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[Hervé]

The strange fear of symbols

Mar13, 2014, by Jon Rappoport permalink.

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Groups use symbols.

But symbols have no inherent power.

None.

They have power only when people believe in them. In which case it’s the belief that is the power.

Just as important, symbols have no inherent meaning. They only have the meaning given to them.

So, for example, the famous eye and pyramid mean zero. Zilch. They only have meaning because Masons and other groups have assigned it.

There is no closed secret world of symbols that has magic in it.

There are no universally good symbols or bad symbols. A symbol is a word, term, sign, shape. It’s injected with meaning by a group. The group adopts a consensus about the symbol.

To a surprising degree, people think in terms of symbols. They operate as if they understand what they’re doing, but they don’t. They fear the power of certain symbols and attach themselves to the power of other “good” symbols. They’re hooked.

You could make a picture of a sun emanating three rays and call it Oobladee, and invent a whole mythology around it. You could claim it comes from Atlantis, or a secret society embedded in the old KGB, or an ancient Babylonian priesthood.

And then some people would react when they saw it. They would feel fear or anger or excitement.

It’s a con.

If you took this even further and created a whole set of symbols, dozens of them, and made up meanings for them, and worked with this game, you would eventually experience an interesting kind of liberation. You would see, to a greater extent, how arbitrary symbols are, how people trap themselves in “internal symbolic spaces.”

The whole point of frozen symbols is to enclose consciousness.

Let’s say you devised a picture of an eyeball hovering in a forest. A tear is dropping from the eye. The literal mind is looking for specific meaning. The literal mind wants an answer. It can’t find one.

The eyeball and the forest and the tear don’t add up. They provoke all sorts of associations, but no particular meaning, and the literal mind is frustrated.

So THEN you come along and assign a meaning. You say, “Well, this symbol was painted on masks in 834BC by the ancient Egyptian founders of a cult of pyramid builders. The eye and the tear stand for the tragedy caused by lack of faith in eternal life…”

And so forth and so on.

Now you’ve assigned specific meaning to the symbol. Now the literal mind breathes a sigh of relief. It has an answer. It can suck up that meaning and take it in and accept it. And now you can embellish the story and sell it to the literal mind. You can make that symbol into an object of fear and repulsion, if that’s the reaction you want to provoke in your audience, or you can make the symbol into an object of victory that stands for redemption.

You can twist and turn the symbol any way you want to.

The literal mind wants an answer to the mystery, a solution, and you provided it.

We’re talking about a very primitive form of art. When people operate at this level, buying symbols and their assigned meanings, it’s an indication they can’t appreciate or fathom more complex art.

They can’t read and fathom a novel or watch a stage play. That’s too much. There isn’t a clear one-to-one connecting pipeline between symbol and meaning, and so they’re confused. They’re frustrated.

I remember sitting in a movie theater watching a crime drama. The cops arrested the wrong man and framed him for a killing. A guy sitting next to me blew his top. He started telling his girl friend about how the cops were railroading this suspect and how bad the cops were, how the suspect was a victim of police brutality.

Well, yes. That was, in fact, the whole point of the movie. The movie was showing the audience how the police operated to create a false scenario and frame an innocent man. That’s what the movie was saying.

But this guy couldn’t get to that level. He thought the movie was actually on the cops’ side. He thought the movie was praising the arrest of the wrong man.

The literal mind at work.

In the same way, people accept the meanings that are assigned to symbols, and they react to those meanings in a reflex fashion.

In truth, symbols are open. They have no intrinsic meaning. People can inject any meaning they want to.

But when they’re trapped in a layer of symbolic thinking, they can’t see that. They’re determined to accept the already-assigned meaning and react to it.

Which is an invitation to propagandists.

Worse yet, it’s a fixation that artificially defines the limits of mind.

Symbols form a matrix-shell inside which minds live. Until they don’t.

In case you hadn’t noticed, lunatic school officials have been punishing students for symbols of guns. Pop tart chewed into the shape of a gun. Screen saver showing a picture of a gun. T-shirt with a message supporting the 2nd Amendment.

Then there are widening definitions of so-called hate speech. People want to ban the word “bossy.” They want to take any bland utterance and analyze it for possible “hate content.”

