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    Game changer: New possible MH370 debris shows signs of fire on board


    Marnie O’Neillnews.com.au@marnieoneill7
    September 13, 20162:11pm


    US adventurer Blaine Gibson with ‘the most significant’ piece of suspected MH370 debris to date. The fragment is believed to show burn marks, indicating a fire on board. Picture: 7 News

    ADVENTURER and MH370 sleuth Blaine Gibson has brought what he believes is the most significant piece of potential wreckage from the missing Malaysia Airlines plane to Australia for analysis.

    The fragment, found by three locals on the east coast of Madagascar and passed on to Mr Gibson, appears to have come from the interior of a Boeing 777 and exhibits signs of having been exposed to fire or a great heat.

    “The top layer of paint has been singed, scorched black,” Mr Gibson told Channel 7 Perth overnight after touching down in Australia.

    “(It’s significant) because it appears to be from the interior of the plane but not the main cabin, perhaps the cargo hold, perhaps the avionics bay.”

    Mr Gibson personally handed over the debris to Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) investigators in Canberra this morning.

    If confirmed to have come from the plane, it will be the first evidence that a fire — possibly an electrical one — brought down MH370 rather than the actions of a suicidal pilot.

    Mr Gibson said it was also possible the burn marks could have come from the force of impact.

    “The sea is slowly giving up her secrets,” he told Airline Ratings.com.

    “I believe these pieces are extremely important.”

    Mr Gibson has found 13 of the 27 pieces of suspected and confirmed MH370 debris that have been found to date during beachcombing expeditions in Mozambique, Madagascar and the region.

    Of the 13, roughly half have been confirmed by Australian investigators as “highly likely” to have come from the missing plane.

    Previously, Mr Gibson has entrusted his finds to local authorities but he believes the latest fragments — including the one with burn marks and a suspected frame from a monitor attached to the back of a plane seat — are too important to leave in the hands of others.

    “Malaysia is yet to pick up five pieces I found there three months ago,” Mr Gibson told Airline Ratings.

    The ATSB confirmed that it had received the debris but said it planned to consult Malaysia before taking any action.

    “Yes, the ATSB has today received debris from Mr Gibson and are seeking advice from Malaysian authorities regarding how they would like to proceed,” a spokesman told news.com.au.

    “Note that the Malaysian Government is responsible for the investigation and therefore is responsible for the analysis of all possible MH370 debris.”


    Blaine Gibson with his iconic ‘No Step’ piece found in Mozambique, which was confirmed to have come from the missing Boeing 777.Source:Supplied


    Three pieces of aircraft wreckage — including one a dramatic pink and white — found off the east African coast of Mozambique earlier this month, on display in Maputo on September 5. Picture: Adrien Barber.Source:AFP

    Aviation specialist Geoffrey Thomas said if the latest piece was confirmed to have come from the avionics bay — where an aircraft’s electronic systems are held — the implications were enormous.

    “If it was proven this was from the avionics bay, it was a flash fire, yes, it changes everything,” Mr Thomas told Channel 7 in Perth.

    “It talks to the issue of why did two electronics systems shut down, apparently without any reason.”

    Speculation of a fire on board was rife in the days and weeks after the plane’s disappearance on March 8, 2014, en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people on board.

    It increased after Malaysian authorities revealed the plane had been transporting a large amount of potentially flammable lithium batteries in its cargo.

    The possibility of a botched remote hack of the plane’s electronic and engineering bay (known as the E/E Bay) has also been discussed. Soon after the plane vanished, it was revealed that the bay could have been physically accessed via an unsecured hatch by a passenger or crew member with specialist knowledge.

    Aviation writer Ben Sandilands, who has doggedly reported on developments, big and small, since the plane’s disappearance, called the discovery a “highly significant find”.

    “(The debris found so far) all bear witness to a violent and sudden end to the flight, and underscore the indications from satellite data that it descended at high speed to the surface of the ocean,” he wrote in an article overnight.

    “The destructive force of that impact may have also reduced or eliminated the amount of larger and longer term floating objects that it could have produced.

    “This looks like a highly significant find. But decoding it, and seeing how it fits in other clues as to what caused this disaster may take more time than the attention spans of the proponents of various fiercely advocated solutions to the mystery.”

