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    Iran protests: General declares 'sedition' defeated

    3 Jan 2018

    The head of Iran's Revolutionary Guards has declared the defeat of the
    "sedition" in the country, referring to a wave of anti-government protests.

    Maj Gen Mohammad Ali Jafari made the announcement as tens of thousands
    of people attended pro-government rallies called to counter the unrest.

    It began last Thursday in the city of Mashhad and has seen 21 people killed.

    The protests were initially against price rises and corruption, but turned to
    wider anti-government sentiment.

    read more....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-42556729

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    Iran Unrest: Protesters clash with security forces, tear gas reportedly used

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ada3DbW8ZoM

    Published on 2 Jan 2018
    At least 9 people were killed and some 100 were arrested overnight as unrest
    across Iran entered a sixth day, Iranian media said. The country’s supreme
    leader accused “enemies of Iran” of orchestrating the demonstrations.

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    Glenn Greenwald on Iran Protests: Trump Tweets “Time for Change”
    While Backing Dictators Worldwide

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqh0KgkupuA
    Published on 2 Jan 2018
    https://democracynow.org - At least 22 people are dead and hundreds have been
    arrested, as Iranian authorities move to quell the largest anti-government protests
    since 2009. President Donald Trump responded to the protests on Monday in one of
    his first tweets of the new year, writing ”TIME FOR CHANGE!” “This is the same
    president who, not more than three months ago, announced a ban on Iranians from
    coming to the United States,” says Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Glenn Greenwald.
    “He’s somebody who has aligned with the world’s worst, most savage dictators.”

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    Iran Expert Breaks Down The Current Revolution Taking Place In Persia

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV-N43Sg4Pc
    Published on 3 Jan 2018..Info wars
    Dr. Steve Pieczenik joins Alex Jones live via Skype to break down the current
    revolution and unrest taking place across Iran and the middle eastern region of the
    old Persian Empire.
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    Iran is next. Like Lybia, Syria, Crimea, Ukraine, Venezuela and so on. Regime change. THEY need and want IRAN.
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    'They tell you it's about Oil'

    in 2000, Iraq dumped the Dollar. This meant that it sold oil in Euros. The argument that this was unimportant do not make sense to me. Say they had kept the dollar. they would be sitting on an even bigger pile of dollars. They would then have to purchase assets they needed in dollars, or swap for another currency. Well, you are holding them now- the incentive is NOT to flood the market with fiat dollars- best purchase something from the USA. So yes, the petro-dollar is a 'thing'.

    IRAQI CONSTITUTION - BLUEPRINT FOR MODERN TYRANNY


    Under Iraq's post war constitution, western oil exploitation is locked in. See article 112:
    Quote The federal government, with the producing regional and governorate governments,
    shall together formulate the necessary strategic policies to develop the oil and gas
    wealth in a way that achieves the highest benefit to the Iraqi people using the most
    advanced techniques of the market principles and encouraging investment.
    What does this section mean in practise?

    The sentence is structured so that achieving the highest benefit to the Iraqi people is subordinated to the imperative to 'use the most advanced techniques of the market principles and encouraging investment'.
    Badly written but what it produces is an imperative for the Government to observe 'market principles' to 'encourage investment'.

    The effect of this is that the Government is obliged by the Constitution to use the free market only to establish who invests in oil extraction. Furthermore, they are obliged to deal with the Company that offers the greatest investment. This practically means that the largest oil companies, with the best, most modern , and COSTLY equipment go straight to the top of the list. These criteria are fixed. There is no room for the second tier operators that were there before the war. There is certainly no opportunity within the constitution as it stands for the Iraqi government to start developing indigenous extraction technology, or companies. There is no opportunity for them to 'do a Norway' and set up a publicly owned local oil production company - that could be taxed however the people decide. Of course, once the big boys are invested, they have the muscle to demand a lenient tax regime - as they have invested. It is clever, and it does not achieve the highest benefit for the Iraqi people in the long term.

    So, yes, the oil does matter. Wherever a country has the temerity to try to exploit ITS OWN WEALTH for ITS OWN BENEFIT you start hearing about 'dictators' and 'atrocities'. This is part of why Iran will be next.

    The western corrupt complex appears to require the following:

    a) Destabilise the nation indefinitely, inflame latent sectarian tension, false flag terror, to achieve constant low level conflict- this way, the dollars go on weapons, the military has to stay, the people remain co-opted.
    b) The above tyranny ensures on-going Petro-Dollar dominance, and western Corporate Plunder and profits
    c) Division and emnity within the Islamic world keep Israel in its dominant position
    d) The conflict feeds poverty, and social problems. This leads to radicalisation which serves the above aims but also has the potential to immerse Russia & China in strife to their south.

    When was the control agenda NOT dark?
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    'They tell you it's about Oil'

    in 2000, Iraq dumped the Dollar. This meant that it sold oil in Euros. The argument that this was unimportant do not make sense to me. Say they had kept the dollar. they would be sitting on an even bigger pile of dollars. They would then have to purchase assets they needed in dollars, or swap for another currency. Well, you are holding them now- the incentive is NOT to flood the market with fiat dollars- best purchase something from the USA. So yes, the petro-dollar is a 'thing'.

