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    HOW DOES USA HANDLE A WAR WHEN THEY ARE FIGHTING THEMSELVES ( USA MILITARY AGAINST USA CREATED ISIS)?

    Quote "Get Out Of Your Trucks And Run Away": US Gives ISIS 45 Minute Warning On Oil Tanker Strikes
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-1...tanker-strikes

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    from other thread.....

    Now the zionist neo -con , anglo - saxon , ottoman & 'oil' coalition have nicely got
    there little NATO ducklings following ' Uncle Sam' Duck are they ready to escalate
    incidents against 'Mother Russia' Duck ?? Or just an accident in the fog of war ?




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    Russian Su-24 fighter jet downed over Syria, parachute seen in sky



    Published on 24 Nov 2015

    A Russian Su-24 fighter has been shot down in Syria, the Russian Defense Ministry
    said, adding the plane hadn’t violated Turkish airspace and was flying at an
    altitude of 6,000 meters.

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    Russian press convoy attacked with AT missile at Syria-Turkey border



    Published on 24 Nov 2015

    Convoy with Russian journalists was hit by an anti-tank missile coming from a rebel-
    controlled area some 2.5 km away. RT’s Roman Kosarev sustained a concussion
    while RT Arabic’s Sargon Hadaya was injured by pieces of shrapnel in his back and leg.

    RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air



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    Turkey 'shoots down Russian warplane on Syria border'


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    From the section Middle East


    The Turkish military has reportedly shot down a Russian military aircraft on the
    border with Syria.Russia's defence ministry said an Su-24 had crashed on Syrian
    territory after being hit by fire from the ground, and that its pilots had managed to
    eject.But Turkish military officials said Turkish F-16s had shot down the plane after
    repeatedly warning its pilots they were violating Turkish airspace.

    Video showed the jet crashing in a rebel-held area of Latakia province.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34907983


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    LIVE: RT special coverage of Russian warplane downed over Syria

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw-nBmsng1Q

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    A Russian Su-24 fighter has been shot down in Syria, the Russian Defense
    Ministry said, adding the plane hadn’t violated Turkish airspace and was
    flying at an altitude of 6,000 meters.
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    Russian Su-24 Fighter Bomber Shot Down By Turkey On Syrian Border

    By ickonic on 24th November 2015 David's Picks, New World Order, War and Terror






    BREAKING: Russian Su-24 Fighter Bomber Shot Down By Turkey On Syrian Border

    November 24, 2015 By 21wire 2 Comments


    21st Century Wire says…

    This is certainly not good…

    ‘Russian Defense Ministers maintain that Russia did not violate Turkish
    airspace and has mission data to prove this is the case. It’s confirmed
    that the plane came down in Syrian territory. Although reports indicate
    the Russian plane was shot down from the ground, Turkey is claiming
    that its own F16 fighter intercepted and shot down the Russian aircraft.

    Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan was briefed and Prime Minister Ahmet
    Davutoglu ordered consultations with NATO, and the United Nations.
    Regardless of how you look at this incident, the fact that Turkey, a
    NATO member, would knowingly shoot down a Russian fighter jet
    involved in operations against ISIS and al Nusra (al Qaeda) terrorists
    – is defacto proof that Turkey is not only coordinating with terrorist
    paramilitary forces on the ground, but is effectively providing counter
    air defense for the terrorist forces on the ground.’

    Read more: Russian Su-24 Fighter Bomber Shot Down By Turkey On Syrian Border

    http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/11/2...syrian-border/



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    Former US Ambassador to Syria: Russia Culpable for Paris Attacks Because It Supports Assad

    By David Icke on 24th November 2015




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    Russian Insider...

    ‘We’re not going to spend too much time harping on the lunacy that came out of
    Ambassador Robert Ford’s mouth-hole during a recent interview with The Daily
    Beast. But here’s his “argument”, if you can even call it that:

    Former Ambassador to Syria Robert Ford is skeptical that the Russians are really
    changing their stance about Assad, and as long as Assad is in place, the armed
    opposition will not mobilize to fight against the Islamic State.

    Ha-ha, see? Russia refuses to violently depose Assad, which means that US-
    backed “moderate” rebels are so busy fighting Assad — and “surrendering” their
    weapons to ISIS — that they have no time to fight ISIS! Ergo, Russia “doesn’t care
    about Paris”, and has even enabled the Islamic State!’

    Read more: Former US Ambassador to Syria: Russia Culpable for Paris Attacks
    Because It Supports Assad


    http://russia-insider.com/en/brain-d...ttacks/ri11360

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    Wikileaks: Hillary Clinton Claims Saudi Arabia is the Largest Donor to ‘Sunni Terrorists’ Worldwide

    By David Icke on 24th November 2015 War and Terror



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    Wikileaks: Hillary Clinton Claims Saudi Arabia is the Largest Donor to “Sunni Terrorists” Worldwide

    By Leith Fadel on November 23, 2015


    Wikileaks has struck again; this time, they have revealed a U.S. government cable
    sent from the former Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, to the U.S. Treasury office
    that specifically alluded to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia’s substantial financial
    donations to international terrorist groups fighting the U.S. Armed Forces.

    According to an introductory cable that discussed Saudi Arabia’s background:

    “Donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni
    terrorist groups worldwide.”

    Secretary of State Clinton followed this statement up with the following:

    “Continued senior level USG engagement is needed to build-on initial efforts and
    encourage the Saudi government to take more steps to stem the flow of funds from
    Saudi Arabia-backed sources to terrorists and extremists worldwide.”’

    Read more: Wikileaks: Hillary Clinton Claims Saudi Arabia is the Largest Donor
    to ‘Sunni Terrorists’ Worldwide

    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/...sts-worldwide/

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    Flashback Septenber 5th 2014 – ISIS: McCain says everyone in the National
    Security Team recommended arming ISIS

    By David Icke on 24th November 2015



    ISIS : McCain says everyone in the National Security Team recommended arming ISIS (Sept 05, 2014)


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    Drone Pilot Whistleblowers Describe Devastating Impacts of Targeted Kill Program

    By David Icke on 24th November 2015 War and Terror



    ‘Four former drone operators who are speaking out against the U.S. military’s ongoing
    targeted killing program—and risking federal prosecution for doing so—appeared on
    Democracy Now! Friday morning, alongside renowned human rights attorney Jesselyn
    Radack, for their first extended interview on air.

