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    Default Re: Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

    Hi Bob! Hope you're well (I am gettin worried about this ebola!)

    I found something a bit odd while doing some Googling today and thought you all might like to see:

    i was googling something like "can ebola be carried by aquatic species" and "is an aquatic species ebola natural host"

    http://web.fisheries.org/proofs/fof/faisal.pdf

    Quote The aquatic biosphere, water, covers more than two-thirds of earth.
    While aquatic animal health is heavily influenced by the water quality, it also dictates how healthy aquatic
    ecosystems are and, in turn, how healthy terrestrial ecosystems are and the terrestrial species
    depending on them.

    Three Sides of the Same Coin: Aquatic Animals–One
    Health–Ecosystem Health

    Mohammed
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    Departments of Pathobiology and Diagnostic Investigation and Fisheries and Wildlife
    Colleges of Veterinary Medicine and Agriculture and Natural Resources
    Michigan State University, 784 Wilson Road, East Lansing, Michigan 48824, USA


    For example, with the advances of diagnostic assays, scientists reported
    that aquatic animals can transmit human and animal pathogens such as avian flu transmitted
    by shrimps and the Ebola virus transmitted by cichlids to humans
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cichlid



    Also

    Ebola river crab eating macaque (lives on aquatic species!!)




    also in the above excerpt Spanish Flu is attributed to having been spread by an aquatic bird...


    so if this is true in the least,

    A.) water and what lives there carries a LOT more disease than humans believe and it's a natural danger,

    or B.) the above is true and ALSO gov't/organizations can just infect the equivalent of a fishery, let these contaminated animals into the wild just like the Oxitec/Gates mosquitoes, and BOOM = biowarfare.

    option B.) can be blamed on Mother Nature btw

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    Hepatitis for instance in clams, muscles is an occurrence. See: http://www.virology.ws/2011/07/06/ha...lam-maybe-not/


    "As bivalve shellfish are excellent bio-accumulators of contaminants and chemicals, it is no surprise that they also harbor waterborne viruses such as hepatitis A."

    I find it amusing the amount of folks who eat raw clams, muscles, and oysters taking the risk, when they tell me try it I'll love it.. No thanks ..

    Updating with another LINK to a PDF - http://www.aphis.usda.gov/wildlife_d...aert%20121.pdf

    "Freshwater Clams As Bioconcentrators of Avian Influenza Virus in Water"

    The bivalves concentrate viruses which do exist in the water..
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    Australia continues to be extremely cautious


    A one year old child who arrived from a Country having outbreaks of the Ebola Virus was ill and subsequently tested for the virus. The one-year-old was taken to the RCH on Friday by ambulance paramedics in protective suits and transferred to an isolation room because of fears of a spread of the killer disease.

    The tests came back negative, but never-the-less, the precautions were followed.. Above is a picture of Clinical nurse specialist Theresa Vassiliou suited up in an isolation room at the Royal Melbourne Hospital's infection control centre.

    ALSO

    A 27-year-old man sparked an Ebola scare on the Gold Coast after he arrived back in Australia from the Congo this month.

    (Source)

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    Another Spanish Priest to be repatriated (brought home) to Spain infected with the Ebola Virus

    MADRID (Reuters) - Spain on Sunday sent a military plane to Sierra Leone to repatriate a Spanish Catholic priest working in the African country who has tested positive for the Ebola virus, the government said.

    Spain's health ministry said in a statement that Manuel Garcia Viejo, a member of the Hospital Order of San Juan de Dios, worked in the Western city of Lunsar.

    He is the second Spanish priest to be diagnosed with Ebola after Miguel Pajares, also a member of San Juan de Dios, who died last month (having received the treatment which worked for others) after being brought back to Spain from Liberia.

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    Once in Madrid, Garcia Viejo will be taken to the Carlos III hospital, where Pajares was treated, the health ministry said.

    The Health Ministry said Pajares had been treated with the experimental drug ZMapp, manufactured by U.S. company Mapp Biopharmaceutical.

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    Is the U.S. Military Manufacturing Ebola Vaccines to Be Tested on its Soldiers
    to ‘Advance US Ability to Wage War’?