    IRAQI CONSTITUTION - BLUEPRINT FOR MODERN TYRANNY


    Under Iraq's post war constitution, western oil exploitation is locked in. See article 112:
    Quote The federal government, with the producing regional and governorate governments,
    shall together formulate the necessary strategic policies to develop the oil and gas
    wealth in a way that achieves the highest benefit to the Iraqi people using the most
    advanced techniques of the market principles and encouraging investment.
    What does this section mean in practise?

    The sentence is structured so that achieving the highest benefit to the Iraqi people is subordinated to the imperative to 'use the most advanced techniques of the market principles and encouraging investment'.
    Badly written but what it produces is an imperative for the Government to observe 'market principles' to 'encourage investment'.

    The effect of this is that the Government is obliged by the Constitution to use the free market only to establish who invests in oil extraction. Furthermore, they are obliged to deal with the Company that offers the greatest investment. This practically means that the largest oil companies, with the best, most modern , and COSTLY equipment go straight to the top of the list. These criteria are fixed. There is no room for the second tier operators that were there before the war. There is certainly no opportunity within the constitution as it stands for the Iraqi government to start developing indigenous extraction technology, or companies. There is no opportunity for them to 'do a Norway' and set up a publicly owned local oil production company - that could be taxed however the people decide. Of course, once the big boys are invested, they have the muscle to demand a lenient tax regime - as they have invested. It is clever, and it does not achieve the highest benefit for the Iraqi people in the long term.

    So, yes, the oil does matter. Wherever a county has the temerity to try to exploit ITS OWN WEALTH for ITS OWN BENEFIT you start hearing about 'dictators' and 'atrocities'. This is part of why Iran will be next.

    The western corrupt complex appears to require the following:

    a) Destabilise the nation indefinitely, inflame latent sectarian tension, false flag terror, to achieve constant low level conflict- this way, the dollars go on weapons, the military has to stay, the people remain co-opted.
    b) The above tyranny ensures on-going Petro-Dollar dominance, and western Corporate Plunder and profits
    c) Division and emnity within the Islamic world keep Israel in its dominant position
    d) The conflict feeds poverty, and social problems. This leads to radicalisation which serves the above aims but also has the potential to immerse Russia & China in strife to their south.

    When was the control agenda NOT dark?
    You start HEARING. Do you know the sources of these rumours? Did you hear it for yourself? Are you being told what to hear? Have you seen this done before in other countries? How are those countried today comparatively? How is Lybia today compared to when Gaddafi was IN? How is Syria today? How is Venezuela? What atrocities are we speaking of exactly? Before during or after regime change? What did you HEAR about those countries? What do you actually KNOW? What have you been TOLD? Do you KNOW who's narrative you are listening too? Or did you HEAR about this narrative? Where did you HEAR it?

    I don't mean ro be rude. But all you have said is what you have heard and what you have been told. What do you KNOW?


    Oil is a tool used for control. It is NOT the purpose of the control. It is a narrative giving to YOU. As you have been TOLD and as you have HEARD.

    Just to help you out

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/libya-...o-know/5414289

    That is just a small taste of what Gaddafi the tyrant murdering psychopath did and was doing for the PEOPLE. Before people started HEARING, and were being TOLD and manipulated as per usual into the NARRATIVE. How is Lybia today?

    You only HEAR and are TOLD. You must look past that.
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    Quote Iran is next. Like Lybia, Syria, Crimea, Ukraine, Venezuela and so on. Regime change. THEY need and want IRAN.
    This is a continuation of the globalist neo-con/dem agenda as per
    Gen Wesley Clark Reveals US Plan To Invade Iraq, Syria, Lebanon,
    Lybia, Somalia, Sudan, And Iran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8YtF76s-yM

    Going back to Brzezinski and others escalating after the fall of the
    Soviet union leading to the 9/11 coup in the US.Most things are
    connected in the political world and the sudden conversion of Lindsey
    Graham on the road to Damascus so to speak , makes me worried
    they are happy with Trumps war rhetoric .....


    A post from another thread that got onto this topic....


    Re: Wow ! ...Richard Dolan on CBS News......Secret Pentagon UFO program unveiled 28/12/17

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1199061
    Quote This scares the bejeus out of me"

    you and me both (and I'm sure all readers)-
    Larry
    Happy New Year every one , I agree this is not the end by a long way and
    to quote another flawed anglo US/UK PM......




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    To quote myself I just saw a couple of news items that on their own will
    not mean a lot to most unless you are connecting geo - political dots as
    well as possible UFO disclosure ....

    Quote Plans change with these war games of the elites and although
    Trump was/is a maverick even they can be controlled and broken....Just a
    thought....
    I have had the impression the elites have been impressed with Trumps first year all
    in all so far and being surrounded by military advisors has relieved the neo -
    con/dem arm of politics in the US particularly over Israel and spending billions of $
    on defence which is part of the elites power base .

