What if........the midwest (respiratory) virus was "designed" to be merged with this ebola outbreak in order to create the "perfect storm". Seems like a plausable scenario to me. Just thinking out loud here.
What if........the midwest (respiratory) virus was "designed" to be merged with this ebola outbreak in order to create the "perfect storm". Seems like a plausable scenario to me. Just thinking out loud here.
Bob (17th September 2014)
I think those are very valid 'dots' as a thought. I recall when watching 'bo's speech at CDC Tuesday, there was a very brief mention of the new virus affecting the young kids in the same breath as the Ebola.. Obviously it was detected. I had heard from an associate that in Utah, his kid, in his mid twenties, was affected by the respiratory virus after eating something in his salad... I would conjecture it was something he was not normally 'sensitive to', but when primed by the virus (staying latent), add the 'food protein' and the body goes into hyper-overwhelm. He reported within 20 minutes, his throat windpipe had started to inflame and then close up, warranting an air-medivac to a major hospital able to put him on intubation (breathing tube and machine).. he is currently out of danger now, having to have massive steroid injections to stop the reaction.. A virus can sensitize the cells to be hyper..Posted by Sidney (here)
What if........the midwest (respiratory) virus was "designed" to be merged with this ebola outbreak in order to create the "perfect storm". Seems like a plausible scenario to me. Just thinking out loud here.
And that is another reason why this thread was started back in March 2014 this year. Something seemed very wrong specifically with the regional stakeholders. Why this part of Africa, and why the countries affected. Why would a disease of this kind be lain upon these people, who would be spiritually suspicious and probably be very grateful to those who provide the solution to remove the evil spirits.. (earlier in the thread and in the title, the question of a bioweapon release is discussed - the various stateholder parties vying for Africa's resources, in this area is discussed as well, specifically gold, diamonds, strategic and utility metal resources, and OIL.) It was pointed out also LukOil last year decided to get into Diamonds.. And apparently capture a LARGE portion of the production - Liberia and Sierra Leone are sources of the 'blood diamond'. And oil deposits off-shore both countries have been eyed by China and Russia. Accidental or deliberate, or natural occurrence for this highly mutating Ebola Zaire strain outbreak?Posted by spizella (here)
A mathematical model that replicates Ebola outbreaks can no longer be used to ascertain the eventual scale of the current epidemic, finds new research.
Dr Thomas House, of the University’s Warwick Mathematics Institute, developed a model that incorporated data from past outbreaks that successfully replicated their eventual scale.[..]
“With the current situation we are seeing something that defies this previous pattern of outbreak severity. As the current outbreak becomes more severe, it is less and less likely that it is a chance event and more likely that something more fundamental has changed”, says Dr House.
[..]
I agree. There is more than just cookies in the jar that the U S cannot keep their hands out of. As always with an agenda, follow the money. Who benefits from this?
Bob (17th September 2014)
Sierra Leone has gone lockdown
Citizens of Sierra Leone, among the nations worst hit by the epidemic, will be banned from leaving their homes from Thursday to Sunday, the Guardian reports.
During that time, health workers will travel from house to house, identifying cases.
About 21,000 police and soldiers will be deployed to keep people off the streets.
William Pooley, the British nurse who was cured of Ebola a couple weeks ago, has been flown to America on a life-saving mission to give blood to a new victim of the deadly virus.
Mr Pooley has travelled to Atlanta for an emergency blood transfusion which could save the life of a doctor who contracted the disease while working in Sierra Leone.
It is becoming accepted that the blood serum of patients who have survived could provide a needed human created monoclonal antibody treatment (zMapp is the only listed experimental monoclonal antibody treatment requiring millions of $$ to create, and has experienced immense licensing issues with squabbles from the developers).
How much is the blood of the survivors worth? To save a life, priceless.
Mr Pooley was put on a flight on Friday night, paid for by the World Health Organisation, to Atlanta where the doctor is being treated in an isolation unit at Emory University Hospital.