    Sunday 21st September 2014 at 09:27 By david-icke





    ‘At the beginning of August 2014 Bloomberg published an article about
    the “promising hopes” tobacco plants offer “for developing an effective treatment
    for the deadly Ebola virus”:

    Tobacco plant-derived medicines, which are also being developed by a company
    whose investors include Philip Morris International Inc., are part of a handful of
    cutting edge plant-based treatments that are in the works for everything from
    pandemic flu to rabies using plants such as lettuce, carrots and even duckweed…

    Another tobacco giant-backed company working on biotech drugs grown in tobacco
    plants is Medicago Inc. in Quebec City, which is owned by Mitsubishi Tanabe
    Pharma Corp. and Philip Morris.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/is-the-...ge-war/5402847

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    Operational Details of Ebola Quarantine Zones & Martial Law Enforcement

    Sunday 21st September 2014 at 09:26 By david-icke




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    Operational Details of Ebola Quarantine Zones & Martial Law Enforcement

    Sep, 2014
    by Dave Hodges






    ‘If one thinks that the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and the National Institute of
    Health (NIH) are merely tax-supported guardians at the gate protecting the public’s
    health and welfare, then one is seriously deluded and naive. These two rogue organizations
    are proving to be as greedy, cunning and evil as Goldman Sachs and they, as well as
    Bill Gates, are preparing to usher in an Ebola pandemic accompanied by mandatory
    vaccinations and quarantines enforced through the use of lethal force.’

    http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/20...w-enforcement/

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    Apparently the vaccines, AND treatment cures were developed as early as 2012 (USAMRIID).. and what, suppressed? Some of the data located showed that there were licensing squabbles with the inventors of the treatments.. but the basic information was the development was done jointly with government FUNDING, meaning they are active stakeholders as to say how and where the products are dispensed...

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    How do they deal with any head itches while wearing those bio-protective suits?? It makes me get raving ear itches just looking at them.

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    Quote Posted by Lone Bean (here)
    How do they deal with any head itches while wearing those bio-protective suits?? It makes me get raving ear itches just looking at them.
    Apparently it's like what astronauts do and what hard hat divers do. (ref: http://mentalfloss.com/article/52987...es-space-walks - space walkers can use the microphone in their helmet as an improvised scratching post. Corticosteroids are sometimes used prophylactically.)

    Opening the suit in a Class IV environment is hazardous, as is getting external potentially bioform laden liquid on the skin, the eyes, mouth..

    I suppose we will see what the US military troops are going to use in protective gear, if it will be any different than what the doctors wore when they got infected. I 'think' if we see full air filtering 'hepa filtration' as is done with Class IV isolation facilities, they would then not be taking any chances, feeling potentially then it has the capacity to spread by airborne droplets.

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    A bit of a reference here about NOT touching (not scratching for instance)

    "I was at the Médecins Sans Frontičres treatment centre with my sister Katie, a documentary film-maker who was accompanying me, when I reached out to tuck a wisp of her hair that had come loose. The act was so natural, I didn't even think about it. Suddenly a medic yelled across the field hospital: "No touching!"

    "The paranoia that seized me then didn't leave until I returned home. Unlike other hostile situations I've covered over five years in west Africa – riots, wars and natural disasters – in this case people I cared about were the enemy. Ebola makes you a risk even to yourself: touching your eyes, nose or mouth can infect you."
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    the Sierra Leone - 3 day shutdown (curfew) apparently provided useful data.

    Different than the shutdown quarantine in Liberia, of "West Point", towards the water by Monrovia, in this case the shut-down curfew provided health workers an opportunity to assess by going door-to-door, just who was exhibiting Ebola symptoms.

    At least 130 new infected cases were identified that way, stopping a potential spread through those checked..

    (Source)

    "There was massive awareness (created by the education provided) of the disease," Gaojia said, noting that authorities reached more than 80 percent of the households they had intended to target.

    "Sierra Leone now needs to focus on treatment and case management and it urgently needs treatment centres in all its 14 districts as well as "foot soldiers" in clinics and hospitals, he said.

    "We need clinicians, epidemiologists, lab technicians, infection-control practitioners and nurses," he said.

    "The hemorrhagic fever, which has struck mainly in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia, is the worst since Ebola was identified in 1976 in the forests of central Africa. At least 562 have died in Sierra Leone.

