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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    Rumours are flying over on twitter that the US military suspects the plane went down in the Indian Ocean [based on something they are not sharing], and are now sending USS Kidd to the scene.

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    Quote Posted by Tesseract (here)
    Rumours are flying over on twitter that the US military suspects the plane went down in the Indian Ocean [based on something they are not sharing], and are now sending USS Kidd to the scene.
    It will take another 24 hours to move the ship into position, a senior Pentagon official told ABC News.

    "We have an indication the plane went down in the Indian Ocean," the senior official said.

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=22894802

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    Quote Posted by Selene (here)
    So, as long as we’re speculating, here’s another theory:

    • A massive electromagnetic pulse (EMP) – source unknown – disables all the plane’s electronics: transponders, communications, navigation, engines, everything. It is a catastrophic failure.

    • The pilot, unable to navigate except by hand and flying a disabled craft, attempts to return to Kuala Lumpur. He cannot communicate.

    • He glides without engines, attempting to control the craft and find safe landing on a moonless night until...

    [...]
    ... except for engines faithfully reporting back to Rolls Royce engineering department for four hours past EMP...

    My own speculation:

    ... someone's hiding what's the left hand is doing... and depending on which way the Altmedia and MSM are going to redirect the spin, i,e, Bermuda triangle, UFO, the unexplained, etc. and we are up for a "Blue Beam" type of stage-setting.

    After all, real planes disappeared out of logs along with all their passengers during 9-11...
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    The relatives agony goes on.....




    Malaysia Airlines MH370: Brother 'still has hope'8 hours ago

    short vid on link...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26556894

    The brother of a passenger on missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has told the
    Today programme that the family remains "in the dark" about potential
    developments.

    James Wood, the brother of American Philip Wood, said his knowledge of events is
    coming from the media.

    Speaking to reporter Tom Bateman, Mr Wood said he had not given up hope of his
    brother being found alive and preferred to think "positively".

    First broadcast on BBC Radio 4's Today programme on Thursday 13 March.

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    Malaysia Airlines MH370: China 'will not give up' on plane

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26556894

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    Quote Posted by Tesseract (here)
    Rumours are flying over on twitter that the US military suspects the plane went down in the Indian Ocean [based on something they are not sharing], and are now sending USS Kidd to the scene.
    It will take another 24 hours to move the ship into position, a senior Pentagon official told ABC News.

    "We have an indication the plane went down in the Indian Ocean," the senior official said.

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=22894802
    Go figure, the USA to the rescue, finding the craft, taking over the narrative, and explaining to the whole world what REALLY happened......unless of course, this development is BS too.

    (what took them so long?)

    Quote ABC News, citing a senior Pentagon official, said the plane may have crashed into the Indian Ocean. With no evidence of a mechanical failure or pilot error, U.S. investigators are treating the disappearance as a case of air piracy, though it remains unclear by whom, one person said.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...eacon-off.html
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    Rolls-Royce and Boeing have denied receiving any flight-time diagnostic data from the missing B777-200 after it was last tracked by civil aviation radar.

    Acting Transport minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein said the aircraft manufacturer and its engine maker did not receive any information from the missing Malaysia Airlines aircraft at any time beyond 1:07 am on Saturday.

    The aircraft was reported in the foreign media to have transmitted to data some four hours after it vanished from commercial radar of the two countries.

    http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-co...-data-1.511211

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    Officials Deny Engine Data Report From Missing MH370
    BY ALASTAIR JAMIESON

    At a news conference that once again provided more questions than answers, Hishammuddin Hussein said: "As far as both Rolls-Royce and Boeing are concerned, those reports are inaccurate."

    However, asked if it were possible that the plane kept flying for several hours, he said, "of course, this is why we have extended the search."

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mis...g-mh370-n51576
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    Apologies if this has already been posted, I haven't read all 15 pages of the thread I must admit..

    Something I found on www.godlikeproductions.com about a group of men on the flight. This is just someone's post from there, but an interesting thing to note:

    ---

    http://www.4-traders.com/news/Freesc...ent--18085991/

    The co-inventors are Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, and Li Ying, Suzhou, China.
    each of these men are on the plane that's missing.

