+ Reply to Thread
Page 29 of 118 FirstFirst 1 19 29 39 79 118 LastLast
Results 561 to 580 of 2360

Thread: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

  1. Link to Post #561
    Norway Avalon Member
    Join Date
    19th February 2011
    Age
    42
    Posts
    821
    Thanks
    16,435
    Thanked 4,441 times in 780 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    The IMF Won’t Save Ukraine



    Text (from youtube):

    Quote Are western Ukrainians to surrender the right to determine their economic policy and risk the loss of state-owned industries and assets in exchange for loans from the International Monetary Fund? In the first of three videos, Michael Hudson, Jeffrey Sommers, and James Carden explain why economic integration with the West won’t turn Ukraine into an economic success story.

    Contributors:
    Michael Hudson is a former balance-of-payments economist for Chase Manhattan Bank, Distinguished Research Professor of Economics at the University of Missouri, Kansas City, and an author of a major study of the IMF. Jeffrey Sommers is Associate Professor of Political Economy at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee and a visiting lecturer at the Stockholm School of Economics in Riga. James Carden is a former Advisor to the State Department on Russia and a regular contributor to The Nation. Moderator Alexander Reed Kelly is an assistant editor at Truthdig.

    This series was recorded in the Brooklyn office of Verso Books, and was produced by Endless Picnic.

  2. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Sophocles For This Post:

    Cidersomerset (3rd July 2015), Octavusprime (13th June 2015), Snookie (13th June 2015)

  3. Link to Post #562
    Norway Avalon Member
    Join Date
    19th February 2011
    Age
    42
    Posts
    821
    Thanks
    16,435
    Thanked 4,441 times in 780 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    News: Press Releases
    Jun 11 2015
    U.S. House Passes 3 Amendments By Rep. Conyers To Defense Spending Bill To Protect Civilians From Dangers Of Arming and Training Foreign Forces


    Quote WASHINGTON— Late yesterday evening, the U.S. House of Representatives considered H.R. 2685, the “Department of Defense Appropriations Act of 2015.” During consideration of the legislation, Congressman John Conyers, Jr. (D-Mich.) and Congressman Ted Yoho (R-Fla.) offered bipartisan amendments to block the training of the Ukrainian neo-Nazi paramilitary militia “Azov Battalion,” and to prevent the transfer of shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles—otherwise known as Man-Portable Air-Defense Systems (MANPADS)—to Iraq or Ukraine.

    “If there’s one simple lesson we can take away from US involvement in conflicts overseas, it’s this: Beware of unintended consequences. As was made vividly clear with U.S. involvement in Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion decades ago, overzealous military assistance or the hyper-weaponization of conflicts can have destabilizing consequences and ultimately undercut our own national interests,” said Rep. John Conyers. “I am grateful that the House of Representatives unanimously passed my amendments last night to ensure that our military does not train members of the repulsive neo-Nazi Azov Battalion, along with my measures to keep the dangerous and easily trafficked MANPADs out of these unstable regions.”

    Ukraine’s Azov Battalion is a 1,000-man volunteer militia of the Ukrainian National Guard that Foreign Policy Magazine has characterized as “openly neo-Nazi,” and “fascist.” Ukraine’s Interior Minister Arsen Avakov, who oversees Ukraine’s armed militias, announced that Azov troops would be among the first units to be trained by the Pentagon in Operation Fearless Guardian, prompting significant international concern.

    Since their initial use on a battlefield in 1978, MANPAD attacks have resulted in nearly 1,000 civilian deaths.

    Added Conyers, “Both U.S. and Israeli officials have feared that these weapons could be used by terrorists to bring down commercial jets. As the boundaries are increasingly blurred between insurgents fighting the Syrian government and those fighting the Iraqi government, providing additional arms could further destabilize the Middle East. The same can be said for Ukraine, where an anti-aircraft missile allegedly downed Flight MH17 last summer, killing 298 civilians. The possibility that MANPADS—or any weapon—could fall into the hands of radical groups in Iraq, Syria, or Ukraine, would unquestionably increase the already-devastating human toll in both of these volatile regions.”

    According to Reuters, The Azov battalion originated from a paramilitary national socialist group called "Patriot of Ukraine", which propagated slogans of white supremacy, racial purity, the need for authoritarian power and a centralized national economy. Azov’s controversial founder, Andriy Biletsky, organized the neo-Nazi group the Social-National Assembly (SNA) in 2008.

    “The Azov men use the neo-Nazi Wolfsangel (Wolf’s Hook) symbol on their banner and members of the battalion are openly white supremacists, or anti-Semites,” wrote The Telegraph. Since Azov was enrolled as a regiment of Ukraine's National Guard in September and started receiving increased supplies of heavy arms, however, Biletsky has toned down his rhetoric, Reuters reported. According to the Washington Post, battalion members “could potentially strike pro-Russian targets on their own — or even turn on the [Ukrainian] government” if it pursues a diplomatic resolution to the conflict.

  4. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Sophocles For This Post:

    Cidersomerset (3rd July 2015), Snookie (13th June 2015)

  5. Link to Post #563
    Norway Avalon Member
    Join Date
    19th February 2011
    Age
    42
    Posts
    821
    Thanks
    16,435
    Thanked 4,441 times in 780 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    An American Oligarch‘s Dirty Tale of Corruption

    12.06.2015 Author: F. William Engdahl
    New Eastern Outlook


    Rarely does the world get a true look inside the corrupt world of Western oligarchs and the brazen manipulations they use to enhance their fortunes at the expense of the public good. The following comes from correspondence of the Hungarian-born billionaire, now naturalized American speculator, George Soros. The hacker group CyberBerkut has published online letters allegedly written by Soros that reveal him not only as puppet master of the US-backed Ukraine regime. They also reveal his machinations with the US Government and the officials of the European Union in a scheme where, if he succeeds, he could win billions in the plunder of Ukraine assets. All, of course, would be at the expense of Ukrainian citizens and of EU taxpayers.

    What the three hacked documents reveal is a degree of behind-the-scene manipulation of the most minute details of the Kiev regime by the New York billionaire.

    In the longest memo, dated March 15, 2015 and marked “Confidential” Soros outlines a detailed map of actions for the Ukraine regime. Titled, “A short and medium term comprehensive strategy for the new Ukraine,” the memo from Soros calls for steps to “restore the fighting capacity of Ukraine without violating the Minsk agreement.” To do the restoring, Soros blithely notes that “General Wesley Clark, Polish General Skrzypczak and a few specialists under the auspices of the Atlantic Council [emphasis added—f.w.e.] will advise President Poroshenko how to restore the fighting capacity of Ukraine without violating the Minsk agreement.”

    Soros also calls for supplying lethal arms to Ukraine and secretly training Ukrainian army personnel in Romania to avoid direct NATO presence in Ukraine. The Atlantic Council is a leading Washington pro-NATO think tank.

    Notably, Wesley Clark is also a business associate of Soros in BNK Petroleum which does business in Poland.

    Clark, some might recall, was the mentally-unstable NATO General in charge of the 1999 bombing of Serbia who ordered NATO soldiers to fire on Russian soldiers guarding the Pristina International Airport. The Russians were there as a part of an agreed joint NATO–Russia peacekeeping operation supposed to police Kosovo. The British Commander, General Mike Jackson refused Clark, retorting, “I’m not going to start the Third World War for you.” Now Clark apparently decided to come out of retirement for the chance to go at Russia directly.

    Naked asset grab

    In his March 2015 memo Soros further writes that Ukrainian President Poroshenko’s “first priority must be to regain control of financial markets,” which he assures Poroshenko that Soros would be ready to assist in: “I am ready to call Jack Lew of the US Treasury to sound him out about the swap agreement.”

    He also calls on the EU to give Ukraine an annual aid sum of €11 billion via a special EU borrowing facility. Soros proposes in effect using the EU’s “AAA” top credit rating to provide a risk insurance for investment into Ukraine.

    Whose risk would the EU insure?

    Soros details, “I am prepared to invest up to €1 billion in Ukrainian businesses. This is likely to attract the interest of the investment community. As stated above, Ukraine must become an attractive investment destination.” Not to leave any doubt, Soros continues, “The investments will be for-profit but I will pledge to contribute the profits to my foundations. This should allay suspicions that I am advocating policies in search of personal gain. “

    For anyone familiar with the history of the Soros Open Society Foundations in Eastern Europe and around the world since the late 1980’s, will know that his supposedly philanthropic “democracy-building” projects in Poland, Russia, or Ukraine in the 1990’s allowed Soros the businessman to literally plunder the former communist countries using Harvard University’s “shock therapy” messiah, and Soros associate, Jeffrey Sachs, to convince the post-Soviet governments to privatize and open to a “free market” at once, rather than gradually.

    The example of Soros in Liberia is instructive for understanding the seemingly seamless interplay between Soros the shrewd businessman and Soros the philanthropist. In West Africa George Soros backed a former Open Society employee of his, Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, giving her international publicity and through his influence, even arranging a Nobel Peace Prize for her in 2011, insuring her election as president. Before her presidency she had been well-indoctrinated into the Western free market game, studying economics at Harvard and working for the US-controlled World Bank in Washington and the Rockefeller Citibank in Nairobi. Before becoming Liberia’s President, she worked for Soros directly as chair of his Open Society Initiative for West Africa (OSIWA).

    Once in office, President Sirleaf opened the doors for Soros to take over major Liberian gold and base metals assets along with his partner, Nathaniel Rothschild. One of her first acts as President was to also invite the Pentagon’s new Africa Command, AFRICOM, into Liberia whose purpose as a Liberian investigation revealed, was to “protect George Soros and Rothschild mining operations in West Africa rather than champion stability and human rights.”

    Naftogaz the target

    The Soros memo makes clear he has his eyes on the Ukrainian state gas and energy monopoly, Naftogaz. He writes, “The centerpiece of economic reforms will be the reorganization of Naftogaz and the introduction of market pricing for all forms of energy, replacing hidden subsidies…”

    In an earlier letter Soros wrote in December 2014 to both President Poroshenko and Prime Minister Yatsenyuk, Soros openly called for his Shock Therapy: “I want to appeal to you to unite behind the reformers in your government and give your wholehearted support to a radical, ‘big bang’ type of approach. That is to say, administrative controls would be removed and the economy would move to market prices rapidly rather than gradually…Naftogaz needs to be reorganized with a big bang replacing the hidden subsidies…”

    Splitting Naftogaz into separate companies could allow Soros to take control of one of the new branches and essentially privatize its profits. He already suggested that he indirectly brought in US consulting company, McKinsey, to advise Naftogaz on the privatization “big bang.”

    The Puppet-Master?

    The totality of what is revealed in the three hacked documents show that Soros is effectively the puppet-master pulling most of the strings in Kiev. Soros Foundation’s Ukraine branch, International Renaissance Foundation (IRF) has been involved in Ukraine since 1989. His IRF doled out more than $100 million to Ukrainian NGOs two years before the fall of the Soviet Union, creating the preconditions for Ukraine’s independence from Russia in 1991. Soros also admitted to financing the 2013-2014 Maidan Square protests that brought the current government into power.

    Soros’ foundations were also deeply involved in the 2004 Orange Revolution that brought the corrupt but pro-NATO Viktor Yushchenko into power with his American wife who had been in the US State Department. In 2004 just weeks after Soros’ International Renaissance Foundation had succeeded in getting Viktor Yushchenko as President of Ukraine, Michael McFaul wrote an OpEd for the Washington Post. McFaul, a specialist in organizing color revolutions, who later became US Ambassador to Russia, revealed:

    Did Americans meddle in the internal affairs of Ukraine? Yes. The American agents of influence would prefer different language to describe their activities — democratic assistance, democracy promotion, civil society support, etc. — but their work, however labeled, seeks to influence political change in Ukraine. The U.S. Agency for International Development, the National Endowment for Democracy and a few other foundations sponsored certain U.S. organizations, including Freedom House, the International Republican Institute, the National Democratic Institute, the Solidarity Center, the Eurasia Foundation, Internews and several others to provide small grants and technical assistance to Ukrainian civil society. The European Union, individual European countries and the Soros-funded International Renaissance Foundation did the same.