Just hours earlier the Foreign Office had urgently issued him with a new passport because his was incinerated with all of his belongings after he returned from Africa.
Mr Pooley, from Suffolk, and the new patient, who has not been named, are said to be close friends after working together at the Ebola treatment centre in Kenema, Sierra Leone.
(http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...n-9737888.html)
The aid worker, who is the fourth American to contract Ebola, arrived at the hospital (Emory) eight days ago on a specially equipped plane from Sierra Leone.
Read our LIPS (even if it is behind the mask..)
Dr. Anthony Fauci of the CDC (head - of the U.S. Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases)... "It won't spread by the air"... he had to tell Congress..
Well dohhhh... It spreads by droplets (secretions) IN THE AIR... Let's get the facts straight...
OVER and over the drum beats says non-stop, bodily fluids, like secretions... What is in a cough, dohh, play the video above good Doctor Fauci then explain to us lay people one more time, to read your lips (behind the mask, and level 4 containment facility, it doesn't spead when one is exposed to a cough or sneeze...)
Sure doc, doesn't spread by air, but by the LIQUIDS (call them secretions, dohh...) sheesh.. that sleight of hand dialog just doesn't cut it..
(Source - medical results from droplet spreading of disease)
(Source - Fauci testimony - )
Magic spin not working? How about less doublespeak and more solutions..
Savages capture (kill?) medical staff trying to stop the spread
Savages or superstitious uneducated people once again...
"We won't let you tell us we have the disease, if we know about it, we will certainly die..."
That's the attitude where the infection broke out and continues to wildfire spread.. The savages (uneducated uncivilized violent natives, superstitious, won't listen to reason, won't listen to facts, prefer to 'hide the head in the sand' and remain oblivious to what is killing them and continuing to contribute to the disease spread), apparently took the medical staff and journalists. Last month, riots erupted in the area of Guinea where the health team went missing - near where the outbreak was first recorded - after rumours that medics who were disinfecting a market were contaminating people.
The three doctors and three journalists went missing on Tuesday after residents in the village of Wome pelted them with stones as they visited the village.
One of the journalists managed to escape and told reporters that she could hear the villagers looking for them while she was hiding.
The governor of Nzerekore told the BBC that the group were being held captive, although it remains unclear why.
A government delegation, including the health minister and the communications minister, has been dispatched to the region but the BBC's Makeme Bamba, in the Guinean capital Conakry, says the delegation have been unable to reach the village by road because a main bridge has been blocked.
The team is negotiating with local elders to try to gain access, she says.
There have been many reports of people in the region saying they do not believe Ebola exists, or refusing to cooperate with health authorities, fearing that a diagnosis means certain death.
references from: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29256443
Savages of Guinea - http://allafrica.com/stories/200101080390.html
Last edited by Bob; 18th September 2014 at 18:55.
Wome' Guinea - the scenes of the epicenter for the wildfire outbreak
Why would it have spread in the first place?
Civilization is zero in the area.
N'Zérékoré: after the violence, the authorities still are not able to get into the region - inaccessible Wome.
As announced in previous news reports, the town of Wome, located more than 50 kilometers from the City of N'Zérékoré, was the scene of violent protests reluctantly Monday against a medical team trying to bring awareness on the Ebola virus. Until this morning, the town remains inaccessible to authorities N'Zérékoré, testified a colleague reached by telephone .
Since the attack in the region N'Z érékoré of Wome on medical team, no official figures have yet been announced. Several people are wounded while six members of the delegation including three journalists remain missing.
According to the colleague reporting, reached this Thursday, September 18, 2014, the populations of Wome had, at first, made as human shields by lying on the road to prevent the security forces to intervene and were then blocked the road with tree trunks.
On Wednesday, ministers of health and of information that are serving in the Forest Region as part of the awareness of Ebola campaign, could not reach the place. There is generally a blockage happening where people use equipment.