    “We have seen the abuse firsthand, and we are horrified,” former Air Force Staff Sgt.
    Brandon Bryant said at a press conference Thursday.

    As Common Dreams reported earlier this week, the Air Force pilots-turned-whistleblowers
    issued an open letter to President Barack Obama warning that the drone program “is one
    of the most devastating driving forces for terrorism and destabilization around the world.”‘

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    Putin Throws Down The Gauntlet To Turkey’s Erdogan Over Downed Russian Jet

    November 24, 2015 By 21wire 15 Comments


    SEE ALSO: Russian Su-24 Fighter Bomber Shot Down By Turkey On Syrian Border

    21st Century Wire says…

    Earlier today, it’s reported that a NATO Turkish F16 aircraft shot down a Russian Su-24
    Fighter Bomber with an air-to-air missile near the Syria-Turkish border. It is the first
    time that a NATO fighter has downed a Russian combat aircraft since the start of the
    Cold War nearly 70 years ago.

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    http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/11/2...rkeys-erdogan/



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    Putin: Downing of Russian jet over Syria stab in the back by terrorist accomplices



    Streamed live on 24 Nov 2015

    The Russian President is making a statement on the Russian Su-24 warplane
    recently downed over Syria after meeting with Jordan's King Abdullah in Moscow.

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    ‘Turkey wants to drag NATO in a kind of collision course with Russia’ – Ali Rizk



    Published on 24 Nov 2015

    A Russian warplane has gone down near the Turkish-Syrian border after an apparent
    attack. Turkish and Russian sources have given conflicting reports about the incident,
    which has the potential to escalate the tension between Russia and NATO member Turkey.
    Ali Rizk, expert on Middle East affairs, talks to RT



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    Not only Ankara backs Daesh but offers also logistical support - Pepe Escobar



    Published on 24 Nov 2015


    A Russian warplane has gone down near the Turkish-Syrian border after an apparent
    attack. Turkish and Russian sources have given conflicting reports about the incident,
    which has the potential to escalate the tension between Russia and NATO member Turkey.

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    MAP: Russian Su-24 crash scheme by defense ministry



    Published on 24 Nov 2015


    Russian Defense Ministry demonstrates map of the Su-24M flight which ended in
    downing by Turkish F-16 jet. Russian MoD insists the jet didn’t violate Turkish airspace,
    while Ankara says the plane crossed into its territory for 17 seconds, leaked document indicates.

    LIVE UPDATES: http://on.rt.com/6xew

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    CrossTalk on downing of Russian military jet: Dangerous Skies
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    Published on 24 Nov 2015


    What does the downing of a Russian Air Force jet by Turkey tell us about the war
    against the Islamic State? How many sides are there in the conflict? And who
    benefits from a very divided front? Is ending the Syrian civil war as elusive as ever?
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    Total double talk and standards....

    US-backed forces have right to self-defense, but others do not': State Dept. spox



    Published on 24 Nov 2015

    Turkey and the rebels it backs northern Syria had the right to defend themselves
    against Russian airstrikes, State Department spokesman told reporters. The rebels
    reportedly killed one Russian pilot who ejected from the jet hit by a Turkish missile.
    READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6xhn

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    Turkey Russia jet: Marine killed in pilot rescue bid

    1 hour ago

    A Russian marine has been killed on a helicopter mission to rescue the crew of a jet
    downed by Turkey near the Syrian border on Tuesday.

    He died when his helicopter came under fire from rebels in northern Syria, where
    the plane crashed.

    read more...
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34917485


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    FSA video claims Russian helicopter hit with US-made TOW missile near Su-24 crash site



    Published on 24 Nov 2015

    LATEST INFO here: http://on.rt.com/6xgq

    A video of Syrian rebels allegedly firing at a Russian-made helicopter on the ground
    has been posted on a YouTube channel associated with the FSA’s 1st Coastal
    Brigade. The helicopter is said to have been on a search mission for the pilots of
    the Su-24 jet downed by Turkey in Syria.

    RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

    Second pilot of downed Russian Su-24 rescued from behind enemy lines, RT confirms



    Published on 25 Nov 2015

    RT correspondent Roman Kosarev has managed to get in touch with the second pilot
    of the Su-24 jet bomber that was shot down by the Turkish Air Force over Syria on Tuesday.


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    Lavrov: Downing Russian Su-24 looks like planned provocation, well-prepared ambush



    Streamed live on 25 Nov 2015

    The downing of a Russian warplane in Syria by Turkey appears to be a pre-planned
    provocation, the Russian Foreign Minister said. Ankara failed to communicate with
    Russia over the incident, he added - READ MORE http://on.rt.com/6xjg
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    No warnings from Turkish jets before attack – Russian Su-24 rescued pilot first interview



    Published on 25 Nov 2015
    No warnings from Turkish jets before attack, missile hit unexpectedly
    in the tail of the bomber, says Russian Su-24 rescued pilot, who gave
    first interview at Hmeimim airbase in Latakia

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    'Turkey gave no warning' - downed Russian pilot

    56 minutes ago


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34925229

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    Moscow to deploy S-400 defense missile system to Khmeimim airbase in Syria
    Published time: 25 Nov, 2015 08:37

    Edited time: 25 Nov, 2015 12:53



    https://www.rt.com/news/323379-s400-...ampaign=chrome

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    Russia deploys missile cruiser off Syria, says will target threats

    By David Icke on 25th November 2015



    http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11...ey-fighter-jet
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    Obama orders probe into intel’s alleged doctoring reports on ISIS



    Published on 24 Nov 2015

    Barack Obama has ordered an inquiry into whether the Pentagon is covering up its
    military failures against ISIS. That's after members of the Republican party claimed
    the President receives doctored intelligence reports.
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    Israeli Colonel Caught with IS Pants Down

    Author: F. William Engdahl 25.11.2015
    First appeared: http://journal-neo.org/2015/11/25/is...is-pants-down/


    This was definitely not supposed to happen. It seems that an Israeli military man with the rank of colonel was “caught with IS pants down.” By that I mean he was captured amid a gaggle of so-called IS–or Islamic State or ISIS or DAESH depending on your preference–terrorists, by soldiers of the Iraqi army. Under interrogation by the Iraqi intelligence he apparently said a lot regarding the role of Netanyahu’s IDF in supporting IS.