    Soros shapes ‘New Ukraine’

    Today the CyberBerkut hacked papers show that Soros’ IRF money is behind creation of a National Reform Council, a body organized by presidential decree from Poroshenko which allows the Ukrainian president to push bills through Ukraine’s legislature. Soros writes, “The framework for bringing the various branches of government together has also emerged. The National Reform Council (NRC) brings together the presidential administration, the cabinet of ministers, the Rada and its committees and civil society. The International Renaissance Foundation which is the Ukrainian branch of the Soros Foundations was the sole financial supporter of the NRC until now…”

    Soros’ NRC in effect is the vehicle to allow the President to override parliamentary debate to push through “reforms,” with the declared first priority being privatization of Naftogaz and raising gas prices drastically to Ukrainian industry and households, something the bankrupt country can hardly afford.

    In his letter to Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk, Soros hints that he played a key role in selection of three key non-Ukrainian ministers—Natalia Jaresko, an American ex- State Department official as Finance Minister; Aivras Abromavicius of Lithuania as Economics Minister, and a health minister from Georgia. Soros in his December 2014 letter, referring to his proposal for a “big bank” privatization of Naftogaz and price rise, states, “You are fortunate to have appointed three ‘new Ukrainian’ ministers and several natives (sic) who are committed to this approach.”

    Elsewhere Soros speaks about de facto creating the impression within the EU that the current government of Yatsenyuk is finally cleaning out the notorious corruption that has dominated every Kiev regime since 1991. Creating that temporary reform illusion, he remarks, will convince the EU to cough up the €11 billion annual investment insurance fund. His March 2015 paper says that, “It is essential for the government to produce a visible demonstration (sic) during the next three months in order to change the widely prevailing image of Ukraine as an utterly corrupt country.” That he states will open the EU to make the €11 billion insurance guarantee investment fund.

    While saying that it is important to show Ukraine as a country that is not corrupt, Soros reveals he has little concern when transparency and proper procedures block his agenda. Talking about his proposals to reform Ukraine’s constitution to enable privatizations and other Soros-friendly moves, he complains, “The process has been slowed down by the insistence of the newly elected Rada on proper procedures and total transparency.”

    Soros suggests that he intends to create this “visible demonstration” through his initiatives, such as using the Soros-funded National Reform Council, a body organized by presidential decree which allows the Ukrainian president to push bills through Ukraine’s legislature.

    George Soros is also using his new European Council on Foreign Relations think-tank to lobby his Ukraine strategy, with his council members such as Alexander Graf Lambsdorff or Joschka Fischer or Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, not to mention former ECB head, Jean-Claude Trichet no doubt laying a subtle role.

    George Soros, now 84, was born in Hungary as a Jew, George Sorosz. Soros once boasted in a TV interview that he posed during the war as a gentile with forged papers, assisting the Horthy government to seize property of other Hungarian Jews who were being shipped to the Nazi death camps. Soros told the TV moderator, “There was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was–well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in markets–that if I weren’t there–of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would.”

    This is the same morality apparently behind Soros’ activities in Ukraine today. It seems again to matter not to him that the Ukrainian government he helped bring to power in February 2014 US coup d’etat is riddled with explicit anti-semites and self-proclaimed neo-Nazis from the Svoboda Party and Pravy Sektor. George Soros is clearly a devotee of “public-private-partnership.” Only here the public gets fleeced to enrich private investors like Mr. Soros and friends. Cynically, Soros signs his Ukraine strategy memo, “George Soros–A self-appointed advocate of the new Ukraine, March 12, 2015.”

    F. William Engdahl is strategic risk consultant and lecturer, he holds a degree in politics from Princeton University and is a best-selling author on oil and geopolitics, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook”.

    Link

    (I just remembered; this post reiterates Herve`s post #556)
    Last edited by Sophocles; 18th June 2015 at 20:23.

  6. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Sophocles For This Post:

    animovado (19th June 2015), JRS (24th June 2015), meeradas (7th August 2015), seko (19th June 2015)

  7. Link to Post #564
    Norway Avalon Member
    Join Date
    19th February 2011
    Age
    42
    Posts
    821
    Thanks
    16,435
    Thanked 4,441 times in 780 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    Something critical might be happening in the Ukraine

    The Saker, June 22, 2015

    Quote Two small newsitems have not received much attention recently, and yet they might be the signs of something big happening:

    Poroshenko has fired the notorious Head of the equally notorious Security Service of Ukraine or SBU: Valentin Nalivaichenko.

    Sergei Ivanov, the powerful Deputy Prime Minister of Russia has stated that the US and Russia have created a bilateral communications channel on the Ukraine run by Victoria Nuland, Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, for the USA and Grigorii Karasin, the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, for Russia. The official reason for that was “not to complicate the already delicate “Normandy-format”.

    So on one hand, we have Kerry and Nuland who came to Russia and who, by all accounts, got nothing of what the asked for but who are now getting a “communications channel” while at the same time, the 100% USA-controlled Nalivaichenko, who is rumored to be an actual CIA agent recruited many years ago, is booted out by Poroshenko. Rumor also has it that Arsen Avakov, the Minister of Internal Affairs will be next to be kicked out.

    There might be no connection here, but my guess is that there is.

    The reason why Nalivaichenko was fired is not so much because of the various corruptions scandals he – and all other junta members – were involved in as much as it is Poroshenko’s attempt to place “his” men in all key (power) positions. That, in turn, shows that his regime is getting weaker, not stronger – hence the need to strengthen and consolidate.

    I also believe that the Americans are fully aware of this process and this is why they now want a direct channel of communication with Russia: because they fully realize that the only two powers that matter in reality are the USA and Russia, especially now that events are getting out of control in Kiev.

    One of the best Ukraine specialists out there, Ishchenko, is now saying that the US have concluded that the Ukraine is a total mess and that they are now trying to get out at the least possible cost. I tend to agree with this explanation, though I am not as confident as Ishchenko that we will see this political pullout play out this year already.

    Because make no mistake: the 300 million dollars allocated by Congress to arm the Ukraine is a joke. A drop of water into a desert. It will change *nothing*. Most of it will be stolen and the rest will be wasted.

    The expected Ukronazi attack on Novorussia has not happened either and while the rhetoric in Kiev is more bellicose than ever, and while the Ukronazi forces along the line of contact are constantly shelling Novorussia, no real, full scale, attack has happened. Could it be that the Ukronazis are truly afraid of the consequences of an always possible Novorussian counter-attack?

    It is also becoming increasingly obvious that the US has failed to isolate Russia and that the Russia economy is doing way better than anybody, including the Kremlin, had expected.

    So if the Ukronazi Ukraine cannot be used to mount a military attack on Novorussia with the goal of force Russia to intervene, and if the civil war in the Ukraine has failed to produce the kind of isolation and sanctions against Russia which Washington wanted – then what is the use of the Ukraine to Uncle Sam?

    Yes, sure, there is the port of Odessa, and some industrial and natural resources which western corporation will be able to acquire for a fraction of its value, but these benefits pale in comparison with the immense costs of somehow tackling the huge economic, social and political problems of the Ukraine.

    It will come to that sooner or later anyway. The USA made an unholy mess of Afghanistan, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Libya, and they always ended up getting out, at least politically. Why should it be different for the Ukraine?

    I submit that if the US analysts came to the conclusion that there is not hope of forcing Russia to sent her forces into the Donbass then the Ukraine becomes useless. The chances of Russia doing so appear to be very close to zero right now. True, there is the very dangerous situation in Transnistria which might, really, force Russia to intervene, but for some reason the USA does not seem to be eager to trigger an immediate crisis. Could it be that the USA is holding Transnistria as a bargaining chip against Russia in a “you don’t make things too bad for us or else…” kind of strategy? Maybe. I honestly don’t know.

    It will be interesting to see of Avakov get’s booted out next and how the various Ukronazi death-squads will react to the firing of their patrons in Kiev.

    The Saker

  8. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Sophocles For This Post:

    animovado (22nd June 2015), avid (21st July 2015), Cidersomerset (3rd July 2015), Hervé (23rd June 2015), JRS (24th June 2015)

  9. Link to Post #565
    Norway Avalon Member
    Join Date
    19th February 2011
    Age
    42
    Posts
    821
    Thanks
    16,435
    Thanked 4,441 times in 780 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    Poroshenko admits overthrow of Yanukovych was a coup

    Eric Zuesse
    Washington's Blog
    Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:51 UTC


    Quote Ukraine's President Petro Poroshenko requests the supreme court of Ukraine to declare that his predecessor, Viktor Yanukovych, was overthrown by an illegal operation; in other words, that the post-Yanukovych government, including Poroshenko's own Presidency, came into power from a coup, not from something democratic, not from any authentic constitutional process at all.

    In a remarkable document, which is not posted at the English version of the website of the Constitutional Court of Ukraine, but which is widely reported outside the United States, including Russia, Poroshenko, in Ukrainian (not in English), has petitioned the Constitutional Court of Ukraine (as it is being widely quoted in English):

    Quote "I ask the court to acknowledge that the law 'on the removal of the presidential title from Viktor Yanukovych' as unconstitutional."
    Full article

    ----------------------------------------------
    ----------------------------------------------


    Russian Security Council secretary says US engineered state coup in Ukraine for $5 bln

    Quote He said it was absolutely clear that behind the "destabilization project in Ukraine was an attempt to create an instrument to weaken Russia dramatically"

    MOSCOW, June 22. /TASS/. The United States was behind the state coup in Ukraine having spent five billion U.S. dollars for these purposes, Russian Security Council secretary Nikolai Patrushev said in an interview with the Kommersant newspaper published on Monday.

    "The change of power [in Ukraine] prompted those events that took place there. [U.S. Secretary of State John] Kerry has an assistant - [Victoria] Nuland, who said the United States spent five billion U.S. dollars to arrange those events," he said.

    He said it was absolutely clear that behind the "destabilization project in Ukraine was an attempt to create an instrument to weaken Russia dramatically." "Concurrently, they are seeking to solve the task of keeping the European Union countries on a short leash by imposing anti-Russian sanctions and approaches on them, ignoring their national interests," Patrushev said.
    Full article

  10. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Sophocles For This Post:

    animovado (24th June 2015), avid (21st July 2015), Cidersomerset (3rd July 2015), Hervé (23rd June 2015), JRS (24th June 2015)

  11. Link to Post #566
    Avalon Member Akasha's Avatar
    Join Date
    19th September 2012
    Location
    Hungary
    Age
    52
    Posts
    1,610
    Thanks
    5,967
    Thanked 5,163 times in 1,390 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    Quote So ISIS is threatening to attack Hamas.
    ISIS attacks all of Israel's enemies. they ought to be renamed the Covert Mercenaries of Zion - CMZ. That's ISIS - CMZ - covert mercenaries for zionists.
    They attack Syria in a huge proxy war which was written out verbatim in Israel policy papers, The Clean Break strategy, which said first to take out Iraq and then to go to Damascus and that they would use the proxy forces to do it, and that's exactly what's happening.
    ISIS never attacks Israel, they get supported by the Israeli air force and they're treated in Israeli hospitals - they're (not so) covert mercenaries for the zionists.....