    There have been many signs for me from articles I posted on the Russiagate ,
    WW111 threads and others . Lidnsey Graham suddenly becoming a Trump convert
    tells me that the Donald may have won support with the globalists after their girl
    Hillary losing looked like setting them back a little , which it has because if she had
    won the US would have probably invaded Syria and been even more threatening
    to Russia over the Ukraine. But probably not North Korea and Iran who Obama's
    administration were keeping quite while they sorted out the Middle East for Israel
    and brought the Ukraine closer to NATO as it is the historical home of the Kazars
    and their zionist connections.....


    Something is changing behind the scene and in plain sight if you read between
    the lines. Graham works closely with the dems and don't forget he was hand in
    hand with sen McCain. Only a year ago they were the Ukraine promising to drum
    up support and help them fight Putin and they are both neo -cons but with
    sen McCain ill and likely to retire Graham needs new allies and Trump maybe
    his unlikely target and ally through the Donald's military aids in the White house.

    GOP Senators McCain and Lindsey Graham foment war with Russia!

    President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko with US Senators John McCain and Lindey
    Graham, in Shyrokino, Ukraine, Dec 2016.

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    John McCain Makes Secret Syria Trip, Crosses Borders to Speak With Rebels
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbfsTcJCKDE
    Published on 28 May 2013
    Arizona senator secretly crossed the border to meet with rebels trying to
    overthrow the Assad Regime.

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    What a difference a year make , something is happening behind the scenes with
    Trump also saying in a tweet recently Mueller will be fair. For sen Graham to
    suddenly be on board with Trump the Donald has either wittingly or unwittingly
    signed a pact with globalist neo-con/dems. Have they broken the maverick ?
    Or is this just Trump dealing with the Devil ? ( The art of the deal)...Uhmm!!

    Sen. Graham talks anti-Trump dossier, DACA negotiations



    Published on 29 Dec 2017
    Republican senator from South Carolina weighs in on Special Counsel Robert
    Mueller's ongoing Russia investigation and efforts to reform U.S. immigration.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1199061

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    https://youtu.be/vnRjGYaqvIM

    The students of Venezuela.

    Dont get lost.
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    Quote Posted by FreeURmind (here)
    Quote Posted by Baby Steps (here)
    So, yes, the oil does matter. Wherever a county has the temerity to try to exploit ITS OWN WEALTH for ITS OWN BENEFIT you start hearing about 'dictators' and 'atrocities'. This is part of why Iran will be next.
    You start HEARING. Do you know the sources of these rumours? Did you hear it for yourself? Are you being told what to hear?
    ...
    You only HEAR and are TOLD. You must look past that.
    My hunch, FreeURmind, is that you misread Baby Steps.

    Pretend for a minute that Baby Steps had written instead:
    Quote So, yes, the oil does matter. Wherever a county has the temerity to try to exploit ITS OWN WEALTH for ITS OWN BENEFIT, the western corrupt complex starts telling us about 'dictators' and 'atrocities'. This is part of why Iran will be next.
    In that case, I suspect that Baby Steps would have thought that he had written the same thought, but that you would responded as if he had written something different.
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    Quote Iran is next. Like Lybia, Syria, Crimea, Ukraine, Venezuela and so on. Regime change. THEY need and want IRAN.
    Here's a couple reports that the people who come on this thread ought to have a listen to... Iran is not next.
    The cabal, the Deep State, the Illuminati... or whatever other name you have for these criminals - their game is over. They're running on empty...
    Re: IRAN

    The Cabal Didn't Expect This To Happen,
    Next Event Locked And Loaded - Episode 1462b

    (Jan 3, 2018)


    VIDEO

    https://youtu.be/BUvnGQ_59gk?t=10m6s

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    I'll let all of you know that the attempted
    Color Revolution in #IranProtests aka
    #ChickenEggRevolution is thankfully like
    Syria, Ukraine and other Globalist initiatives
    an abject failure. Langley when will you learn?
    #DeepState #NotOurFight #NotOurProblem


    9:36 AM - 3 Jan 2018

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    (01/02/2018)


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    https://youtu.be/xq7bVu3zeJQ?t=1m43s
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    China knows its BS....
    China Orders Media To Stop Reporting Iran Unrest, Desires Stability For Massive Investments -- ZeroHedge



    China inked deals worth tens of billions with Iran from the moment sanctions were lifted, and now Beijing has ordered domestic news coverage of Iran protests to cease.
    • Jan 4, 2018 5:58 AM
    I will give you this much.... that the war between the Deep State & Donald Trump is not over... (paraphrasing Roger Stone)
    The Deep State's Plan 'C' - Murder Donald Trump? -- ZeroHedge



    Plan A: Russian Collusion; Plan B: 25th Amendment; ..."We know Plan C. We saw it in the case of JFK..."
    • Jan 3, 2018 10:30 PM
    • Longtime Donald Trump advisor and confidante Roger Stone is warning once again about the deep state. This time, he said that the deep state’s “plan C” is to simply murder the president, since plans A and B won’t work out.
    • Last but not least, though, Stone warned of “Plan C,” which is killing the president.
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    Iran's riot wave comes to an end?