Among other things, this is puerile symbol-addiction.

A story about someone burning an American flag receives far more coverage and more reaction than a statement that the federal government violates the Constitution in a hundred ways.

Presidents are symbols. That is, the public reacts to the meanings broadly assigned to their images. The last time I looked, Americans in Kansas and Ohio weren’t sitting in the Oval Office having long conversations with Presidents.

Neither, I dare say, are Americans sitting down and talking with Satan. They’re reacting to meanings assigned to images of Satan painted by others.

Artists are in a unique position. They can make and unmake symbols at will. They can imbue symbols with meaning and then change the meanings or destroy the symbols. They don’t have to live under the dome of consensus symbols and their assigned meanings.

There are people who will argue that some symbols have “inherent meaning.” As if “the universe” sits around and writes down descriptions in a book, which is irrefutable.

Even if this were true, why do people have to accept those meanings?

Some symbols point to things that actually exist. Other symbols are fabricated with the intent of referring to fictions as if they were real. In both cases, the symbols are cooked and plumped up with meanings to impart a reaction.

I suppose God is the most widespread symbol on Earth. But instead of standing back and allowing the individual to decide what, if anything, it means to him, priest classes move in and organize religions to tell their stories, to embellish and codify the meaning of that symbol. And then to fight and kill to defend it.

Here is the symbol-maker’s proposition: “I’ll give you a symbol and tell you what it means and what it refers to. Then I want you to accept it, yes, but also to imbue it with feeling and awe and power. Give that power to the symbol. Make that investment. It’s your duty. Don’t vary or quibble.”

This is how humans are made into ciphers. This is mind control.

Jon Rappoport

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What Jon omitted to include in his essay is that symbols, for eons, have been used as triggers to induce mind-controlled individuals into actions; hence the apparent "power" of the symbol itself over individuals.

The same happens to other people who have imbued meaning and power to symbols during some obscure past lives buried deep in their unconscious and triggered into life, when running into it, giving said symbol an apparency of power...

Then, there are also the "tricksters" who slip into the material bearing the symbol and make it "speak"... and one is all set-up for wild meanings, inferences, explanations, justifications. etc...

Oh, well... hope one gets the "idea"?

[linksplatinum]

I get what you are saying about the symbols, and I assume that you mean symbols that were created by man. What about the symbols that aren't created by Earthly man, but were created by ET's of the Star Nations such as the 11 Universal Laws and the 11 Spiritual Laws. I will add the link below that shows these. I would imagine that these rules do not apply... Any thoughts?

Star Nation Symbols
http://www.suestudios.com/symbols/star.htm

These symbols are from an article written by Standing Elk (who's now Golden Eagle) of the Sioux Nation, that was published in the September/October 1996 issue (Vol 4, Number 5) of Contact Forum. These 22 symbols were actually given to him by beings from another star system. They told him that 12 of these symbols existed in a majority of the UFO ships around our planet today. Each ship carries these beautiful and deeply profound vibrational messages for the healing future of our people and planet. These Enlightened Messages from space are here to awaken your potentiality, and evoke enlightenment in our mind-body.

[Limor Wolf]

Hi Amzer Zo, very well said. A week ago I posted this on Referee's thread - 'The real meaning in the eye of the pyramid', but it very well may be relevent here as well-


"Very interesting, thank you, Referee. Without any desire to underestimate the importance of symbols and the energetics which is involved in black magic ceremonials and certain other artifacts adopted by the illuminati, 'The real meaning of..' as the title of this thread implies is not necessarily that which we are told it is according to interpretation of ancient scriptures or ancient traditions, it is the meaning of what we are ready to accept or to put in it ourself.

Symbols can be filled with energetics which has a purpose to make us feel this way or that way, it holds the vibration and radiate it to us as viewers whether we are aware of it or not. Geometric shapes can also affect us, even sharp corners such as in the pyramid, it all has an energetic transference via it's appearence or due to the literal interpretation it was given. Swastika is one of the most familiar examples of an energetic dual use of the same symbol, first in various ancient civilizations with the meaning of 'wealth, prosperity and auspiciousness', and then in modern time addopted by the Nazi party in Germany of the 1920, hence, related to concepts such as 'hatred, violence, death, and murder'.