Prior to the current violence, the sages of Gouécké and priests had been appointed to go try to calm the population. These when asked about the fate of the six members of the delegation simply replied that in the stampede, they did not know the disposition of these people.
The six missing persons are: Dr. Ibrahima Fernandez, prefectural health director N'zérékoré, Dr Barry, Deputy General Hospital N'Zérékoré Kolié Pastor, director of a health center in Zao, Facely Camara journalist N'Zaly Freedom FM, Molou Sharif and Sidiki Sidibe, rural radio journalists N'Zérékoré.
(Source)
The latest news is another delegation was preparing to leave Thursday morning for Wome N'Zérékoré to meet the population and try to determine the fate of missing. The only reporter who got away, namely Mariam Sagno has already joined his family in N'Zérékoré.
This madness is why the Ebola continues to fester and spin out of control, coming out of this region with new outbreak "embers" of this wildfire.
When such attitudes persist, the whole world remains at risk. This is getting more and more serious as the ignorant belligerent crowds continue to grow (until they die of the disease), then another one of their kinfolk takes up the riot, until they die and so it continues..
Doctors MURDERED while trying to help where the WILDFIRE OUTBREAK originated.
Update on the Wome' outbreak and the murder of the Doctors and journalists traveling into the area in attempts to educate the SAVAGES.
I am going to call it what it is - a savage attack by illiterate ingrates devoid of knowledge who use surreptitiousness and rumor to drive people into a frenzy to kill people trying to help them.
Give them compassion or nuke the damn place?
This is where the spread is ensuing from. Where the wildfire continues to fester.
(Source)
These people have been compassionately explained, with the leaders of the community that there is a danger there, which is not some evil spirit, but is a serious disease, being spread by the practices being conducted in the community.. Instead of listening to their leaders, they have shown that they are animals, and ones who are vile, and inconsiderate of any help being offered to them. NUKE them is the kindest to save the rest of the community and to save the rest of the world.. Right?
The article says : "Throats slit: Ebola health team, journalists brutally killed in Guinea"
"The bodies of eight people – including three journalists – were found in Guinea after an Ebola health team came under attack two days ago, officials said. Meanwhile, the UN plans to deploy a special mission to fight the virus in the worst-hit countries."
Government spokesman Damantang Albert Camara told Reuters that the workers and journalists were brutally beaten to death.
“The eight bodies were found in the village latrine. Three of them had their throats slit,” he said.
Earlier this week, the team members met with locals. A resident named Yves told the Guardian that there were no problems until after that assembly took place.
“The meeting started off well; the traditional chiefs welcomed the delegation with 10 kola nuts as a traditional greeting,” Yves said. “It was afterwards that some youths came out and started stoning them. They dragged some of them away, and damaged their vehicles.”
IT IS TIME TO STOP THIS behavior, they do not listen to their tribal leaders, they do not listen to reason - yet they insist on infecting the rest of the communities..
Last edited by Bob; 19th September 2014 at 06:01.
What to believe? The spin is spinning.
Bob (19th September 2014)
Seems to me the most recent "spin" starts with the CDC director(s), saying the Ebola Zaire cannot spread from contacting droplets from a cough or sneeze... they are using the words "not airborne", and in the next breath saying it is spread by contact with bodily fluids.. That is so much double speak. Earlier in the thread a Pulmonary Specialist from Tennessee reported studies showing the virus IS able to be spread from infected animals to primates "at a distance" in the same room. Saying then "droplets with the infection" (maybe they have attached to floating "dust particles" (the research wasn't that specific to identify the method that allows the particles to "float") and then make it to the other animals to infect them.
To say that Ebola can make an infection from TWO viral particles (that concentration) and then in the next breath say it can't spread except by close contact, such as kissing or hugging... WHAT exactly is being transferred during a hug? sweat? breath?