    Ryan Dawson
    the greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated --- Gandhi

  12. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Akasha For This Post:

    avid (21st July 2015), Cidersomerset (3rd July 2015), Snoweagle (12th September 2015), Sophocles (21st July 2015)

  13. Link to Post #567
    Great Britain Avalon Member Baby Steps's Avatar
    Join Date
    29th August 2014
    Age
    56
    Posts
    1,634
    Thanks
    16,930
    Thanked 8,663 times in 1,521 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    So if you are a warmongering psychopath throwing your weight around the place and intimidating everybody, the meek ones will look on and think that the best chance for peace is that this psychopath is so scary and mighty that nobody would contemplate picking a fight! So peace endures...

    Then- oh no! It emerges that one of his key weapons is a total lemon!
    I BET THAT WILL BE GOOD FOR STABILITY

    http://rt.com/usa/pilots-air-f-22-raptor-615/

    I would suggest that when your techno-military complex starts delivering lemons, this is a sign of terrible crony capitalist corruption.

    Last edited by Baby Steps; 3rd July 2015 at 14:16.

  14. The Following User Says Thank You to Baby Steps For This Post:

    Cidersomerset (3rd July 2015)

  15. Link to Post #568
    UK Avalon Member Cidersomerset's Avatar
    Join Date
    16th May 2011
    Location
    Bridgwater somerset UK
    Age
    63
    Posts
    22,333
    Thanks
    33,460
    Thanked 79,637 times in 18,693 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    I was listening to another RT U'tube I posted on the Snowden, then this
    came up after as I was pottering in the Kitchen. It is a very good discussion
    on the Ukraine / Russia /US situation and the worry of returning to the
    cold war by default.............
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    CrossTalk: Cold War Redux (ft. Chris Hedges)



    Published on 1 Jul 2015


    Over the past year at CrossTalk we have asked guests many times whether
    we face the specter of a new Cold War. Today it is all too obvious there is a
    new Cold War. What we need to ask now are the terms and conditions of
    this conflict and the possible outcomes.

    CrossTalking with David Swanson, Vladimir Golstein, and Chris Hedges.

    RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

  16. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Cidersomerset For This Post:

    avid (21st July 2015), Baby Steps (3rd July 2015), Roberta (8th August 2015), Sophocles (21st July 2015)

  17. Link to Post #569
    Great Britain Avalon Member Baby Steps's Avatar
    Join Date
    29th August 2014
    Age
    56
    Posts
    1,634
    Thanks
    16,930
    Thanked 8,663 times in 1,521 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    People need to understand that the Russians are absolutely terrified. And that is not good for the world. If I was a Russian strategist the following would terrify me:

    - How the USA and European public seem to blindly buy into the fake narrative of 'Russian Aggression in Ukraine'
    - How Jeb Bush can get away with describing the Russian leadership as corrupt with no sense of irony
    -How the public are accepting the huge NATO build-up on Russia's borders without grasping the dangers
    - How easy it is to trigger conflict when you have such a stand-off, the instigator can be anyone-or a false flag
    -Proven fact that USA generals have tried to start hostilities with Russia in Yugoslavia in 1999(see link below)
    - The Germans do not seem to care or realise the USA is fomenting a hot war on their own doorstep, they have lost their basic self preservation instinct.
    - How the USA public buy into 'American Exceptionalism', and huge unnecessary military spending (half of which is siphoned off into black projects with no oversight or accountability)
    -How the British public are ignoring murky rumours that new missiles are/are not being secretly stationed in the East of the UK
    -How Russian military capability is quite shrunken, despite more resources recently.
    - How the USA appears not to be controlled by its own Government (which is totally corrupt anyway)

    Proof of USA aggression:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11753050



    Singer James Blunt 'prevented World War III'
    • 14 November 2010

    • From the sectionUK Politics
    Singer James Blunt has told the BBC how he refused an order to attack Russian troops when he was a British soldier in Kosovo. Blunt said he was willing to risk a court martial by rejecting the order from a US General.
    But he was backed by British Gen Sir Mike Jackson, who said: "I'm not going to have my soldiers be responsible for starting World War III."
    Blunt was ordered to seize an airfield, but the Russians had got there first.
    In an interview with BBC Radio 5 live, broadcast on Sunday, he said: "I was given the direct command to overpower the 200 or so Russians who were there.
    "I was the lead officer with my troop of men behind us...
    James Blunt had worldwide hits after leaving the Army
    "The soldiers directly behind me were from the Parachute Regiment, so they're obviously game for the fight.
    "The direct command [that] came in from Gen Wesley Clark was to overpower them. Various words were used that seemed unusual to us. Words such as 'destroy' came down the radio."
    'Mad situation'
    The confusion surrounding the taking of Pristina airfield in 1999 has been written about in political memoirs, and was widely reported at the time.
    But this is the first time Blunt has given an account of his role in the incident.
    Blunt, who was at the head of a column of 30,000 Nato troops with his unit, told Pienaar's Politics it was a "mad situation".
    That sense of moral judgement is drilled into us as soldiers in the British armyJames Blunt
    He said he had been "party to the conversation" between senior officers in which Gen Clark had ordered the attack.
    "We had 200 Russians lined up pointing their weapons at us aggressively, which was... and you know we'd been told to reach the airfield and take a hold of it.
    "And if we had a foothold there then it would make life much easier for the Nato forces in Pristina. So there was a political reason to take hold of this.
    "And the practical consequences of that political reason would be then aggression against the Russians."
    Court martial
    Asked if following the order would have risked starting World War III, Blunt, who was a 25-year-old cavalry officer at the time, replied: "Absolutely. And that's why we were querying our instruction from an American general.
    "Fortunately, up on the radio came Gen Mike Jackson, whose exact words at the time were, 'I'm not going to have my soldiers be responsible for starting World War III', and told us why don't we sugar off down the road, you know, encircle the airfield instead.
    "And after a couple of days the Russians there said: 'Hang on we have no food and no water. Can we share the airfield with you?'."
    If Gen Jackson had not blocked the order from Gen Clark, who as Nato Supreme Commander Europe was his superior officer, Blunt said he would still have declined to follow it, even at the risk of a court martial.
    He said: "There are things that you do along the way that you know are right, and those that you absolutely feel are wrong, that I think it's morally important to stand up against, and that sense of moral judgement is drilled into us as soldiers in the British army."
    Blunt left the Army in 2002 to pursue a career in music, later scoring a worldwide hit with You're Beautiful.
    Last edited by Baby Steps; 3rd July 2015 at 15:56.

  18. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Baby Steps For This Post:

    avid (21st July 2015), Cidersomerset (6th August 2015), Sophocles (21st July 2015)

  19. Link to Post #570
    Norway Avalon Member
    Join Date
    19th February 2011
    Age
    42
    Posts
    821
    Thanks
    16,435
    Thanked 4,441 times in 780 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    Special Report: The Truth about Srebrenica 20 years later

    July 13, 2015 The Saker

    This past week the world was reminded that it has been 20 years since the events following the Bosnian Serb Army’s entry into Srebrenica and today I am posting a special report about this event which I personally consider of absolutely crucial importance in world history not only because of the large number of people who died in this event, but also because it served as the pretext for the first completely illegal war of aggression by the US/NATO which attacked the Bosnian Serbs in violation of the UN Charter. All the subsequence wars of aggression of the AngloZionist Empire (Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, etc.) have their prototype in the war against the Bosnian-Serbs.

    I can personally attest that doubts about what really happened (or not) in Srebrenica were voiced in, shall we say, “well informed circles” within days of the Bosnian-Serb conquest of the city. I cannot name these circles, but let’s just that that I am talking about people with direct access to classified information coming out of Bosnia. One thing was immediately established: that a large number of armed Bosnian-Muslim men had attempted a breakthrough from Srebrenica to Tuzla and that 1) many had been killed in *combat* with Bosnian-Serbs and many actually made it to Tuzla.

    [Sidebar: Srebrenica had been declared a “safe area” by the UN. That meant two main things: first, the Bosnian-Muslims had to totally demilitarize the entire town while the Bosnian-Serbs had to stop attacking it, nevermind entering it. These UN “safe heavens” were intended for civilians only. In reality, however, the Bosnian-Muslims kept and entire Mountain Division in Srebrenica and they continued to reinforce it both by land and by air. To make things even worse, the Bosnian-Muslims constantly used Srebrenica as a safe base to attack the Bosnian-Serb positions around the town. At the beginning of the war, the Bosnian-Muslims had already burned down all the Bosnian-Serb villages around Srebrenica and massacred most of the civilians living they found in them (we are talking about several thousand civilians). The local Bosnian-Serbs had promised that one day they would take revenge for these massacres and some of them, indeed, do that when the Bosnian-Serbs entered Srebrenica. Needless to say, none of that was ever reported by the western corporate Ziomedia].

    The other fact which all “well informed” folks knew is that there had been several “false flag” massacres in Sarajevo, in particular the so-called “Markale market massacres” (1994 and 1995) both of which were not attributable to the Bosnian-Serbs, something which UNPRFOR knew but could not say publicly.

    While I am personally convinced that the official narrative about Srebrenica (a deliberate mass murder or even genocide organized by the Bosnian-Serbs) is false, I have also come to believe that this was not a “simple” false flag attack either. Srebrenica was a simultaneous combination of the following:

    1. Combat operations between regular Bosnian-Serb forces and Bosnian-Muslim forces attempting to break out of Srebrenica.
    2. The “spontaneous” execution of a number of civilians and POWs by Bosnian-Serbs seeking revenge.
    3. The deliberate execution of a number of civilians and POWs ordered not by Bosnian-Serbs but by some Yugoslav (Federal) officials.
    4. A deliberate PSYOP by the USA to grossly inflate the number of victims and blame the Bosnian-Serbs.

    I have to say here that I only learned about point #3 very recently from a well-informed Serbian contact whom I fully trust. While I cannot corroborate his claim, it does ‘fit’ perfectly with what I know. This contact is currently reluctant to go into details or name names, but I am confident that the truth about this will come out fairly soon.

    What is no less important about what Srebrenica was is to also spell out what it was not.

    1. It was not a genocide even by the most inclusive definition of this word. First, the Bosnian-Serbs and Bosnian-Muslims are exactly the same ethnic group and what differentiates them is their religion. So any talk of “ethnic cleansing” is nonsensical in the Bosnian context.
    2. It is quite obvious that neither Radovan Karadzic nor Ratko Mladic ever gave any orders to commit massacres. Had they wanted to issue such orders, they would have kept away from the scene and not done what Mladic did that day: bring in several bus loads of reporters and then go on TV to publicly promise the Bosnian-Muslim civilians that he personally guaranteed their safety. It is absolutely clear to me that Mladic and the Bosnian-Serbs walked into a trap carefully laid by the USA.
    3. However, there is now evidence that orders did come from Belgrade to “deliver” a certain amount of innocent victims which, in turn, would provide the US/NATO with a pretext to intervene. Yes, you read that right. I am claiming that certain officials in Belgrade were working hand-in-hand with the US.

    [Sidebar: To those who might doubt that (at least some elements in) Belgrade and Washington were covertly working together I would remind that the Yugoslav Federal authorities (Milosevic) did join the AngloZionist blockade against the Bosnian-Serbs and that when the US/NATO attacked the Bosnian-Serbs Miloseciv ordered the Yugoslav forces to move back and betray the Bosnian-Serbs who had trusted them {Note: I was told by a reader that while the betrayal did take place–in the form of a blockade–but there were no Yugoslav units holding the line in 1995. They had been withdrawn in 1992, when they suffered heavy casualties withdrawing from Sarajevo. This might be true – it has been 20 years and I write from memory.} Likewise, Milosevic also betrayed the Serbs in Kosovo when he ordered his military to retreat even though it had survived the NATO bombing almost completely unscathed]

    The main problem in establishing the truth about what happened in Srebrenica is the literally everybody, including the USA, NATO, European countries, and even Russia under Eltsin and Yugoslavia under Milosevic, had a huge interest in sticking by the official story. All these forces wanted to end the war and the stubborn Bosnian-Serbs were not willing to surrender. So everybody needed a pretext for the US/NATO to directly attack the Bosnian-Serbs and this is what Srebrenica became: a buzzword to justify a completely illegal (and, I would argue, immoral) attack of a superpower and military alliance against a small, largely rural, religious minority which was guilty of not obeying the Hegemon’s orders when told to do so.