    In late October an Iranian news agency, quoting a senior Iraqi intelligence officer, reported the capture of an Israeli army colonel, named Yusi Oulen Shahak, reportedly related to the ISIS Golani Battalion operating in Iraq in the Salahuddin front. In a statement to Iran’s semi-official Fars News Agency a Commander of the Iraqi Army stated, “The security and popular forces have held captive an Israeli colonel.” He added that the IDF colonel “had participated in the Takfiri ISIL group’s terrorist operations.” He said the colonel was arrested together with a number of ISIL or IS terrorists, giving the details: “The Israeli colonel’s name is Yusi Oulen Shahak and is ranked colonel in Golani Brigade… with the security and military code of Re34356578765az231434.”

    Why Israel?
    Ever since the beginning of Russia’s very effective IS bombing of select targets in Syria on September 30, details of the very dirty role of not only Washington, but also NATO member Turkey under President Erdogan, Qatar and other states has come into the sunlight for the first time.

    It’s becoming increasingly clear that at least a faction in the Obama Administration has played a very dirty behind-the-scenes role in supporting IS in order to advance the removal of Syrian President Bashar al Assad and pave the way for what inevitably would be a Libya-style chaos and destruction which would make the present Syrian refugee crisis in Europe a mere warmup by comparison.

    The “pro-IS faction” in Washington includes the so-called neo-conservatives centered around disgraced former CIA head and executioner of the Iraqi “surge” General David Petraeus. It also includes US General John R. Allen, who since September 2014 had served as President Obama’s Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIL (Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) and, until she resigned in February 2013, it included Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    Significantly, General John Allen, an unceasing advocate of a US-led “No Fly Zone” inside Syria along the border to Turkey, something President Obama refused, was relieved of his post on 23 October, 2015. That was shortly after launch of the highly-effective Russian strikes on Syrian IS and Al Qaeda’s Al Nusra Front terrorist sites changed the entire situation in the geopolitical picture of Syria and the entire Middle East.

    UN Reports cites Israel
    That Netanyahu’s Likud and the Israeli military work closely with Washington’s neo-conservative war-hawks is well-established, as is the vehement opposition of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran. Israel regards the Iranian-backed Shi’a Islamist militant group, Hezbollah, based in Lebanon, as arch foe. Hezbollah has been actively fighting alongside the Syrian Army against ISIS in Syria. General Allen’s strategy of “bombings of ISIS” since he was placed in charge of the operation in September 2014, as Russia’s Putin and Foreign Minister Lavrov have repeatedly pointed out, far from destroying ISIS in Syria, had vastly expanded their territorial control of the country. Now it becomes clear that that was precisely the intent of Allen and the Washington war faction.

    Since at least 2013 Israeli military have also openly bombed what they claim were Hezbollah targets inside Syria. Investigation revealed that in fact Israel was hitting Syrian military and Hezbollah targets who are valiantly fighting against ISIS and other terrorists. De facto thereby Israel was actually helping ISIS, like General John Allen’s year-long “anti-ISIS” bombings.

    That a faction in the Pentagon has secretly worked behind-the-scenes to train, arm and finance what today is called ISIS or IS in Syria is now a matter of open record. In August 2012, a Pentagon document classified “Secret,” later declassified under pressure of the US NGO Judicial Watch, detailed precisely the emergence of what became the Islamic State or ISIS emerging from the Islamic State in Iraq, then an Al Qaeda affiliate.

    The Pentagon document stated, “…there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist Principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition [to Assad-w.e.] want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran).” The supporting powers to the opposition in 2012 then included Qatar, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the USA and behind-the-scenes, Netanyahu’s Israel.

    Precisely this creation of a “Salafist Principality in eastern Syria,” today’s territory of ISIL or IS, was the agenda of Petraeus, General Allen and others in Washington to destroy Assad. It’s what put the Obama Administration at loggerhead with Russia, China and Iran over the bizarre US demand Assad must first go before ISIS can be destroyed. Now the game is in the open for the world to see Washington’s duplicity in backing what the Russian’s accurately call “moderate terrorists” against a duly-elected Assad. That Israel is also in the midst of this rats’ nest of opposition terrorist forces in Syria was confirmed in a recent UN report.

    What the report did not mention was why Israeli IDF military would have such a passionate interest in Syria, especially Syria’s Golan Heights.

    Why Israel wants Assad Out
    In December, 2014 the Jerusalem Post in Israel reported the findings of a largely ignored, and politically explosive report detailing UN sightings of Israeli military together with ISIS terrorist combatants. The UN peacekeeping force, UN Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF), stationed since 1974 along the Golan Heights border between Syria and Israel, revealed that Israel had been working closely with Syrian opposition terrorists, including Al Qaeda’s Al Nusra Front and IS in the Golan Heights, and “kept close contact over the past 18 months.” The report was submitted to the UN Security Council. Mainstream media in the US and West buried the explosive findings.

    The UN documents showed that the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) were maintaining regular contact with members of the so-called Islamic State since May of 2013. The IDF stated that this was only for medical care for civilians, but the deception was broken when the UNDOF observers identified direct contact between IDF forces and ISIS soldiers, including giving medical care to ISIS fighters. Observations even included the transfer of two crates from the IDF to ISIS forces, the contents of which have not been confirmed. Further the UN report identified what the Syrians label a “crossing point of forces between Israel and ISIS,” a point of concern UNDOF brought before the UN Security Council.

    The UNDOF was created by a May, 1974 UN Security Council Resolution No. 350 in the wake of tensions from the October 1973 Yom Kippur War between Syria and Israel. It established a buffer zone between Israel and Syria’s Golan Heights according to the 1974 Disengagement of Forces Agreement, to be governed and policed by the Syrian authorities. No military forces other than UNDOF are permitted within it. Today it has 1,200 observers.

    Since 2013 and the escalation of Israeli attacks on Syria along the Golan Heights, claiming pursuit of “Hezbollah terrorists,” the UNDOF itself has been subject to massive attacks by ISIS or Al Qaeda’s Al Nusra Front terrorists in the Golan Heights for the first time since 1974, of kidnappings, of killings, of theft of UN weapons and ammunition, vehicles and other assets, and the looting and destruction of facilities. Someone obviously does not want UNDOF to remain policing the Golan Heights.