    Big money here, the chip they were making.

    Interesting to note the request for the patent was Dec. 21, 2012. But it didn't get approved until yesterday, four days after the plane vanished.

    Patent holders can make changes to proceeds to heir's if need be, but not until the patent is approved.

    4/5 of these patent holders were on the missing plane. The lone beneficiary of the proceeds from it is now Freescale Semiconductor, as one of the original five 20% holders.

    Freescale is owned by Blackstone which is run by Jacob Rothschild.

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    Quote ABC News, citing a senior Pentagon official, said the plane may have crashed into the Indian Ocean. With no evidence of a mechanical failure or pilot error, U.S. investigators are treating the disappearance as a case of air piracy, though it remains unclear by whom, one person said.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...eacon-off.html
    The Pentagon has told to the Guardian that the US is moving the USS Kidd destroyer northwest through the Strait of Malacca.

    An earlier ABC News report quoted an unnamed “senior Pentagon official” as saying “We have an indication the plane went down in the Indian Ocean.” The Pentagon spokesman told the Guardian that he didn’t know “where ABC is getting that from.”

    The Pentagon spokesman said he could not confirm that the Pentagon was moving the USS Kidd to search the Indian Ocean but that it is searching the Strait of Malacca, the same area searched by a P-3C surveillance aircraft a few days ago.

    EDIT

    It seems that the White House is better briefed than the Pentagon press office. Jay Carney, the White House spokesman, has just confirmed that a new search area may be opened in the Indian Ocean, reports the Guardian’s Paul Lewis in Washington.

    “It is my understanding the one possible piece of information, or pieces of information, has led to the possibility that a new search area may be opened up over the Indian Ocean,” Carney said, without detailing the nature of the new information.

    He said discussions were ongoing with international partners to “deploy the appropriate assets” in any new search in the Indian Ocean. He added the new search would be based on “additional information” that was not yet “conclusive”.

    His comments appear to confirm that earlier story by ABC’s Martha Raddatz.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/blo...b0b23261daf409
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    Quote Silentfeather----> Go figure, the USA to the rescue, finding the craft, taking over the narrative, and explaining to the whole world what REALLY happened......unless of course, this development is BS too.

    (what took them so long?)
    Taking control, USA does have issues around control as all abusers do. (not you lovely US citizens btw)
    'Never let a good opportunity go to waste'

    Something is nagging in my thoughts.
    Warning speculation alert!
    The number of personel from the semiconductor firm, and we don't know how many others in that field, including all the chinese, who may have actually been working in the same field, maybe even enroute to some conference/seminar/info sharing/planning strategy/whatever [...fill in the blank]

    Then the Gerald O'Donnel email, which although 'channelled' and I am not endosing channelling, does have a point.
    Quote [...Therefore, orders were given to de-manifest certain elements in our Creation who could have caused great harm to it, were it not that the Godliness interfered in their projects.

    The One is solemnly warning every single of Its entities that, if need be, It will cause a similar de-manifestation of their existence if they continue opposing the desire It has for all to live in peace and harmony....]
    IF there wasn't a hijack & IF the plane did not send engine data to Rolls Royce, , and the US military have intel of it being in the Indian Ocean then what power could end all communication and transport the plane to 'wherever' 'they' are going to find it.

    Link to the GO web page. http://probablefuture.com/Be-or-Not-Be.htm
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    Quote Posted by Tesseract (here)
    Rumours are flying over on twitter that the US military suspects the plane went down in the Indian Ocean [based on something they are not sharing], and are now sending USS Kidd to the scene.
    Ahh, the good ole' crash retrieval

    They must be careful this time that their complete vessel doesn't disappear ...

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    Woah. If this is true, we could have a motive here.

    Good find, Foxy.

    Quote Posted by MorningFox (here)
    Apologies if this has already been posted, I haven't read all 15 pages of the thread I must admit..

