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    Default 2008 $2 Trillion False Flag Event at the U.S. Treasury

    $2 Trillion False Flag Event at the U.S. Treasury, The Fed’s Furtive Filching
    (http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article23387.html)
    Language is bit on martian side, but it makes a point: via well known "privatizing the profits, socializing the loss" FED is laundering all those not necessarily lawful mortgages into freshly printed US. Treasury Notes. So U.S. Taxpayers receive zero value trash for even more debt!
    In this light, all that sloppy job at IOU ownership seems to be planned from day one: provide debt that will default, earning commission (1) pack it to MBS and sell it to investors(2), Short those very products and collect cash when they default (3) .. then sell this trash to FED at pre crash price(4) And now sell this same trash to only person that cannot run from it: the taxpayer (5)... Quintuple scam... just ... WOW.....
    Quote $2,000,000,000,000.00 dollars has been stolen from the US Treasury!! What happened? Who did it? Did they get away with it?

    The answers: A ‘false flag’ event, the Federal Reserve, and yes.

    The theft was planned. It started with a ‘false flag’ event in 2008. Much like the ‘false flag’ event of 2001 in which two planes somehow imploded three buildings, the false flag event of 2008 was a game changer. As you remember, the big banks had bankrupted themselves with derivative driven debt issuance that could not be repaid. The financial system was in peril. Or, so we were led to believe. We were told by the Treasury Secretary at the time that ‘toxic illiquid assets were clogging up the system’ and preventing the lending process from working. They needed immediate assistance and that assistance could only come from the Federal Reserve. All we had to do was to surrender the Treasury. Our Congress complied and the false flag ruse had worked again. The theft could proceed.
    Quote What have we learned, kids? Well, the Fed has perpetrated this heist and they are going to get away with it. They are now engaged in QE2 that appears to be an exercise in laundering the garbage for Treasuries. Instead of returning any money back to the Treasury, they are exchanging the garbage for Treasuries. Thus, the Fed’s balance sheet will remain in the $2,000,000,000,000.00 range and they have effectively pulled off the most successful heist in history. And to make it worse, we are going to have to pay them interest on the looted Treasuries! Seems Nancy Pelosi and her crew are about as competent as Asa – the old bank guard on the Andy Griffith show. History should always be recorded properly.
    And another WOW fact: I have yet to hear about major riot in connection to that. I mean, people are gang raped in broad daylight by banksters with full support and supervision of their supposed "servants", that even even have the gall to say "It's for their good" ?? Moreso the very victims still believe that all they need to have is few better servants?

    This only means there would be another false flag, and another, and another, till we learn that system is not our friend!
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    Hi Luke I am just seeing this post.................I hear the figure is more in the vicinity of $23 trillion.................and maybe even more than that. What say you?

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    Default Re: 2008 $2 Trillion False Flag Event at the U.S. Treasury

    Hey!
    It all depends how you count.
    $2 tril was what they get from treasury. But then usual "leverage the hell out of it" scheme took place, this cash did not stayed in account but went mainly in Wall Street speculation. With side bets , it's at least 9:1, but some guys go even 30:1 ... that would be $18T-$60T, and that is just one instance.

    Compare this figure to GLOBAL GDP of about $70 T .. this bets, derivatives and other thingies are estimated to be $1600T, so for every dollar in real economy, you have about 22 dollars in "casino", and there is no difference between casino chips and real cash.

    That is base for argument Gonzalo Lira made that when risk of "casino" going south would be high enough, all that funny money would be in short term transferred to buy land, food and commodities ie. as far as they could from devaluing buck and other "currencies", driving prices through the roof in the process.

    All elements needed are in places where they will do maximum damage. All you need is event triggering it.

    This is one of the guns banksters have pointed at everybody's head.

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    Those crooks just regard the middle class as an unfortunate byproduct of the industrial revolution and they intend to extinguish it again good and propper. Don't worry folks, we'll soon be back to a nice quiet feudal peasantry and all this bad freedom will be, not only forgotten, but erased.
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    Default Re: 2008 $2 Trillion False Flag Event at the U.S. Treasury

    But ladies and gentlemen, the U.S. dollar has no value. It is based solely on confidence. Whose confidence? No one anywhere has any confidence in the value of the U.S. dollar. Hence, it matters not if the Fed executed a false flag worth $6 Trillion-Trillion. It means nothing. Our money is fiat currency and has been worth nothing since the 1970s. So, let them play games with their Monopoly money, which has more value.

    I never thought that I would be able to laugh about 9/11 until just now when I read this quote from the opening post:


    The theft was planned. It started with a ‘false flag’ event in 2008. Much like the ‘false flag’ event of 2001 in which two planes somehow imploded three buildings, the false flag event of 2008 was a game changer.
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    Luke I agree with what you say. However, as Snowbird pointed out the entire question of "value" be it the US dollar, real estate, whatever, is VERY MUCH in question at this time. I mean no one knows what anything is "worth." Just a few years ago everyone presumed that things were "worth" whatever outrageous price tag was on the thing regardless of what it was. I remember a few short years ago when people were actually lining up around the corner to sign applications for one rental property and felt LUCKY it if was rented to them at an outrageous price. During that time a meat locker was rented out on Craig's List to some sucker for $700 a month I think it was to live in, a Tree House and a Dog House for similar prices!! While the banksters keep playing the same-old-same-old game, the entire playing field is changing under their feet. That is why they have become so desperate about consolidating power, control and their fake "economic system" - they sense time is NOT on their side and neither is history. The definition of insanity is repeating the same behaviors expecting a different result, that is why it is so important that we change. If we change (withdraw consent) they are simply out of business, up a crick w/o a paddle. No tyrant in history has ever endured for long without the consent of the people.....................we have been through this before, though perhaps according to our memory at least, maybe not on this world-wide scale. But we have been through this before. I just can't for the life figure out what I did in a previous lifetime that placed me here for surely I must have sinned, haha! Anyway, there are lessons to learn and action to take friends.

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    Default Re: 2008 $2 Trillion False Flag Event at the U.S. Treasury

    Quote Posted by Ahkenaten (here)
    ......... If we change (withdraw consent) they are simply out of business, up a crick w/o a paddle. No tyrant in history has ever endured for long without the consent of the people.....................
    I think you are denying something sad and true. The 'crooks' at the top are playing the numbers game. If your statement applied to a large majority of the world's population it would make real sense. It doesn't. You are one of only a tiny minority of the total clout the people have. This minority can only chatter among themselves. The minority might slowly grow as a result of that chatter but the dynamics of the full scale situation are way beyond anything we can do much about. Trying to wake up my neighbors was like taking a bone away from a dog. It's just not going to happen like that.

    In small 'communities' like this forum's members etc, it's too easy to think we can evangelise or something and "get the population woke up". There are dozens of reasons why the dynamics of something like that are not right. The most screaming obvious of those is the fact that while time is deadly short, haste is going to be counter productive, after all, most of us are still struggling our ways out of our own old ideological prisons. To raise the 'volume' of our ideologies would divide people further.

    Show me a real "master", immune to all those problems, and I might change my mind.
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    Default Re: 2008 $2 Trillion False Flag Event at the U.S. Treasury

    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    (...)In small 'communities' like this forum's members etc, it's too easy to think we can evangelise or something and "get the population woke up". There are dozens of reasons why the dynamics of something like that are not right. The most screaming obvious of those is the fact that while time is deadly short, haste is going to be counter productive, after all, most of us are still struggling our ways out of our own old ideological prisons. To raise the 'volume' of our ideologies would divide people further. (...)
    Yep. That Is THE problem, and elites do cash in on it, as frankly, they do hold us hostage.

    The only solution I come with is try to build parallel underground economic system of our own. Only this way you can figure things like real value out, among other things.

    People often gloss over real problems, because they see current scheme of things as only possible one. Only way to win them is to show them it can be done other way.

    This is by no means easy task, and means driving grey sector of the law most of the time. It means building system, from farms through workshops. I means creating communication and transport network. It means creating parallel wealth transfer system (like Hawala of old). It means creating our own wealth mediums too... for all practical reasons: building completely new civilization, underground, in secret.

    Mindbogglingly difficult task, but if we do not do it, we still be hostages to current system, and chitchat is maximum what we can do. Happiest barrack in labour camp, heh?

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