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    Flight MH370 'made rapid descent'
    4 hours ago
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    Australian experts have examined this wing flap which was found off the Tanzanian coast

    Flight MH370 most likely made a rapid and uncontrolled descent into the Indian
    Ocean, a new report says.The Boeing 777 disappeared while flying to Beijing from
    Kuala Lumpur with 239 people on board in March 2014.

    Despite an extensive search no trace of the plane's fuselage has been found.

    But the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) said analysis of two recovered
    wing flaps showed they were not in the landing position when the plane went down
    in the Indian Ocean.

    Satellite data also indicated a "high and increasing rate of descent", said the report.

    "You can draw your own conclusions as to whether that means someone was in
    control or not," the ATSB's search director Peter Foley told reporters

    read more....
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37843752

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    MH370 'descended rapidly': report



    Published on 2 Nov 2016
    Australian investigators say missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 was in 'a high
    and increasing rate of descent' when it vanished. Paul Chapman reports.
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    Missing Malaysia Airlines MH370 'dived rapidly
    uncontrolled before crash' new report suggests



    Published on 2 Nov 2016

    Missing Malaysia Airlines MH370 'dived rapidly
    uncontrolled before crash' new report suggests


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    MH370 report says plane descended rapidly when it vanished



    Published on 2 Nov 2016

    Missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 appeared to be
    out of control when it plunged into the ocean, with
    the wing flaps not prepared for landing.

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    MH370 Debris Suggests Plane Was in Dive Before Crash



    Published on 2 Nov 2016
    Examination of a key piece of wreckage from the missing Malaysia
    Airlines Flight 370 has cast doubt over theories that someone was
    in control of the aircraft when it entered the ocean. Photo: Associated Press

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    MH370: Plane 'not likely to be in search area', say investigators

    2 hours ago
    From the section Australia

    Experts leading the hunt for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 have said
    the plane is unlikely to be found in the current search area, and
    recommended looking further north.

    No trace of the plane has been recovered in the southern Indian Ocean,
    after more than two years of searching.

    MH370 disappeared while flying to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur with
    239 people on board in 2014.

    With the search to end soon, Australian officials say it will not be extended.

    Australia's Transport Minister Darren Chester said the search would not
    likely go beyond the scheduled end of January or February 2017 as the
    report does not give a "specific location" for the aircraft.

    The governments of Australia, Malaysia and China, who are funding the
    search, had previously agreed that "we will be suspending the search
    unless credible evidence is available" that identifies the location, he said.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-38375357

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    MH370 search reveals hidden undersea world

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    The painstaking search for missing flight MH370 has uncovered a previously unknown undersea world of volcanoes, deep valleys and soaring ridges, according to detailed maps released by Australia.

    Although no trace of the Malaysia Airlines plane was found during the search in the southern Indian Ocean—the most expensive ever of its kind—large volumes of data showing a detailed picture of the sea floor had to be collected to guide the probe.

    Scientists are hopeful the new maps will give their community greater insight into oceans.

    "It is estimated that only 10 to 15 percent of the world's oceans have been surveyed with the kind of technology used in the search for MH370," Geoscience Australia's environmental geoscience chief Stuart Minchin said late Wednesday.

    "(That makes) this remote part of the Indian Ocean among the most thoroughly mapped regions of the deep ocean on the planet.

    "So this data is unique both because of the remote location of the search area, and because of the sheer scale of the area surveyed."

    Minchin said the maps would also be useful for future scientific research, such as oceanographic and habitat modelling.

    Australia, Malaysia and China suspended the deep sea hunt in January, almost three years after the Boeing 777 disappeared with 239 people on board.

    The hunt—based on satellite analysis of the jet's likely trajectory after it diverted from its flight path—covered a 120,000 square-kilometre (46,000 square mile) designated zone, an area slightly smaller than England.

    Two shipwrecks were discovered during the search but no trace of the plane, deepening one the most enduring mysteries of the aviation age.

    However, the data revealed ridges six kilometres (3.73 miles) wide and 15 kilometres long that rise 1,500 metres above the sea floor, as well as fault valleys 1,200 metres deep and five kilometres wide.

    A second set of data will be released in mid-2018.

    While the search for the missing plane has been called off, Canberra has said it could be restarted if new evidence about the specific location of the aircraft emerges.

    "We remain hopeful that new information will come to light and that at some point in the future the aircraft will be located," Australia's Transport Minister Darren Chester said.