What may be required for anyone who is negatively impacted by symbolics or shapes is to cancel it and put another meaning or simply 'take care of it' by the pure cleansing of the symbol from any significanse, spraying it with 'electric violet clouds' or attaching some higher vibration to it via the aid of the imagination, or simply not accepting whatever meaning it was given - and then it's good as new.

Saying that, it is interesting to learn how different cultures, different religions, or in this case the controllers, chose to energetically recharge the symbol and how this interpretation is accepted and affects us in the range of hundreds and even thousands of years.

I have been shown these symbols as an immediate demonstration of my thoughts on the Illuminati and their attempts to control us in three different occasions, the first during a trip to an ancient synagogue located in the north of Israel, the second on a wall of a Jerusalem street within a second of me reflecting on that, and the third in an ancient monastery in Jerusalem where I questioned the monk on his interpretaion to the meaning of the symbol of the eye and pyramid (pictures attached below), two of those times I felt a strong attempt to be delivered with an energetic transference, both times I didn't accept.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...500#post806500

[Hervé]

Hi Limor!

Yes: thought-forms/entities on the hunt for suckers to feed them.

Glad you were able to perceive and thwart it.

Thank you for relating your experience.

[Hervé]

Posted by linksplatinum (here)
[...]

... I assume that you mean symbols that were created by man. What about the symbols that aren't created by Earthly man, but were created by ET's...

[...]

What makes you think/believe that "Earth humans" have always resided on Earth since the beginning?

How about "incarnations" in other solar systems/galaxies/universes? ... and bringing their own programming down to Earth?

How many of those dudes you talk about have been trapped down here on Earth never to be seen again by their kin?

Then, it keeps going back to someone/group putting some specific energies into these shapes or believing these shapes carry such energy... doesn't it?

See, many a trickster have use that peculiar faculty of humans to heal themselves that's called "placebo effect." Conversely, hypochondriacs have that ability to get sick like dogs at the drop of a hat...

So, ultimately, who does the job?

[linksplatinum]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by linksplatinum (here)
[...]

... I assume that you mean symbols that were created by man. What about the symbols that aren't created by Earthly man, but were created by ET's...

[...]

What makes you think/believe that "Earth humans" have always resided on Earth since the beginning?

How about "incarnations" in other solar systems/galaxies/universes? ... and bringing their own programming down to Earth?

How many of those dudes you talk about have been trapped down here on Earth never to be seen again by their kin?

Then, it keeps going back to someone/group putting some specific energies into these shapes or believing these shapes carry such energy... doesn't it?

See, many a trickster have use that peculiar faculty of humans to heal themselves that's called "placebo effect." Conversely, hypochondriacs have that ability to get sick like dogs at the drop of a hat...

So, ultimately, who does the job?

My argument was that there is a difference in the way Universal beings use symbols compared to that of the people here on Earth in modern times just the plain ol' Jane's and Joe's use them, one being formal communication between Star Races and the other in the more negative aspect, power, fear, and control structure when the CABAL stepped into to play in this game on this planet...

Also, Terran man has always existed on this planet from the dawn of the creation of the Earth... It is in the Akashic records of this planet for Pete sakes you can ask anyone who can read them, we naturally evolved here with her growths, and spirit. Ever since the incarnation grid of the Archons had been put into place, way back when... every single being that has been born and living here naturally, or by any other means of getting here has been TRAPPED, and has been re-incarnating over, and over, and over again... You can find that in Andrew Bartzis' info. Now in another aspect, as far as meddling with our DNA, interbreeding, refugees from other worlds, incarnates, new colonizations, new DNA synthesis, etc, there is way to much mixing of the pot to say what comes from what, anymore DNA wise, than I could say which grain of sand came from which eroded rock, when it is all mixed like that. But, one thing I am DAMN certain of is, is that our soul has been the same each, and every time we go through the cycles of life and death, the two things that change with that is the wisdom that is gained increases gradually more, and more, and whether or not you choose to become a male, or a female the next time around... Now, back to symbols, there is a Universal telepathic symbology of over 3000 plus symbols that are used for communication between all races in the Cosmos, that each, and every race out there knows prolifically. Now as far as the"Illuminati" symbols are concerned, most of us know what that is all about, the "power, and fear-porn" factors.
Either way you look at it this article, it really puts a blanket on all symbolism involved, so there is no winning that argument with Jon Rappoport.
Anyways, this was an interesting article Amer Zo

[chocolate]

Symbols as means of expression are much more universal than words. Letters, as expressions of frequency come only after the pure symbols.