    Israel and Golan Heights Oil
    In his November 9 White House meeting with US President Obama, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu asked Washington to reconsider the fact that since the 1967 Six-Days’ War between Israel and the Arab countries, Israel has illegally occupied a significant part of the Golan Heights. In their meeting, Netanyahu, apparently without success, called on Obama to back formal Israeli annexation of the illegally-occupied Golan Heights, claiming that the absence of a functioning Syrian government “allows for different thinking” concerning the future status of the strategically important area.

    Of course Netanyahu did not address in any honest way how Israeli IDF and other forces had been responsible for the absence of a functioning Syrian government by their support for ISIS and Al Nusra Front of Al Qaeda.

    In 2013, when UNDOF began to document increasing contact between Israeli military and IS and Al Qaeda along the Golan Heights, a little-known Newark, New Jersey oil company, Genie Energy, with an Israeli daughter company, Afek Oil & Gas, began also moving into Golan Heights with permission of the Netanyahu government to explore for oil. That same year Israeli military engineers overhauled the forty-five mile border fence with Syria, replacing it with a steel barricade that included barbed wire, touch sensors, motion detectors, infrared cameras, and ground radar, putting it on par with the Wall Israel has constructed in the West Bank.

    Interestingly enough, on October 8, Yuval Bartov, chief geologist from Genie Energy’s Israeli subsidiary, Afek Oil & Gas, told Israel’s Channel 2 TV that his company had found a major oil reservoir on the Golan Heights: “We’ve found an oil stratum 350 meters thick in the southern Golan Heights. On average worldwide, strata are 20 to 30 meters thick, and this is 10 times as large as that, so we are talking about significant quantities.” As I noted in an earlier article, the International Advisory Board of Genie Energy includes such notorious names as Dick Cheney, former CIA head and infamous neo-con James Woolsey, Jacob Lord Rothschild and others.

    Of course no reasonable person in their right mind would suggest there might be a link between Israeli military dealings with the ISIS and other anti-Assad terrorists in Syria, especially in the Golan Heights, and the oil find of Genie Energy in the same place, and with Netanyahu’s latest Golan Heights “rethink” appeal to Obama. That would smell too much like “conspiracy theory” and all reasonable people know conspiracies don’t exist, only coincidences. Or? In fact, to paraphrase the immortal words of Brad Pitt in the role of West Virginia First Lieutenant Aldo Raine in the final scene of Tarantino’s brilliant film, Inglorious Basterds, it seems that ‘Ol Netanyahu and his pecker-suckin pals in the IDF and Mossad just got caught with their hands in a very dirty cookie jar in Syria.

    F. William Engdahl is strategic risk consultant and lecturer, he holds a degree in politics from Princeton University and is a best-selling author on oil and geopolitics, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook”.

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    Meet The Man Who Funds ISIS: Bilal Erdogan, The Son Of Turkey's President

    ZeroHedge - Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/25/2015 22:55 -0500

    Russia's Sergey Lavrov is not one foreign minister known to mince his words. Just earlier today, 24 hours after a Russian plane was brought down by the country whose president three years ago said "a short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack", had this to say: "We have serious doubts this was an unintended incident and believe this is a planned provocation" by Turkey.

    But even that was tame compared to what Lavrov said to his Turkish counterparty Mevlut Cavusoglu earlier today during a phone call between the two (Lavrov who was supposed to travel to Turkey has since canceled such plans).

    As Sputnik transcribes, according to a press release from Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Lavrov pointed out that, "by shooting down a Russian plane on a counter-terrorist mission of the Russian Aerospace Force in Syria, and one that did not violate Turkey’s airspace, the Turkish government has in effect sided with ISIS."

    It was in this context when Lavrov added that "Turkey’s actions appear premeditated, planned, and undertaken with a specific objective."

    More importantly, Lavrov pointed to Turkey’s role in the propping up the terror network through the oil trade. Per the Russian statement:

    Quote The Russian Minister reminded his counterpart about Turkey’s involvement in the ISIS’ illegal trade in oil, which is transported via the area where the Russian plane was shot down, and about the terrorist infrastructure, arms and munitions depots and control centers that are also located there.
    Others reaffirmed Lavrov's stance, such as retired French General Dominique Trinquand, who said that "Turkey is either not fighting ISIL at all or very little, and does not interfere with different types of smuggling that takes place on its border, be it oil, phosphate, cotton or people," he said.

    The reason we find this line of questioning fascinating is that just last week in the aftermath of the French terror attack but long before the Turkish downing of the Russian jet, we wrote about "The Most Important Question About ISIS That Nobody Is Asking" in which we asked who is the one "breaching every known law of funding terrorism when buying ISIS crude, almost certainly with the tacit approval by various "western alliance" governments, and why is it that these governments have allowed said middleman to continue funding ISIS for as long as it has?"

    Precisely one week later, in even more tragic circumstances, suddenly everyone is asking this question.

    And while we patiently dig to find who the on and offshore "commodity trading" middleman are, who cart away ISIS oil to European and other international markets in exchange for hundreds of millions of dollars, one name keeps popping up as the primary culprit of regional demand for the Islamic State's "terrorist oil" - that of Turkish president Recep Erdogan's son: Bilal Erdogan.

    His very brief bio:

    Quote Necmettin Bilal Erdogan, commonly known as Bilal Erdogan (born 23 April 1980) is the third child of Recep Tayyip Erdo?an, the current President of Turkey.

    After graduating from Kartal Imam Hatip High School in 1999, Bilal Erdogan moved to the US for undergraduate education. He also earned a Masters Degree in John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University in 2004. After graduation, he served in the World Bank as intern for a while. He returned Turkey in 2006 and started to his business life. Bilal Erdogan is one of the three equal shareholders of "BMZ Group Denizcilik ", a marine transportation corporation.
    Here is a recent picture of Bilal, shown in a photo from a Turkish 2014 article, which "asked why his ships are now in Syria":



    In the next few days, we will present a full breakdown of Bilal's various business ventures, starting with his BMZ Group which is the name implicated most often in the smuggling of illegal Iraqi and Islamic State through to the western supply chain, but for now here is a brief, if very disturbing snapshot, of both father and son Erdogan by F. William Engdahl, one which should make everyone ask whether the son of Turkey's president (and thus, the father) is the silent mastermind who has been responsible for converting millions of barrels of Syrian Oil into hundreds of millions of dollars of Islamic State revenue.