    My hope is that 20 years later this might change and that the biggest change might come from the least expected side: the Muslim world.

    Why?

    A number of reasons:

    First, while the AngloZionist Empire did pretend to act in defense of Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo, it then turned to exactly the same set of PSYOPs to attack Muslim countries such as Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Somalia, etc. While initially it was the “Serbian Chetniks” who were on the receiving end of the “Empire of Kindness'” “responsibility to protect” (r2p) operations, but after Bosnia and Kosovo all the other “new Hitlers” were in Muslim nations. Do you remember the nonsense about “Gaddafi giving Viagra to his soldiers to rape opposition women”? Does that not remind you of “rape as a weapon of ethnic cleansing” of the Bosnian narrative? What about the Syrian “Houla massacre”? Is that not a “Markale massacre”? Now that the Muslims are themselves the victims of exactly the same old dirty tricks, they might be far more willing to question the official narrative about Srebrenica than before.

    Second, a large number of Muslims did die in Srebrenica. Some in “legitimate” combat, but other were truly executed. The friends and relatives of these murdered Muslims will want to know who really ordered these murders. While it might be comforting for them to see Karadzic and Mladic in jail at the Hague, they might not be so happy at the idea that the real culprits are still free, especially if some of these culprits include Bosnian-Muslim officials from the Sarajevo government.

    The full and real story of Srebrenica has not emerged yet, but the good news is that it is finally being researched and questioned. Even more importantly, Muslims and Orthodox Christians have begun looking at these events together (see below). What is crucial at this point in time is to fully separate two issues:

    a) The investigation of actual events on the ground, what really happened in Srebrenica and the establishment the full list of those responsible for the massacres of civilians and POWs regardless of where they were or are.

    b) Analyzing the use which was made by the AngloZionist Empire of the events in Srebrenica.

    These are different issues which should be addressed separately. Both of these issues, however, absolutely mandate that we all accept to question the official narrative (which, frankly, makes no sense at all) and the we pursue the truth, whatever it might be, and at all costs.

    As part of this quest for the truth through an open and frank debate I am presenting you with a number of very important documents:

    1) A “Srebrenica Factsheet” prepared by Stefan Karganovic and Aleksandar Pavic.

    2) A report entitled “Srebrenica Fifteen Years Later – The Question of Evidence” written by by George Bogdanich and Jonathan Rooper.

    3) A report entitled “Srebrenica Narrative Responsibly Challenged” about a about a recent conference in Banja Luka on the topic “Can politically weaponized Srebrenica be turned into a peace-making tool?

    4) The video of the address of Sheikh Imran Hussein to the Banja Luka Conference.

    5) The video of the address of Professor Alexander Dugin to the Banja Luka Conference.

    6) The video of an appeal to the Bosnian-Muslims by Sheikh Imran Hussein.

    7) An analysis entitled “Reconciliation – the Empire’s way” by “S.P.” about the events surrounding the Russian veto at the UNSC of the “Srebrenica Genocide” Resolution submitted by the United Kingdom.

    For those who have not seen them, I would like to also refer you to the following past articles concerning the war in Bosnia:

    The truth about Srebrenica finally?

    Srebrenica: requiem for a propaganda fiction

    The Genocide Myth: Uses and Abuses of “Srebrenica”

    Saker interview with Nebojsa Malic aka “Grey Falcon”

    Response from a Bosnian Muslim

    Whose Bosnia is it anyways?

    Response to a Bosnian Muslim

    This is a lot to read, I understand that, however I do strongly believe that the topic is important enough to deserve a thorough and detailed analysis and discussion.

    I also want to repeat here that while my personal position on what really happened in Srebrenica is pretty clear, I do invite those who will disagree with it, or with any of the documents presented here, to present their own evidence and analysis. While absolutely no ad hominems of any kind will be tolerated, I do encourage a vigorous and open ended debate on this, and any other, topic.

    A lot of people put a lot of efforts presenting you with all this information and I hope that you will find it worthwhile and that you will make good use of it. To all those who helped prepare this report – my most heartfelt gratitude for all your time and efforts!

    Srebrenica happened twenty years ago, but it is still used today as the primary weapon by those who want to oppose Muslims and Orthodox Christians. As long as we all accept to play by the “Chetniks vs Wahabis” playbook they will continue to divide and conquer us. Those who will insist against all evidence that this narrative is true ought to ask themselves who benefits from this dynamic. I submit that the real guilty party is the one which actually created all the conditions for Srebrenica to happen and who worked on this plan not in Pale or Sarajevo, but in Belgrade and Washington DC. I hope that the information below will contribute to establish this truth.

    The Saker

    Full article

  20. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Sophocles For This Post:

    Baby Steps (21st July 2015), Cidersomerset (6th August 2015), Roberta (8th August 2015)

  21. Link to Post #571
    Norway Avalon Member
    Join Date
    19th February 2011
    Age
    42
    Posts
    821
    Thanks
    16,435
    Thanked 4,441 times in 780 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    Zakharchenko, Deinego and Pushilin have set a trap for Poroshenko

    July 20, 2015 The Saker

    Top Novorussian officials from the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics (Zakharchenko, Deinego and Pushilin) have held a joint press conference and officially announced that they had taken the unilateral decision to withdraw by no less than 3km from the line of contact all their weapons up to a 100mm caliber (weapons of a heavier caliber were supposed to have already been withdrawn according to the Minsk-2 Agreement (M2A); the Novorussians complied, the junta in Kiev did not). Before that, the Novorussians had already done a similar unilateral action by withdrawing all their forces by over 1km from the town of Shirokino. Predictably, the Ukronazis did not follow suit and stayed on their positions (but did not dare enter Shirokino either, at least as far as I know).

    This time around, the Ukronazis greeted the new “gesture of goodwill” of the Novorussians with an unprecedented barrage of artillery fire on the city of Donestsk which, again, was shelled all night long.

    So what is going on here? Have the Novorussians suddenly gone crazy?

    Far from it.

    In fact, they have set a very elegant trap for Poroshenko and his western backers. Here is how it works.

    Political level:

    On a political level the Novorussians are bending over backwards to prove to anybody willing to listen that they are truly complying with all the provisions of M2A. The problem, of course, is that nobody in the West is willing to listen. In response, the Novorussians are multiplying the initiatives to make it harder and harder for western leaders to ignore the facts on the ground which are simple: the junta has not even begun complying with M2A while the Novorussians have complied. As soon as Zakharchenko, Deinego and Pushilin made their announcement, Lavrov called Steinmeier to stress that the Novorussians were doing everything they could and that the pressure should now be put on Poroshenko to follow suit. Now, of course Lavrov knows that Steinmeier is a US puppets and takes his orders from Uncle Sam and, more importantly, Lavrov also knows that Poroshenko cannot implement M2A, but since M2A was signed, the Russians are now pretending as if the Ukrainians could abide by its terms and they make sure that they, and their BRICS/SCO allies, mantrically repeat that “the Minsk 2 Agreements are the only way to solve this conflict“. In reality, of course, M2A is the best way to achieve regime change in the Ukraine. Why?

    Because even though Poroshenko has not implemented any of the M2A points, he is already being openly attacked by the Right Sector and the various Ukronazi parties for not decisively fighting the oligarchs and the Novorussians. The situation in the western Ukraine is now dead serious and Dmitri Iarosh has openly described the regime in Kiev “traitors” and called for the numerous Ukronazi deathsquads to rebel and disobey Poroshenko’s orders.

    Poroshenko would love to prove his patriotism by triggering yet another large scale attack on Novorussia, but the problem here is that this already failed the last two times around and that the Novorussians are now even much stronger than they used to be.

    Military aspect:

    Though only an actually full scale resumption of hostilities would test this hypothesis, there is very strong evidence that the Novorussians have successfully achieved their transition from a decentralized militia force to a unified regular army. This means that they can potentially go from tactical victories to operational level counter-attacks posing a major risk for the regime in Kiev. They clearly have enough men under arms and they openly admit that their equipment is “adequate”. Hopefully, so is their command and control (which used to be terrible). Even more telling is the fact that the Novorussian leaders are all clearly very confident about their ability not only to push back any Ukronazi attack, but to counter-attack and inflict major losses. Zakharchenko has openly said so many times. Time was always on the Novorussian side and now this is finally paying off.

    The Novorussian confidence is best illustrated by the fact that even though Novorussian intelligence services have established that there are currently 70’000 junta soldiers backed by heavy armor and artillery all along the line of contact they still went ahead with their unilateral withdrawal. Besides, the Novorussians have had plenty of time to carefully prepare the terrain along the likely axis of attack of the junta forces which, if they attack, will be carefully channeled into carefully prepared fire pockets and destroyed. I also suppose that the Novorussians have dramatically improved their mobility and fire coordination which will make it much easier for them to engage any attacking force.

    So the reality is this: the Novorussians are really not taking much of a risk with their unilateral actions. In fact, they have very nicely combined good political PR and sound military tactics.

    Poroshenko’s dilemma

    Poroshenko is in a terrible situation. The Ukrainian economy is basically dead. There is nothing left to salvage, nevermind turn the tide and overcome the crushing economic crisis. The Right Sector is up in arms and very, very angry. Folks in the western Ukraine are already seriously considering demanding their own special autonomy status. As for Odessa with Saakashvili in charge and the daughter of Egor Gaidar as Deputy Governor, it will inevitably explode, especially since the USA officially pays their salaries.

    When Poroshenko goes to the Rada he has to look “tough”, i.e. say the exact opposite of what he committed to do according to M2A. But since even the White House has called the M2A the only solution, Poroshenko is put in the crazy situation of having to look like a peacemaker by day, and execute Nuland’s crazy orders by night. By now Poroshenko has probably already figured out that he is being used like both a pawn and a fall guy by the USA: when he will be forced to order an attack on Novorussia and this attack inevitably fails, he will be blamed for it all. Why would the USA order Poroshenko to attack even though such an attack is sure to result in yet another defeat? For two reasons: the (now rather hypothetical) hope that Russia might intervene and because that is the perfect way to get rid of Poroshenko. Unsurprisingly, Poroshenko has no desire to lose power and, most likely, die, so he is doing his best to avoid taking that dramatic step while continuing to shell Donetsk and the rest of the cities of the Donbass just to prove his “patriotism” and military “prowess”. The problem with that “solution” is that this kind of shelling does *nothing* to weaken the Novorussian armed forces but only serves to further enrage the people of Novorussia.

    When the attack comes

    So what will happen when the probably inevitable attack comes? My guess is that the Novorussians will rapidly and effectively counter it and mount an immediate counter offensive, probably towards Mariupol and/or Slaviansk. At this point the junta will freak out again and beg its western patrons to stop the Novorussians (which is exactly what happened before Minsk 1 and 2). Obama and Kerry will probably have the nerve to blame Russia for it all again, but in Europe the elites will be in full panic mode, not only because “their” guy clearly was the one to violate M2A and the one to have launched the attack, but also because they will be terrified of the possible depth of the Novorussian counter-attack (their biggest fear is a coastal corridor to the Crimean Peninsula). Remember the Sarkozy trip to Moscow to beg the Russians not to enter Tbilissi in 2008? I would not be surprised if something similar happened again (with Merkel or Hollande in Sakozy’s role). And, again, Putin will probably order the Novorussians to stop , but the terrain they would seize would remain in their hands, like in Debaltsevo. Everybody would have to accept that, however reluctantly. At which point I would expect a complete collapse of the regime in Kiev. Who could replace it then?