    "The lock-down was intended to allow 30,000 health workers, volunteers and teachers to visit every household. Some argued it might have a negative impact on Sierra Leone's poor."

    This survey was said to have reached about 1 million residents of Sierra Leone.

    "Results were still outstanding on 39 suspected cases.

    "About 100 dead bodies believed to be of Ebola victims, which could otherwise have been secretly buried without homes being quarantined, were retrieved and buried, officials say.

    "Bodies of Ebola victims are highly contagious and their swift burial is considered key to containing the disease."

    (Source)

    (Just an emotional note here, this just tears me up, PEOPLE are being called 'bodies' now, just statistics.. I was thinking about the doctor induced murder of Joan Rivers yesterday, and the murder of my mom again by doctor stupidity.. and putting in perspective this epidemic... (sigh).. people forget PEOPLE are not statistics, looking at the issues the loved ones, the survivors have to deal with from the help or lack of it.. due to ignorance)

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    Today the statistics have been revised, both in death rate, the dead and dying, and the optimism that something can turn for the better..

    multiple sources

    Nigeria says its "free of Ebola" (that's interesting since they had hundreds of cases being observed from Port Harcourt to Lagos) - Port Hartcourt, had been home to over 400 contacts exposed by the Doctor who died there (mentioned in an earlier post) and had been under medical surveillance. As of last night, only 25 contacts remained.

    The WHO Ebola Response Team published dire predictions of the west African outbreak in the New England Journal of Medicine, overnight – including an updated 70.8% fatality rate (this is based on the current survival and deaths reported. Unknown survival and unknown deaths cannot contribute into the statistic though.. WHO and CDC have been saying potentially the rates are 2.5 times under-reported.)

    NY Times reports

    "Since the beginning of the outbreak more than six months ago, the Sierra Leone Health Ministry reported only 10 confirmed Ebola deaths here in Freetown, the capital of more than one million people, and its suburbs as of Sunday — a hopeful sign that this city, unlike the capital of neighboring Liberia, had been relatively spared the ravages of the outbreak. But the bodies pouring in to the graveyard tell a different story. In the last eight days alone, 110 Ebola victims have been buried at King Tom Cemetery, according to the supervisor, Abdul Rahman Parker, suggesting an outbreak that is much more deadly than either the government or international health officials have announced."

    "The majority of the recent deaths recorded at the cemetery were young people — young adults, people in early middle age, or children — with very few elderly people on the list. Several of the deaths also occurred in a concentrated area, sometimes in the same house, suggesting that a virulent infection had struck."

    "International health experts here had no explanation for the striking discrepancy between the government’s tally of the dead in the capital and the cemetery crew’s statistics. Several of them noted the general confusion surrounding official statistics here from the beginning, with one leading international health official saying: “We don’t know exactly what is going on.”

    "But nobody disputed that things appear to be getting worse. (in Sierra Leone)"


    (map does not reflect the "contained" case in Senegal, nor DR Congo)

    Nebraska reveals the treatment on Dr. Scara (Dr. Brantly's colleague)

    Dr. Rick Sacra, who arrived at the Nebraska Medical Center's biocontainment unit in early September, is using a drug called TKM-Ebola.

    The treatment began as soon as Sacra arrived, with the Boston-area doctor getting seven straight days of the drug.

    NMC doctors caution against thinking TKM-Ebola is a magic bullet.

    “We don’t know if it was Dr. Sacra’s own immune system, the supportive therapy we provided, the blood transfusion from Dr. Brantly, TKM-Ebola or a combination off all these factors that helped Dr. Sacra recover. What’s important is that we pool all of our treatment resources and continue to study what is most effective in treating the virus.”

    TKM-Ebola is manufactured by a Canadian pharmaceutical company based in British Columbia.

    Australia - Perth
    A woman who was admitted to Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital in Perth suffering 'ebola-like' symptoms has been cleared of the deadly disease.

    Switzerland
    GENEVA (TheBlaze/AP) - A Swiss (male) nurse has joined the ranks of health workers evacuated from West Africa as a precaution for possible Ebola virus disease infection. The means by which this man came in contact with the bodily fluids of an infected child who bit him.

    -------------------------

    This gets interesting...