    By F. William Engdahl, posted originally in New Eastern Outlook:

    Erdogan's Dirth Dangerous ISIS Games

    More and more details are coming to light revealing that the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, variously known as ISIS, IS or Daesh, is being fed and kept alive by Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish President and by his Turkish intelligence service, including MIT, the Turkish CIA. Turkey, as a result of Erdogan’s pursuit of what some call a Neo-Ottoman Empire fantasies that stretch all the way to China, Syria and Iraq, threatens not only to destroy Turkey but much of the Middle East if he continues on his present path.

    In October 2014 US Vice President Joe Biden told a Harvard gathering that Erdogan’s regime was backing ISIS with “hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of tons of weapons…” Biden later apologized clearly for tactical reasons to get Erdo?an’s permission to use Turkey’s Incirlik Air Base for airstrikes against ISIS in Syria, but the dimensions of Erdogan’s backing for ISIS since revealed is far, far more than Biden hinted.

    ISIS militants were trained by US, Israeli and now it emerges, by Turkish special forces at secret bases in Konya Province inside the Turkish border to Syria, over the past three years. Erdo?an’s involvement in ISIS goes much deeper. At a time when Washington, Saudi Arabia and even Qatar appear to have cut off their support for ISIS, they remaining amazingly durable. The reason appears to be the scale of the backing from Erdo?an and his fellow neo-Ottoman Sunni Islam Prime Minister, Ahmet Davuto?lu.

    Nice Family Business

    The prime source of money feeding ISIS these days is sale of Iraqi oil from the Mosul region oilfields where they maintain a stronghold. The son of Erdogan it seems is the man who makes the export sales of ISIS-controlled oil possible.

    Bilal Erdo?an owns several maritime companies. He has allegedly signed contracts with European operating companies to carry Iraqi stolen oil to different Asian countries. The Turkish government buys Iraqi plundered oil which is being produced from the Iraqi seized oil wells. Bilal Erdogan’s maritime companies own special wharfs in Beirut and Ceyhan ports that are transporting ISIS’ smuggled crude oil in Japan-bound oil tankers.

    Gürsel Tekin vice-president of the Turkish Republican Peoples’ Party, CHP, declared in a recent Turkish media interview, “President Erdogan claims that according to international transportation conventions there is no legal infraction concerning Bilal’s illicit activities and his son is doing an ordinary business with the registered Japanese companies, but in fact Bilal Erdo?an is up to his neck in complicity with terrorism, but as long as his father holds office he will be immune from any judicial prosecution.” Tekin adds that Bilal’s maritime company doing the oil trades for ISIS, BMZ Ltd, is “a family business and president Erdogan’s close relatives hold shares in BMZ and they misused public funds and took illicit loans from Turkish banks.”

    In addition to son Bilal’s illegal and lucrative oil trading for ISIS, Sümeyye Erdogan, the daughter of the Turkish President apparently runs a secret hospital camp inside Turkey just over the Syrian border where Turkish army trucks daily being in scores of wounded ISIS Jihadists to be patched up and sent back to wage the bloody Jihad in Syria, according to the testimony of a nurse who was recruited to work there until it was discovered she was a member of the Alawite branch of Islam, the same as Syrian President Bashar al-Assad who Erdogan seems hell-bent on toppling.

    Turkish citizen Ramazan Bagol, captured this month by Kurdish People’s Defence Units,YPG, as he attempted to join ISIS from Konya province, told his captors that said he was sent to ISIS by the ‘Ismailia Sect,’ a strict Turkish Islam sect reported to be tied to Recep Erdogan. Baol said the sect recruits members and provides logistic support to the radical Islamist organization. He added that the Sect gives jihad training in neighborhoods of Konya and sends those trained here to join ISIS gangs in Syria.

    According to French geopolitical analyst, Thierry Meyssan, Recep Erdogan “organised the pillage of Syria, dismantled all the factories in Aleppo, the economic capital, and stole the machine-tools. Similarly, he organised the theft of archeological treasures and set up an international market in Antioch…with the help of General Benoît Puga, Chief of Staff for the Elysée, he organised a false-flag operation intended to provoke the launching of a war by the Atlantic Alliance – the chemical bombing of la Ghoutta in Damascus, in August 2013. “

    Meyssan claims that the Syria strategy of Erdo?an was initially secretly developed in coordination with former French Foreign Minister Alain Juppé and Erdogan’s then Foreign Minister Ahmet Davuto?lu, in 2011, after Juppe won a hesitant Erdogan to the idea of supporting the attack on traditional Turkish ally Syria in return for a promise of French support for Turkish membership in the EU. France later backed out, leaving Erdogan to continue the Syrian bloodbath largely on his own using ISIS.

    Gen. John R. Allen, an opponent of Obama’s Iran peace strategy, now US diplomatic envoy coordinating the coalition against the Islamic State, exceeded his authorized role after meeting with Erdogan and “promised to create a "no-fly zone" ninety miles wide, over Syrian territory, along the whole border with Turkey, supposedly intended to help Syrian refugees fleeing from their government, but in reality to apply the "Juppé-Wright plan". The Turkish Prime Minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, revealed US support for the project on the TV channel A Haber by launching a bombing raid against the PKK.” Meyssan adds.

    There are never winners in war and Erdogan’s war against Syria’s Assad demonstrates that in bold. Turkey and the world deserve better. Ahmet Davutoglu’s famous “Zero Problems With Neighbors” foreign policy has been turned into massive problems with all neighbors due to the foolish ambitions of Erdogan and his gang.

    Article at ZeroHedge

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    Turkish Stream Falls Under Russia's Restrictive Measures Against Turkey

    © Sputnik/ Alexey Kudenko World 16:07 26.11.2015
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    Russia's Economic Development Minister stated that the Turkish Stream gas pipeline project falls under the restrictive measures against Turkey.


