transcribed so it can be read through and understood with care.

    http://projectavalon.net/Joel_Skouse...8_Feb_2014.mp3 (4.7 Mb, 8:20)

    Here's the transcript of the first 50 seconds:


    Why is it the globalists would want to bring on a nuclear strike on to America?

    It's because you can't get Americans to give up essential freedoms, national sovereignty, and yield to a global government unless the US military gets taken down.

    If they let the US military get taken down in a pre-emptive nuclear strike, then they can come out of their bunkers -- and our leaders ARE building huge underground bunkers, because they know the strike is coming -- they come out of their bunkers and say: "Ah, the Russians and Chinese deceived us, we didn't know this was going to happen, but our only salvation now is to join together with NATO and other forces and form a New World Government to prosecute this war."

    And literally everyone will lay down and say: "Save us! Do whatever it takes. We don't care about sovereignty. Just do what it takes."

    That's why this is going to happen.


    Note: Skousen references Bill Clinton's PDD-60 (Presidential Decision Directive 60). This is important to understand. Here's the best summary:

    http://brainbender.blogspot.com/2013...n-warning.html

    PDD-60 is all about the radical change of US strategic nuclear policy from "launch on warning" to "retaliate after absorbing a first strike". The analysis concludes:
    The new and current nuclear policy to "Retaliate after Absorbing a First Strike" is an unwinnable policy that does more to invite attack than deter it.

    Skousen and Alex Jones reference his DVD and book STRATEGIC RELOCATION. Alex Jones' excellent and very thorough 2 hr 40 mins interview with him is here. I highly recommend it:



    Those of you who have been following Camelot/Avalon for a while will immediately recognize that this dovetails worryingly well with my 2009 report about The Anglo-Saxon Mission. Nothing that's occurred since then negates the credibility of that reported whistleblower story.

    The Anglo-Saxon Mission


    Looking around at the biggest picture, it's also [theoretically] possible that the backup 'failsafe', in case all this goes wrong (and what could go wrong with this plan, anyone?), is the evacuation of the elite from a crippled Planet Earth. That hypothesis was laid out by myself here:

    From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis


    But the subject of this thread is Joel Skousen's work. If you're unfamiliar with it, do listen to the audio extract (and read the transcript above), and then later settle down for a couple of hours to watch the extremely well-done and thought-provoking Strategic Relocation video.
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    Default Re: JOEL SKOUSEN on World War III - and Strategic Relocation

    Hi Bill,

    I just listened to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on a website pointed out by GlassSteagallfan here.
    The information he brought forward seems pretty much spot on to me. Although it is not a first strike on the USA
    he warned that the current USA administration might be stupid enough to engage in a war with Russia about the Ukraine.
    (more details in that mp3 of course)

    What are your thoughts about that?

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    Default Re: JOEL SKOUSEN on World War III - and Strategic Relocation

    I was going to post this on a separate thread, but the wars are getting closer to
    Russia,Iran has cooled off a little, but the Ukraine could be the spark that started a
    major conflict in Europe. As its neighbour Poland was in WW11, both countries are
    strategically placed between east and west. I don't think it will come to it ,
    certainly Germany and Europe would not want to be thrown into a possible
    escalating conflict . But as we suspect the real controllers of the world may have
    other ideas.


    I am not defending Russia and the situation in the Ukraine is very serious. There is
    a large ethnic Russian population and a leased naval base in the Crimea. So the
    situation is complicated and the comments from Kerry apart from being inflaming
    are a bit hypocritical.


    Seriously? Kerry tells Russia 'one doesn't invade country on phony pretext'




    Published on 2 Mar 2014


    Talk of Russia sending troops has led to a sharp international response. US President
    Obama said Moscow was breaching international law and could end up isolated. Canada
    joined in by condemning Putin's military intervention. Both of them, plus Britain and
    France have decided to suspend preparations for the G8 Summit in Sochi. All this
    despite Moscow still not having decided whether to send troops. Gayane Chichyakyan
    has more on what was probably the strongest threat.
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    Default Re: JOEL SKOUSEN on World War III - and Strategic Relocation

    TPTW have been trying **** for years. If thats their plan whatever. I believe all of that will be prevented from happening just as a pile of other military actions have been. By who? Our star brothers for one. The US military has factions that are against the NWO as well. We empower their agenda when we fear.