    Experts advise against Ebola travel ban

    Advisers to the UN World Health Organisation says there should be no general ban in travel or trade. (Source)

    This is RIGHT on the heels of statements as this:

    (Source) - 20,000 cases by this November predicted if nothing changes..

    "Public-health experts warn that the epidemic could turn from “a disaster into a catastrophe”"

    In the stiff upper lip view of "DON'T PANIC", (hmm... )

    (Source)

    "Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, meanwhile, projects 1.4 million people could be infected by January, assuming that Ebola cases continue to increase exponentially and are under-reported by a factor of 2.5."

    Statistically,

    Low end mortality rate of (70.8%) times 1.4 million equals 991,200 people dead.

    If we compute on the high end, 2.5 times 1.4 million times 70.8% shows 2,478,000 dead.


    Is there reason for hope?

    "Right now, there's some reason for hope. Most of the projections about cases escalating to the hundreds of thousands are based on all the interventions we have put in place failing. As the CDC's director Tom Freiden said, this is a "fluid and dynamic situation. What the modelling shows us is even in dire scenarios, if we move fast enough we can turn it around."

    "Hopefully, the unprecedented response by the global community — the UN resolution, the personnel the US, Cuba, England and other countries are sending over — will get there fast enough in a coordinated response that can make a difference. As Frieden said, "The surge now can break the back of the epidemic. But delay is extremely costly in terms of lives and effort."

    "It appears Senegal and Nigeria battled back the virus through contact tracing and isolating cases. Though they only had a few cases and deaths each — tiny outbreaks compared to the scale in the other affected countries — they show that with the world on alert, when the disease turns up elsewhere, health officials can still mount successful responses. The worst-case scenario is, in other words, avoidable."

    It seems though if the borders are left open, if the hospitals are not built, if the staff does not take proper precautions for the staff AND stay working, not quitting (as some have recently under the stress), if the world fails to continue to send supplies and help build facilities... the scenario could go to the negative extremes..

    This is a delicate situation, the biggest being the "denial" that the infection exists, and how rapidly and easily one can become infected..
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    FDA says THAT'S IT on 3 companies claiming EBOLA CURES or treatments.. and issues letters saying comply or else..

    SEE - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post880960

    THIS THREAD "Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?" here is NOT to be used for promoting or arguing for silver, nanosilver treatments - the thread above listed has a discussion about silver/nanosilver..

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    Dr Rick Scara, infected with Ebola, having entered the Nebraska Hospital iso unit 3 weeks ago, has now been released, "cured". What organ damage (if any) would need to be monitored if damage had happened. A damaged liver, heart, lungs, kidneys, and so forth need time to heal, and/or regenerate, so not having signs of the virus being "active" is just that, the virus itself has now been recognized by the body, and sufficient mechanisms exist now to have the immune system constantly target and not be overwhelmed by this particular strain of Ebola-Zaire.

    (Source)

    "Sacra and Brantly were both infected with Ebola while working in Liberia with the aid organization Serving in Mission. Sacra was treating patients in an obstetrics clinic in Monrovia, and was not working directly with Ebola patients. He said he does not know how he became infected with the virus, but that it's possible one of the women he helped had the disease."

    "Brantly, who tested negative for the deadly virus after several weeks of treatment in Atlanta, flew to Nebraska where Sacra was in isolation and donated his blood.
    Doctors believe Brantly had antibodies that Sacra needed to help his immune system fight the deadly virus.

    "In addition to the blood transfusion, doctors gave Sacra aggressive supportive care, including electrolytes and IV fluids.

    "The Nebraska doctors also gave Sacra an experimental drug called TKM-Ebola, which the FDA recently approved for wider use.

    "The American patients at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta -- Brantly and Nancy Writebol -- were given a different experimental drug called ZMapp, which was developed by the biotech firm Mapp Biopharmaceutical Inc."

    The concept of BLOOD DONATION from survivors to new patients seems to be the current trend and thought process in West Africa, while they await for any solutions from vaccines or monoclonal antibody treatments. All of that is "experimental" and not "approved registered therapy".

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    DR Congo outbreak possibly contained

    (Source) Reuters updates

    The Prime Minister of DR Congo, reports that there have been no new cases being reported in the last 10 days. Optimistically, Prime Minister Augustin Matata Ponyo feels containment/isolating patients has worked.