    "This project is no different from any other, we are talking about our investment cooperation [with Turkey], it is one of the most perspective investment projects, and, just like any other project, it falls under the law on special economic measures," Ulyukayev said, commenting the fate of the Turkish Stream.

    Construction on Turkish Stream was scheduled to begin in June, but was postponed pending a formal agreement. According the Russian Energy Ministry, Russia and Turkey were expected to sign the pipeline agreement no earlier than December 2015.

    The restrictions against Ankara may also include the Akkuyu Nuclear Power Plant, which is currently under construction in the southern province of Mersin in Turkey, Alexey Ulyukayev said. Russia and Turkey signed an agreement in 2010 to construct and operate Turkey’s first nuclear power plant at the Akkuyu site.

    The minister also noted that restrictions in aerial communication may include regular and charter flights.

    "Departments will soon prepare their proposals — in two to three days. The Ministry of Transport will also have suggestions. As I have said before, the law allows to limit the use of airspace and airports. Which means that limitation of both regular commercial and charter flights is possibe," he said.

    Moscow will also halt the creation of a single Turkish-Russian investment fund, Ulyukayev added.

    Earlier Thursday, Dmitry Medvedev has instructed the Russian government on Thursday to work out measures against Turkey after Tuesday's downing of a Russian military jet.

    Turkey's President Tayyip Erdogan called Kremlin's reaction to the incident is "emotional" and "unfitting of politicians". The Russian Su-24 Fencer bomber was shot down by two Turkish F-16s Tuesday morning while conducting operations over Syria, where Moscow has been targeting the self-proclaimed Islamic State terrorist group.

    Ankara claimed it downed the Russian plane because it had violated Turkish airspace. However, both the Russian General Staff and the Syrian Air Defense Command confirmed that the Su-24 was downed in Syrian airspace and never crossed into Turkey, in accordance with precise objective control data.

    One of the two Su-24 pilots was killed by fire from the ground after ejecting from the plane and a Russian naval infantry soldier was killed during a rescue operation.
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    I believe the real reason for the Syrian battle is most likely the pipelines mentioned above. Syria is strategically located between Europe and the oil rich nations in the Gulf....
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    This is bleedin ironic , I decided to have a day off from the headlines,
    and I've had a hard day at work and wanted a long soak in the bath
    and had a look for something completely different to put on in the
    back ground. This is from a couple weeks ago and the title says
    Nibiru/planet x. For the first hr Bob Fletcher talks about his past
    and knowledge of the corruption in the Whitehouse , drugs trade,
    etc and how part of what is happening now is trying to clamp down
    in preparation of the arrival of a large body coming into the solar
    system and causing global disruption.


    Ep. 350 FADE to BLACK Jimmy Church w/ Bob Fletcher: Nibiru/Planet X, LIVE on air


    Interview starts aprox 30 mins in.......You will know what I mean if you listen to it.
    As I see all the time many things we think are diverse end up being connected.

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...66#post1023666

    Published on 23 Nov 2015


    Bob Fletcher joins the show for the first time and we cover the takeover of
    his toy company by an arms dealer which led to his involvement with the
    CIA, DOD, WH and the Iran-Contra scandel...eventually this introduced him
    to different black projects an inside information with the secret space program,
    weapon systems and underground bases...the second half of the show is a
    conversation about Nibiru/Planet X and what we know...
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    Putin: Turkey 'knew downed fighter jet was Russian'

    21 minutes ago

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34940109

    Jeremy Corbyn 'cannot support UK air strikes in Syria'

    30 minutes ago

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34939109


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    ‘Short air space violation is no excuse to shoot an ally’ – fmr MI5 agent

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3s5BbSpPdg

    Published on 26 Nov 2015

    A Russian Su-24 fighter has been shot down in Syria, the Russian Defense
    Ministry said, adding the plane hadn’t violated Turkish airspace and was
    flying at an altitude of 6,000 meters.


    ================================================

    ‘Cameron’s claims on anti-ISIS airstrikes are deceit’: fmr ambassador to Syria

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E0j2gaATGQ

    Published on 26 Nov 2015


    Prime Minister David Cameron has made his case for extending UK airstrikes against
    Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) from Iraq into Syria. He has ruled out using
    British ground troops and claims disagreements with Russia are 'narrowing.'


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    Turkey should be booted out of NATO - US General

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNmDn6OGidM

    Published on 26 Nov 2015
    The downing of a Russian jet in Syria by Turkish fighters has shocked both
    Russia and NATO. And though the motives for the action are unclear, the
    incident is bound to have significant geopolitical consequences. What was
    the reasoning behind the Turkish decision to shoot down the jet, and is it
    likely to jeopardize the fragile diplomatic effort to reach a peaceful
    settlement in Syria. Oksana is joined by Paul Vallely, a retired US Army
    Major General, to sift through these issues.

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    EU politicians blast Turkey’s links to ISIS, call Erdogan’s policies dangerous

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y5f0PXAyoU

    Published on 26 Nov 2015

    Turkey's attack on the Russian bomber is the first such incident between a NATO
    country and Moscow in half a century. Across the media, there are concerns that
    relations between the Alliance and Russia could worsen and see a return to Cold
    War times.
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    Turkish newspaper editor in court for 'espionage' after revealing weapon convoy to Syrian militants

    Published time: 26 Nov, 2015 14:18
    Edited time: 27 Nov, 2015 09:18

    Video: https://www.rt.com/news/323557-turke...or-cumhuriyet/

    A Turkish prosecutor asked a court to imprison the editor-in-chief of Cumhuriyet newspaper pending trial for espionage and treason. In May, the outlet published photos of weapons it said were then transferred to Syria by Turkey’s intelligence agency.

    Besides the editor, Can Dündar, the prosecution said it is seeking the same pre-trial restrictions for Cumhuriyet’s representative in Ankara, Erdem Gül.


    Dündar arrived at an Istanbul court on Thursday, saying that he and his colleague “came here to defend journalism.”

    “We came here to defend the right of the public to obtain the news and their right to know if their government is feeding them lies. We came here to show and to prove that governments cannot engage in illegal activity and defend this,” Dündar was cited by Today’s Zaman.

