#BBCtrending: The pro-Russia 'fakes' in Ukraine? where have we seen that before !!!

[Cidersomerset]

This article made me smile and frown simultaneously. I have been watching the BBC
docu drama 37 days about Lord Grey and how the great powers stumbled into the
great war.( WW1) and it reminds you how history is always repeating itself and how
this crisis could easily escalate if not diplomatically resolved. providing there is not
other agendas which are being discussed on other threads...There are parallels how
the Russians were drawn into the conflict on behalf of their Serbian cousins and the
ethnic Russians in Ukraine imo, and of course we are approaching the centenary of
that horrific conflict and we know how much the PTB like there bloody anniversaries.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...nth_in_Summer/

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jaIg-dAaeBY

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8 March 2014 Last updated at 01:30

.#BBCtrending: The pro-Russia 'fakes' in Ukraine? BBC Trending
By BBC Trending

What's popular and why


Is this the same woman? Some social media users in Ukraine seem to think so.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UE4LAf8QmcQ

The woman has appeared in interviews in cities across Ukraine under different
names, spreading an anti-protest and pro-Russian message. It's led to a deluge of
videos and pictures being shared on social media platforms as people try to spot
the woman.




Anne-Marie Tomchak from #BBCtrending investigates whether this is the same
woman and discovers a trend of spotting 'fakes' in #Ukraine.

Produced by Benjamin Zand and Suzanne Whiteman.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-26491349

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Now whether the they are using actors and false information is of course possible,
but its the fact the Beeb and I presume other outlets are publishing this common
theory about false flag and crises actor operations that have become the norm in
western disinfo ops. But the western mainstream has not published the Boston
and other crises Actors activities that I have read.



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This article is interesting from the 28th jan, the anchor points out if there was oil in
the Ukraine the west would have reacted earlier...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EePiUtZxDBM

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Putins motives are quite plain to me in one sense, securing the Crimea peninsula
and its navel base and strategic location in a pro Russian satellite. There could be
more behind it ? but we will have to see how things develop.





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"Crisis actress" BUSTED: Adriana Victoria Muñoz fully EXPOSED!!!!!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pDMzbmxISIA

Published on 3 May 2013


Whenever and wherever there's a false flag event of the US government, you will
probably see her being interviewed by the News channels, using fake names and
giving a scripted version of the facts that fits any specific agenda of TPTB. But NOW
she's fully exposed.

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[giovonni]

Same old same old ...

"History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce."

Karl Marx


World War One Was ... Ukraine Is ...

[Cidersomerset]

I was trying to find the U'tubes about the Crises actors, but cannot find
them.I know I posted them on the Boston thread, but that's over 50 pgeses
long..LOL...Just saw on post with the classic false flag signature.


Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

A reminder for new & old members looking in......Drills,False flags, media manipulation !!


ITV News - Drills Ran on day of london bombings 7-7-05

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tgq__prSU2Q

Uploaded on 14 Jan 2007


Government was running drills of bombings at exact same stations at the
exact same times - reported by ITV. This news was not reported thereafter.
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7/7 London bombings - Terrorist exercise Peter Power - Cover up?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pPhO-ghltVQ

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Classic media intel leak !!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=l4DMnmKJE1Y

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=crisis+actors

[Cidersomerset]

I did find it in the end.....

Well they definitely exist Dennis....I never really thought about it.
I knew they do reconstructions but as shown on 9/11 anything
is possible to deceive the public. Good 'Spidey' sences ..LOL...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bh3xyYYv-S8

Published on 5 Dec 2012


Brooke Baldwin talks to CNN's Poppy Harlow about amputees training soldiers for
combat situations.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_BXMkMB1ln8

Actually I did post a link on one of the other threads that David Icke posted
this morning ....

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013...ston-fake.html

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...531#post664531

[Cidersomerset]

Same old same old ...

"History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce."

Karl Marx


World War One Was ... Ukraine Is ...