    DR Congo has recorded 41 deaths from its outbreak. Congo had recorded 68 cases in Equateur province since August. Four previously suspected cases had tested negative, but one new case was added.

    This strain is different from the Ebola-Zaire strain that is infecting people in West Africa (Sierra Leone, Guinea, and Liberia).

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    All i can tell is that the awareness of the "commoner (lol)" about ebola has reach the streets in Montreal. Staff were i work were discussing it yesterday.

    Well, for the h1n1 virus only 50 percent of the population got vaccinated the balance not believing that it eas such a big treat. At a minimum it means people are reading and trying to discern the truth
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    Sierra Leone goes full country-wide lockdown, with a quarantine which will allow for set hours during the daylight, outside the curfew times - only through accepted corridors (allowing for essential food acquisition)..

    (Source)

    FREETOWN, Sierra Leone — Acknowledging that the Ebola epidemic sweeping Sierra Leone was worsening, officials here put hundreds of thousands more citizens under quarantine on Thursday, sealing off more than a quarter of the country and warning travelers not to get out of their vehicles in the districts under isolation.

    Nearly all of the country’s 14 districts are now under either total or partial quarantine, with over one million people affected, as the disease advances into new areas. Infection rates have been rising in the capital, Freetown, a dangerous development because of the city’s density.

    In an address to citizens late Wednesday night, President Ernest Bai Koroma acknowledged that the new quarantine orders would “definitely pose great difficulties for our people,” but he suggested that officials had little choice.

    In what appeared to be an acknowledgment that official statistics had so far been misleading, the government said the country’s plight was “worse than what was being reflected in reports,” adding that there was a “desperate need to step up our response.”

    The government set up official corridors for traveling through quarantined areas, and movement through them is now restricted to the hours between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. Passengers were told not to leave their vehicles while passing through quarantined zones. And in individual infected chiefdoms — traditional administrative units — within the newly quarantined districts, Mr. Koroma took the extraordinary step of warning citizens not to “travel to any other chiefdom until further notice.”

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    Venezuela - Hemorrhagic fever claims 10 people.

    With all the talk of Ebola in Western Africa, sometimes other hemorrhagic fevers are not payed adequate attention..

    (Source)

    El Universal in Caracas: Autopsy reveals multiple complications in victims of fever syndrome.

    Aragua state, central north Venezuela, where nine people have died in the last few days reportedly from a hemorrhagic fever syndrome. Another person died in Caracas on Sunday from the same condition.

    To date, doctors do not know whether the disease is caused by a virus or bacteria. This will be determined by the test results of the samples sent last week to the National Institute of Hygiene (INH) in Caracas, the only place in Venezuela that has the adequate reagents.

    "Three to five days are enough for running the tests, but they (health authorities) have not said anything. This is an emergency, we do not know what we are facing and we need to know the causes in order to provide appropriate treatment to prevent the collapse of the patient's organs, and also to set up epidemiological surveillance.

    This is a very aggressive disease that causes deterioration of patients within 72 hours and causes death," said a doctor who attended a meeting convened on Tuesday night at the headquarters of the Medical Association of Aragua state.

    This is a very aggressive strain.

    The autopsy report shows hepatomegaly, strong steatosis, congestive spleen, pale kidneys, hemorrhagic enterocolitis, erosive pleuritis and petechiae in the upper limbs.

    Representatives of the Medical Association of Aragua state remarked that all the deceased had the same symptoms (high fever, skin rashes and bleeding).

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    Default Re: Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

    Well, talking of what is going around, my neighbour was back from Mexico one month ago and nearly passed away from Dengue fever caught over there. What was once a rare occurence in Mexico is now becoming more prevalent with climate change he said. He is now recuperating at home.

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    The potential "patient zero" of Senegal actually survived, and has returned home to Guinea, not having appeared to have infected anyone..

    September 26, 2014 12:32 PM

    CONAKRY—
    The Guinean student who traveled to Senegal and became the country's lone confirmed case of Ebola has returned home fully recovered. The incident highlighted the difficulty of trying to contain the outbreak, even though Senegal had closed its borders with Guinea.

