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    Default Re: Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

    Just a hypothesis, a maybe what-if... All in this thread it's been pointed out the ex-Soviet bloc had been actively working under "leadership" from the Kremlin, and that the rest of the world apparently believes that the massive bio-weapons machine was never really taken apart and made "safe".

    Going on that thought.. and nothing more, other than some anecdotal data about ex-SEALS being found dead in Seychelles in February, transporting a cargo that can't be verified other than some data that says the company that employed the ex-SEALS is noted for securing/transporting highly sensitive cargo, such as nuclear materials and biologicals... and some data that alluded to, the cargo was a special type of biological... and in light of Crimea, in light of the Kremlin moving on other countries who were part of the biological weapons "family" being taken over, and a move maybe on Moldova, (another Country with an ex-extensive bio-weapons asset).. and some data that said, the cargo from Seychelles was split-up, in UAE, some sent to Malaysia for eventual destination end up in Bejing, and maybe some was used as a "demonstration" by some terrorist group behind it all in West Africa.. as a "show of strength".. WHO KNOWS for SURE.. that's the bio-conspiracy skinny.. If it had to be sent to Diego Garcia to keep it out of "terror group hands" in Beijing, if really CDC and Chinese CDC (http://www.chinacdc.cn/en/) specialists for bio-weapons handling were flown to Diego Garcia BEFORE the missing plane was "diverted" there.. it could have been something tracked from when the stuff was first put on the "boat" that ended up in Seychelles... something watched, the network "analyzed" who's who, where are they going, who's the end group (China terrorist group, Martyr's Brigade for instance), or possibly ref: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-15444081 radical Muslims in the far western region of Xinjiang. (see China and the Uighurs)..

    The current reality is we have a spreading EBOLA (and some other infections) showing up in West African countries. And there are fears of at least 400 carriers in those countries. What is good is that there tends to be no international jet travel from the region where the 400 are believed to be located. But if those people come in contact with those who are traveling out of the countries, that could increase the spread (such as the suspected infected Canadian, mentioned on page 1 of the thread).

    Ref: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14197482 - Chinese terror "situation"

    "Beijing says Uighur militants have been waging a violent campaign for an independent state by plotting bombings, sabotage and civic unrest.

    "Since the 9/11 attacks in the US, China has increasingly portrayed its Uighur separatists as auxiliaries of al-Qaeda.

    "It has accused them of receiving training and indoctrination from Islamist militants in neighbouring Afghanistan, although little public evidence has been produced in support of these claims.

    "More than 20 Uighurs were captured by the US military after its invasion of Afghanistan. Although they were imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay for six years, they were not charged with any offence"

    Note - please pay attention to Al-Qaeda bio-terror reference discussed on the previous page 2 of this thread for relevance..
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    Default Re: Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

    Update on Rod Ogilvie the engineer who came back from Liberia and hospitalized in Saskatoon, Canada (Post on Page 1 of this thread)

    http://www.leaderpost.com/health/inf...468/story.html

    "A week ago, Rod Ogilvie was isolated at St. Paul’s Hospital when he became seriously ill after recently returning from Liberia in West Africa, which is currently grappling with an Ebola virus outbreak.

    "Late Monday night, lab tests at the national microbiology lab in Winnipeg ruled out the most serious viral hemorrhagic fevers caused by the Ebola, Lassa, Crimean-Congo and Marburg viruses.

    "According to a statement released by the Ministry of Health on Friday: “Under the Public Health Act, the ministry and Regional Health Authority have no authority to release personal health information for a condition that does not pose a risk to the health of the public."

    “The family has also expressed its wish that no personal health information be released.”

    This apparently is why we the news is not receiving "updates" on Rod's condition.


    However we have this new as of 1 April from the Vancouver Sun - http://www.vancouversun.com/health/C...627/story.html

    "George Sharpe, chief geologist at Global Geological Services Ltd. in Saskatoon, identified the sick man as his business partner, Rod Ogilvie.

    "He got this assignment in Africa... He wanted his own project and it was just him that was required," Sharpe told Saskatoon radio station CKOM.