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    Default Re: JOEL SKOUSEN on World War III - and Strategic Relocation

    this information goes right along with what our ET friends have been saying since january 1975 , for what it's worth , they said 2014 and the year 2016 would be chances for world war 3 to happen ... that the whole reason for them coming , buzzing our nuclear sites shutting them down , sending us a message they learned the hard way , their ancestors destroyed an entire GALAXY ... they say we are making the same mistakes and are on the wrong road ...
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    Default Re: JOEL SKOUSEN on World War III - and Strategic Relocation

    If my memory serves me; not in the next six years but, some time between 2020-2030?

    China's military force isn't strong enough until then...unless some event poses strategic advantage.

    Joel disagrees with Roberts assessment of the current affairs in Russia and Ukraine.
    “Bundinn er bátlaus maður”

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    Default Re: JOEL SKOUSEN on World War III - and Strategic Relocation

    Great stuff there Bill,

    For some reason at this point in time on an intuitive level, I don't think the PTW are running on schedule and adding to that their Power of Influence is waning day in day out...

    I just don't see a Nuclear Strike coming to America anytime soon, I don't see a World Govt. with total Control of the masses...

    Quote What I do sense, is a strange almost silent internal 'Revolution' that has been gaining momentum over the last decade that somehow is operating to 'Force' the PTW onto the back foot, creating massive indifference to their working Structures and Maleficence so much so they are becoming a 'Toothless Tiger' on so many levels so bizarre to even contemplate...
    They have far to many (Old-Timers) who are used to get their own way whether it be by Mind Control PsyOps or State Sponsored Terrorism, the dissociative imbalance is now (Turning Within on Itself) and subsequently the implosion of the NWO has begun..!

    The 'Shift' is already in place and their is (Not a God Damned Thing) they can do about it...!

    They the PTW opened the 'Door' and an elevated Aware Mass-Consciousness Manifesting (Intent) against them is going to (Close) that door to open a new door of knowledge & discovery..!

    Its something that has come into my own Awareness especially within the Last 6 Months...

    Every where the PTW turn now, they are confronted with Opposition not just by the Human Awakening but (Within) their own (Crumbling Network)...

    They even Know they are already (Defeated), yet they still think their invisible & invincible...

    My 2 cents...

    Jack
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    Quote Posted by Tyy1907 (here)
    TPTW have been trying **** for years. If thats their plan whatever. I believe all of that will be prevented from happening just as a pile of other military actions have been. By who? Our star brothers for one. The US military has factions that are against the NWO as well. We empower their agenda when we fear.
    This may turn into different results ... if they make mistakes it will lead to high level exposure.
    So it's our turn to aim our intention to it and bend the current energy/momentum into our desired results.

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    Quote Posted by 13th Warrior (here)
    Joel disagrees with Roberts assessment of the current affairs in Russia and Ukraine.
    Ok, very interested in this ... do you have a link? or other reference? Thanks!

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    I just listened too. Excellent concise analysis. If I sit back far enough from the situation and look long enough I don't think the US will be that stupid… or better put, their asses are hanging out for all the world to see so they might be just smart enough to tuck tail and cover up.

    And if not smart enough there is a lot of counter force that will get the administration to fold.

    Quote Posted by Operator (here)
    I just listened to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on a website pointed out by GlassSteagallfan here.
    The information he brought forward seems pretty much spot on to me. Although it is not a first strike on the USA
    he warned that the current USA administration might be stupid enough to engage in a war with Russia about the Ukraine.
    (more details in that mp3 of course)

    What are your thoughts about that?
    Last edited by Christine; 2nd March 2014 at 23:39.

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    Quote Posted by Christine (here)
    I just listened too. Excellent concise analysis. If I sit back far enough from the situation and look long enough I don't think the US will be that stupid… or better put their asses are hanging out for all the world to see so they might be just smart enough to tuck tail and cover up.

    And if not smart enough there is a lot of counter force that will get the administration to fold.

    Quote Posted by Operator (here)
    I just listened to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on a website pointed out by GlassSteagallfan here.
    The information he brought forward seems pretty much spot on to me. Although it is not a first strike on the USA he warned that the current USA administration might be stupid enough to engage in a war with Russia about the Ukraine.
    (more details in that mp3 of course)

    What are your thoughts about that?
    Not yet listened to Paul Craig Roberts, but am just about to do so. (Click here, and then scroll down to the mp3 link on the left side of the page.)