    Australia's national science body CSIRO released a report in April confirming that MH370 was "most likely" north of the former search zone.

    Three fragments from the plane have been recovered washed up on western Indian Ocean shores, including a two-metre wing part known as a flaperon found on La Reunion island.

    Speculation on the cause of the plane's disappearance has focused primarily on possible hijacking, rogue pilot action or mechanical failure, but nothing has yet been proved.

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    VIDEO. Vol MH370 : l'armée malaisienne a-t-elle commis une "grosse bourde" ?

    "Complément d'enquête" rediffuse dans sa collection hors-série de l'été un document consacré au plus grand mystère de l'histoire de l'aviation : la disparition en 2014 du vol MH370 de la Malaysia Airlines. Après son demi-tour supposé, l'avion est repéré par un radar militaire malaisien... Extrait.

    [see video at link]

    Selon le rapport officiel, le Boieng de la Malaysia Airlines recherché depuis maintenant trois ans et demi aurait fait demi-tour après son décollage de Kuala Lumpur, et retraversé la Malaisie... mais la trajectoire reconstituée est incomplète et ne mentionne que le radar de Butterworth, près de Penang, dans le nord du pays.

    Cette base militaire aérienne est le centre névralgique de toute la défense anti-aérienne de Malaisie. Le 8 mars 2014, le Boeing disparu l'aurait survolée à 1h52, puis aurait fait un virage vers le nord-ouest. A ce moment-là, le vol MH370 ne répond plus, sa trajectoire est inconnue... il représente une menace potentielle. Or, sur la base de Butterworth, personne ne bouge. Pourquoi les militaires n'ont-ils pas envoyé un chasseur ? Le ministre de la Défense malaisien a tenté, sur la télévision australienne, de justifier cette passivité en accusant à mots couverts les Américains d'avoir abattu l'avion. "Complément d'enquête" a voulu en savoir plus. Extrait.

    Une base stratégique déserte la nuit
    Pour son enquête, Olivier Sibille est allé à Penang rencontrer un ancien pilote de chasse qui a fait toute sa carrière à Butterworth, le major Ahmad Zaïdi. Celui-ci a une autre explication, bien plus simple. "En temps de paix, tout le monde rentre chez lui le soir. Il nous faut jusqu'à deux heures pour réagir. Tous les pilotes rentrent chez eux. Il n'y a plus une seule équipe." Faut-il conclure à une erreur de l'armée ? "Bien sûr. C'est une grosse bourde. Une défaillance de la hiérarchie. Notre gouvernement aurait dû en tirer les conséquences, mais personne n'a démissionné."

    Extrait de "MH370 : aller simple pour l'inconnu", un hors-série de"Complément d'enquête".

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    "Complément d'enquête" is bumping its "hors-série" document devoted to the biggest mystery in the history of aviation: the disappearance in 2014 of MH370 flight from Malaysia Airlines. After his alleged turn, the plane is spotted by a Malaysian military radar ... Extract.

    [See video at link]

    According to the official report, the Malaysia Airlines Boeing, which has been looked for, for three and a half years, has turned around after taking off from Kuala Lumpur and crossing Malaysia ... but the reconstructed path is incomplete and only mentions the Butterworth radar, near Penang, in the north of the country.

    This military air base is the hub of all Malaysian anti-aircraft defense. On March 8, 2014, the missing Boeing would have flown over it at 1:52, then would have made a north-westerly turn. At that time, the MH370 flight no longer responded, its trajectory is unknown ... it represents a potential threat. But, on the Butterworth air base, no one moves. Why the military did not scramble a fighter jet? The Malaysian Minister of Defense, on Australian television, tried to justify this passivity by indiscriminately accusing the Americans of having shot down the plane. "Complément d'enquête" wanted to know more. Extract.

    A strategic base deserted at night
    For his investigation, Olivier Sibille went to Penang to meet a former fighter jet pilot who spent his entire career in Butterworth, Major Ahmad Zaïdi. This one has another explanation, much simpler.
    "In peacetime, everybody goes home in the evening, we need up to two hours to react, and all the pilots go home. There is no-one left [at the base]."
    Must we conclude that the army was mistaken?
    "Of course, it's a big blunder, a failure of the hierarchy, our government should have taken the relevant measures, but no one has resigned."
    Excerpted from "MH370: one way for the unknown", a special issue of "Complément d'enquête".