    "It was pretty routine. He just went over to supervise an iron ore project. He has done it many times before, he has been in Africa before, so it is nothing new to him."

    "Sharpe said Ogilvie went to the west African country of Liberia in February and came back in the middle of March.

    "He was aware, as we all are, that anybody can catch these kinds of illnesses. There is no perfect way to prevent them... He was always advising me 'when you go to the tropics, Ghana or whatever, absolutely you have to take your malaria pills religiously, take your insect repellent, watch what you eat and he was always very careful about that," Shape said.

    "What he got was just something by pure chance more than likely. Certainly he wasn't the type of person who would ever take a chance on catching anything like that."

    "There is fear an outbreak of the Ebola virus has spread to Liberia, where the man was travelling.

    "Dr. Denise Werker, the province's deputy chief medical health officer, said Tuesday that Ogilvie remains in critical condition and his organs are failing.

    "Sharpe said his partner has had Dengue fever before.

    "Dengue Hemorrhagic fever occurs when you get a second infection of Dengue virus caused by an autoimmune phenomena," Werker said."

    Note:

    We talked about how serious DENGUE Hemorrhagic fever (potentially a result of an re-infection of Dengue fever) on page 1, and possibly Mr. Ogilvie has this auto-immune enhanced reaction to the Dengue.

    The doctors and the hospital should have been able to perform serological tests (and/or send out) on his blood to determine if it is DENGUE, but as mentioned earlier in this POST, the doctors and hospital are NOT talking.

    And they are continuing to use extraordinary precautions for hospital staff to prevent any exposure.. just in case its not DHF.

    Logically, Ribavirin could be tried as a treatment if it is not DHF.

    Other Hemorrhagic fevers possible "naturally" in Liberia could be:
    • Rift Valley fever
    • Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever
    • Lassa fever
    Other dangerous diseases of Liberia include:
    • Japanese Encephalitis
    • Malaria (both types)
    • Cutaneous Leishmaniasis
    • Leptospirosis - high fever, severe headache, vomiting, jaundice, and diarrhea; untreated, the
    disease can result in kidney damage, liver failure, meningitis, or respiratory distress; fatality rates are low but left untreated recovery can take months.
    • Meningococcal meningitis
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    Default Re: Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

    Oh my goodness, Bobd, that is not good news -- but it's one of the reasons I thought the Oxitec mosquito releases were crimes against nature.

    Antibody dependent hemorrhagic dengue fever

    Quote Unfortunately, for some patients, Dengue Fever can be even more dangerous. In the more severe form, known as Dengue Hemorrhagic Fever (DHF), blood vessels start to leak and the blood fails to clot, causing bleeding from the nose, mouth, and gums. Without prompt treatment, the blood vessels can collapse, causing a critical condition called Dengue Shock Syndrome. Ultimately, this can lead to fatality: about 25,000 people die from Dengue Fever every year.

    After Malaria, Dengue Fever is the second most widespread mosquito-borne disease in the world. The World Health Organisations has estimated that between 50 and 100 million people suffer from Dengue Fever each year: that’s more than the population of the UK – every year!
    50-100 million potential human time bombs.

    edit: what do you guys think of this:

    http://www.genewatch.org/uploads/f03...cbrief_fin.pdf

    Quote The UK biotech company Oxitec has recently released 3 million genetically-modified
    (GM) male mosquitoes as part of an open release field experiment in the Cayman
    Islands.

    The GM mosquitoes produced by Oxitec mate with wild female mosquitoes but are
    genetically engineered so that most of their offspring die before adulthood. This is
    intended to reduce the population of the released mosquito species, which is a carrier of
    the dengue virus, and hence to reduce the incidence of this tropical disease. However,
    there are many unanswered questions about the impacts of this technology and
    concerns about the process for approving these experiments.

    Further open releases of Oxitec’s GM mosquitoes are planned for Malaysia in December
    2010.

    This briefing provides background information about the company, its technology, and its
    recent and proposed experimental releases of GM mosquitoes.

