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    I wonder if the so called inventor of the Bitcoin was on the flight or one of his family members ??? love to see the manifest , who is who and why they were on that flight ...
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    Do they know if the plane blew up yet via a bomb? Has anyone seen any news articles on that yet?

    I have a really ominous feeling about this one. It sounds like other here share those same sentiments too.

    The problem is though that airlines will do everything in their power to prevent information on what really happened in cases like this so as not to lose any business.
    Am I right about that?

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    Oh, ok... someone else here posted about it being a possible terrorist attack:
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/08/world/...ing-passports/
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    I was just looking at the passenger list and their nationalities and even though there were 2 on that flight with stolen passports, there were also 2 Ukrainians. Considering most of the passengers were Chinese with a very small representation of people from affluent major G8 country's that we find on most international flights, I'm surprised that no one has focused on those 2 Ukrainians especially in light of what's been going on there over the past few weeks.

    Perhaps they were pro-Russian Ukrainians or more specifically, pro-Russian Crimean instead who were planted on that flight to blow it up or hijack it to turn the world against Ukraine so Putin would have an easier time annexing Crimea to Russia.

    To me it seems like it's more than just a coincidence that 2 Ukrainians were on a Malaysian flight like that especially when the last attempted hijacking of a major airliner occurred on the first day of the Sochi Olympics where that hijacker was also Ukrainian.

    Here's a list of the nationalities of those on that flight. But since this list came out, it was then established that the Italian and the Austrian were people with stolen passports.

    Flight manifest: Nationality of passengers

    China/Taiwan: 153 including infant.
    Malaysia: 38.
    India: 5
    Indonesia: 7.
    Australia: 6.
    France: 4.
    United States: 3 including infant.
    New Zealand: 2.
    Ukraine: 2.
    Canada: 2.
    Russian :1.
    Italy: 1.
    Netherlands: 1.
    Austrian: 1

    Source: Malaysia Airlines statement

    Two Ukrainians on a flight like that in that part of the world is as odd as it would be to find two Guatemalans on it instead. The Ukrainians don't fit the roster profile on a manifest for a flight in that part of the world.
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    I was just looking at the passenger list and their nationalities and even though there were 2 on that flight with stolen passports, there were also 2 Ukrainians. Considering most of the passengers were Chinese with a very small representation of people from affluent major G8 country's that we find on most international flights, I'm surprised that no one has focused on those 2 Ukrainians especially in light of what's been going on there over the past few weeks.

    Perhaps they were pro-Russian Ukrainians or more specifically, pro-Russian Crimean instead who were planted on that flight to blow it up or hijack it to turn the world against Ukraine so Putin would have an easier time annexing Crimea to Russia.

    To me it seems like it's more than just a coincidence that 2 Ukrainians were on a Malaysian flight like that especially when the last attempted hijacking of a major airliner occurred on the first day of the Sochi Olympics where that hijacker was also Ukrainian.

    Here's a list of the nationalities of those on that flight. But since this list came out, it was then established that the Italian and the Austrian were people with stolen passports.

    Flight manifest: Nationality of passengers

    China/Taiwan: 153 including infant.
    Malaysia: 38.
    India: 5
    Indonesia: 7.
    Australia: 6.
    France: 4.
    United States: 3 including infant.
    New Zealand: 2.
    Ukraine: 2.
    Canada: 2.
    Russian :1.
    Italy: 1.
    Netherlands: 1.
    Austrian: 1

    Source: Malaysia Airlines statement

    Two Ukrainians on a flight like that in that part of the world is as odd as it would be to find two Guatemalans on it instead. The Ukrainians don't fit the roster profile on a manifest for a flight in that part of the world.
    2 Ukranians and 1 Russian. ??????? Im with you roisin. Something is off about this.
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    Right... the Russian too simply because the 2 Ukrainians were on that flight too. It will be interesting to see if any journalists from a major newspaper or magazine researches on this. To me, it automatically raises a red flag.