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    Amidst big pro-government demonstrations yesterday the authorities are claiming that the protest wave which began in the Mashhad on 28th December 2017 has ended, and that quiet has returned to Iran's towns and cities.

    It is not always easy to verify information coming from Iran, not so much because the government seeks to suppress information but because the flow of information from Iran is so intensely politicised.

    This together with the relative absence of independent reporters on the ground makes it sometimes difficult to form a view of what is actually going on.

    However the government's claim that the protest wave has ended does seem to correspond with information coming from Iran, which suggests that the protests are in the main over.

    Assuming that this information is true - as seems likely - what general conclusions about the protest wave can be drawn?
    (1) The Iranian authorities claim that the total number of people involved in the protests was 15,000 across the whole of Iran.
    SOTT Comment: Interior Minister Abdolreza Rahmani Fazli gave a higher number today:
    "Speaking on the ground of the precise figures provided by the relevant agencies, [I can say that] not more than 42,000 people have participated in the protests and it was not too much," Fazli said, as quoted by the ISNA news agency, adding that protests similar to the Iranian ones take place in all the countries across the globe.
    There is no independent corroboration for this figure, but the overall impression is that the protests were scattered and small, making it likely that it is true.

    The fact that there has been considerable violence during the protests with twenty or more people killed tends to bear this out.

    Whilst this is not a hard and fast rule, it is generally the case that violence increases the smaller the protests become as the more militant and violent protesters are no longer restrained by the peaceful majority of protesters.

    Needless to say the more violent the protests become, the more likely it is that the great majority of people who might be willing to join peaceful protests will be scared off doing so and will stay away.

    The result is that as the violence escalates, the size of the protests diminishes, until eventually they either fizzle out or are suppressed.

    The fact that there was an escalation of violence in the last days of the protests, and the fact that they took place mainly at night, seems to conform to this pattern, and suggests that the authorities are right in saying that what began in Mashhad on 28th December 2017 as a peaceful protest about economic conditions over the course of the following days degenerated into simple rioting.

    Needless to say if the total number of protesters was no more than 15,000 then the claims by Donald Trump, Nikki Haley, other US officials, the EU, and Western commentators, that Iran - a nation of 80 million people - was facing a massive protest wave were simply wrong.

    (2) The fact that the rioting spread to various small provincial towns across Iran suggests a degree of coordination amongst the rioters but the extent of this should not be exaggerated.

    It is not unusual for rioters - and the criminal elements which invariably rise to the surface during riots - to communicate and coordinate with each other, and social media platforms like Telegram nowadays make that very easy.

    (3) Was there any larger involvement by outsiders in the riots as has been widely claimed, including by the Iranian authorities themselves?

    On 31st December 2017 the US based but often well-informed internet publication Al-Monitor had this to say about the use of Telegram to coordinate the riots
    It is also becoming clear that the key mode of mobilization is the popular smartphone app Telegram, which has some 40 million users in Iran. Al-Monitor has previously closely covered the popularity of Telegram, how the authorities have sought to control its spread and how it has changed Iranian media. In April, the Supreme Council of Cyberspace in Iran required administrators of channels with more than 5,000 followers to register with the Ministry of Culture and Islamic Guidance. The move followed crackdowns on administrators of Reformist channels ahead of the May 2017 presidential elections. President Hassan Rouhani, allied with the Reformist camp, easily won a second term in those elections.

    Amad News, a channel on Telegram, appears to have played a pivotal role in the wave of protests. Reportedly administered by exiled journalist Rohollah Zam - a son of a senior Reformist cleric said to have escaped the country after being accused of having links with foreign intelligence agencies - the channel had just under a million followers on the eve of the protests. This number ballooned before Minister of Information Technology and Communications Mohammad Jahromi on Dec. 30 successfully requested that Telegram founder Pavel Durov shut down Amad News on account of its reported incitement of violence. Remarkably, the Iranian request was made publicly on Twitter, a medium that remains filtered in the country. Mirror channels that emerged following the shutdown of Amad News also were closed, though one mirror site was functioning and had close to 900,000 followers as of this writing. In addition, the Iranian authorities have apparently moved to restrict mobile data services in some areas, although broadband appears to be functioning. Moreover, Telegram and Instagram, which have both been unfiltered in Iran thus far, are said to have been "temporarily" filtered in some regions.

    While the method of mobilization is becoming clear, it is still unknown who, if any person or group, is leading the protests. The absence of a discernible leader has left the authorities unable to point the finger, such as in 2009, beyond the usual accusations blaming foreign intelligence services and hostile states. The speed of the geographical spread of the protests along with the apparent lack of a leader has, according to some accounts, even left some protesters puzzled, let alone most political observers. This could provide an opportunity for a variety of groups to hijack the protests.
    Rohollah Zam, the exiled journalist referred to in this passage, has been repudiated by his father, the reformist cleric Mohammad Ali Zam because of his criticism of Grand Ayatollah Khamenei, Iran's Supreme Leader.