    Regime change sure! But for what?

    I only see two options here. Option one is a military coup to “save the Ukraine” and “restore peace”. That would be a de-facto end of the entire Ukronazi experiment and a basic acceptance of the Putin plan: a de-centralized, unitary and neutral Ukraine with a right of self-determination guaranteed by the Constitution. The other option is an openly Nazi regime of Bandera freaks à la Right Sector and the various death squads. The accession to power by bona fide Nazis will, of course, only re-start the process of breakup of the rump Ukraine which, form the Russian point of view, this is also a temporarily acceptable outcome. Russia cannot accept having permanent and unitary russophobic “Banderastan” on her borders, but a breakup of the Ukraine into several “zones of control” by various Urkonazi gangs presents no danger to Russia at all. I would argue that the worst regime for Russia (and Novorussia, of course) is what we have now: a unitary Ukraine ruled by a completely immoral and spineless oligarch in power, surrounded by Victoria Nuland’s minions in all key positions, with the official recognition and support of the EU/IMF/WB/etc. This configuration clearly has the greatest potential to threaten Russia and it already actually murders people in Novorussia every day. But if the Ukraine follows the Libyan or Iraqi “democracy model” then it will be a much bigger problem for the EU than for Russia.

    Putin and Zakharchenko have all the time in the world

    The “Ukronazi Ukraine” has by now already acquired enough self-destructive momentum for Putin and Zakharchenko to sit back and wait. They don’t have to do anything right now other than to prepare for a very likely and desperate suicide-attack by the junta against Novorussia. Should that happen, the Novorussian will be ready to counter-attack and fast and as deep as possible and then stop again and restart the mantra about “we support the territory integrity of the Ukraine” while thinking “but we can’t help it if the damn thing falls apart“. Obama and Kerry will, of course, blame Russia for it all, but for who long can anybody blame somebody for doing absolutely *nothing*?

    The people of Novorussia unfortunately don’t

    The toughest situation so far has been for the people of Novorussia who could take little comfort in the nice theory that time is on “their” side while shells are landing on their houses, schools and hospitals. For them, every minute of this horror was was an emergency which had to be stopped now. Things are now starting to get really ugly in the Nazi-occuppied Ukraine too. Check out this video of a famous Ukrainian blogger (in exile in Russia irrc) in which he reports how the “Ukrop” party (of Kolmoiskii and Iarosh) is trying to get votes by distributing food:

    (please press ‘cc’ to see the English subtitles)



    Scary no?

    And it is only going to get worse, much worse. Politically, economically and socially the Ukraine is dead, even if the body is will warm. Only a regime change followed by the inevitable de-Nazification, combined with a long term and major international stabilization and reconstruction program might, eventually and slowly, allow the Ukraine to return to some modicum of normalcy, and that only if Russia plays a major role in this effort. Since such an outcome is absolutely unacceptable for the AngloZionist Empire, the Ukraine will continue to be a “black hole” like Kosovo, Libya or Somalia – a failed state with abject poverty ruled by thugs and Mafia dons. For this reason, a breakup of the country into several smaller entities is probably the least bad option for everybody, especially the Ukrainians themselves.

    One big explosion or several smaller ones?

    What if you were offered the choice to either be in the room A where 100gr of TNT would be detonated at once, or in room B where 5 times 20gr of TNT would be detonated sequentially, with some possibly not exploding at all? The choice is obvious, right? The same goes for the Ukraine.

    There might be much less danger for the entire continent if the Ukraine was allowed to break up in several parts (Donbass, Central, Souther and Western for example) and this might be much better for the local population too. For one thing some parts are far more viable than others. They are also very different. And since the Ukraine in its current borders is both a creation of Lenin and Stalin and has no basis in history anyway, a breakup might be a much safer and more natural process than desperate attempts to keep this artificial entity alive. In ideological terms the Ukraine is a fantastic idea: a large virulently anti-Russian state ‘protecting’ the rest of Europe from the Russian hordes. Great! But as soon as one looks at the practicalities of such a project it becomes immediately clear that it is a crazy notion born in the sick minds of the rabidly russophobic western religious and political elites. The only question is this: will the western plutocrats agree to give up on the monster they created? The future of Russian does not depend on the answer, but the future of Europe probably will.

    The Saker

  22. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Sophocles For This Post:

    Baby Steps (21st July 2015), Cidersomerset (6th August 2015)

  23. Link to Post #572
    Norway Avalon Member
    Join Date
    19th February 2011
    Age
    42
    Posts
    821
    Thanks
    16,435
    Thanked 4,441 times in 780 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    Thousands of Ukraine ultranationalists gather on Maidan, announce ‘new revolution’

    Published time: 21 Jul, 2015 18:18 Russia Today

    Up to 6,000 supporters of Ukraine’s ultranationalist Right Sector movement gathered in central Kiev on Tuesday, calling on authorities to resign. The rally marks a “new stage of Ukrainian revolution,” the extremists' leader Dmitry Yarosh announced.

    The radicals marched through the center of the Ukrainian capital on Tuesday evening, gathering on Maidan (Independence Square). The rally largely consisted of people wearing camouflage clothes, waving the red and black flags of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA). They were chanting “death to enemies,” TASS reported.

    Speaking on Maidan, Right Sector (Pravy Sektor) leader Dmitry Yarosh said that the group is “showing that we are a disciplined revolutionary force,” opening a “new stage of Ukrainian revolution” with the Tuesday rally.

    Ahead of the rally, Yarosh has said that the gathering would be “peaceful” in nature.

    The ultranationalist group announced its plans to initiate a referendum on a vote of no-confidence in the Ukrainian authorities. At the rally, protesters demanded the resignation of Ukraine's Interior Minister Arsen Avakov.

    Field offices will be organized in all regions of Ukraine to work on the referendum starting from Wednesday, Yarosh announced at the rally, saying that those Right Sector centers will also act as “revolutionary committees.” Imposing martial law on the territory of Ukraine should also be put on the vote, he said.


    (Streamed live on Jul 21, 2015)


    People must voice their attitude to what's happening in the country ... the government should know that if the people are not pleased with it, then it must go,” Yarosh said, as quoted by TASS. If the movement is not given the right to organize the referendum, then they will create their own election committee and “will vote independently on the whole territory of Ukraine,” he added.

    Average working people also joined the Tuesday rally, being displeased with poor living standards in the country under the Poroshenko government, RT's correspondent Murad Gazdiev reported from Ukraine.

    "Ukraine is in absolutely terrible state at the moment, the economic situation is much worse than it was two years ago under Yanukovich," journalist and broadcaster from London Neil Clark told RT. "It's quite predictable" that people have taken to the streets, he added.

    "The situation is going to get worse, because ordinary people are saying ‘what was all that about?’” Clark said, adding that ultranationalists might contribute to destabilizing the situation, as President Poroshenko is now "attacking the very people who helped bring him to power."

    Right Sector radicals participated in Ukraine's previous revolution, and have since been fighting in the in eastern Ukraine conflict. The heavily-armed battalions, who have previously denounced the Minsk ceasefire, made calls "to blockade Donbass" during the Tuesday rally.

    On Sunday, the Ukrainian capital saw a large march of approximately 2,000 people who took to the streets of Kiev to protest high housing and public utilities prices. Some of the Sunday march banners read "where are the reforms?" and "we are dying of hunger." A similar rally happened in the city of Dnepropetrovsk in central Ukraine, where dozens of demonstrators, mainly people of older age, blocked one of the roads in the city, demanding the resignation of President Poroshenko.

    RT
    Last edited by Sophocles; 21st July 2015 at 19:51.

  24. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Sophocles For This Post:

    Baby Steps (21st July 2015), Cidersomerset (6th August 2015)

  25. Link to Post #573
    Norway Avalon Member
    Join Date
    19th February 2011
    Age
    42
    Posts
    821
    Thanks
    16,435
    Thanked 4,441 times in 780 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    From another angle... If we imagine Putin as one of the highest ranking members of public figures with ties to the illuminati, then it might be worth listening a little bit to this guy.

    Here is a former norwegian politician (Labour Party), Norulv Øvrebotten, who claims both 9/11 and the Utøya shootings and Oslo bombings to be the work of the KGB/FSB. Since 2011 he has been mostly censored in the norwegian media (he has a facebook and a google+ account) until now. A couple of days ago one of his comments were left uncensored (in norwegian). According to himself the reason for that being the norwegian msm now are starting to realize the terror in july 2011 was something more than just a lone man`s work.

    Before Øvrebotten`s article (which is a couple of years old, by the way), here is a reminder of what happened in Russia when Putin came to power (in the documentary «Blowing up Russia» (also a book by the assassinated Alexander Litvinenko):



    Quote The illusion of cultural enemies is designed to restrict the thinking of people. It is designed to convince people that the real enemy is not the evil that rules over them, but some imaginary demon that would do them harm.

    Jeremy Locke, The End of All Evil
    Øvrebotten`s article:

    The paradoxical logic of smart terror, and why the truth is contrary to what the world generally believes

    My background, history and description:

    I am a former reporter, chief editor and defence politician. During the last year I have been working on the disclosure of the deceptive operation in connection with the terror and mass murder in Norway on July 22nd 2011. Behind all the camouflage you will find also in this operation an old communist method which is recurring in a long row of similar combinations of murder and deception throughout recent history. In order to indirectly consolidate and accumulate power.

    I live in Førde, Sogn og Fjordane County, Western Norway.

    I have been a reporter at the NRK Radio newsdesk and NRK Radio foreign affairs editors in Oslo (1980-1986), and chief editor of the newspapers Firdaposten in Florø and Rogalands Avis in Stavanger in the nineteen nineties. In the last one I was also the administrative director.

    Between 1986 and 1988 I was the Personal Secretary (Political Advisor) of Defence Minister Johan Jørgen Holst, who came from the position of director of the Norwegian Institute of Foreign Policy (NUPI), the man behind the Oslo Agreement of the Middle East in 1993, and also appreciated as Norway’s foremost politician on security and foreign affairs.

    Johan Jørgen Holst died in service as Minister of Foreign Affairs in 1994, only 56 years old, after being hit by numerous cerebral hemorrhages. Prime Minister and physician Gro Harlem Brundtland immediately concluded that his death was due to a hereditary weakness of Mr. Holst. In that case I must be suffering from the same sort of weakness, in addition to a few others, but survived. Another of Johan Jørgen Holst’s secretaries who served as his deputy while he held the post of Defence Minister, was shot and killed in 1999. The murder was camouflaged under a false motive and in a false context.

    I have been a chairman of and sitting on several government appointed committees on defence matters. My security clearance was NATO Cosmic Top Secret.

    Today I am retired, but the insight in defence and security politics does not depend on wearing a white collar or not. As a consequense of my background and personal experience I can give you an analysis and understanding of the political reality that goes far deeper than what you get in the normal press. I know the deep state far better than most other people.

    I had my first prestigous appointment in the Ministry of Defence at the age of 23. While Rolf Hansen held the post of Defence Minister and Johan Jørgen Holst was his deputy. I then got infiltrated by Stasi, the East German Intelligence Service. With consequenses that escalated as time passed. In particular after the alleged outcome of the fall of the Berlin Wall was turned upside down in Norway as a consequense of new communist deceptions, and Stasi became incorporated into the KGB.

    After the transition from The Soviet Union to Russia, the secret services of the Kremlin changed name and became the FSB, and the old, well masked domination over the Norwegian State from the days of Josef Stalin in the nineteen thirties, was reinforced and continued into a new era. 

    Norwegians have so far been through three name changes in the secret services that dominates and controls us: NKVD, KGB, and now FSB. In other words through several generations, starting more than 70 years ago. Norway lost their true independance and continued living on an illusion. Stalin doubled everything he could reach, not least whole states.