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    http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/08/malays...-dead-4473676/

    Malaysia Airlines plane crash: Lack of SOS call from missing jet ‘extraordinary’

    At least 239 passengers on board a missing Malaysia Airlines plane are feared dead after it disappeared over the South China Sea.

    A major search operation was launched after the plane flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing lost communication in Vietnam’s airspace at 1.20am local time.

    A leading aviation safety expert has said it is ‘extraordinary’ that the pilots of the jetliner did not make a distress call.

    The Boeing B777-200 aircraft would have been cruising at about 35,000 feet when it lost contact over the South China Sea.

    It would have given the pilots ‘plenty of time’ to report any technical problems, Flight Global’s operations and safety editor David Learmount said.

    ======================

    EMP attack would knock out SOS call capabilities onboard the jetliner...

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    Just received this at 5:20 PM:

    Quote The FBI is sending agents to Malaysia to support the investigation into the disappearance of Flight 370.

    The FBI is getting involved because of the Americans on board, and they are not ruling out terrorism or any other issue as a possible cause in the jetliner's disappearance.

    There have been no sightings of wreckage or other signs of the aircraft. We have not been able to locate anything or see anything. There's nothing new to this report.

    Previous to the above (3:45 PM) I had received this:

    Quote Twenty of the passengers aboard Flight 370 worked with Freescale Semiconductor, which is based in Austin, Texas. 12 of the employees are from Malaysia and eight are from China.

    I don't know if these two reports are related in any way.
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    Quote Posted by Harley Hawkins (here)
    Just received this at 5:20 PM:

    Quote The FBI is sending agents to Malaysia to support the investigation into the disappearance of Flight 370.

    The FBI is getting involved because of the Americans on board, and they are not ruling out terrorism or any other issue as a possible cause in the jetliner's disappearance.

    There have been no sightings of wreckage or other signs of the aircraft. We have not been able to locate anything or see anything. There's nothing new to this report.

    Previous to the above (3:45 PM) I had received this:

    Quote Twenty of the passengers aboard Flight 370 worked with Freescale Semiconductor, which is based in Austin, Texas. 12 of the employees are from Malaysia and eight are from China.

    I don't know if these two reports are related in any way.
    Quote In 2011, the company launched the industry’s first multimode wireless base station processor family that scales from small to large cells – integrating DSP and communications processor technologies to realize a true "base station-on-chip".[12] In addition, a recent ABI Research market study report states that Freescale owns 60% share of the Radio Frequency (RF) semiconductor device market.

    Also in 2011, Freescale announced the company's first magnetometer for location tracking in smart mobile devices
    .
    and,

    Quote Motorola announced that their semiconductor division would be divested on October 6, 2003 to create Freescale. Freescale completed its IPO on July 16, 2004.

    On September 15, 2006, Freescale agreed to a $17.6 billion buyout by a consortium led by Blackstone Group and its co-investors, Carlyle Group, TPG Capital, and Permira.[19]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freescale_Semiconductor

    Black ops makes for strange bedfellows. Kinda. The story for the longest time, was that Motorola was owned by 'organized crime'. Which is why, of course, the world's largest similar organization, ie their partner, 'the law', would use Motorola products. then of course, skull&bones, Dulles brothers, project paperclip, the union banking corporation, the Bush-Carlyle connection, CIA, and so on.

    Smells like some sort of a 'hit' to me.

    Direct (backdoor but very real) CIA connection to owning the company that designs the complex computer/RF chips that are in your wireless devices?

    That's what it reads, to me.....
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    Two more Europeans with suspect identities onboard missing MH370

    http://news.malaysia.msn.com/tmi/two...-missing-mh370

    "Authorities have yet to confirm the identities of two more European passengers on flight MH370, adding to two others using stolen passports in the Malaysia Airlines plane which vanished over the Malaysia-Vietnam maritime border yesterday. The Malaysian Insider understands that all four had bought their flight tickets from China Southern...

    Authorities have yet to confirm the identities of two more European passengers on flight MH370, adding to two others using stolen passports in the Malaysia Airlines plane which vanished over the Malaysia-Vietnam maritime border yesterday.

    "The background checks with the embassies are being done but these two cannot be confirmed," a source told The Malaysian Insider, adding that both were from the same country."

    -------------------------------
    So are they the 2 Ukrainians?

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    And the partner Blackstone, reads like a who's who and what 's what of the rolling breaking disaster capitalism that has become America today.

    Here's one that points to the direction it is coming from and going to. Remember this mess is precipitated on a housing disaster that was purposely created. That we have a derivatives mess that cannot exist, a bubble of bull**** created by people driven by god-knows-what, for who knows what.

    The second chapter of the derivatives bubble is to feast on the bones, repackage and make MORE bull**** derivatives.... as the world finance corpse that they created 'looks like it moved a bit', so they hit it again, with the same trick.

    And we find Blackstone in this:

    Quote After subprime mortgage crisis, Blackstone Group LP has bought more than $5.5 billion single-family homes for rent and then sell when the prices rise.[18]
    Neck deep in the same mire and crap.

    You can't even talk about the connections that are in this downed flight without touching (all over) the darker parts of what is responsible for this current world political and finance situation.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blackstone_Group
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    This is starting to grab my attention, it seems they would of found debris by now if it crashed....and if it was highjacked, it seems it still couldn't of flew too far without being noticed by some intelligence orgs and or some radar/satellite systems. Plus a 777 needs a pretty large runway to land.

    If they don't find a debris field within the next 24hrs, I'll really be surprised.
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    It turns out those stolen passports were on the interpol database - and yet the carriers were still allowed to get through security.

    Another thought I had - why don't they ever use satellites for these kind of searches, or to track the planes?

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    "We received information from a Vietnamese plane saying that they found two broken objects, which seem like those of an aircraft, located about 50 miles (80 kilometres) to the south-west of Tho Chu Island," said an official from Vietnam's National Committee for Search and Rescue, who did not want to be named.

    Vietnamese authorities searching waters for a missing Boeing 777 airliner have spotted an object that they suspect is one of the plane's doors:



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    There is a video online showing an animation of the flight radar record for flight MH307, the maker of the video - dahboo77 - highlights a nearby object that seems to change direction and fly at a high speed:



    I went to flighradar24 myself and replayed KUL (that's the airport flight 307 departed from) data from around that time. I saw that the record in dahboo77's video is correct, there is shown a fast moving plane. I hovered the cursor over the little plane icon to identify the mystery flight. The flight in question is KE672/KAL672, Korean Airlines, Kuala Lumpur to Seoul.

    This link might not work, but if it does it will take you straight to the radar animation showing all flights in the air at UTC 16:50.

    http://www.flightradar24.com/2014-03.../5.58,104.05/7


    The website doesn't run very smoothly for me, but I was able to get a flight path that makes very little sense, however I have analysed it and summarised that in the image below. The KAL672 plane apparently reverses course twice, then flies faster than it should be able to, before slowing down to normal speed, disappearing moments before flight 307 disappears, then reappears moments after, on its correct heading. Some of the details change a little bit if you reload the page and play it again, so this is just approximate.


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    The flight path of KAL672, if you click the plane icon again after its played through till at least 17:47, shows up in the correct form, shown below. I suspect the above path is an artefact of bad data or bad software.

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    I also show the map of the wreckage site, very approximate, from Buares location, and the last radar image of the fligh 307 from flightdata24.

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    Quote Posted by Harley Hawkins (here)
    Just received this at 5:20 PM:

    Quote The FBI is sending agents to Malaysia to support the investigation into the disappearance of Flight 370.

    The FBI is getting involved because of the Americans on board, and they are not ruling out terrorism or any other issue as a possible cause in the jetliner's disappearance.

    There have been no sightings of wreckage or other signs of the aircraft. We have not been able to locate anything or see anything. There's nothing new to this report.

    Previous to the above (3:45 PM) I had received this:

    Quote Twenty of the passengers aboard Flight 370 worked with Freescale Semiconductor, which is based in Austin, Texas. 12 of the employees are from Malaysia and eight are from China.

    I don't know if these two reports are related in any way.
    ================================================== ====================

    post edit Sorry Carmody, I see you beat me to this. I slipped by your post the first time around.

    Freescale Semiconductor

    http://www.freescale.com/

    link to a few other related articles
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/08/world/...ing/index.html

    THIS
    got my spidy senses tingling. Might be nothing, or it might be something. Click on it to make larger.
    Attachment 25157


    link to that page for further possible dot connecting. This could very well have absolutely nothing to do with this crash. But as the smart meter subject matter is controversial, and that so many victims of this plane crash were Freescale employees, it needs to be looked at in my opinion. Freescale also does many other things besides smart meters. Although, the smart meter obviously has been quite lucrative.
    http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/...APL_ENERGY_EFF

    post edit Sorry Carmody, I see you beat me to this. I slipped by your post the first time around.
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    SEPANG: A BOEING 777 pilot, who was flying 30 minutes ahead of the missing Malaysia Airlines aircraft, said he established contact with MH370 minutes after he was asked to do so by Vietnamese air traffic control.

    The captain, who asked to not be named, said his plane, which was bound for Narita, Japan, was far into Vietnamese airspace when he was asked to relay, using his plane's emergency frequency, to MH370 for the latter to establish its position, as the authorities could not contact the aircraft:

    Quote "We managed to establish contact with MH370 just after 1.30am and asked them if they have transferred into Vietnamese airspace.

    "The voice on the other side could have been either Captain Zaharie (Ahmad Shah, 53,) or Fariq (Abdul Hamid, 27), but I was sure it was the co-pilot.

    "There were a lot of interference... static... but I heard mumbling from the other end.

    "That was the last time we heard from them, as we lost the connection,"
    http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general...plane-1.503464
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    Quote Posted by buares (here)
    SEPANG: A BOEING 777 pilot, who was flying 30 minutes ahead of the missing Malaysia Airlines aircraft, said he established contact with MH370 minutes after he was asked to do so by Vietnamese air traffic control.

    The captain, who asked to not be named, said his plane, which was bound for Narita, Japan, was far into Vietnamese airspace when he was asked to relay, using his plane's emergency frequency, to MH370 for the latter to establish its position, as the authorities could not contact the aircraft:

    Quote "We managed to establish contact with MH370 just after 1.30am and asked them if they have transferred into Vietnamese airspace.

    "The voice on the other side could have been either Captain Zaharie (Ahmad Shah, 53,) or Fariq (Abdul Hamid, 27), but I was sure it was the co-pilot.

    "There were a lot of interference... static... but I heard mumbling from the other end.

    "That was the last time we heard from them, as we lost the connection,"
    http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general...plane-1.503464
    Sad, very sad. So mystifying and the truth could be frightening. Base on this thread alone, I rule out natural causes.

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    http://rt.com/news/malaysia-plane-missing-crash-766/


    "Adding more mystery to the story, the family of one of the passengers aboard the missing plane successfully rang the person's cell phone, but nobody answered, Mirror Online reported.

    The relatives asked Malaysia Airlines to use satellite technologies and intercept the phone signal before its battery is run down."


    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...t-live-3219331

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    This picture reveals the possible debris which investigators are searching for in the South China Sea.

    According to the South China Morning Post, it was taken by a passenger on board another flight landing in Kuala Lumpur.

    He spotted the yellow dots in the sea as the plane started its descent and posted them online.

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    The FBI also now suspects there were four stolen passports used and not two.
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