    The articles, published on Cumhuriyet's front page in May, claimed that Turkey’s National Intelligence Organization (MİT) is smuggling weapons in trucks into Syria and was caught doing so twice in 2014. The trucks were allegedly stopped and searched by police, with photos and videos of their contents obtained by Cumhuriyet.

    According to the paper, the trucks were carrying six steel containers, with 1,000 artillery shells, 50,000 machine gun rounds, 30,000 heavy machine gun rounds and 1,000 mortar shells. The arms were reportedly delivered to extremist groups fighting against the Syrian government of President Bashar Assad, whom Ankara wants ousted from power.

    The Turkish authorities denied the allegations, saying that the trucks were carrying aid to Syrian ethnic Turkmen tribespeople and labeled their interception an act of “treason” and “espionage.”

    Pelin Batu, Ba Turkish TV presenter who worked alongside those who were detained, said that all they had done “was done in the interests of the country ... because our involvement in Syria needed to be brought into question.”

    “I don't think this could be judged as treacherous in any way,” Batu told RT, adding that Dundar was always a “pacifist.”

    Batu says the editor-in-chief fought for freedom of speech which has been under threat in Turkey since Erdogan took power.

    “For the last year or so the freedom of press has been axed in so many ways,” she told RT.

    A 2014 report by Human Rights Watch warned that under Erdogan’s rule Turkey has seen the erosion of human rights via a crackdown on media freedom, dissent and a weakening of the rule of law.

    Many journalists in the country are facing harsh prison terms for exposing corruption in the government and surveillance by the Turkish state.

    Egdogan’s regime has also attempted to silence social media by blocking YouTube and Twitter on a number of occasions.


    READ MORE: Turkish police raid opposition TV station ahead of election (VIDEO)

    Prior to November’s general election, Turkish police stormed the offices of opposition media group Koza Ipek.
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    And guess who told Turkey the EXACT flightplan of the Russian Fighter?


    US knew flight path of plane downed by Turkey: Putin

    https://nz.news.yahoo.com/world/a/30...-turkey-putin/


    Moscow (AFP) - President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that Russia had given prior information to the United States of the flight path of the plane downed by Turkey on the Syrian border.

    "The American side, which leads the coalition that Turkey belongs to, knew about the location and time of our planes' flights, and we were hit exactly there and at that time," Putin said at a joint press conference with French counterpart Francois Hollande in the Kremlin.

    Ahead of the Hollande talks, Putin and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan traded barbs, with the Russian leader saying he was waiting for an apology and Erdogan ruling out any such move.

    Putin on Thursday dismissed as "rubbish" Turkey's claim that it would not have shot down the jet if it had known it was Russian.

    "They [our planes] have identification signs and these are well visible," Putin said. "Instead of [...] ensuring this never happens again, we are hearing unintelligible explanations and statements that there is nothing to apologise about."

    Putin has also accused Turkey of buying oil from the Islamic State jihadist group, whose financing heavily relies on the sale of energy resources.

    Putin said there was "no doubt" that oil from "terrorist-controlled" territory in Syria was making its way across the border into Turkey.

    "We see from the sky where these vehicles [carrying oil] are going," Putin said. "They are going to Turkey day and night."

    "These barrels are not only carrying oil but also the blood of our citizens because with this money terrorists buy weapons and ammunition and then organise bloody attacks," he added.

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    And guess who told Turkey the EXACT flightplan of the Russian Fighter?

    US knew flight path of plane downed by Turkey: Putin

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    Here we go:

    What I outlined in post # 871 (also follow links to original posts) seems to finally see the light of day with Europe being stuck to Us policies via IMF pressures making Bulgaria drag their feet to give an OK for the South Stream pipeline route; then Ukraine becoming unstable on top of economical sanctions and, now Turkey being out of question for the last solution for Russian oil and gas to be distributed to Europe.

    So, Europe is now cornered for energy resources unless Russia manages to keep Syria as an ally and Europe quits wanting Bashar Al Assad out of the picture:


    Impacts of Turkey’s Aggression against Russia. The “Turkish Stream” is Dead. Disruption of Gas Pipeline Routes to the EU. Russia’s Economy in Crisis?

    By Prof Michel Chossudovsky
    Global Research, November 27, 2015




    “Regime change” in Ukraine engineered by the US State Department was largely responsible for the collapse of the “South Stream” gas pipeline project. Washington’s intent was to establish a de facto blockade which would prevent the flow of Russian gas to the European Union.

    “The South Stream gas pipeline worth €15.5 billion was intended to pump 67 billion cubic meters of Russian natural gas to Europe annually.

    The pipeline’s underwater section 900 km (559 miles) long was intended to run along the bed of the Black Sea from the Russkaya compressor station on the Russian shore to the Bulgarian coast.” (TASS, January 14, 2015)

    On December 1, 2014, President Vladimir Putin announced that the project to build the South Stream gas pipeline “was closed due to the European Union’s unconstructive approach to cooperation, including Bulgaria’s decision [pressured by the US] to stop the construction of the pipeline’s stretch on its territory.”


    South Stream Pipeline Route Options, source TASS

    The South Stream was replaced by the “Turkish Stream”. The scrapping of the South Stream was coupled with the signing in Ankara of a historic December 2014 deal between presidents Vladimir Putin and Recyyp Erdogan.

    Under the Russian-Turkish agreement pertaining to gas pipeline routes, Turkey was slated to become a major hub and transit route for the export of Russian natural gas to both Southern and Western Europe.

    Russia’s Gazprom in a historical announcement by CEO Alexey Miller in January 2015 confirmed that: The Turkish Stream gas pipeline project was considered “the sole route for Russia’s future supplies of 63 billion cubic meters of natural gas to Western Europe… The Gazprom head made this statement in response to a question about the fate of Russia’s South Stream gas pipeline project.” (Tass, January 14, 2015)


    “The [South Stream] project is closed. The Turkish Stream is the sole route, which can deliver 63 billion cubic meters of Russian natural gas. … There are no other options,” Miller said. (Ibid)



    November 24 2015: Turkey’s Act of Aggression against Russia marks the Disruption of the Turkish Stream Project

    Back in January, the Moscow-Ankara deal was considered to be a slap in the face for Washington. Today, the Turkish Stream (sponsored by Moscow) is in jeopardy.

    The downing of the SU-24 plane engineered by US-NATO has contributed to destabilizing the Russia-Turkey deal. It was by not means the only objective.