    Related:
    MH370 was 'shot down by the US military', former Proteus Airlines CEO claims

    French ex-airline boss: Missing MH370 a cover up

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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    Veterans Today ran an article in July 2017 after local information was released to the internet and published by Ian Greenhalgh. Here:
    https://veteranstoday.com/2017/07/17/mh17-was-really-mh370

    As you can see the video is no longer available on You Tube. Why would that be?

    However, the author, Ian, also provided another link within the article to Live Leak where it can still be seen. Here:
    https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fbf_1429163375
    Here is the accompanying text:

    Narrator in possession of over 5000 pictures from Mh17 crash site point out numerous strange anomalies associated with the victims from MH-17.

    1) Glowing fluorescent dye near 1st body
    2) Strong smell of formaldehyde in air
    3) Absence of blood on and around corpses
    4) Bloated damp corpses
    5) Victims not European looking- she states that most looked Asian
    6) Strange dead birds, including a blue and yellow Macaw that is, ironically, the same color as the Ukrainian flag at the 3:10 mark. This is a tropical bird which makes one wonder why it was flying on a plane from Amsterdam to Southeast Asia. Normally, one would expect that such an occurrence may take place the other way round.
    7) She states that the cell phone data had no 2014 photos, only photos from 2013.
    8) Bluish/black lips on victims
    9) She states the passports were all brand new and unused
    __________________________________

    Here is another link to another You Tube video, age restricted, log in required. Here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB2-Ra1SPqE



    And here is an online collection of evidences and debunkment. Here:
    http://acloserlookonsyria.shoutwiki....ebunked_topics

    Or this one. Recovery of the passengers passports in pristine condition from the still burning wreckage. Which coincidentally support the Dutch allegations the passengers were Dutch and therefore not Malaysian regardless of their Asian looks.
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    MH370's enduring mystery 'almost inconceivable', report says


    MH370 was carrying 239 people when it disappeared in 2014

    Australian investigators have delivered their final report into missing
    Malaysia Airlines flight 370, saying it is "almost inconceivable" the
    aircraft has not been found.MH370 disappeared in 2014 while flying
    to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur with 239 people on board.

    The search for the jet, also involving Malaysia and China, was called
    off in January after 1,046 days.Australian searchers said they "deeply
    regretted" it had not been found."It is almost inconceivable and
    certainly societally unacceptable in the modern aviation era with 10
    million passengers boarding commercial aircraft every day, for a large
    commercial aircraft to be missing and for the world not to know with
    certainty what became of the aircraft and those on board," the
    Australian Transport Safety Bureau said on Tuesday.

    "Despite the extraordinary efforts of hundreds of people involved in
    the search from around the world, the aircraft has not been located."
    Their final report reiterated estimates from December and April that
    the Boeing 777 was most likely located 25,000 sq km (9,700 sq miles)
    to the north of the earlier search zone in the southern Indian Ocean.


    Read More....
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-41479910

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    Final Report Into Missing Flight MH370 Says Mystery Is 'Unacceptable' | NBC News

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrLD1NVWiXs

    Published on 3 Oct 2017
    The Australian Transport Safety Bureau issued its final report into the fruitless
    search for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    Quote Posted by Snoweagle (here)
    Veterans Today ran an article in July 2017 after local information was released to the internet and published by Ian Greenhalgh. Here:
    https://veteranstoday.com/2017/07/17/mh17-was-really-mh370

    As you can see the video is no longer available on You Tube. Why would that be?
    Just a note in comment: the VT article itself states
    WARNING: The video above contains many horrifically graphic images of decomposing and smashed corpses, do not watch if you are at all squeamish.
    ...so that could well be the legitimate reason.

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    Homeland Security Team Remotely Hacked and Took Control of a Boeing 757

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    Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:18 UTC


    A team of government, industry and academic officials successfully demonstrated that a commercial aircraft could be remotely hacked in a non-laboratory setting last year, a U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) official said Wednesday at the 2017 CyberSat Summit in Tysons Corner, Virginia.