    In answer to Operator's question in the quote above, I think Joel Skousen would reply that in order to get the American public onside with a heavy crackdown on liberties, the US government would have to plead that they were attacked first. For the US to strike first would lose them a LOT of sympathy domestically.

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    Default Re: JOEL SKOUSEN on World War III - and Strategic Relocation

    Joel says that the Ukraine is all political theater...

    US nuclear command is ordered to absorb a nuclear first strike.

    North Korea attacking South K. will be the trigger.
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    Default Re: JOEL SKOUSEN on World War III - and Strategic Relocation

    The situation is potentially very dangerous , we can find ourselves on brink of global disaster anytime and I don't see any strategical initiative that could prevent it ..except for : changing the time-line .

    I don't know how but if it's what needs to be done .. it will be done . Things won't go according to any of their plans, something needs to be changed before it's late.


    If we're on cross road , a check point, that's what it is. I know we've passed through already though God knows how..



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    Default Re: JOEL SKOUSEN on World War III - and Strategic Relocation

    I have to agree with Ghost Rider concerning intervention from my friends in space. The NWO has nothing to do with humans running this Planet. It has to do with ET being in charge. Their goal is to save this world which really is their world from further destruction. The world needs to heal and stabilize itself. They have a vested interest in this planet because they live here and on our satellite , the Moon. Up there they mine helium 3 for use in their spacecrafts. Why would they want a nuclear war that would kill their own people, yes ETs, and make this world inhabitable for thousands of years? Because of some stupid humans. This is the only outcome that makes any sense.

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    Default Re: JOEL SKOUSEN on World War III - and Strategic Relocation

    Try to think good thoughts, we are all on the same planet



    p.s.

    St. Patrick's Rune

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Swift...trick.27s_Rune

    A Swiftly Tilting Planet also includes an ancient rune, which is supposed to ward off evil and save the world from the threat of nuclear war. The poem features in several parts of the book, each with slightly different wording or different punctuation; the poem's definite composition is unsure.

    At Tara in this fateful hour,

    I place all Heaven with its power,
    And the sun with its brightness,
    And the snow with its whiteness,
    And the fire with all the strength it hath,
    And the lightning with its rapid wrath,
    And the wind with its swiftness along its path,
    And the sea with its deepness,
    And the rocks with their steepness,
    And the Earth with its starkness
    All these I place
    By God's almighty help and grace

    Between myself and the powers of darkness


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    Default Re: JOEL SKOUSEN on World War III - and Strategic Relocation

    I forgot to add...



    On a purely (Common-Sense) Level...

    Don't be surprised if the PTW, use the Ukranian Conflict as a 'Smokescreen' to finally 'Attack' (Syria)...

    If they do this, its (GAME OVER) for the PTW...

    Why?

    Because the horse of 'Opportunity' has already bolted...

    Public Opinion has on both an (Awareness & Spiritual-Level), if I can use this term has (Violently) quelled their ability to use MSM Propaganda by Stealth...

    The PTW are literally stuck in a Self-Created (Quagmire)..!

    No amount of (War Planning) or Intel gleaned from their (Super Computers) can help them...

    The 'Worldwide Awakening' albeit small, but even still (Powerful) enough to Stop them in their tracks..!

    Hypothetical:

    If you do see this Eventuate..???

    We will have (Free Energy) within the short timeframe, because from what I'm led to believe the (Iranians) & (Russians) will use their (Energy Weapons) and that will be another (Blind-Threat) to deter the PTW..!

    IMHO we will never see any type of Nuclear War, just a Propagandised one...

    So ya see, its like a (Game of Chess) where every move PTW the make, moves them into the (Check) and with the ever increasing Collective Consciousness playing its (Counter-Punching-Role) the PTW are literally corned into the inevitable (CHECK-MATE)...

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    If they let the US military get taken down in a pre-emptive nuclear strike, then they can come out of their bunkers -- and our leaders ARE building huge underground bunkers, because they know the strike is coming -- they come out of their bunkers and say: "Ah, the Russians and Chinese deceived us, we didn't know this was going to happen, but our only salvation now is to join together with NATO and other forces and form a New World Government to prosecute this war."
    Perhaps the best idea is to not let the leaders out of their bunkers? A revolution of sorts to keep them buried?