    Something I found on www.godlikeproductions.com about a group of men on the flight. This is just someone's post from there, but an interesting thing to note:

    ---

    http://www.4-traders.com/news/Freesc...ent--18085991/

    The co-inventors are Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, and Li Ying, Suzhou, China.
    each of these men are on the plane that's missing.

    Big money here, the chip they were making.

    Interesting to note the request for the patent was Dec. 21, 2012. But it didn't get approved until yesterday, four days after the plane vanished.

    Patent holders can make changes to proceeds to heir's if need be, but not until the patent is approved.

    4/5 of these patent holders were on the missing plane. The lone beneficiary of the proceeds from it is now Freescale Semiconductor, as one of the original five 20% holders.

    Freescale is owned by Blackstone which is run by Jacob Rothschild.

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    Quote Posted by Gardener (here)
    Quote Silentfeather----> Go figure, the USA to the rescue, finding the craft, taking over the narrative, and explaining to the whole world what REALLY happened......unless of course, this development is BS too.

    (what took them so long?)
    Taking control, USA does have issues around control as all abusers do. (not you lovely US citizens btw)
    'Never let a good opportunity go to waste'

    Something is nagging in my thoughts.
    Warning speculation alert!
    The number of personel from the semiconductor firm, and we don't know how many others in that field, including all the chinese, who may have actually been working in the same field, maybe even enroute to some conference/seminar/info sharing/planning strategy/whatever [...fill in the blank]

    Then the Gerald O'Donnel email, which although 'channelled' and I am not endosing channelling, does have a point.
    Quote [...Therefore, orders were given to de-manifest certain elements in our Creation who could have caused great harm to it, were it not that the Godliness interfered in their projects.

    The One is solemnly warning every single of Its entities that, if need be, It will cause a similar de-manifestation of their existence if they continue opposing the desire It has for all to live in peace and harmony....]
    IF there wasn't a hijack & IF the plane did not send engine data to Rolls Royce, , and the US military have intel of it being in the Indian Ocean then what power could end all communication and transport the plane to 'wherever' 'they' are going to find it.

    Link to the GO web page. http://probablefuture.com/Be-or-Not-Be.htm
    There may have been patent and or secret information "they" did not want reaching China.....who knows.

    US intelligence is looking at "air piracy"??????, isn't that another term for "highjacking"?

    Malaysia is saying it did NOT fly for approx 4hrs after disappearing, the US says it did????? Now NASA is getting involved?

    The turn in the story I mentioned earlier today is starting to happen IMO; it looks as if the US is taking over the narrative (and control) of the situation. Although I'm not so sure they will find the plane in the Indian Ocean, I do believe the US "officials" have the game plan and narrative all figured out.

    The US MSM is their tool, and right now it is basically saying just the opposite of what the Malaysian officials are saying.....US military ship(s) are moving to the area etc etc, sounds like a take over of the situation is in the making to me.
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    Quote Posted by MorningFox (here)
    Apologies if this has already been posted, I haven't read all 15 pages of the thread I must admit..

    Something I found on www.godlikeproductions.com about a group of men on the flight. This is just someone's post from there, but an interesting thing to note:

    ---

    http://www.4-traders.com/news/Freesc...ent--18085991/

    The co-inventors are Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, and Li Ying, Suzhou, China.
    each of these men are on the plane that's missing.

    Big money here, the chip they were making.

    Interesting to note the request for the patent was Dec. 21, 2012. But it didn't get approved until yesterday, four days after the plane vanished.

    Patent holders can make changes to proceeds to heir's if need be, but not until the patent is approved.

    4/5 of these patent holders were on the missing plane. The lone beneficiary of the proceeds from it is now Freescale Semiconductor, as one of the original five 20% holders.

    Freescale is owned by Blackstone which is run by Jacob Rothschild.

    That is mighty greasy IMO. So far seems to be, unfortunately, a plausible explanation. We have a greed factor and a coverup, plus the beneficiary is a Rothy, so something bad is usually the goto answer. I think this is probably one of the better possible scenarios personally. There is a bit of confusion and back tracking on the MSM reporting so I say something is afoot here and its not positive.