    Very few people have had such an extensive and personal contact with eastern secret services as I have during my lifetime. So my insight regarding how double states work is profound. The subject of conspiracy is an integrated part of intelligence and security policy, and the Machiavellian life in the shadows is best learned through practice. Particularly when your life is at risk and you have to save it.

    As a consequence of the insight into how Norway and other states in reality are controlled from the shadows in conditions of significance, smear campaigns are frequently run against me on the internet and otherwise. I choose to ignore those. This kind of methods is always used against dissidents in this kind of systems. If you don’t get killed. Both can happen to you.

    Indirect deception means manipulating people in the surroundings of the target. The person who is the target will then be affected indirectly. Not just directly. As in normal deception. This is how the most professional cheaters create a snowball effect and Our Cause: The Cosa Nostra.

    Using people in the surroundings of the target as intermediaries in order to fool, force and deceive, means the deception is mediate, not immediate, in other words. It is primarily indirect.

    Just as much as a single person like myself and others, can be targeted for this kind of attack and deception, parts of or even complete populations can be targeted by the same kind of procedure, of which [the] July 22nd [terrorist attack] is an example. 9/11 is the same story. A similar structure is a recurrent feature in the different events. They come in creative variations, all spectacular.

    I have gradually gained many years of experience as an infiltrated and persecuted critic of the system and an oppositional in Norway, and I have been exposed to several murder attempts, systematical abuse and harassment. By classic communist techniques.

    Some of these techniques in psychological warfare, are described by British journalist Luke Harding of The Guardian in his book «Mafia State» released last year. He was mildly terrorised compared with what I have been exposed to in Norway. He was never exposed to physical torture.

    People who get deprived of sleep, poisoned and harassed obviously become sick, but they don’t have a disease. Even if such an illusion can be created.

    I have identified and am able to describe the most advanced methods of deception in public and private proceedings the last decade. This totalitarian phenomenon is international. The deceptions are first and foremost indirect, and are used in various forms to manipulate important issues for the desired outcome both in Norway and other western countries.

    What I describe is how terror and deception are combined in smaller and bigger operations, after surveying the method of these schemes. They follow old recipes from the era of Joseph Stalin. In addition to include brutal violence and torture, they are built on techniques from [the trade of] magicians and other illusionists.

    Modern operations of deception have evolved and gained higher levels of sophistication since the days of Lenin and Stalin, but the basic structure and mindset behind have not changed.

    «Game of the negative space» was what the nazis called these schemes.

    With these smart techniques crime can be white washed and dressed up as law and order, and passed as something different than what they are. Lawyers are very often used in these deceptions. Where the building blocks are contradictions. With illusion and deception as consequences.

    You will then kill your friends in order to strenghten your friends, which has been demonstrated in Norway in 2011. In this kind of legal construction a basic contradiction is built into the essential structure of the scheme.

    The combination of assassins and lawyers creates almost perfect crimes.

    My conclusions follow as a consequense of identifying the method: You will find the same director behind the scenes in the terrorist attacks in the US in 1995 and 2001, as in Norway in 2011. The same applies for Poland in 2010.

    This is revealed solely by the characteristic deception originating from the Soviet era that you will find in connection with the national proceedings of these attacks. Carried out against defenceless people.

    Same method and other consistencies can be found in all of these circumstances. Which also applies for professional impostors appearing as lawyers. They apply procedures and techniques that trick everybody continually, adapted from illusionists. With masking the real purpose as a consequense.

    Commissions lead by a lawyer is a standard element following this kind of terror in affected countries, and when this kind of reports is presented as unmasked and honest truth, the exact opposite is the actual fact. Everything is made more masked and dishonest as a result of the proceedings.

    The prefabricated untruth about terror and murder is developed in this manner, and externally given more seriousness and authority as a consequence of the processing in special commissions of this kind, and the same happens when courts of law are dealing with these issues. Where deception is built on murder.

    Stalin discovered the biggest western security loophole in the field of law, and this security loophole has now been blown bigger and changed into a permanently open gate. Western states of law can through the game of the negative space be turned into states of crime. With complicity in murder, terror and any other criminal activity.

    Everything that was made for a good purpose can be turned into the exact opposite in this manner. Whole states and security systems can be turned against their own populations.

    The signature belongs to the KGB. Using the old name of the eastern secret services. Which is called the FSB today. Plus the SVR and the GRU for other parts of these services, to be precise. Not that a new name means any methods and schemes have changed. The same models and procedures as before are still being used.

    This is canny and evil genius from the era of Joseph Stalin.

    Which is more vibrant than ever. The evil genius is only upgraded and modernised. Not least enabled to be masked as law and justice, even more than earlier. It has more than ever been systemized for this purpose. In a way that crime is gaining a semblance of legality, and can be presented as something different than what it really is.

    The red thread from the old days has only changed colour. No real break with the past has occured in the East. Only the illusion that it happened has been created since 1992. With considerable consequences for the power structure in the West. At every level. It is therefore in the West, and not in the East, that the really substantial and deep break with the past occurs.

    Strategic deception is an art of war that Moscow masters better than nobody else. Creating an illusion of loss can be ingenious in order to win. After twenty years of living with the consequences of this illusion, both Europe and the US are still under the covert Russian heal, now more than ever. Indirectly. As a consequence of this strategic feint, and the brutal terror attacks that has occured to consolidate covert power under the cover of this stratagem. In the really big game. Which the Americans call «The Grand Strategy».

    The Mafia State of the era of Lenin and Stalin has been transformed, and as a consequence become really great and powerful. It is now a Russian led empire covering several continents. With several western intermediate level managers. Smartly encapsulated in the revised system of the East. Where covert power is what counts. Any other [powers] are just fronts in reality.

    "The Dual State" was a totalitarian consept that communists and nazis had in common. Since then the dual state as basic principle has been systematically developed, made more sophisticated, realised and developed in one country after the other in the West. They all have a democratic external facade that covers up old and well known realities of political power internally. With the same kind of deception in public proceedings of important issues as a common strategic characteristic.

    The impostors are generally disguised as lawyers. They are the moles. As before. With the difference that their numbers are now greater than ever.

    The masked power of the East has been reinforced on a basis that was already systematically and well developed. The center of gravity has been moved westward during the last twenty years. With this kind of relocation of real power comes the combination of terror and deception to indirectly secure and consolidate what has been gained, and which is being acheived increasingly by this kind of totalitarian methods. Like the increasingly demoralised population of the US are experiencing.

    The Americans are in reality going through a painful process from a life in freedom to a life in the opposite in a covert and increasingly totalitarian vassal state. As a consequence of having lost a cold war that they have been tricked to believe they won. Faith is a predisposing quality.

    The game of the negative space have some absurd consequenses, and one of them is that the US lost the cold war a long time before it was officially over. With an illusion of the opposite result. The brutal coup against President John F. Kennedy in 1963 was a milestone in this respect. It is now 50 years since Kennedy got a bullet in his head. As if he was a kulak under Stalin.

    Personnally I have no doubt that this coup in America was a deceptive operation from the KGB. After having identified the method. Which is consistent with similar situations and other deceptive operations from the East.

    Later Russia has gained an increasingly good basis for controlling important issues in the US by means of intrigue and similar acts of deception. The Watergate scandal is standing out in particular. When Richard Nixon had to step down as president. In 1974. The method of deception with this result belonged to the KGB.

    You still have to go further back in time than the days of Nixon and Kennedy to get a better understanding of the context. My analyses on the basis of having identified the eastern methods of deception , show that the Russians gained the strategic upper hand as early as soon after the end of WW2. When the US founded the CIA and created NATO in a way that made it possible to turn both against their real purposes, and gradually become much greater eastern successes than western.

    This has been high class strategic art of war from Moscow since before WW2, and recent events like 9/11 in 2001, is much easier to comprehend when you are able to follow the correct loose ends backwards, after having identified the engine of the development. This engine is smart Russian deception. After the same recipe. Decade after decade. You have now entered a new millennium with the same old story.

    Now socialism as an attraction and camouflage has been swapped with human rights. The world will be deceived, and you along with it. It is done cleverly. No one is against heaven on earth.

    Russian brightness and intellectual superiority have been the crucial strategic success factors all these years. Now the Russian President Putin can use the US almost like a Foreign Legion wherever he wants. Like you saw unfolding in Libya in 2011. Which doesn’t exactly indicate that Putin has lost any cold war. Neither any other war. A warm one.

    The combination of terror and deception is always present in the company of the totalitarian power. Like it used to be in the era of Stalin. It is a paradox that the unrestrained brutality itself is blinding most people from the fact that this is the same old story all over again. Even today. It has only come much closer to the life of even more western people. Covert communist terror which through deception passes guilt to others, is no longer far away and distant.

    The truth is really there for everybody to see, and therefore it gets easily overlooked.

    The context should be easy to understand. When it is explained in a simple way: The indirect consequense of the combination of terror and deception is that people will support the system. Which the killing in reality happened for. Entire populations are getting tricked into it.

    Such brutal terror with great shock effect thus has a rational explanation in a strategic context. Power is fortified and consolidated. The logic of war is not linear. It is paradoxical. Therefore the consequenses of terror is also paradoxical. The purpose is achieved indirectly.

    My profile picture was taken in 1996. This is used deliberately. That was the year when the legal position I had from my birth as a human being was turned upside down in the alleged western state of law of which I was a citizen. Precisely as a consequense of the game of the negative space against me. That is why I became an expert. Smart deception dressed up as smart law is something I understand better than most people, after having investigated and uncovered this game for seventeen years. In detail. Either if such deception is combined with murder or not.

    All conditions were systematically turned upside down in my case, and subsequently others were tricked into acting on this false basis. Which is what this communist method of deception involves otherwise as well. Wherever it is used. From micro to macro levels.

    «Once false, always false», the arrangement is. Both in large and small. Reality is shaped when you and others are tricked into acting on the illusions. These illusions are created continuously as a consequense of the method itself when the game of the negative space is the engine of the development. In these charades the normal consequense is that the truth of any matter is the opposite of what you are tricked to percieve. This is a characteristic consequence of the illusions.

    The human mind has a built-in weakness: It perceives the cause first, then the effect. This weakness makes it possible for magicians, scammers and impostors to trick you. It is a weakness utilized to the maximum in these communist deceptions.

    Any positive condition is given a simultaneous negation, and others are tricked into acting on the basis of the negation. The deception thus has ever increasing, compelling consequenses. For the one or for those who are targeted.

    The working principle of the communist game of the negative space, is breaking a principle. Consistently and consequently.

    And it isn’t just any principle which is broken. The principle of non-contradiction according to Aristotle, also known as the law of non-contradiction, stating that contradictory statements cannot both be true in the same sense at the same time. It is considered the most important principle of rational thinking. Which is the basis of western civilisation, enlightenment and progress.

    Communist barbarism and deception of the East, either in its old or new form, constitutes a completely different basis of human life. Where two or more contradictory statements are considered true at the same time. Conclusions are claimed to prove the premises. Where honest thinking and rational argumentation to make advance in life, in reality is replaced by trickery and robbery, coercion and brute force in general. Dishonesty and untruth have been reduced to a system. In that case the West has broken with the values and civilisation of the past, which are founded on the basis of rationality. On a system of common sense.

    Then freedom is lost.

    Nine-eleven 2001 in the US and July 22nd 2011 in Norway, are two of several incidents which confirms this increasing loss of freedom. Something that is easier to understand when the method of this combination of terror and deception is identified. When the right context has been clarified.

    Source

    Quote Insanity is not an inability to perceive reality; it is a willing rejection of reality in favor of the artificial constructs of tyranny.