    Mamadou Alimuo Diallo says he went to Senegal in August to see his uncle and to inquire about attending school there. He told VOA he did not know he was sick at the time.

    He said he felt nothing until 48 hours after arrival in Dakar, when the first symptoms appeared. He began vomiting. He says when he felt worse over the course of the week, he asked his uncle to take him to the hospital and that is where they told him he had Ebola.

    Diallo recalls feeling sad as he didn’t know if he would survive. But when he started feeling better after a few days - he was hopeful he’d recover.

    Diallo’s ability to cross a closed border raised alarm bells. But his case appears isolated and no one else in Senegal has contracted the vicious disease, which is killing about 50 percent of those infected in this current outbreak.

    (Source)

    Meanwhile in a strangely reported aside..

    Two 'dead' people infected in Liberia, before being buried appeared to have resurrected (?) absolutely freaking out the residents. Hoax? Misdiagnosis?

    (Source)

    Quote Panic in Liberian villages as two Ebola victims ‘rise from the dead’

    There’s currently panic, fear and confusion in two villages in Nimba
    County in Liberia after reports that two female Ebola victims have
    risen from the dead.

    According to local reports, 44 year old Dorris Quoi who lived in Hope
    Village Community and a 67 year old woman identified as Ma Kebeh, died
    of the Ebola virus and were about to be taken for burial when they
    resurrected and are now walking among the living.

    Ma Kebeh had been indoors for two nights without food and medication
    before her death, while Dorris had suffered for several weeks before
    she died alone in her family home.

    This is the first report of dead
    Ebola victims resurrecting.

    Despite some people’s reservations about
    the story being true, it hasn’t stopped them from panicking..

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    Thumbs up Re: Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

    Apparently success using HIV drug to treat EBOLA - used by Doctor in Liberia

    (Source) A doctor in rural Liberia inundated with Ebola patients says he's had good results with a treatment he tried out of sheer desperation: an HIV drug.

    Dr. Gobee Logan has given the drug, lamivudine, to 15 Ebola patients, and all but two survived. That's a 7% mortality rate.

    Across West Africa, the virus has killed 70% of its victims.

    That is a great result. Possibly taken early enough, the amount of organ damage would be minimal, and survival rates even higher..

    Kundu and the other 12 patients who took the lamivudine and survived, received the drug in the first five days or so of their illness.

    The two patients who died received it between days five and eight.

    The drug is not without risks.

    Dr. Logan is mindful that lamivudine can cause liver and other problems, but he says it's worth the risk since Ebola is so deadly.

    CONNECTING THE DOTS

    Logan said he got the idea to try lamivudine when he read in scientific journals that HIV and Ebola replicate inside the body in much the same way.

    "Ebola is a brainchild of HIV," he said. "It's a destructive strain of HIV."

    At first he tried an HIV drug called acyclovir, but it didn't seem to be effective.

    Then he tried lamivudine on a healthcare worker who'd become ill, and within a day or two he showed signs of improvement and survived.

    Lamivudine is a nucleocide analog, and other drugs in this class are being studied to treat Ebola.

    NOTE of INTEREST

    Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases says that theoretically, Logan's approach has some merit.

    Dr FAUCI has said repeatedly there are NO CURE NOR TREATMENTS approved for treating EBOLA, and has repeatedly said, that EBOLA is NOT airborne (see earlier posts in this thread discussing AIRBORNE transmission by contacting suspended droplets (aerosolized), not by contacting "AIR".

    Fauci wants Dr. Logan's email address.. WHY? (suppress, purchase, make disappear, warn, etc..)

    COST WISE

    PENNIES compared to the monoclonal antibodies being looked at such as zMAPP..

    http://www.pbs.gov.au/medicine/item/...7h-6271c-6435q

    Australian - treatment cost lowest, 28 pills (100 mg size) about 212$

    Seems maybe as posted in other threads, referencing treatments being cost effective, (and documenting FDA sponsored research to determine if existing REGISTERED meds, will treat/cure Ebola) that again we see something which has been IGNORED or SUPPRESSED (and may be suppressed if this is left to the way things happen in the big pharma industry)... that low cost treatment IS available.. Some are safer than others, with less liver damage..