    I have not been able to find out which foreign intelligence agency the Iranian authorities accuse him of involvement with.

    However it is clear from their statements over the last few days that the foreign intelligence agency which the Iranian authorities believe had a hand in the riots was Saudi intelligence, not the intelligence agencies of the US and Israel.

    Assuming that a foreign intelligence agency was involved in the riots, as is at some level likely - the chanting of political slogans during some of the riots after all strongly suggests it - and assuming that the riots really were intended to prepare the ground for a Maidan style protest movement which would eventually bring about regime change, then the small number of protesters - just 15,000 across the whole country - means that the intelligence agency in question has little to show for its efforts.

    Clearly Iran is not ripe for a Maidan style colour revolution. Though there is widespread dissatisfaction with the government, there appears to be little support in the country for regime change, and the legitimacy of Iran's Islamic Republic is not widely disputed.

    (4) As for the trigger for the original largely peaceful protest on 28th December 2017 in Mashhad, it is now clear that this was not the sudden one-off increase in egg and poultry prices as has been widely reported, but the Rouhani government's proposed budget, which proposes large cuts in subsidies in order to release budget funds for infrastructure development.

    Many poorer Iranians have come to depend on these subsidies, and like the monetisation of pensioner benefits in Russia - which in 2005 triggered what remains by far the biggest protest wave Russia has witnessed during the Putin era, dwarfing in scale the election protests of 2011-2012 - the cutting of these subsidies in Iran is deeply unpopular however much economic sense Rouhani's liberal economic advisers say it makes.

    (5) A further factor which some are suggesting may lie behind the protests - mentioned in conversations some Iranian acquaintances have had with me - is the difficulty young people in Iran are having finding jobs that match their qualifications.

    The Iranian economy, despite its recent growth, is struggling to find jobs for the one million young Iranians who are joining the workforce every year.

    Though unemployment in Iran is average for its region, heavy investment in education since the Iranian Revolution makes the younger generation of Iranians better educated than ever before and unusually well-educated for the region.

    Inevitably this high education level increases expectations, and leads to anger and disappointment when conditions in the economy mean that these expectations cannot be fulfilled.

    One particular point I have heard several people make is that Iran is currently experiencing a demographic bulge caused by the Iranian government's previous encouragement of a high birth rate in order to replace the heavy manpower losses Iran suffered during the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s.

    That policy has now been reversed, causing the birth rate to fall - Iran is unusual in this region in having both demographic and family planning policies - but in the meantime it has led to a large increase in the number of young people coming of age now, which has put Iran's social and educational services under severe strain, as well as making it difficult for the economy to provide them all with jobs.

    The one observation I would make about this claim is however that whilst accounts of the rioters make it clear that they are overwhelmingly young men - as is always the case in riots - they do not seem to be the sort of educated young men that are being talked about in these accounts.

    On the contrary they seem to be the less educated young men coming from economically poorer backgrounds who form the majority of rioters - and of the criminal class - in all countries.

    Perhaps there is a wider dissatisfaction with their social and economic conditions amongst Iran's young people which provides the background for the riots. However I would want to see much more evidence for this than I have seen so far before I accepted it.

    (6) The fact that the economy is growing despite all the problems is nonetheless probably the reason why the protests and the riots have not spread to any significant degree to the big urban centres such as Tehran and Tabriz.

    Though living standards are still well below their pre-recession levels, most urban Iranians have experienced some improvement in their lives in the last two years, and this has almost certainly taken some of the edge off the discontent.

    This together with the heavier policing to be expected in large urban centres means that the protests and the rioting have not spread there.
    In summary, it seems that what Iran has experienced has been less a protest wave and more a riot wave, though the rioting was triggered by what were initially genuine economic protests caused by worries about the government's pending budget.

    Riots happen in many countries. In the US and Britain (especially in England) they are a common occurrence.

    In England the spread of rioting across provincial towns is a relatively frequent occurrence, and during the last big riot wave in 2011 the use of social media by rioters to coordinate their actions across the country was widely in evidence, just as it has been during the recent riots in Iran.

    As in Iran the reasons for the rioting that regularly takes place in English provincial towns is widely discussed, especially in academic circles, but no firm consensus has ever been reached about it.

    The key point is that, whatever the cause of rioting and wherever it happens, precisely because rioting is a form of criminal activity, it is not usually considered to have any wider political significance.

    What is known about the riots in Iran suggest that they are no different.

    The fact that the riots in Iran have been reported by some people differently as suggesting some sort of imminent revolution looks for the moment to be more a product of wishful thinking than a true assessment of what has been actually going on.

    As for Nikki Haley's attempt to get no less a body than the UN Security Council to debate the riots, that is just silly.


    Related:
    US seeks emergency UN meeting on Iran protests - Russia reminds them about Ferguson and Occupy

    Trump talks of overthrowing Iran and suddenly the mainstream media loves him

    These are some of the fake images of 'Iran' being shared on social media

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    Quote Posted by FreeURmind (here)

    If you are saying it's "staged" unrest. Like every other country. Couldn't agree more. That is what I was stating in my previous posts.