The report on the attack and killing of the doctors and journalists is from an on-site journalist and RT.COM
It seems that due to the "oath", it is out-of-character for a doctor to allow for fostering the spread of a disease, but obviously it is not out of character to one who is more politician with an agenda... what agenda exactly - let the disease spread? install troops? install martial laws worldwide? If this was a deliberate bioweapon release, is there a worry about freaking out the rest of the planet, that someone would be allowed to do such a thing? What if it were a rogue general, or rogue bioweapons scientists opting for "bribes"?
Rogues - from the Former Soviet Union - Dangers from
Will Russian Scientists Go Rogue? A Survey on the Threat and the Impact of Western Assistance
"The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 led to a deep, sustained crisis in Russian science," said Deborah Yarsike Ball, National Security Analyst, Proliferation and Terrorism Prevention Program, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, and former Title VIII-Supported Short-Term Scholar, Kennan Institute, at a 16 December 2004 lecture at the Kennan Institute on the possibility of Russian scientists collaborating with "rogue states."
"This crisis, she explained, led to significant concern over the conditions in the weapons-of-mass-destruction complex and the possibility that scientists previously engaged in such activity would relocate to states interested in weapons development."
Her report was briefly mentioned in an earlier post in this thread.
"Ball pointed to three main findings from the survey. First, the survey indicated that a small but significant minority (21 percent) of scientists in the Russian Federation are likely to consider relocating to states such as Iran, Iraq, Syria, or North Korea where they could work in their fields, which could involve projects related to weapons of mass destruction. Older scientists and women were less likely in general to "go rogue," as were those who lived in Moscow or its vicinity. Scientists who had been engaged in weapons-related research were neither more nor less likely to consider immigrating to a "rogue state."
"On the question of whether assistance programs help to prevent scientists from "going rogue," Ball stated that the survey results show that "the programs work."
Scientists who received Western grants were less likely to consider "going rogue." (Read BRIBES)
Twenty-five percent of respondents who had never received a Western grant or had applied for but been denied a grant indicated a willingness to move to Iran, Iraq, Syria, or North Korea to work, compared to only 12 percent of grant recipients. The survey results also showed that Russian scientists receiving a Western grant were less likely to "go rogue" than those who received only Russian grants.
"Other questions in the survey gauged the scientists' sense of responsibility for their research. Ball explained that, overall, the Russian scientists feel a strong moral responsibility about how their research is ultimately used as well as a sense of national duty (that Russian national interests were more important than their own personal interests).
"She noted, "While most scientists are responsible, a small but significant minority still indicate a willingness to ‘go rogue.'" A majority of respondents favorably viewed controls over the rights of weapons researchers to work abroad.
"Finally, Ball discussed the study's findings concerning the ability of Russian scientists to adapt to the changes in their field since the fall of the Soviet Union. She noted that between 1991 and 1994, there was a 75 percent drop in state funding for science.
"Throughout the 1990s Russian science suffered from both external and internal "brain drain" as thousands of Russian scientists and technicians either emigrated abroad or moved on to new careers in Russia outside the field of science. Russian science was forced to accomodate a new system of organization and management, much as the Russian economy had been.
"That wrenching change was reflected in survey results, as the respondents described the new realities that affect their daily activities: the greater role of grants, a severe decline in state funding, more competition, a bias for applied over fundamental research, and a stronger connection to the international scientific community. In general, they were positive about the role of grants and new interactions with international colleagues.
"They were more negative about the emphasis on applied science, the loss of state financing, and the crisis they see in the lack of young people entering the field. The survey also showed that Western grants help improve the scientists' adaptation to non-weapons-related work. A full 61 percent of respondents said that "Western grants and contracts have encouraged Russian scientists to do more work that has non-military applications."
"Ball concluded by underscoring the importance of Western non-proliferation programs in reducing the likelihood of Russian brain drain to countries of concern. Such programs, according to Ball, should continue to be adequately funded."
In other words, the BRIBES to these scientists is KEEP THEM WORKING and occupied, and don't let them go work for the "bad guys".. (hmmmmm)
(Source)