    "We got the airplane on Sept. 19, 2016. Two days later, I was successful in accomplishing a remote, non-cooperative, penetration," said Robert Hickey, aviation program manager within the Cyber Security Division of the DHS Science and Technology (S&T) Directorate
    "[Which] means I didn't have anybody touching the airplane, I didn't have an insider threat. I stood off using typical stuff that could get through security and we were able to establish a presence on the systems of the aircraft."
    Hickey said the details of the hack and the work his team are doing are classified, but said they accessed the aircraft's systems through radio frequency communications, adding that, based on the RF configuration of most aircraft, "you can come to grips pretty quickly where we went" on the aircraft.

    The aircraft that DHS is using for its tests is a legacy Boeing 757 commercial plane purchased by the S&T branch. After his speech at the CyberSat Summit, Hickey told Avionics sister publication Defense Daily that the testing is with the aircraft on the ground at the airport in Atlantic City, New Jersey. The initial response from experts was, "We've known that for years,'" and, "It's not a big deal," Hickey said.
    SOTT Comment: Indeed, this tech has been around for a long time, before the 9/11 attacks in fact. Makes us wonder, yet again, about how those alleged 'jihadi' pilots, with little aircraft training, were able to fly large commercial airliners so expertly into their targets at the WTC.

    One day after 9/11, an article appeared in a top science and technology news service stating "hijackings could be halted in progress with existing technologies, say aviation researchers". The article quoted a transportation expert as saying:
    "Most modern aircraft have some form of autopilot that could be re-programmed to ignore commands from a hijacker and instead take direction from the ground . . . ."
    But in March 2017, at a technical exchange meeting, he said seven airline pilot captains from American Airlines and Delta Air Lines in the room had no clue.
    "All seven of them broke their jaw hitting the table when they said, 'You guys have known about this for years and haven't bothered to let us know because we depend on this stuff to be absolutely the bible,'" Hickey said.
    Hickey, who is a staff officer in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence on assignment to DHS S&T, said that while aviation is a subsector of the transportation component of the National Infrastructure Protection Plan, the focus is squarely on traditional terrestrial-based systems. The reservation and scheduling systems of airline aren't part of Hickey's research, he said.

    "I want to suggest to you that there's a different type of critical infrastructure, and that's critical infrastructure that's in motion, of which aviation is one of the third of that," Hickey said. The others are surface and maritime transportation, he said.

    "And I look at all of those and say, 'If we're not looking at those from a different perspective, we're going to miss the boat,' no pun intended," Hickey said. He said he doesn't know the answers yet for aircraft cyber infrastructure, adding that it's not a policy issue yet because more research needs to be done on these systems to understand what the issues are. Patching avionics subsystem on every aircraft when a vulnerability is discovered is cost prohibitive, Hickey said.

    The cost to change one line of code on a piece of avionics equipment is $1 million, and it takes a year to implement. For Southwest Airlines, whose fleet is based on Boeing's 737, it would "bankrupt" them if a cyber vulnerability was specific to systems on board 737s, he said, adding that other airlines that fly 737s would also see their earnings hurt. Hickey said newer models of 737s and other aircraft, like Boeing's 787 and the Airbus Group A350, have been designed with security in mind, but that legacy aircraft, which make up more than 90% of the commercial planes in the sky, don't have these protections.

    Or to put that another way, aircraft could be commandeered from the ground and controlled remotely for the purpose of hijacking the plane.

    When you consider the advanced technology involved in the ubiquitous 'drone strikes' by the US military that take place around the world on a daily basis, it's something of a 'no brainer' that the ability to remotely commandeer commercial airplanes has long since been in place.


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    Seabed Constructor, which has been looking for missing plane, turned off its monitoring system...

    https://theguardian.com/world/2018/f...for-three-days
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    Hobby researcher claims to have found MH 370.

    On March 8, 2014, the MH 370 disappeared from the radar. The Malaysian Airlines machine was on its way from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people on board when their signal was lost. All locating maneuvers went nowhere, last year the search was finally stopped. And now an Australian reports and claims to have found the wreck in the Indian Ocean. Compared to the Daily Star, engineer Peter McMahon says he spent months analyzing NASA material and images from Google Earth and sighting the plane near Round Island, north of Mauritius.
    He also wants to have parts of the cockpit identified next to the fuselage.



    The Google images presented by the 64-year-old show the possible outlines of an airplane. He had immediately reported his find to the authorities in Australia, which had confirmed to him that it could be the missing MH 370. However, McMahon claims the US wanted to prevent this information from being leaked to the public. Why? "Because it's full of bullet holes. If found, a very different investigation will take place. "
    From official side there is no statement to the supposed wreck find so far.