    I didnt have time to read all 15 pages of posts, but has anyone postulated the idea the David Wilcock discusses in The Sourcefield Investigations about vortexes? He talks about the map created that plots all the areas where these can happen based on laylines and what have you and goes into detail about previous cases of things disappearing from radar, but they cam back later on.

    The one i remember is a plane about to land had clearance to land, it vanished from radar for`awhile and reappeared and no one on board realized anything happened. eventually they found that all clocks on the plane were behind the actual time by the amount of time they had dissapeared for.

    here is a good file of said areas of concern

    http://reysibayan.com/wp-content/upl...Y-GRID-BIG.jpg
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    This is sounding more like the script from the TV series 'The Event' where the plane was teleported some where else. Curious how the t.v. series was suddenly cancelled.

    So I am wondering, could this boeing disappearance be a technology practice run?
    Or perhaps sending a particular message to someone?

    Regardless of the political chess moves....

    God Bless all those innocent people who were on board the plane, may they find peace - and also sending such healing blessings to their loved ones too.


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    Quote Posted by MorningFox (here)
    The co-inventors are Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, and Li Ying, Suzhou, China.
    each of these men are on the plane that's missing.
    Can't find them on the passengers manifest:


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    Pilot: 777s don't just disappear


    Editor's note: Les Abend is a 777 captain for a major airline with 29 years of flying experience. He is a senior contributor to Flying magazine, a worldwide publication in print for more than 75 years.
    (CNN) -- The lack of definitive information about the fate of Malaysia Flight 370 has baffled and riveted expert and average person alike. Even the promise of Chinese satellite images capturing the location of crash debris turned out to be false, as Malaysian authorities said a search of the area found nothing.
    Amid the muddle of speculation, possibilities and blind alleys, are there logical explanations in this mysterious disappearance? The short answer is yes. But what, of what we know so far, makes sense exactly?
    First, the focus on the airplane's transponders, the device that transmits a discreet signal to Air Traffic Control (ATC) radars, might be misguided. The 777 has two transponders. A failure of one would send a caution message visible to the crew. They would then select the alternate transponder with barely a second thought.
    A double failure? Not likely, unless there was a serious electronic systems failure (more on that later).

    Les Abend
    The only other plausible explanation would have been that the crew moved the knob to the off position. No professional flight crew would knowingly turn off a transponder in flight.
    It is also possible the airplane flew out of ATC radar range by navigational error. Or as part of its assigned route, Malaysia 370 might have participated in a well-defined procedure for nonradar environments.
    Opinion: Conspiracy theories build around disappearance
    The North Atlantic track system between North America and Europe is a good example of an area where such a procedure would be used. Airplanes entering the tracks are required to fly at assigned altitudes and air speeds, separated laterally and vertically. Pilots verbally report set latitude and longitude positions on their cleared flight plans to a ground-based service called AIRINC.
    The nonradar traffic picture is calculated by a computer, based on these position reports. In an airplane as sophisticated as a 777, the on-board computer can generate these reports automatically without verbal communication from the pilots. It is possible that on a portion of Malaysia 370's route, this procedure may have been utilized. If the airplane deviated from its assigned route because of an emergency, no problem would be indicated until the next reporting point because of the lack of ATC radar coverage. The crew would have to communicate the problem to the ground-based facility.
    The 777 is one of the most advanced electronic airplanes built. Data is constantly being processed and transmitted to regulate internal systems, from flight controls to fuel systems and hundreds more. Much of this data is being transmitted automatically to the airline. This data is used for dispatch computations and maintenance, among other uses.
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    Only a very rare major electrical and electronic failure would prevent this information from being transmitted. Information regarding altitude, airspeed and heading is always available. Any irregularities in just these parameters alone would indicate a problem.
    Was the airplane descending rapidly? Did the heading change indicate a course reversal? Did the airspeed increase indicate a dive? It's possible Malaysia Airlines experienced a malfunction in the receiving system -- doubtful, but it would help if the airline made that information available.
    For argument's sake, let's say a major mechanical failure occurred. The crew might have been preoccupied with a serious problem as they progressed through the appropriate electronic checklist. A mayday call might not have been first on their agenda. All pilots are taught to "aviate, navigate and communicate," in that order. Could the mechanical problem have been serious enough for the crew to have lost control of the airplane before a distress signal was sent?
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    Although remote, consider the possibility of a fuel tank explosion.
    For the flight time to Beijing, the center tank would most likely have been empty except for residual fuel as a matter of 777 procedure. The main wing tanks would have sufficient fuel for the trip. Could a short that caused a spark within a fuel boost pump have ignited the trapped vapor within the center tank?
    The National Transportation Safety Board attributes the explosion of TWA Flight 800 off Long Island in 1996 to this cause. That accident involved a 747 and not a 777. Boeing recommended both a mechanical and procedural modification for the potential, but not totally verified, problem for many Boeing airplanes. Airlines began the modifications within two years after the investigation was complete. Did Malaysia Airlines comply with the modification?
    Now that the Chinese satellite image led nowhere, perhaps the rather chaotic search should be conducted over land. A different route may have been chosen if the crew had actually made the decision to return or divert elsewhere.
    Regardless, a debris field will be found. And if the airplane just fell out of the sky, it didn't happen as a result of only one factor. All accidents involve multiple factors.
    Let's keep the speculation in perspective. The accident investigation process can be tedious, if not arduous. But the process is well-organized, especially in the United States; the NTSB's participation will be of tremendous assistance.
    Airplanes don't just disappear.