    In January following the abandonment of the South Stream, the Turkish pipeline was announced as the “sole route”.

    What next?
    Following the downing of Russia’s SU-24 plane and the collapse of diplomatic relations between Moscow and Ankara, that “sole route” is no longer there, leading not only to a potential crisis in the supply of natural gas to the European Union, but also a major blow to Russia’s national economy, which depends heavily on the energy sector.

    From the point of view of Washington, Wall Street and the Pentagon: “War is good for business”.

    The original source of this article is Global Research


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    Anyone still wondering why the troubles in Libya, Syria, Ukraine and now Turkey?
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    actually, there is a new option, Russia is closing the gap in Syria's border with #Turkey, and giving control to the Kurds.

    Kurdistan is going to have a Sea Port... Iran is a friend not under Central Bank control...



    according to Sorcha's report, Russia is sending troops to Kurdistan so Turkey will no longer be able to pound innocent civilians with air strikes.

    "November 27, 2015

    Putin Orders Complete Destruction Of Turkish President, Family And Government

    By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

    The Ministry of Defense (MoD) is reporting today that President Putin has authorized an unprecedented “asymmetric warfare” action, to include “war by proxy”, to destroy the family and government of Turkish President Recep Erdogan in retaliation for the deliberate downing of an Aerospace Forces Sukhoi Su-24M bomber aircraft on 24 November over Syria in a bid to prevent a larger war with the nation of Turkey as a whole.




    Turkish President Recep Erdogan and his son Bilal

    According to this MoD report, and as we had previously reported on, the deliberate ambushing and shoot down of this Su-24M was “directed/organized” by rogue elements operating within the Turkish government and United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) who were “partners/collaborators” in an oil-for-weapons scheme involving Islamic State terrorists operating in Syria run by Turkey’s President Erdogan’s son Bilal Erdogan.

    Bilal Erdogan, this report continues, is the silent mastermind who has been responsible for converting millions of barrels of Syrian oil controlled by Islamic State terrorists into hundreds of millions of dollars of revenue in a scheme so vast that President Putin described it as a “living oil pipeline” comprised of “vehicles, carrying oil, lined up in a chain going beyond the horizon”.

    With the money earned from this sale of the Islamic States oil, this report notes, American weapons and ammunition were then bought from the CIA and transported back into Syria by Turkey’s National Intelligence Organization (MİT) to Islamic State terrorists—which was documented and verified by the editor-in-chief of the Turkish Cumhuriyet newspaper who upon the release of this information was ordered arrested yesterday by President Erdogan on treason and espionage charges.





    With Aerospace Forces having destroyed over 1,000 fuel tankers in the week prior to 24 November carrying illegal Islamic State oil into Turkey, MoD analysts in this report state, Bilal Erdogan, along with his MIT and CIA “accomplices” then ordered the “shootdown by ambush” of Russia’s Su24-M bomber aircraft with Turkish Prime Minister, and Erdogan family ally, Ahmet Davutoglu admitting that he personally gave the order to fire on the aircraft—and which was filmed by Islamic State terrorists who knew where and when to “get that exclusive footage”, as reported by Federation Colonel-General Viktor Bondarev.





    To the Western propaganda effort to “disguise/distort” this war crime against the Federation by Turkey, this report says, it has fallen into to many absurdities to count—including the impossibility of this Su24-M being able to fly over Turkish territory at a speed at which if true it had would have fallen from the sky, and which Wikileaks stated about: “Journalists: Learn to do basic maths. Look at Turkey's statement to UN: 1.15 miles / 17 seconds x 60 x 60 = 243 miles/hour = 391 km/hour”.

    Even worse about the Western propaganda, this report notes, is an obvious Erdogan-MIT-CIA fabricated recording of the alleged warning given to the Su24-M bomber aircraft—but which Turkish authorities have informed the Russian military attache that they did not provide the media with any audio recordings of alleged radio contacts between their F-16 fighter and the downed Russian Su-24M bomber aircraft because they don’t exist.

    To President Putin’s war order against the Erdogan family and regime, this report continues, it has included the obliteration of the Islamic State forces in the area where this plane was downed and now allows Aerospace Forces to shoot down all enemy planes and objects which pose, or can pose, a threat to the serviceman of Russia in Syria.

    And as stated by President Putin to the media this morning, these measures let everyone know clearly that the next time any foreign plane tries to carry out aggression against the Russian Air Force, air base, or the military personnel of Russia in Syria—they will be, without any doubts, immediately destroyed—and the Triumph S-400 air defense missile complex wasn't just deployed to Syria for appearances.





    With Turkey now massing tanks on their border with Syria, this report continues, President Putin’s war plan against the Erdogan regime also includes the destruction of the Turkish economy and the 1 January 2016 planned suspension of visa-free travel between Russia and Turkey—and, perhaps most dangerously, the immediate deployment to the Kurdish Syrian independent region of Rojava a contingent of Spetsnaz (Special Forces) troops to aid these people in their fight against the Islamic State.

    With Turkey having bombed Kurdish fighters in Iraq and Syria 300 times and Islamic State targets only three, this report notes, the Erdogan regimes greatest fears have been revealed as being against these mainly women and girl Kurdish fighters in Rojava decimating Islamic State terrorists—and who by their success has invigorated the freedom thoughts of Turkey’s own Kurdish minority President Erdogan has vowed to destroy.

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    To if the United States would go to war against Russia to protect the Islamic State on the side of Turkey, this report concludes, it appears unlikely after the Obama regime removed all of their military forces Patriot Missiles from Turkish territory leaving that nation defenseless against Federation retaliation if needed.

    And even though not contained in this MoD report, it is worth noting that should the Obama regime engage in war with Russia over the Islamic State, the American fighters entering the battlefield have now become so weak that this past week, the elite US military academy for training officers, West Point, was forced to ban pillow fights and the students at the University of Massachusetts were provided emergency grief counseling after they inadvertently saw a Confederate Battle Flag sticker on someone’s computer. link


    this report came out right after Erdogan threatened Putin not to play with fire...

    Putin likes fire, but he isn't playing...

    click mute, audio is pretty annoying...



    Erdogan called today begging to speak with Putin, he was disconnected...
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