    From this Swiss Website:
    https://www.derbund.ch/panorama/verm...story/14190595
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    MH370 pilot dipped plane's wing over hometown before crashing flight

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV59XnuPQGU
    Published on 14 May 2018...CBS...( 3mins)...
    A new report by "60 Minutes Australia" is raising the possibility that the pilot of
    Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 crashed the plane intentionally. CBS News contributor
    and former chair of the National Transportation Safety Board Mark Rosenker says
    the idea that the pilot deliberately brought the plane down is a possibility, but the
    truth will never be known until the wreckage is recovered.

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    Still makes no sense , The pilot committed suicide by flying the plane somewhere
    not to be found . If piloted to the end they may have been looking in the wrong
    place as it glided to the surface of the ocean. The 'experts' disagree.


    MH370 - The Situation Room | 60 Minutes Australia


    Published on 13 May 2018

    What happened to MH370? On a special edition of 60 MINUTES, Tara Brown
    investigates what is now the world’s most confounding aviation disaster. What
    happened to the Boeing 777 airliner carrying 239 passengers and crew that
    vanished on March 8, 2014?

    For forty years, 60 Minutes have been telling Australians the world’s greatest
    stories. Tales that changed history, our nation and our lives. Reporters Liz Hayes,
    Allison Langdon, Tara Brown, Charles Wooley, Liam Bartlett and Tom Steinfort look
    past the headlines because there is always a bigger picture. Sundays are for 60 Minutes.
    WATCH more of 60 Minutes Australia: https://www.60minutes.com.au
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    MH370: Four-year hunt ends after private search is completed


    A message board at Kuala Lumpur airport shortly after the plane disappeared - the reason why remains a mystery

    The four-year hunt for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has ended with the latest, privately funded search coming to
    a close.US-based Ocean Infinity had been using a deep-sea vessel to survey a vast area of the southern Indian Ocean.
    But it found nothing and Malaysia's government says it has no plans to begin any new searches.The plane disappeared
    on 8 March 2014 while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people on board. Official search efforts ended last
    year and there are still fierce debates about what happened to the flight.Grace Nathan, whose mother was on MH370,
    said she was opposed to ending the hunt. "People might think: 'Why are these people still harping on about this, it's
    been four years'. It's important for people to remember that MH370 is not history," she told the Guardian newspaper.

    How the mystery unfolded

    8 March 2014: Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 departs for Beijing. The plane loses contact less than an hour after take-off,
    with no distress signal or message sent. Initial search efforts focus on the South China Sea

    15 March 2015: After evidence emerges that the plane was diverted to the south, the focus switches to the Indian Ocean

    July 2015: Large piece of debris washes ashore on Reunion, an island in the Indian Ocean east of Madagascar

    January 2017: The governments of Australia, Malaysia and China announce they are suspending the official search after
    failing to find anything in the area thought to be the plane's final resting place

    January 2018: Amid pressure from relatives, Malaysia signs a deal with a private company to resume the hunt. Ocean
    Infinity agree to work unpaid but would have received a reward of up to $70m if it had found the wreckage

    May 2018: Deteriorating weather makes operating in the area impossible, bringing the hunt to an end. Malaysia says it
    has no plans to restart it





    Read more.....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44285241

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    "‘Unlawful interference’ not ruled out in MH370 disappearance
    Safety report says Malaysia Airlines flight not on autopilot and was diverted manually
    Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, with 239 passengers and crew on board, went missing on March 8 2014 en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing

    Stefania Palma in Singapore July 30, 2018

    Malaysia’s safety investigation team said the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 may have been caused by “unlawful interference” and that rescue operations could have started sooner had traffic control in Malaysia and Vietnam followed protocol.

    The publication of the safety report comes four years after MH370, with 239 passengers and crew on board, went missing on March 8 2014 en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

    Limited information and the missing wreckage mean the real cause of the incident remains unknown, leaving one of the world’s greatest aviation mysteries unsolved and stirring the frustration of passengers’ families.

    “Investigating MH370 is the toughest job in the world,” said Kok Soo Chon, head of the safety investigation team.