I agree Giovani and in the famous words of those
philosophers ABBA.....

" The history books on the shelf are always repeating themselves "..LOL



The 200th anniversary of which is next year 2015 !!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=85yMOPKR94M

[Cidersomerset]

Just watched part three of the series and found out more of the details that
led to the folly of WW 1. The actual pretext Germany used for invading France
was that France attacked Nuremberg with aircraft a complete fabrication thus
another of many 'False Flag' operations to kick off a conflict.

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Quote from Four Steps to War June-Aug 1914


1 August: The Kaiser, therefore, gave the order to mobilise and Germany
declared war on Russia.


• 3 August: claiming that French planes had bombed the German town of
Nuremberg, Germany declared war on France.


• 4 August: with German troops on the march to invade France, the French
declared war on Germany.

http://www.johndclare.net/causes_WWI4.htm

[Gardener]

Cider ----> Just watched part three of the series and found out more of the details that
led to the folly of WW 1. The actual pretext Germany used for invading France
was that France attacked Nuremberg with aircraft a complete fabrication thus
another of many 'False Flag' operations to kick off a conflict.

(my bold)

Its not going to be that easy for them this time, we are watching and we know more than we did then. There is a need to keep talking about what we see, whoever orchestrates these conflicts needs the element of surprise, without it the 'plan' crumbles or rather cannot be created, loses its power to be manifest.
Maybe looking to the Ukraine is not where we should be looking currently,
The 4 women in the pictures are not the same, 2 of them might be, look at their eybrows.

[Cidersomerset]

The 4 women in the pictures are not the same, 2 of them might be, look at their eybrows.

They are not the same , I agree but its the fact it was on the Beeb's web site, that's
telling for me after not a mention about all the other speculation of the same
manipulation going on else where particularly in the US.

[Etherios]

OMG Russia is using fake info to persuade the public about something omg ... erm wait ... isnt this nothing compared to what we in the west have done to the hole world? Iraq, Libya, Syria, Egypt ... nah dont think about that ... they were justified ... not.


Dont get distracted by this theater ... if we get stuck to they did it or we did it ... we will never end that and they will still laugh at us.

[Maunagarjana]

Clearly not the same woman. Look at the noses, eyes, lips, ears. Not same.

[Cidersomerset]

Clearly not the same woman. Look at the noses, eyes, lips, ears. Not same.

OMG Russia is using fake info to persuade the public about something omg ... erm wait ... isnt this nothing compared to what we in the west have done to the hole world? Iraq, Libya, Syria, Egypt ... nah dont think about that ... they were justified ... not.


Dont get distracted by this theater ... if we get stuck to they did it or we did it ... we will never end that and they will still laugh at us.

Exactly the point I'm making, the BBC and other western outlets have not
mentioned all the speculation about false flag and other dis info operations by the
west. But are prepared to publish a 'dodgy' U'tube about possible pro Russia
demonstrators that do not look that alike.

[Etherios]

this has been posted in these threads but he explains VERY VERY well why we should not get cough in this 2 sides choice we are been forced to get in.

The Enemy of My Enemy

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6Wv6lgyOUGk

[Cidersomerset]

The Truthseeker: NGO documents plan Ukraine war (E35)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SEcZFgSnVP0

Published on 8 Mar 2014


NGOs caught forging documents for war, insider warns all NGOs
infiltrated; 'Independent military observers' for EU-based group OSCE again turned
away in Crimea, OSCE branded one more 'vulgar instrument' for foreign interests;
and CNN buys the latest State Department hoax.

Seek truth from facts with Illinois University Professor of International Law and
former Amnesty board member Francis Boyle; Infowars Editor Paul Joseph Watson;
Eric Draitser of Boiling Frogs Post; Ron Paul Institute Executive Director Daniel
McAdams; Ukraine protest organizers; Sliman Bouchuiguir, whose NGO fabricated
the claims against Libya; and Asst. Secretary of State Vic Nuland.