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    Default Re: Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

    This EBOLA SOLUTION basically would be available GENERICALLY - as the patent has expired (see below)

    ALSO this research apparently, no one connected the dots (hmmm) at EMORY, next to the CDC, you remember, where the first US patients with Ebola were brought and given the infinitely expensive (and conveniently unavailable zMAPP monoclonal antibody drug which if the virus MUTATES would mean that the drug will no longer work cause it is tied into the exact protein found in that particular viral strain, requiring another 100M$ (US) or so for another mAB varient)...

    THIS WAS READY IN 1989 to cure EBOLA, treat it effectively, and it MAY BE SUPPRESSED by those who have been trying to corner the treatment market.

    Here is the data - (Source)

    It's a bit technical, but it can be followed, and interpreted, if needed.

    Racemic BCH-189 (the minus form is known as Lamivudine) was invented by Dr. Bernard Belleau while at work at McGill University and Dr Paul Nguyen-Ba at the Montreal-based IAF BioChem International, Inc. laboratories in 1988 and the minus enantiomer isolated in 1989.

    Dr. Yung-Chi Cheng of Yale University in collaboration with R.F. Schinazi and D.C. Liotta first reported the anti-hepatitis B virus (HBV) activity of Lamivudine in cell culture which eventually led to the first oral antiviral agent for the treatment of HBV.

    Subsequently the group at Emory University headed by Dr. Dennis C. Liotta Dr. Woo-Baeg Choi and Dr. Raymond F. Schinazi developed a synthesis for the BCH-189 that gave exclusively the beta-enantiomers.

    They then went on to resolve the two enantiomers and demonstrated that the antiviral activity at non-toxic concentrations resided in the (-)-enantiomer, now called Lamivudine.

    The Emory patents to lamivudine were later invalidated by the original inventors.

    The drug's effectiveness for treating HIV in combination with AZT was discovered accidentally when a patient took Zidovudine secretly while in a clinical trial of Lamivudine monotherapy.

    The drug was later licensed to the British pharmaceutical company Glaxo by Biochem Pharma (now Shire Pharmaceuticals) for a 14 percent royalty. GlaxoSmithKline subsequently ceded the product to its ViiV Healthcare joint venture in 2009.

    Lamivudine was approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on November 17, 1995 for use with zidovudine (AZT) and again in 2002 as a once-a-day dosed medication.

    The fifth antiretroviral drug on the market, it was the last NRTI for three years while the approval process switched to protease inhibitors.

    According to the manufacturer's 2004 annual report, its patent will expire in the United States in 2010 and in Europe in 2011.

    Lamivudine showed no evidence of carcinogenicity or mutagenicity in in vivo studies in mice and rats at doses from 10 to 58 times those used in humans.

    Lamivudine is often given in combination with zidovudine, with which it is highly synergistic.

    What's an Enantiomer?

    These substances are important biologically influencing substances.

    The molecules would exist in two forms, basically they are molecular mirrors of each other. There is a left viewpoint substance and a right viewpoint substance.

    If it is left handed the chirality is M(minus), if right handed, the chirality is P(plus).

    In radio communications for instance, there is an upper sideband and a lower sideband. Combine the two and one has "double sideband" information.. Add a carrier to the sidebands, and one then can hear the speech.. BUT if the transmission lets say is the UPPER sideband, and the carrier is wrongly phased, it comes out intelligible.

    There are molecules setup the same way, with information showing up right handed, or information showing up LEFT handed....but even though enantiomers have identical physical and chemical properties, the difference between two enantiomers (L or R viewpoint, similar to upper or lower sideband), can have tremendous impact, especially in biological systems, because many important biological molecules are chiral.

    OK what is CHIRAL then?

    Look at this image of a complex molecule, the right hand view and the left hand view - the structure orientation of how it exists in space is a reverse mirror, being able to have chirality means one can 'put the two hands together' and the two match..


    Pronunciation - "chiral" (pronounced "KYE-ral"), or L/R handed molecules. Each twin is called an enantiomer (pronounced en-ANT-ee-oh-mer).

    Even though the molecular chemistry is the same with L/R handed molecules, the BIOLOGICAL FUNCTION can be radically different..

    "Perhaps looking-glass milk isn’t good to drink.." said Alice, in Lewis Carolls Through the Looking Glass.
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