    The Trump/Deep State stuff. Still observing.
    Except for this rather significant difference ==> Trump vs Deep State stuff. Keep watching.

    The Sirius Report: With London Paul
    (01/02/2018)


    VIDEO


    @ 13:40

    London Paul: Trump is not there to be a conventional president. And to a large extent he's still standing as president. And now, he's effectively nearly completed a year since his inauguration last January.

    And this is something kind of interesting - the whole kind of 'Russia-gate' - the Russia-phobic attitude - and there's all kinds of people foaming at mouth about the investigation. And how "Mueller has to get there, so we got to get rid of him."

    Well, there's no need to [get rid of Mueller] - its pointless - just let Mueller do what he's doing, because the entire Russian... sort of... nonsensical story doing the rounds in Washington was a well-engineered Trojan Horse that was allowed to happen. And, the Russians are quite happy for its happened, and Trump was.

    Why? Because it was the only way to bring down the cabal. And its proved to be the point, because all these investigations are doing is highlighting the very people that have done all the things that they shouldn't have been doing.

    So, its a brilliant strategy - its damaged the cabal, its destroying the credibility of the Democrats, its wrecked the people's perception of the Main Stream Media (MSM). And they all took the bait without knowing it would be their un-doing.

    So, Trump doesn't need to sit there & stop the investigations, and just let these people destroy themselves & destroy the credibility of the Democratic Party in the process. The Main Stream Media & the cabal is getting a bloody nose in the process. Because, all the things they've been doing under the guise of the Clinton Foundation & whatever other organizations that they've been using.

    Its all coming out, now. And this 'house-cleaning' is going to have consequences in the U.S. - and we can go on in a bit more detail about this in a second - but its also having a global effect. This is how they're not going to affect Saudi Arabia, in the Middle East, its not going to affect Europe, Africa, Asia, Latin America...

    And its absolutely going to blow peoples' minds who don't know anything about this. And, I think we'll see much, much more of this unfolding in 2018, as this entire cabal network is being taken out. And this is the whole basis of this swamp - kind of, cess pit draining.

    Now, these indictments - there are thousands, or just over 10,000, or whatever... Now, what's interesting, some of the documentation involving individual people in these indictments actually are tens of thousands of pages...
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    And more... this one from Patrick Armstrong via The Strategic Culture Foundation...


    Trump Cuts The Gordian Knot Of Foreign Entanglements


    by Tyler Durden
    Fri, 01/05/2018 - 22:25

    Authored by Patrick Armstrong via The Strategic Culture Foundation,
    President Trump is a new phenomenon on the American political scene.



    Not a professional politician begging for funds but a rich man who spent his own money and raised money on his own name: he arrived in office unencumbered with obligations. Free from a history in politics, he owes nothing to anyone. Add in his personality, grandiosity and late-night tweets and the punditocracy is in a state of angry incomprehension. Even more offensive to their notions of propriety is that this "dangerously incompetent", unqualified, mentally ill man beat the "most qualified presidential candidate in history". No wonder so many of them believe that only cunning Putin could have made it happen – even if they don't know how. But the punditocracy is as befuddled about him today as it was last year and the year before. (Scott Adams, who got it right, reminds us just how clueless they were.) The very fact that Trump won despite the opposition of practically every established constituency in the United States shows that there is more to him than readers of the NYT and WaPo or watchers of CNN and MSNBC (can) understand.

    What follows is an attempt to divine Trump's foreign policy. It proceeds from the assumption that he does know what he's doing (as he did when he decided to run in the first place) and that he does have a destination in mind. It proceeds with the understanding that his foreign policy intentions have been greatly retarded by the (completely false) allegations of Russia connections and Russian interference. There was no Russian state interference in the election (the likelihood is that Moscow would have preferred known Clinton) and, as I have written here, the story doesn't even make sense. I expect when the Department of Justice Inspector General completes his report that the Russiagate farrago will be revealed as a conspiracy inside the US security organs. We do not have a date yet, but mid-January is suggested. Readers who want to follow the story are recommended to these websites: Dystopiausa, CTH and Zerohedge.

    We start with four remarks Trump often made while campaigning. Everyone would be better off had President Bush taken a day at the beach rather than invade Iraq. The "six trillion dollars" spent in the Middle East would have been better spent on infrastructure in the USA. NATO is obsolete and the USA pays a disproportionate share. It would better to get along with Russia than not.

    To the neocon and humanitarian intervention crowd, who have been driving US foreign policy for most of the century, these four points, when properly understood (as, at some level, they do understand them), are a fatal challenge. Trump is saying that
    1) the post 911 military interventions did nothing for the country's security;
    2) foreign interventions impoverish the country;
    3) the alliance system is neither useful nor a good deal for the country;
    4) Russia is not the once and future enemy.
    A Chinese leader might call these the Three Noes (no regime change wars, no overseas adventures, no entangling alliances) and the One Yes (cooperation with Russia and other powers).
    Which brings us to his slogan of Make America Great Again. We notice his campaign themes of job loss, opiates, lawlessness, infrastructure, illegal immigration, the stranglehold of regulations, the "swamp", the indifference of the mighty, the death of the "American Dream". None of these can be made better by overseas interventions, carrier battle groups or foreign bases. But they can be made worse by them. There is every reason to expect that by MAGA he means internal prosperity and not external might. Trump has little interest in the obsessions of the neocon and humanitarian intervention crowd. "We need a leader that can bring back our jobs, can bring back our manufacturing, can bring back our military – can take care of our vets... The fact is, the American Dream is dead." No foreign adventures there. So, in summary, Trump's foreign policy of Three Noes and One Yes is a necessary part of making America "great" again.