Symbols as images can be considered an universal language. This is a very wide and deep matter, and right now I am with some trouble focusing, so my letters get carried away, but it is an interesting idea for a thread. I will definitely come back tomorrow. Thank you Amzer Zo.

I have a full book on symbology (meaning behind objects) widely used by humans, and here I mean by the human mind, conscious and sub-conscious, as the interpreter.

The tarot can be an excellent example of using the language of symbols as well.

[Hervé]

Posted by linksplatinum (here)
[...]

My argument was that there is a difference in the way Universal beings use symbols compared to that of the people here on Earth in modern times just the plain ol' Jane's and Joe's use them, one being formal communication between Star Races [...]

I understand the argument... now, tell me, who puts meanings into these communications symbols between "Universal beings" gotten across with some kind of intention? Doesn't it boil down to the same thing as good old Joe and Jane... just more condensed? Like receiving a flash drive instead of a paper flyer... still needs to be received at receipt point as it was intended at emission point, doesn't it? So, isn't the process the same?

And according to Alex Collier, those communication symbols weren't that much universal since the Dracos manage to misunderstand some communication and got so p*ssed off that they blew up a few planets and exterminated a few species...

[Dawn]

Ok, you have inspired me to share yet another of my personal experiences which have shaped my understanding of the world.

I remember lifetimes where I have been tortured and eventually killed in full view of symbols. I have also had my life partners tortured and killed in front of me with symbols present. These lifetimes were hundreds and thousands of years ago. So, I suggest that what I remember has happened to many of us in the past... however these memories are now subconscious. Therefore symbols can cause us to have deep and subtle discomfort that we cannot identify because we cannot remember the initial cause. The fact that we cannot remember, makes our reaction even more frightening to us. It is as though some hidden enemy is attacking us... but we cannot see it.

In my understanding symbols have power because they have been deliberately imbued with meaning in our cultural memories.

And, of course, all language is a symbol. For example... take ANY word you use or see written here and really focus on it. Can you see that NO word is an actual thing? All words are symbols.... as such .... language traps us in this reality.

This is why it is very important to 'fast' from the world of words, computers, books, and right brain thinking. This is easy to do by simply walking amoung the flora and fauna that is present on this earth. Flora is especially important because they still live in the energy of trust and faith, eating sunlight as their only source of nutrition. Enya has such a beautiful song about this... it is one of my favorites. It took me 10 years to realize that her song is about the influence that the consciousness of plants can have upon us.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gFYv2uopwkY

[Hervé]

Posted by Dawn (here)
[...]

I remember lifetimes where I have been tortured and eventually killed in full view of symbols. I have also had my life partners tortured and killed in front of me with symbols present. These lifetimes were hundreds and thousands of years ago. So, I suggest that what I remember has happened to many of us in the past... however these memories are now subconscious. Therefore symbols can cause us to have deep and subtle discomfort that we cannot identify because we cannot remember the initial cause. The fact that we cannot remember, makes our reaction even more frightening to us. It is as though some hidden enemy is attacking us... but we cannot see it.

[...]

Dawn, thank you so much for your illustration of the "idea"!

What the illoonynati are relying on is the triggering of these now unconscious/subconscious symbols by plastering them all over the place along with the logos of their minions multinationals... nothing magical.

[truthseekerdan]

FYI, the Eye originally symbolizes the One Consciousness that sees and experiences everything. However, unfortunately has been hijacked, and became demonized by the logical minds...

[Hervé]

The "Eye" symbolizes whatever one puts into it...

Personally I quit buying into anybody else's vested interest's meaning of it.