    The report concluded that the flight’s pilot and first officer had no history of mental illness or anxiety, and that the aircraft, which unexpectedly changed direction mid-flight back towards Malaysia, was flown manually and not on autopilot.

    The report noted that the loss of communication with MH370 before the diversion was likely due to systems being manually turned off, “whether with intent or otherwise”.

    Mr Kok said he could not say with certainty that there was “unlawful interference”, in part because nobody has so far claimed responsibility for the aircraft’s disappearance.

    Background checks run by local authorities on all passengers did not flag up anyone who was considered to be “at risk”.

    The safety report also unveiled negligence by traffic control in Kuala Lumpur, Ho Chi Minh City and the flight’s pilot, resulting in a 20-minute gap in the tracking of MH370.

    Kuala Lumpur handed over the monitoring of the flight three minutes ahead of schedule. It did not notify Ho Chi Minh City, but rather asked the pilot to send out the alert, which he never did. Vietnam checked in on the aircraft 17 minutes after the pre-determined transfer time, at which point the MH370 had already disappeared.

    “Air flight controllers did not initiate various emergency phases … thereby delaying the activation of search and rescue operations,” said Mr Kok.

    How can we call our report a final report? There must be some form of closure
    Kok Soo Chon, head of the safety investigation team

    The safety report dismissed earlier allegations that MH370 plunged into the ocean after running out of fuel or due to aircraft malfunction. But it did confirm that the batteries in the aircraft’s underwater locator device had expired in 2012.

    Two search missions in the south Indian Ocean — the first led by Australia, China and Malaysia and the second carried out in the three months to the end of May by Ocean Infinity, a Texas-based surveying company — have both ended in failure. Aircraft debris — three pieces of which have been confirmed to be from MH370 — have been discovered from as far as South Africa’s coasts.

    But Mr Kok said failed search missions did not mean the MH370 mystery would be let go, despite Monday’s report being initially labelled as final. “The wreckage has not been found. The passengers have not been found. How can we call our report a final report? There must be some form of closure,” he said.

    Mr Kok and his team will travel to China later this week to give a briefing on their findings."
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    France to open new MH370 probe, as victims' families slam Malaysian report

    French aviation authorities are to open a new investigation into the disappearance of Malaysian Airlines flight MH370, days after a report effectively cleared the pilots of any deliberate act to bring the plane down.


    The SR-GTA — the research section of the Gendarmerie of Air Transport — wants to re-examine the satellite data or "pings" that led earlier investigators to conclude the plane crashed somewhere along an imaginary arc in the Indian Ocean, after veering off-course on a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in March 2014.

    The French authority said the presence of four French citizens on board allowed it to carry out its own inquiry, according to a report in Le Parisien newspaper.

    The French decision comes a week after Malaysian investigators released their latest report into the plane's disappearance in March 2014, which found there was no evidence to implicate the two pilots in a deliberate act to bring the plane down.

    Instead it raised the possibility of unlawful "intervention by a third party", but failed to say who such a third party could be.

    The French report said the SR-GTA wants to verify the accuracy or authenticity of the satellite "pings" and all original technical data provided by the British satellite communications company Inmarsat, reported Le Parisien.

    It was Inmarsat that used communications between the plane and its satellite over several hours on the morning of 8 March 2014 to try to determine a possible crash site.

    An Inmarsat spokesperson gave a statement to ABC news on Thursday:

    "I can confirm that, via the UK authorities, we have been approached by the French investigation team," the spokesperson said.

    We will be supporting their enquiry and are on standby to answer any questions that the French investigation team may have."

    In response to specific questions about satellite data the spokesperson told the ABC:

    "It is important to stress that the accuracy and analysis of the data conducted by the international investigation team is not being questioned as part of the French investigation."

    Families of the 239 people on board have slammed the Malaysian report as a cover-up, hitting out at investigators for not raising the possibility of a murder-suicide plot by one or the other pilot.

    Full Report Link: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-0...mh370/10102548
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    Newly Found Debris Marks 'Massive Breakthrough' in Search for MH370 - Report

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    The debris was reportedly recovered off the coast of Madagascar, and the families of the plane’s passengers now hope that this discovery will prompt the authorities to resume the search for the missing airliner.

    As the Malaysian government receives new pieces of debris allegedly belonging to the missing MH370 airliner, it turns out that one of the items “has a label on that could have only come from the plane,” The Daily Star reports.