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    Default Re: JOEL SKOUSEN on World War III - and Strategic Relocation

    There was an earlier thread discussing Joel Skousen's warnings: Planned Nuclear War - The PTB are creating the crisis for the NWO to come to fruition (April 2012).

    Personally, I've been a "Joel Skousen skeptic (tm)" for a long time now . My Post #3 from that earlier thread continues to represent my views.
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    Default Re: JOEL SKOUSEN on World War III - and Strategic Relocation

    Quote Posted by jackovesk (here)
    I forgot to add...



    On a purely (Common-Sense) Level...

    Don't be surprised if the PTW, use the Ukranian Conflict as a 'Smokescreen' to finally 'Attack' (Syria)...

    If they do this, its (GAME OVER) for the PTW...

    Why?

    Because the horse of 'Opportunity' has already bolted...

    Public Opinion has on both an (Awareness & Spiritual-Level), if I can use this term has (Violently) quelled their ability to use MSM Propaganda by Stealth...

    The PTW are literally stuck in a Self-Created (Quagmire)..!

    No amount of (War Planning) or Intel gleaned from their (Super Computers) can help them...

    The 'Worldwide Awakening' albeit small, but even still (Powerful) enough to Stop them in their tracks..!

    Hypothetical:

    If you do see this Eventuate..???

    We will have (Free Energy) within the short timeframe, because from what I'm led to believe the (Iranians) & (Russians) will use their (Energy Weapons) and that will be another (Blind-Threat) to deter the PTW..!

    IMHO we will never see any type of Nuclear War, just a Propagandised one...

    So ya see, its like a (Game of Chess) where every move PTW the make, moves them into the (Check) and with the ever increasing Collective Consciousness playing its (Counter-Punching-Role) the PTW are literally corned into the inevitable (CHECK-MATE)...
    I couldn't agree more. To me it's a battle for our minds as we the people are all powerful. They're backed up against ghe wall big time. They know they're flucked. Why I think this also has to do with the ET's

    As mentioned above nuclear weapons have been shut down, and even frickin dissappeared for years. According to John Kettler and others, large scale nukes rip a hole in time which "reverberates" into many other dimensions, parallel realities, etc. Basically pisses the neighbours off. This is one of the few affairs they will directly intervene on. John Kettlers blogs are a good source of info as he has ET/ED contacts. How do I know? I feel theres something to it. It feels true to me. Might not for everyone.
    Anyway the ET liberation forces have also been behind the scenes preventing the cabal from starting WW3. Several ET groups are working at this. the cabal doesn't stand a chance against 4th dimensional ETs with crazy advanced technology. They literally get a kick out of messin with the PTW. They're so advanced, its like taking matches away from a toddler. They're doing this so that we CAN evolve, without too much wars and bull**** going on. They're our frickin ancestors for crying out loud. I mean this is huge!
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    Default Re: JOEL SKOUSEN on World War III - and Strategic Relocation

    What I want to know is, why the (insert expletive here) do the innocent have to suffer and die at the hands of these madmen? I mean, it would only seem logical that if Russia and the U.S. were to duke it out, it would be a silent war, with top dignitaries and high ranking officials being assassinated by spec ops. Surely each side knows the whereabouts of the real enemies. Why do the people who want peace always have to be drawn into conflicts which we have no interest in? The only prepping I'll be doing is planting a garden, filtering rainwater and educating the masses.

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    Default Re: JOEL SKOUSEN on World War III - and Strategic Relocation

    Joel is very clever but is stuck int he paradigm of US good Russia Bad.

    All the actions taken by the Ukraine "new" Gov is helping the West ... i am 100% sure that the neo nazis in Ukraine didnt trick all sides and found themselves in power against everyone. The west is using neo nazis in EU to destabilize countries and create distractions (i saw this in Greece also with the New Dawn party ... ). So they either fund or let loose the neo nazi idiots and claim the benefits afterwards.

    The same thing here in Ukraine. I am sure this was all planed by the west ... maybe the neo nazis got more power than they should but its all int he plan. As joel was saying Russia is moving the armies that it has inside Crimea atm and the west + Ukraine screams invasion. I am sure Russia doesnt want to give NATO a reason to declare war or have an armed civil war in Ukraine ...

    then again all these can be distractions for something else ... i am not sure Russia isnt bought and controlled by the elites to be honest. And to those that say TBTB are defeated ... well still waiting to see that.

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