    Jeremy Locke, The End of All Evil

  26. The Following User Says Thank You to Sophocles For This Post:

    Cidersomerset (6th August 2015)

  27. Link to Post #574
    UK Avalon Member Cidersomerset's Avatar
    Join Date
    16th May 2011
    Location
    Bridgwater somerset UK
    Age
    63
    Posts
    22,333
    Thanks
    33,460
    Thanked 79,637 times in 18,693 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    Hi Sophocles well done for keeping the thread going and updating it , you reminded
    me of an interview on the Richie Allen show about the possible 'false flag' attack
    in Oslo by the usual insane , white supremacist lone gunman. I don't know if you
    listened to it when I posted it, but it opened my eyes to the events on that infamous
    day. The journalist seems genuine and shows these operatives will do anything.

    Its related because it ties into all these other 'false flags' and agendas that are
    playing out in various parts of the globe.



    Ole Dammegard: “False Flag Operations Are Almost Always A Drill Used To Get Explosives, Actors & Vehicles Into Position”



    Published on 29 Jul 2015


    ===================================================
    ===================================================
    ===================================================

    There are to many 'psycopaths ' in positions of power all around the world.


    Institute of Peace (Inversion) Hawkish Chairman Wants Ukraine to Send Russians Back in Body Bags

    By ickonic on 4th August 2015


    Hadley_0

    ‘The United States Institute of Peace is a publicly funded national institution
    chartered by the U.S. government to promote international peace through
    nonviolent conflict resolution.

    But its chairman, Stephen Hadley, is a relentless hawk whose advocacy for greater
    military intervention often dovetails closely with the interests of Raytheon, a major
    defense contractor that pays him handsomely as a member of its board of directors.

    Hadley, the former national security adviser to President George W. Bush, was an
    advocate for the 2003 invasion of Iraq and more recently appeared in the media to
    call for massive airstrikes in Syria. Over the last year, he has called for escalating
    the conflict in Ukraine.’

    Read more: Institute of Peace (Inversion) Hawkish Chairman Wants Ukraine to Send Russians Back in Body Bags

    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2...bal-conflicts/
    Last edited by Cidersomerset; 6th August 2015 at 22:31.

  28. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Cidersomerset For This Post:

    meeradas (7th August 2015), Sophocles (6th August 2015)

  29. Link to Post #575
    Norway Avalon Member
    Join Date
    19th February 2011
    Age
    42
    Posts
    821
    Thanks
    16,435
    Thanked 4,441 times in 780 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    Thanks, Cidersomerset. I had not seen it, so I will listen to it soon. Looks interesting. Thank you.

    --------------------------------------------------------------

    This kind of ties in with Øvrebottens thesis in post #573:

    William H. McIlhany talks with Chrisopher Story in 2003 about how (the new) Russia seemingly became weaker (in the post-Soviet era) after the (illusory, according to Anatoly Golitsyn) removal of the iron curtain.



    William H. McIlhany (at 19:58 min): «The performance of political democratism, where we see alleged rival parties and rival candidates taking part in elections in the so called new Russia, and the new satelite nations, when actually all of these parties are controlled by KGB-personell and it is a performance for the american public to watch on CNN and through other parts of the media. A major part of this trategy since 1961 has consisted of building slowly and installing a very dictatorial, regional world government over all of Europe on top of the existing socialist bureaucracies that are in the governments in each of these countries. Over all of Europe, and now sadly also Britain in the form of the European Union. And this constitutes an accomplishment of Leninist strategy as predicted by Golitsyn.

    And of course while the KGB had infiltrated all the European governments and the British government as they had infiltrated the american CIA and other parts of the United States government, in addition to that the current treaty arrangments between the Eropean Union based in Brussels and the new Russia mean that there`s even further, tighter Soviet and KGB controll over the foreign policy of this new globalist regional government that controlls Europe and Britain.»

    Christopher Story (at 21:28 min): «I don`t disagree with any of that. One of the important things that Golitsyn teaches us in the Perestroika Deception is that it does not matter who wins an election because the communists always win...This business of controlling all the political parties and allowing them to adopt different names, this was a conscious policy which was laid down by Gorbatchev and Jeltsin at the 28. party congress in july 1990. Both Gorbatchev and Jeltsin made speeches in which they said to the comrades «Now is the time to follow whatever path you feel would be most appropriate» (in a nutshell). So that is what I call democratism, which is the creation and maintenance of the illusion of democracy. Now that pattern is being implemented in the European Union, because by various means almost all the participants at national level in the political process are selected, appointed or chosen for the job...When Gorbatchev visited London briefly for a day on the 23. of march, 2000, he acknowledged and stated that the European Union is the new European Soviet. What the EU is is a political collective. In a political collective decisions are taken collectively, no individual nation can take any decisions.»
    Last edited by Sophocles; 6th August 2015 at 23:40.

  30. The Following User Says Thank You to Sophocles For This Post:

    Cidersomerset (6th August 2015)

  31. Link to Post #576
    UK Avalon Member Cidersomerset's Avatar
    Join Date
    16th May 2011
    Location
    Bridgwater somerset UK
    Age
    63
    Posts
    22,333
    Thanks
    33,460
    Thanked 79,637 times in 18,693 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    Quote So that is what I call democratism, which is the creation and maintenance of the
    illusion of democracy. Now that pattern is being implemented in the European Union,

    'Democratism' the illusion of democracy . This has been going on for a very long in
    UK with the Tories and the 'whigs' ,(with few people able to vote ),which morphed
    into the Tories and Liberals then after WW1 the Lab party took hold and eventually
    after WW11 ,polarized into the left and right, with the liberal centre being squeezed
    out. There was a sort of Liberal revival in the UK in the 1990's , but it was by Blair's
    centre left for 'New labour' and the Conservatives have done something similar
    from the centre right with Cameron. Basically all three parties including the Liberals
    fighting over the centre of politics where the majority of voters in most western
    'democracies' are today, though extremist parties are raising there heads again
    remember where that led in the 1930's.

    This template has been copied around the world especially in the Anglo - Saxon
    countries the US ,Canada, Australia and many other nations . While others like
    Germany, Italy Israel are made up of smaller parties that need coalitions ,and
    have proportional representation which are probably more democratic than the
    first past the post system we have here and the UK, but just as open to corruption
    and manipulation.Russia took a different road after WW1 as with China and some
    other monarchies and other forms of government.

    Russia has taken the democratic illusionary path that the political parties at the top
    are different. When in fact TPTB that manipulate the 'elite' 1 % in most of the
    significant countries and many smaller ones by the usual ,financial , economical and
    other forms of political blackmail , are really running the world. So all these
    conflicts , 'false flags' for wars and control manipulated. This sounds far fetched ,
    but if you look at it from the point of view that humanity has been hijacked, maybe
    from thebeginning by inter dimentional entities that rule thru bloodlines' and thrive
    off war and chaos and feeds off the adrenalin given off by humans particularly in a
    state of fear. This whole bloody international mess of 'War , fear, hunger and debt'
    makes a lot of sense .

    If not the human race is just a barbaric species capable of great cruelty and
    spectacular beauty , and all the spectrum in between. For the of the 1 % Oligarchs,
    royalty , corporate and 'Bankster' elites only they are greedy selfish flawed humans.
    I think we are greater spiritually than that , and if you ask most 'normal ' people
    they all seem to want peace and prosperity and an end to poverty and hunger.
    Yet the reality we are showed in the media is designed to keep us in fear and
    control , especially with this false 'war on terror meme' and designed regional
    conflicts that keep the mil ind complex's ticking over and supplying scared
    victims to feed off. Societies have changed over the past century and with
    new technology have sped up computer wise in the last few decades .

    There are many threads that connect together from the Who are we ? threads
    break away civilisations ,UFO's , ET connections , Religions ,suppression , control ,
    Big brother, Corporations mil and civil , Banksters , Illuminatti , NWO etc...

    But we seem stuck in a never ending cycle of war and peace and manipulation
    by some one , whether terrestrial , extra terrestrial or inter dimensional. Anyway
    I digress ,I'm not sure why this just flowed from my fingers. Synchronicity again I
    suppose !! and connecting those 'bleadin' dots...LOL
    Last edited by Cidersomerset; 7th August 2015 at 10:29.

  32. The Following User Says Thank You to Cidersomerset For This Post:

    Sophocles (7th August 2015)

  33. Link to Post #577
    UK Avalon Member Cidersomerset's Avatar
    Join Date
    16th May 2011
    Location
    Bridgwater somerset UK
    Age
    63
    Posts
    22,333
    Thanks
    33,460
    Thanked 79,637 times in 18,693 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    Interventionism policies have created the conditions for the likes of Al Qaeda and
    ISIS/ISIL. We would say this is part of the Neo -Con plan for the 'New
    American 'century and the NWO agenda playing out . See Bills Anglo -Saxon mission
    vid , which though stalled may still be on the back burner. As with all strategic
    plans , on the ground the different war / propaganda theatres may play out
    different to local circumstance and events . But this whole middle east manoeuvring
    and 'war on terror meme' is all part of the redrawing of the map to suite Israel &
    Saudi and interests.The very strong Israeli lobby and Saudi oil money backed
    by the Neo -con plan taken over by the democrats , which goes back to the
    previuos posts , all political parties are manipulated at the top level to carry out these plans.

    9/11 was the pearl harbour event to get all this kick started,and immediately before
    the dust had settled ove New York,there was a list of suspects and military goals
    and targets that have been playing out since. Meanwhile the former 'cold war'
    enemies have regrouped , modernised and potentially could be drawn into
    the bigger conflict again as seen with events in the Crimea and East Ukraine , parts
    of North East china, and disputed islands in the China sea causing friction with
    Japan , and of course North Korea is on the back burner waiting for possible
    intervention. They were the nuclear no.1 renegades a decade ago. But with the
    focus on the Middle east and Ukraine , that's stalled for now

    --------------------------------------------------------------------

    ‘Root of all evil? US intervention, not Assad’ – Ron Paul University director to RT



    Published on 6 Aug 2015


    The US State Department blames the Syrian government for the rise of Islamic State.
    Meanwhile, America carries out bombings in Syria, launching strikes from a base in
    Turkey. Daniel McAdams, executive director of Ron Paul University shares his perspective

    ====================================================
    ====================================================

    US launches first anti-ISIS drone strikes from Turkey

    By ickonic on 7th August 2015



    Published on 6 Aug 2015


    The US has launched its first drone strikes at northern Syria from a Turkish airbase,
    the Pentagon has reported. This comes as Washington struck a deal to use the base
    in its fight against Islamic State. READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6oib

    ====================================================
    ====================================================


    Turkey Invades Syria and Iraq: Erdogan’s ‘Erratic’ Behavior

    By ickonic on 7th August 2015 War and Terror



    ‘Turkey has been acting pretty erratic these past couple of weeks, launching a
    surprise dual offensive in Syria and Iraq, condemning Russia for
    alleged ‘oppression’ against the Crimean Tatars, and suspending the Balkan Stream
    pipeline negotiations. All of this is somewhat unexpected – after all, Turkey had
    thus far refrained from the US’ pleas to launch a conventional attack on Syria;
    never had any serious issues about Crimea’ reunification before; and had earlier
    agreed to the Balkan Stream in order to enhance its own geostrategic clout.

    While each of Turkey’s actions pertaining to these three circumstances can be
    attributable to their own situational peculiarities, they all share two inseparable
    components, which are Erdogan’s electioneering efforts prior to the probable snap
    vote and his pipeline posturing with respect to Balkan Stream gas discounts.’

    http://orientalreview.org/2015/08/06...ior-explained/

    ====================================================
    ====================================================



    Saudi Arabia sends reinforcements, dozens more tanks to Yemen

    By ickonic on 7th August 2015 War and Terror



    ‘Saudi Arabia has sent dozens more armored vehicles and trained troops to help the
    supporters of Yemen’s President Hadi fight Houthi rebels in the country following
    months of air bombardments, which have so far failed to break the deadlock
    between rival camps on the ground.According to reports from the ground dozens of
    Riyadh tanks and other armored vehicles entered Yemen in the past 48 hours via
    Wadia, a border post in northern Yemen.