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    The report I read from a China TV news:

    The Malaysia Airline held a whole day conference with family members in Beijing, also attended by the Malaysian ambassador. The following information was disclosed:

    1. They worked with the Malaysian Telecom to trace a supposedly dialled through mobile phone of a passenger and found the signal came from a place in Kansas City, USA. (!)

    2. The Airline immediately notified the Military upon the disappearance of MH370 at 2:20am. The military detected an UFO nearby at 2:40am. UFO’s connection with the event unknown.

    When families pressed details of the UFO, the ambassador called his government and asked for a military representative to come to explain.

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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    Quote Posted by syrwong (here)
    The report I read from a China TV news:

    The Malaysia Airline held a whole day conference with family members in Beijing, also attended by the Malaysian ambassador. The following information was disclosed:

    1. They worked with the Malaysian Telecom to trace a supposedly dialled through mobile phone of a passenger and found the signal came from a place in Kansas City, USA. (!)

    2. The Airline immediately notified the Military upon the disappearance of MH370 at 2:20am. The military detected an UFO nearby at 2:40am. UFO’s connection with the event unknown.

    When families pressed details of the UFO, the ambassador called his government and asked for a military representative to come to explain.
    This was on MSM news ? Would never happen in the West !

    Kansas ? Perhaps someone clicked his/her heels ?

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    Quote Posted by Operator (here)
    Quote Posted by syrwong (here)
    The report I read from a China TV news:

    The Malaysia Airline held a whole day conference with family members in Beijing, also attended by the Malaysian ambassador. The following information was disclosed:

    1. They worked with the Malaysian Telecom to trace a supposedly dialled through mobile phone of a passenger and found the signal came from a place in Kansas City, USA. (!)

    2. The Airline immediately notified the Military upon the disappearance of MH370 at 2:20am. The military detected an UFO nearby at 2:40am. UFO’s connection with the event unknown.

    When families pressed details of the UFO, the ambassador called his government and asked for a military representative to come to explain.
    This was on MSM news ? Would never happen in the West !

    Kansas ? Perhaps someone clicked his/her heels ?
    It is on CCTV (international Chinese):

    http://v.qq.com/cover/o/oavubyc9vyr6...12&ptlang=2052
    Last edited by syrwong; 13th March 2014 at 19:05.

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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    What are the satellites doing ?
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    This content is NOT on the Avalon server. Source of content is: https://www.mapbox.com/blog/flight-MH370-search-efforts-from-space/

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