    According to the newspaper, the debris was recovered off the coast of Madagascar and was to be handed over to the Malaysian authorities during a meeting between the country’s transport minister and relatives of the lost plane’s passengers on Friday.

    "Five new pieces have been recovered. One of them has part of a label still readable," the relatives' spokeswoman Grace Subathrai Nathan said, describing the discovery as a "massive breakthrough". "We are hoping this will mean a new search is launched."

    Another relative also said that this development may well be "an opportunity to reopen the investigation."


    © AFP 2018 / Mohd RASFAN

    Grace Subathirai Nathan (R), daughter of Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 passenger Anne Daisy, shows a piece of debris believed to be from flight MH370 during a press conference in Putrajaya on November 30, 2018

    Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 with 239 passengers and crew on board disappeared from radar screens on March 8, 2014 on its way from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. An official investigation by the Malaysian government has failed to determine the airplane's fate without having discovered the crash site.


    © AFP 2018 / Asit Kumar

    Australia, Malaysia and China called off their three-year joint search for the plane in January 2017 after failing to find any answers in the 120,000-square-kilometer underwater search zone that officials predicted would contain debris from the plane, which is presumed to have crashed somewhere. After the tri-country effort was called to an end, US-based company Ocean Infinity was contracted January 2018 on a "no find, no fee" basis for a three-month search.

    The company initially provided new hope for families, with its Seabed Constructor, deemed one of the world's most advanced undersea vessels, to be employed in the search.
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    Man Who Allegedly Saw MH370's Last Moments REVEALS Crash Site Coordinates

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    The Malaysia Airlines flight went missing in March 2014, but various investigation teams and volunteers have so far failed to find the plane and determine the cause of the crash, leaving plenty of room for speculation and theories regarding what happened.

    A group of Indonesian fisherman led by Rusli Kusmin made a shocking statement on Wednesday at a press conference in Subang Jaya, Malaysia — they claimed to have witnessed the crash of MH370 and even recorded the GPS coordinates of the crash site. Rusli Kusmin and three of his teammates saw the plane engulfed in thick black smoke and going down like a "kite", leaning from left to right.

    The plane's engines were apparently not working, as none of the fishermen heard any noise or explosions as the plane was descending. According to them, it crashed at around 7.30am local time in the Strait of Malacca, which separates the Malay Peninsula and the Indonesian island of Sumatra, 2 kilometres away from the location where Rusli Kusmin and his team were fishing.

    They rushed to the approximate crash site, but when they reached it, the plane had already sunk, without leaving any debris or bodies on the surface of the water. The fishermen still decided to record the GPS coordinates of the location on their on-board computer. The head of the team, Rusli Kusmin, swore on the Quran that his story was true in order to prove that he was serious about his statements.

    Rusli Kusmin later passed on the information of having witnessed a crash to Malaysian and Indonesian authorities, but failed to name specific officials with whom he had spoken. However, soon after this he was contacted by multiple plane hunters who were seeking to gain valuable information, so he decided to avoid further contact with authorities on the matter.

    He was recently persuaded to change his decision by Jacob George, the president of the Consumers Association of Subang and Shah Alam, who claims to have known the MH370's pilot and was seeking to clear his name of rumours that he had committed suicide by crashing the plane. George urged Malaysian authorities to renew their search for the crashed plane using the coordinates provided by the fishermen.

    Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, with 239 passengers and crew on board, disappeared on 8 March, 2014 on its way from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, while flying from Malaysian to Vietnamese air space. After four years of unsuccessful attempts to locate the plane, the Malaysian government abandoned its search in May 2018, admitting that they did not know what happened to the plane.
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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    The plane's engines were apparently not working, as none of the fishermen heard any noise or explosions as the plane was descending. According to them, it crashed at around 7.30am local time in the Strait of Malacca, which separates the Malay Peninsula and the Indonesian island of Sumatra, 2 kilometres away from the location where Rusli Kusmin and his team were fishing.
    Really interesting, but an obvious question here: is it even possible that debris from that location could have drifted down to Madagascar??


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    ... is it even possible that debris from that location could have drifted down to Madagascar??

    I do not know for certain since it all depends on tides currents and overall oceanic currents at the time... we'll know a bit more if they go and have a look in that area to see if there are a couple of engines lying on the ocean floor...

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