    If I am correct in this and this is indeed his aim, how can he do it?
    There is a powerful opposition in the United States to the Three Noes and One Yes. And it's not just from the neocon/humanitarian interventionists: most Americans have been conditioned to believe that the USA must be the world's policeman, arbiter, referee, example. Perhaps it's rooted in the City on a Hill exceptionalism of the early dissenter settlers, perhaps it's a legacy of the reality of 1945, perhaps it's just the effect of unremitting propaganda, but most Americans believe that the USA has an obligation to lead. Gallup informs us that, in this century, well over half of the population has agreed that the USA should play the leading or a major role in the world. The percentage in the punditocracy believing the USA must lead would be even higher.

    Interventionists are becoming aware that they do not have a soulmate in the White House and they're wagging their rhetorical fingers. "The fact is, though, that there is no alternative great power willing and able to step in". "If nations in the South China Sea lose confidence in the United States to serve as the principal regional security guarantor, they could embark on costly and potentially destabilizing arms buildups to compensate or, alternatively, become more accommodating to the demands of a powerful China" warns the intervention-friendly Council on Foreign Relations. The US has an obligation to lead in North Korea. It must lead for "Middle East progress". A former NATO GenSek proclaims the US must lead. "US should be the great force for peace and justice globally". "The absence of American leadership has certainly not caused all the instability, but it has encouraged and exacerbated it."

    The ur-neocon tells us that America must lead. Chaos is the alternative. Must resume (resume??!!) its imperial role (which apparently means even more military expenditure lest its military lead be lost). Innumerable more examples calling on the US to lead something/somewhere everything/everywhere can easily be found: it would be much more difficult to find one pundit advising the US to keep out of a problem somewhere than find twenty urging it to lead.

    If I have understood him right, what would Trump see if he read this stuff? Lead, lead, lead... everything everywhere. The South China Sea, the Middle East and North Korea specifically but everywhere else too. More infrastructure repairs foregone so as to ensure what?... That ships carrying goods to and from China safely transit the South China Sea? "Friendly" governments installed in "Kyrzbekistan"? Soldiers killed in countries not even lawmakers knew they were in? 40,000 troops out there somewhere? Trying to double the Soviet record for being stuck in Afghanistan? How many bridges, factories or lives is that worth? Trump sees more entanglements but he sees no benefit. He's a businessman: he can see the expense but where's the profit?

    How to get out of these entanglements? It's too late to hope to persuade the legions bleating that "America must lead" and, even if they could be persuaded, there isn't enough time to do so: they salivate when the bell rings. President Trump can avoid new entanglements but he has inherited so many and they are, all of them, growing denser and thicker by the minute. Consider the famous story of the Gordian Knot: rather than trying to untie the fabulously complicated knot, Alexander drew his sword and cut it. How can Trump cut The Gordian Knot of American imperial entanglements?

    By getting others to untie it.
    He walks out of the Paris Agreement ("a watershed moment when it comes to debating America’s role in the world"). And the TPP ("opened the door toward greater Chinese influence, and won’t benefit the U.S. economy in the slightest"). His blustering on Iran caused the German Foreign Minister to express doubts about American leadership. He brusquely tells NATO allies to pay their own way ("America’s NATO allies may be on their own after November if Russia attacks them"). By announcing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel he unites practically everybody against Washington and then uses that excuse to cut money to the UN. His trash talk on North Korea has actually started the first debate about the utility of military force we've seen for fifteen years. He pulls out of Syria (quietly and too slowly but watch what he doesn't talk about). One last try in Afghanistan and then out. Re-negotiate all the trade deals to US benefit or walk away. Be disrespectful of all sorts of conventions and do your best to alienate allies so they start to cut the ties themselves (his tweet on the UK was especially effective). Attack the media which is part of the machinery of entanglement. Confiscate assets. It's a species of tough love – rudely and brusquely delivered. He (presumably) glories in opinion polls that show respect for the USA as a world leader slipping. He doesn't care whether they like him or not – America first and leave the others to it.

    The Three Noes and One Yes policy will be achieved by others: others who realise that the USA is no longer going to lead and they will have to lead themselves. Or not. Perhaps, as the neocons love to say, US leadership was necessary in the immediate postwar situation, perhaps NATO served a stabilising purpose then but there has been nothing stabilising about US leadership in this century. Endless wars and destruction and chaos and loss. Thus abroad and – the part that Trump cares about – so at home. It's not incompetence, as the people who fail Adams' test tell themselves; it's a strategy.