[ghostrider]

as a sidebar , not to disagree with your main push , symbols are the language of spirit , and used across the cosmos ... a sort of short hand ... your right in that , the power comes from inside the persons thoughts not from a symbol ...

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
The "Eye" symbolizes whatever one puts into it...

Personally I quit buying into anybody else's vested interest's meaning of it.

Sorry to bother you, but I had the impression that you want to understand. Hence the title of the thread...

[Cara]

Hello Chocolate,

Would you mind posting details of the book you have on Symbology?

Thanks
Searcher

[loveoflife]

I understand symbols to be archetypes that can be used to control and manipulate the unwary and ignorant. They are like the proverbial carrot dangled before us to lead in the direction those who use them want us to go. They are like subliminal messages that affect us on an unconscious level.

The elite are obsessed with symbolism and ritual and use them frequently to control and manipulate by keeping us unaware of their meaning, they are also used as codes for members of secret societies to recognise each other.. The church has done much to demonise this knowledge and keep it out of the public domain. It is still considered the language of the devil.

The basis of the language of symbolism is astrology. The number 12 is found everywhere. An understanding of astrological symbolism is the basis of Tarot and Numerology and many forms of divination.

We are conditioned to think in a linear, rational, either/or manner. The language of symbols can teach us to look at the bigger picture both/and. If you take a symbol and give it a meaning, you may find another more meaningful meaning at a later time. Instead of rejecting the first meaning for the second, in the language of symbols both meanings are valid even if they contradict each other. Then another meaning may appear this will augment the previous definitions. Then as each new meaning augments the previous definitions understanding develops and grows.

I often find when i have found two definitions that contradict each other a paradox, i have found a truth. In duality opposites are two sides of the same coin. There is one energy with two polarities and many ways of looking at it.

As astrology teaches there are 12 ways to look at the human condition, with the 12 signs of the zodiac, these can be broken down again into 12 houses, and further into positions of planets and angular aspects. Wheels within wheels. There are many versions of the truth as there are people.

This may sound very complicated to the rational, left brain way of thinking. Though looking at the bigger picture using both hemispheres of the brain and joining the dots, we find a gestalt and an understanding that is grater than the sum of its parts.

As above so below, as within so without.

Chinese is a symbolic language with each character having many layers of meaning depending upon context.

I hope i have succeeded on outlining a basic introduction to a massive field of information.

Symbols help to delineate natural law and the mechanism of our natural world and its cycles.

In ancient times there were Alchemists known as the Magi, they combined the esoteric and exoteric sciences and used them for the upliftment of mankind. Today this knowledge is in the hands of the advertising moguls, who manipulate us to be slaves to wages and consumerism and follow blindly the dangled carrot of materialism with its inherent subliminal symbols.

The following video is one i came across recently and may help describe the point i am attempting to make.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xlwj1265BDY

For a much more detailed and lengthy looks at the use of symbolism for control the following is worth watching.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fZt8T2D_TGs

[Hervé]

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[chocolate]

Posted by Searcher (here)
Hello Chocolate,

Would you mind posting details of the book you have on Symbology?

Thanks
Searcher

Hello Searcher!
Will do that soon, for it is a paper book and I need to find it first.
Just as a side note, it isn't anything extraordinary of the level here everyone expects it to be, but more of a visual / meaningful guide, which I need while I work.

As soon as I find it will post the details.

[chocolate]

Amzer Zo, why the frusty?

Now, tell me, what do you see here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_test

Edited to add:

I was trying to 'read' the actual intention behind the thread, and if I am correct, I see it more as an attempt to outline an 'idea' and the reader/member agreeing with it by saying something like:

"Yes, I get it Amzer Zo! Thank you!",

or by posting examples of the fact that I do understand what you were trying to bring about,

rather than expanding on the world of symbols.

Point taken.

Than I would only say:
I have long ago unsubscribed from a certain level of use and understanding of a certain level of symbolism,
and I hope that will take away part of your feeling of frustration.

But to be honest, not many will stop by and participate simply because of the tone of the opening post.
I myself have come to 'see' the world a bit differently, and I appreciate your effort.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Pzd7ReqiQnE

Peace.