    “Dozens of tanks, armored vehicles and personnel carriers, as well as hundreds of
    Yemeni soldiers trained in Saudi Arabia, arrived in Yemen overnight,” a Yemeni
    military source told AFP.’

    Read more: Saudi Arabia sends reinforcements, dozens more tanks to Yemen

    http://www.rt.com/news/311810-saudi-...ampaign=chrome
    Last edited by Cidersomerset; 7th August 2015 at 08:15.

  34. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Cidersomerset For This Post:

    Snoweagle (12th September 2015), Sophocles (7th August 2015)

  35. Link to Post #578
    UK Avalon Member Cidersomerset's Avatar
    Join Date
    16th May 2011
    Location
    Bridgwater somerset UK
    Age
    63
    Posts
    22,333
    Thanks
    33,460
    Thanked 79,637 times in 18,693 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    David is still posting articles he has seen today on his headline page and
    they all tie in, and to be fair this applies to most days . Which strengthens
    the theory these events are all connected by plan or adapting to the changing
    situation on the ground. Created by the Neo -con Israeli backed and other
    backed NWO. I 've just been posting on the Apollo 11 thread and had another
    look on Davids page and was greeted by this article and others that are related
    imo.. Another take on the Neo-con hawke Stephen Hadley , these are Russian
    articles but they are not nessessarily biased and it ties in with everything
    going on.

    =================================================


    War is Peace': US Neocons Urge Washington to Flood Ukraine With Weapons

    By ickonic on 7th August 2015






    ‘American hawks are calling upon the US government to “flood” Ukraine with weapons because
    they are more concerned about their own wallets than about European security, US journalist
    Lee Fang points out.

    Although the United States Institute of Peace and its chairman Stephen Hadley profess that they
    promote international peace through nonviolent conflict resolution, it is not what they are actually
    doing, US journalist and writer Lee Fang underscores.

    “Stephen Hadley is a relentless hawk whose advocacy for greater military intervention often
    dovetails closely with the interests of Raytheon, a major defense contractor that pays him
    handsomely as a member of its board of directors,” the journalist revealed.”

    Read more: War is Peace': US Neocons Urge Washington to Flood Ukraine With Weapons


    http://sputniknews.com/politics/2015...025474911.html


    ====================================================
    ====================================================


    Al Jazeera – The Day Israel Attacked America the first time....USS Liberty

    By ickonic on 7th August 2015



    ===================================================
    ===================================================


     
    One year after shelling Gaza’s hospitals, Israel starves them of power

    By ickonic on 7th August 2015


    ‘Nabeel Muhammad’s job would be demanding under any circumstances. He is a
    nurse working with seriously ill patients. The difficulties that he faces have been
    multiplied by a power crisis in the Gaza Strip.

    “The machines in the intensive care units do not work without electricity,” he
    explained. Incubators for premature babies in al-Aqsa hospital in central Gaza,
    where he is based, have even been affected.

    The problems besetting this hospital illustrate how it has been under constant
    attack by one means or another for many years. In July 2014, it was shelled during
    Operation Protective Edge, Israel’s 51-day bombardment of Gaza. The power cuts
    that imperil the provision of basic services across Gaza have occurred repeatedly
    since Israel bombed the Strip’s only power plant in 2006.’

    Read more: One year after shelling Gaza’s hospitals, Israel starves them of power

    https://electronicintifada.net/conte...em-power/14753

    ====================================================
    ====================================================




    OSCE saw no military hardware, weaponry crossing from Russia to Ukraine – mission head

    By ickonic on 7th August 2015 War and Terror



    ‘No military hardware, weaponry or people bearing arms have crossed the Russian-
    Ukrainian border during nearly a year of observations, said Paul Picard, the chief of
    the OSCE monitoring mission deployed at border crossing points in Donetsk and Gukovo.

    “We have not seen any military equipment crossing the Donetsk or Gukovo
    checkpoints,” Picard said at a press conference in Russia’s southern city of Rostov-
    on-Don. The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe observers have
    also “never seen people crossing the border with weapons. The border guard and
    customs strictly watch over this,” he added.’

    Read more: OSCE saw no military hardware, weaponry crossing from Russia to Ukraine – mission head




    http://www.rt.com/news/311800-osce-r...ampaign=chrome

    ====================================================
    ====================================================


    ISIS in Afghanistan: Proxy War against Iran and China

    By ickonic on 7th August 2015 War and Terror

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




    Afghan_Militants

    ‘The nature of the war in Afghanistan has shifted dramatically in recent months.
    While the US and NATO continue to be actively involved in the country – their
    strategic objectives having changed very little since the Bush administration
    launched the war nearly a decade and a half ago – the complexion of the
    battlefield, and the parties actively engaged in the war, has changed significantly.

    The emergence of ISIS in Afghanistan, along with the impending withdrawal of US-
    NATO troops from the country, has driven the Taliban into a marriage of
    convenience, if not an outright alliance, with Iran. What seemed like an
    unfathomable scenario just a few years ago, Shia Iran’s support for the hardline
    Sunni Taliban has become a reality due to the changing circumstances of the war.
    Though it may be hard to believe, such an alliance is now a critical element of the
    situation on the ground in Afghanistan. But its significance is far larger than just
    shifting the balance of power within the country.’

    Read more: ISIS in Afghanistan: Proxy War against Iran and China

    http://journal-neo.org/2015/08/04/is...ran-and-china/
    Last edited by Cidersomerset; 7th August 2015 at 12:02.

  36. The Following User Says Thank You to Cidersomerset For This Post:

    Sophocles (7th August 2015)

  37. Link to Post #579
    United States Unsubscribed
    Join Date
    15th March 2010
    Posts
    10,068
    Thanks
    12,891
    Thanked 32,308 times in 7,756 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    Hey everyone, red flags all over this report from Sorcha...

    I think this meteor was a first strike trying to kick off WW III

    hidden in deniable "junk" says it all, let me help with a filter into what I see it saying...



    "August 8, 2015

    Russian Special Forces Converge On Massive Alien Spacecraft Debris Field In Iran

    An astounding new report being circulated in the Kremlin today by the Ministry of Defense (MoD) states that “significant elements” of the newly created Aerospace Defence Forces (VKO) and the 22nd Spetsnaz (Special Forces) Brigade are currently being deployed throughout the Islamic Republic of Iran and are working in conjunction with the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution (IRGC) to “inspect and identify” items within the massive debris field that resulted from the 31 July shootdown of an alien spacecraft.

    According to this report, the near catastrophic meteor impact occurring in Iran on 31 July which set off a 5.2 magnitude trembler was, in fact, a coordinated Federation-Iranian “successful intersection” of an “identified” alien spacecraft whose extraterrestrial entities are known to be working with certain elements of the United States military against both Russia and Israel. "

    if you look at the videos on Youtube, you will see many are saying it is a missile strike...



    "The identification of this alien spacecraft, this report continues, was made by VKO forces on 29 June after it attempted to “attack and destroy” another spacecraft entering the atmosphere of our Earth over the State of Texas, and which we reported on in our 9 July report Jade Helm-15 War Exercise Linked To Nordic Alien UFO’s Invading Texas.

    While maintaining constant surveillance, since 29 June, of this “known to be hostile” spacecraft, VKO experts in this report state, analysts calculating its orbit determined it could be “intersected” in its orbital path by Kosmos 2491 and 2504 on 31 July as it passed over Iran.

    Upon the determination that this spacecraft could be “intersected”, this report says, Federation “leadership elements” contacted their Iranian counterparts who then dispatched to Moscow the head of the IRGC, Major General Qassem Suleimani, on 24 July, to coordinate the taking down of this “hostile entity”.

    As it is illegal under Federation law to quote from any MoD report the exact characteristics of the Kosmos space-weapon satellites, various public news sources do note that they can be likened to “space assassins” due to their ability to maneuver, and that by their other unique characteristics, many believe that Russia is preparing for a space war by its placing them in orbit. "

    "With a coordinated plan in place to take down this spacecraft over Iran, MoD analysts in this report state, Kosmos 2491 and 2504, on 31 July, made a “successful intersection” of it causing it to break into numerous fragments…the majority of which fell into the Iranian regions of Eshtehard, Kerman and Bandar-e Mahshahr.

    Of the worst effects to people in the massive debris field of these spacecraft fragments falling upon Iran, this report further states, was the region around Bandar-e Mahshahr where the “main propulsion unit” of this craft fell generating a heat field described as causing the hottest temperatures ever endured by mankind as the temperature skyrocketed to an unbelievable 73C (164F) before it was extinguished by Federation forces using “special measures”.

    As to how the VKO was able to identify this alien spacecraft as being hostile and needing to be “intersected”, this report explains, was due its being previously identified as being the same type of spacecraft that landed during broad daylight in Voronezh on 27 September 1989 and was piloted by 3 meter (9 feet) giant extraterrestrial entities. "



    "As to why the United States has aligned itself with these “giants” of old whom were last expelled from Earth when their “second atmosphere” was destroyed thus creating the Great Flood, this MoD report doesn’t say….but President Putin’s stance is made very clear, and as we had reported in our 3 August report: Putin Orders “Massive Response” After Alien Space Fleet Spotted Over Japan.

    Also, due to this shootdown over Iran of one of their craft, that both NASA and the US media are continuing to cover up, more reports of who the exact combatants in this final war for our planet are will, most certainly, be revealed much sooner than later. " link

    now take out everything related to 9' aliens, I call then Squatches, but we have a different thread for that discussion...

    this report is about Space weapons...

    the missile was blasted out of the air en route to the Capital of Iran, Tehran

    Israel has been shown their defenses can be shut off at any time... Now they have been shown their best offensive weapons can be blown out of the air...

    Congress is fighting Obama on the peace agreement...

    now a possible rogue element of the US military under Israels control launched on Iran...

    Ben said arrests are coming, could they be related to this event?

    News agencies haven't spoke a word of what is going on...

  38. Link to Post #580
    Norway Avalon Member
    Join Date
    19th February 2011
    Age
    42
    Posts
    821
    Thanks
    16,435
    Thanked 4,441 times in 780 posts

    Default Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

    Multiple injuries in Kiev as grenade explodes during protest against constitutional law

    Published time: 31 Aug, 2015 10:23
    Edited time: 31 Aug, 2015 11:22

    At least 10 special forces troops have been injured as a grenade exploded during clashes in front of the parliament in the Ukrainian capital. Crowds of protesters came to oppose amendments to the constitution that would provide for decentralization of the country.

    “A combat grenade has been thrown at the Ukrainian special forces. Some of the servicemen from [Ukraine] National Guard have been seriously injured. Their life is in danger,” Anton Gerashchenko, an adviser to Kiev’s Interior Ministry, wrote on his Facebook page.

    The Ukrainian National Guard said on Facebook at least twenty of its servicemen have been injured in the clashes in Kiev. Other sources put the number of those injured at 30.

    Tweets from journalists at the scene said supporters of the radical group Right Sector were brutally attacking police officers.

    The Ukrainian UNIAN news agency also reported that smoke bombs were being thrown along with stones. Police are now trying to stop the demonstrators from storming the parliament building.



    Inside the parliament, members of the Radical party attempted to block the tribune as the debate got under way. The disruption was led by the leader of the Radical Party, Oleg Lyashko.

    Lyashko, along with his fellow party member Igor Mosiychuk, have recently been accused of organizing a criminal group, kidnappings and torture. On Saturday, Ukraine’s prosecutor general opened a case against the two right-wing politicians.

    Full article at RT

  39. The Following User Says Thank You to Sophocles For This Post:

    Snoweagle (12th September 2015)

+ Reply to Thread
Page 29 of 118 FirstFirst 1 19 29 39 79 118 LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts