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    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03...ysia-airlines/


    it was the above where that was mentioned.

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    Ok so I just thought of something. Al of these supposedly stolen passports, and people on the plane not suppose to me etc, what if this is a false flag created to roll out mandatory chipping in order to fly. It seems the passport thing has been he frontline of this investigation so far. Alll eyes on the passports and whos whats and wheres. Should be be going down that list of passengers to make sure they even really exist?

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    [QUOTE=sdv;807255]
    Quote Posted by Cardillac (here)
    Don't fly on a 77 if you have an alternative
    Are you serious ?

    The 777 has not had ONE fatal accident due to malfunction in its entire 20 year history. That's a phenomenal safety record and unprecedented as far as I know. The one fatal accident there was was that one where the tail hit the end of the runway at LA. Pure pilot error.

    It's the most reliable aircraft ever built - probably because it was the last of a technology generation that had reached full maturity. After that they started with the carbon fibre 787's and we all know how that ended up.

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    Early in the prototype testing of the 777, one engineer raised alarms about catastrophic vibrational problems in the event of an engine failure, and the aircraft flying for a lengthy period of time on the remaining engine, ie several hours. I'm not aware that any such incident has occurred and I certainly don't think this is the case here. But anything mechanical can fail at some point, and that's largely dependent on maintenence and age or teething problems with new technology (as is the case with the 787 Dreamliner). Regardless of the aircraft's undeniable reliability, the human factor is always a big question mark.

    Re the "Dragon's Triangle", this is not in the same area: the "Asian Bermuda Triangle" is below and to the East of Japan (approx 100 km from Tokyo, stretching to Formosa). However, that's just one of 12 "vortices"... apparently.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Sea
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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    The posts here are good, but we are presently running around 2 threads of the same topic. It would be nice if the thread were merged so that we can have all info and logic in one place, it makes for better findings and debates.

    Cardillac, if you do not mind, we could merge our two threads. What do you think?

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    The information here is very good. Thanks everybody.

    It would be nice if we could merge both threads on this topic. Mods, is this possilbe?

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    the United States extensively reviewed imagery taken by spy satellites for evidence of a mid-air explosion, but saw none, a U.S. government source said. The source described U.S. satellite coverage of the region as thorough.

    http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Natio...ng-MH370-fate/

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    Hello Sigma6 , In my country they say: piensa mal y acertaras!. Transl: THINK BAD AND YOU'LL NAIL IT! I have some itchy sensation that you are in the right track!, the whole subject is full of holes, passports stolen, no debries on sea surface, search party no one knows anything of? ,too fishy .......and then probably the'll come up with a ultrastupid explanation like Oh! the food on board was too hot and interfere with electronics, bla lara lala!

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    It was a terrorist attack...specifics to be released once certain leads are investigated.

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    The media here is concentrating on the stolen passport question. Apparently there are thousands that go missing every year. The plane had mostly chinese people on board, but there was also a large number from other countries. It really is no longer possible to assume that anywhere is populated by a certain ethnicity. Europeans are no longer unusual in eastern China, and many Australian and New Zealanders, for example, have asian or middle eastern ethnicity.

    I think it is a good thing that this mysterious event is not being treated with media hysteria. The facts are gradually coming out, though it is possible it will be years before the most likely story will emerge.

    I am hearing in all the news, and other sources, that this type of aircraft is very safe indeed. The one crash was proved to be human error, and there have been no other scares. That is why there is so much concern, and the lack of a mayday call does seem odd to say the least.

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    MAS CEO Ahmad Jauhari Yahya repeated that the airline follows every protocol and security measure and responded to questions on the cockpit, saying cockpit door is always kept locked, and cannot be opened from the outside, adding that the pilots in the cockpit will be able to see who is outside the door via a video feed.


    http://www.therakyatpost.com/news/20...-off-the-grid/

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    Man claims possible sighting of airliner
    Kota Baru: A businessman in Ketereh claimed that he saw a bright white light, believed to be of an aircraft, descending at high speed towards the South China Sea about 1.45am on the day flight MH370 went missing.

    Alif Fathi Abdul Hadi, 29, told the New Straits Times what he saw after lodging a report with the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) in Tok Bali earlier today. Alif said he was in the compound of his home when he saw the bright white light, which he described as similar to the ones used by airplanes during night flights.

    Quote "I was walking towards my back door when I caught a glimpse of the white light.
    "It was moving towards the sea, towards Bachok area, which was unusual.
    "Usually, aircrafts that fly over here have their usual route pattern, but this one went completely towards the other way,"
    Alif said he watched the light's movement for about five minutes, before realising that it was descending.
    However, he said he was not sure that it was an airplane as he only saw the light.
    He said there was no blinking red light.

    Quote "I did not think much about it, and went to sleep.
    "Only the next day, when I heard the news on the radio, I thought that the light I saw could be from the aircraft's.
    "After discussing with my family members, they advised me to lodge a report, and I hope this information can be of any help,"

    Alif Fathi Abdul Hadi, 29, (right) lodged a report with the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) in Tok Bali today. Accompanying him is his uncle Rosman Ishak, 55. Pix by Hariz Mohd.

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    Ok so I just thought of something. Al of these supposedly stolen passports, and people on the plane not suppose to me etc, what if this is a false flag created to roll out mandatory chipping in order to fly. It seems the passport thing has been he frontline of this investigation so far. Alll eyes on the passports and whos whats and wheres. Should be be going down that list of passengers to make sure they even really exist?
    My thoughts exactly. The FBI are involved so the desired conclusion will be "terrorists", regardless of the truth. We can be certain of one thing - there will be increased airport security from now on, checking of passports definitely, and probably accompanied by some other meaningless, invasive, irrelevant procedure.

    Actually this is something else that's been puzzling me: Passports were standardized on the insistence of the USA in order for them to be readable by the scanning devices. THEY ARE scanned and read at passport control (at least they are at every border I've crossed in the last few years), but it would seem that whatever computer system those devices are attached to doesn't check the legitimacy of the passport ! Not for much longer methinks.

    People are asking why no-one was suspicious of Asians carrying European passports. Why should they be suspicious ? People emigrate and take on new nationalities. Two of the "Canadians" on the plane were Asian too. As far as I'm concerned, if the passport holder looks like the photo in the passport, there should be no problem. There's already too much suspicion in this world, we don't need any more. But, like I said - we can be certain that we are in for some increased paranoia and increased security, alll for our own good of course.

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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    Natural News Just posted a good article about what isn't being told about the disappearance of this flight. Worth a look or posting here.

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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    LivioRazio- yes, I posted the link yesterday on page 4 of this thread (I think it was 4).

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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    Here it is again.
    http://www.naturalnews.com/044244_Ma..._vanished.html

    (NaturalNews) There are some astonishing things you're not being told about Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the flight that simply vanished over the Gulf of Thailand with 239 people on board.

    The mystery of the flight's sudden and complete disappearance has even the world's top air safety authorities baffled. "Air-safety and antiterror authorities on two continents appeared equally stumped about what direction the probe should take," reports the Wall Street Journal.

    WSJ goes on to report:

    "For now, it seems simply inexplicable," said Paul Hayes, director of safety and insurance at Ascend Worldwide, a British advisory and aviation data firm.

    While investigators are baffled, the mainstream media isn't telling you the whole story, either. So I've assembled this collection of facts that should raise serious questions in the minds of anyone following this situation.

    • Fact #1: All Boeing 777 commercial jets are equipped with black box recorders that can survive any on-board explosion

    No explosion from the plane itself can destroy the black box recorders. They are bomb-proof structures that hold digital recordings of cockpit conversations as well as detailed flight data and control surface data.

    • Fact #2: All black box recorders transmit locator signals for at least 30 days after falling into the ocean

    Yet the black box from this particular incident hasn't been detected at all. That's why investigators are having such trouble finding it. Normally, they only need to "home in" on the black box transmitter signal. But in this case, the absence of a signal means the black box itself -- an object designed to survive powerful explosions -- has either vanished, malfunctioned or been obliterated by some powerful force beyond the worst fears of aircraft design engineers.

    • Fact #3: Many parts of destroyed aircraft are naturally bouyant and will float in water

    In past cases of aircraft destroyed over the ocean or crashing into the ocean, debris has always been spotted floating on the surface of the water. That's because -- as you may recall from the safety briefing you've learned to ignore -- "your seat cushion may be used as a flotation device."

    Yes, seat cushions float. So do many other non-metallic aircraft parts. If Flight 370 was brought down by an explosion of some sort, there would be massive debris floating on the ocean, and that debris would not be difficult to spot. The fact that it has not yet been spotted only adds to the mystery of how Flight 370 appears to have literally vanished from the face of the Earth.

    • Fact #4: If a missile destroyed Flight 370, the missile would have left a radar signature

    One theory currently circulating on the 'net is that a missile brought down the airliner, somehow blasting the aircraft and all its contents to "smithereens" -- which means very tiny pieces of matter that are undetectable as debris.

    The problem with this theory is that there exists no known ground-to-air or air-to-air missile with such a capability. All known missiles generate tremendous debris when they explode on target. Both the missile and the debris produce very large radar signatures which would be easily visible to both military vessels and air traffic authorities.

    • Fact #5: The location of the aircraft when it vanished is not a mystery

    Air traffic controllers have full details of almost exactly where the aircraft was at the moment it vanished. They know the location, elevation and airspeed -- three pieces of information which can readily be used to estimate the likely location of debris.

    Remember: air safety investigators are not stupid people. They've seen mid-air explosions before, and they know how debris falls. There is already a substantial data set of airline explosions and crashes from which investigators can make well-educated guesses about where debris should be found. And yet, even armed with all this experience and information, they remain totally baffled on what happened to Flight 370.

    • Fact #6: If Flight 370 was hijacked, it would not have vanished from radar

    Hijacking an airplane does not cause it to simply vanish from radar. Even if transponders are disabled on the aircraft, ground radar can still readily track the location of the aircraft using so-called "passive" radar (classic ground-based radar systems that emit a signal and monitor its reflection).

    Thus, the theory that the flight was hijacked makes no sense whatsoever. When planes are hijacked, they do not magically vanish from radar.

    Conclusion: Flight 370 did not explode; it vanished

    The inescapable conclusion from what we know so far is that Flight 370 seems to have utterly and inexplicably vanished. It clearly was not hijacked (unless there is a cover-up regarding the radar data), and we can all be increasingly confident by the hour that this was not a mid-air explosion (unless debris suddenly turns up that they've somehow missed all along).

    The inescapable conclusion is that Flight 370 simply vanished in some way that we do not yet understand. This is what is currently giving rise to all sorts of bizarre-sounding theories across the 'net, including discussions of possible secret military weapons tests, Bermuda Triangle-like ripples in the fabric of spacetime, and even conjecture that non-terrestrial (alien) technology may have teleported the plane away.

    Personally, I'm not buying any of that without a lot more evidence. The most likely explanation so far is that the debris simply hasn't been found yet because it fell over an area which is somehow outside the search zone. But as each day goes by, even this explanation becomes harder and harder to swallow.

    The frightening part about all this is not that we will find the debris of Flight 370; but rather that we won't. If we never find the debris, it means some entirely new, mysterious and powerful force is at work on our planet which can pluck airplanes out of the sky without leaving behind even a shred of evidence.

    If there does exist a weapon with such capabilities, whoever control it already has the ability to dominate all of Earth's nations with a fearsome military weapon of unimaginable power. That thought is a lot more scary than the idea of an aircraft suffering a fatal mechanical failure.

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    Quote from the end of that Natural News article-If there does exist a weapon with such capabilities, whoever control it already has the ability to dominate all of Earth's nations with a fearsome military weapon of unimaginable power. That thought is a lot more scary than the idea of an aircraft suffering a fatal mechanical failure.

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/044244_Ma...#ixzz2vcYQcwHv.

    There's another thread about a UFO over the Ukraine. Even though some of the article that was cited about the "Dreadnought" was bogus, could there really be a craft in use that was built on earth that could destroy a 777 including its black box without leaving a trace?

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    I am unsure whether this particular report has been posted as yet (forgive my lack of research if it has) but this could throw a bit of a spin onto the whole topic....

    http://beforeitsnews.com/events/2014...d-2432738.html

    It is conceivable that the Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 plane is “cloaked,” hiding with high-tech electronic warfare weaponry that exists and is used. In fact, this type of technology is precisely the expertise of Freescale, that has 20 employees on board the missing flight
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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    Quote Posted by Ahnung-quay (here)
    There's another thread about a UFO over the Ukraine. Even though some of the article that was cited about the "Dreadnought" was bogus, could there really be a craft in use that was built on earth that could destroy a 777 including its black box without leaving a trace?
    Yes, something like that ... the Iranians have demonstrated that they are able to pick the most sophisticated drones out
    of the air like they were fresh berries on a bush. The moment they take over the target is wrapped in a 'bubble', no signal
    goes in, no signal comes out. That complete 'system' becomes one and is landed as one ...

    I am not sure it was used here (and by them) but the technology evidently seems to exist.
    Perhaps this is a demonstration of some sort and maybe one day we'll see the airplane back in one piece (would be nice!).
    And yes, that's some scary game-changing technology ...

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