    (All real theories must be falsifiable; let's see in a year's time whether the US is more entangled or less entangled. It should be pretty apparent by then and, by the end of Trump's first term, obvious to all.)

    ZeroHedge

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    Zaq is back with new disclosures ...... Spectre Bug, Zuma payload, North Korea ,
    Bannon , Kwok , Q anon which he seems to claim to be part of and it is under five
    people and more...

    Elon Musk and Julian Assange are good guys and he may be free by next week....

    High Level Intelligence Source Unloads Deep State Secrets: Must See Full Interview


    Published on 5 Jan 2018
    Alex Jones talks with Infowars source Zaq regarding the Deep State as well as the globalist's plans.

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    Lionel must of watched the Alex segment above as he is commenting on everything
    discussed by Zaq and Alex......

    #Spectre #Kwok #Bannon | #Huma Indicted | #QAnon8chan | #SpaceX #Falcon9
    #Zuma #Area59 #NoKo #EMP

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhahqDnOekk

    Published on 6 Jan 2018
    What we are engaged in, fellow conspiratorium clerisy, is a battle for the truth. A
    most embarrassing and upending truth. Whilst MSM usuals plumb the not-so-deep
    depths of Bannon pap, we go deep and further. “Enlighten the people generally,
    and tyranny and oppressions of the body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the
    dawn of day," spake Thos. Jefferson. Hie!

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    It still feels odd Graham supporting Trump.....( except on Russia )


    Lindsey Graham (Jan 05, 2018) - Defends Trump Atttack on CNN on CNN GOP Doesn't 'Trust'

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBz2XrD6y50
    Published on 4 Jan 2018
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    The first stage is complete and as Zaq says above Zuma is in orbit and the
    return to earth of the Falcon 9 rocket....

    SpaceX launches mysterious payload that lights up evening sky



    Published on 7 Jan 2018
    SpaceX launched a Falcon 9 rocket carrying a mysterious government satellite known
    as "Zuma" Sunday, lighting up the night sky as the booster climbed toward space and
    then lighting it up again a few moments later as its reusable first stage descended on
    a jet of flame to a pinpoint touchdown.

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    War goes on in Syria as pro-govt military clashes with opposition troops near Damascus

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7ov2BKLsrw
    Published on 8 Jan 2018
    Pro-Syrian Government military media have released a video purporting to show
    fighting on Sunday between the Syrian army and opposition groups of Jeish Al-
    Islam in the Harasta neighbourhood near Damascus.
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    France's former Foreign Minister: UK Government prepared war in Syria two years before 2011 protests

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    French foreign minister in the 1980s, Roland Dumas.

    Former French Foreign Minister Roland Dumas stated in a 2013 televised program on French media (LCP) that British government officials had told him about preparations for "sending rebels into Syria" two years prior to the start of the 2011 "protests" and conflict.

    Dumas makes it clear that it is Assad's anti-Israel stance that has made him a target for Western-backed "regime change". The fact that over 200,000 Syrian civilians have been killed in the process appears to be of little consequence to Western politicians.

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    In 2010 it was already known that a war with potential devastation and consequences was going to happen in Syria but I didn't know although I would assume that it went as far back as 2009. Warmongers is the word that come to mind. There is no democracy in pretty much any country in the earth, only a faint illusion of it.

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    The Trump presidency so far has been very good
    for the mil ind complex and now the 'spooks' are happy...

    This is part of the reason Trump is safe from impeachment
    unless something comes out of the woodwork. If the mil
    Deep state think Trump will not interfere with them and
    with all the mil top 'Brass' in his cabinet he is leaving
    that part of the swamp well alone....


    House passes controversial surveillance bill


    Published on 11 Jan 2018

    After President Donald Trump criticized the government's surveillance program,
    the House of Representatives narrowly passed legislation reauthorizing the
    Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which is a key tool of the U.S. intelligence community.

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    Iran nuclear deal: European powers urge US not to withdraw

    Boris Johnson on Iran nuclear deal: 'I don't think anybody has come up with a better idea'

    European powers have urged the US not to abandon the 2015 agreement with Iran that
    limits its nuclear programme, saying it is making the world safer.

    After meeting his Iranian, French, German and EU counterparts in Brussels, UK Foreign
    Secretary Boris Johnson insisted the deal was preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.

    He also challenged Washington to come up with a better alternative.

    US President Donald Trump wants to amend the deal or withdraw from it.

    In October, he refused to recertify for Congress that Iran was complying, accusing it of
    "not living up to the spirit" of the agreement.


    read more....
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-42650266

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    Pentagon bots to push back alleged Russian bots – ex-MI5 officer on US Army’s AI tool request

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-YMxdTkRyY

    Published on 11 Jan 2018
    The US army is looking for help to access and respond to foreign social media platforms
    with a system so sophisticated, it can even understand and use slang. The software needs
    to interpret the sentiment within a social media post, and distinguish between negative and
    positive. Farsi, Russian and Korean are among the languages targeted. It must translate
    from them, and back to them. READ MORE: https://on.rt.com/8wop
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