    Key findings are:
    • Oxitec is losing approximately £1.7 million a year and owes £2.25 million to a
    Boston multi-millionaire investor which it is due to repay by 2013;
    • Oxitec’s business model assumes its developing country customers will be
    locked in to ongoing payments for repeated releases of millions of GM
    mosquitoes, allowing it to repay this loan and pay dividends to its investors,
    including Oxford University;
    • The company’s first open field trials of 3 million GM mosquitoes have been
    undertaken in the Cayman Islands (a British Overseas Territory) - funded by UK
    charity the Wellcome Trust - without any consultation, public risk assessment,
    ethical oversight, or the consent of local people;
    • Former UK science minister Lord Drayson and former President of the Royal
    Society Bob May have both acted as advisors to investors in the company
    (Oxford University Challenge Seed Fund and East Hill Management LLC
    respectively);
    • The company has also received significant public subsidy, including more than
    £2.5 million in grants from the UK government-funded Biotechnology and
    Biological Sciences Research Council (BBSRC), mostly for joint projects with
    Oxford University;
    Oxitec has made misleading statements repeatedly in the media that its GM
    mosquitoes are sterile;

    Oxitec has played a key role in developing risk assessment processes for its own
    products and has omitted or downplayed some serious potential adverse effects
    of its technology in these risk assessment processes;
    Oxitec is developing a GM version of a second species of dengue-carrying
    mosquito (the Asian Tiger mosquito) because it is aware that this mosquito could
    occupy the ecological niche vacated by reductions in numbers of the first species
    it is targeting. This second species is more invasive and can carry more
    diseases;

    Decisions to invest in mass-production facilities for GM mosquitoes in
    Oxfordshire, speed Oxitec’s products through regulatory processes, and begin
    experimental releases in open field trials have been taken by Oxitec’s venture
    capital investors and grant funders in London, Oxford and Boston, rather than by
    the company’s potential customers or people living in dengue-infected areas.


    Quote Oxitec’s technology

    Oxitec’s patented technique for genetically modifying insects is known as RIDL (Release of Insects carrying a Dominant Lethal genetic system). These GM insects are intended to be used as a form of biological control to reduce natural populations of the target insect when released into the wild.



    p.s. last but not least http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post767402

    Quote 4th December 2013 11:32

    ...Oxitech is using dengue fever as an excuse to perform illegal human experimentation in Africa by exposing innocent people to their GMO mosquitoes.
    these non-native mosquitoes are regulated by the bacteria Wolbachia. This allegedly prevents them from breeding in the wild.
    Unfortunately, the antibiotics in cat food, which many people erringly keep outside, kill the Wolbachia very well and mosquitoes will land on cat food when they can get it.
    Therefore, the mosquitoes are effectively infecting humans and animals with Wolbachia, then purging themselves of the infection and reproducing in the wild.

    Kids end up getting bitten, and if they don't get that weird Dengue hemorrhagic fever (covered up and called Ebola during Olympics), they get River Blindness anyway (but the severe childhood form is being called "African Nodding Disease").


    I hope you guys understand some of that and why I am concerned about these "multi-stage" human experiments.
    The corporate Nazis think that if they do a human test in stages, we won't recognize the whole.
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    Default Re: Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

    Antibody enhanced DHF (Dengue Hemorrhagic Fever) infection is nothing to trivialize.. If thats what Mr. Rod Ogilvie has.. Without the hospital or the doctor evaluating the "infection" Dr. Denise Werker, the province's deputy chief medical health officer, explaining exactly what he came back with, in the stewardship role of "Public Safety Interests", we just don't know..

    What exactly does he have and came back with to Canada? If there is a hazard there, the public should be kept informed. They aren't wearing hot-papa suits for nothing..

    (Example, from Ft. Dietrick's bio level 4 labs)


    She had reported, "Tests for Ebola, Lassa, Crimean-Congo and Marburg viruses came up negative".

    So that leaves Rift Valley Hemorrhagic Fever (RVF), Leptospirosis, or a form of Meningococcal meningitis.. Erythromycin would be the antibiotic of choice for a phase 2 bacterial infection of Leptospirosis for some of the symptoms indicated.

    However they were reporting organ failure with the other "ebola-like symptoms" - that then suggests DHV or RVF..
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    Default Re: Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

    Update on the Ebola Outbreak in West Africa - 8 April 2014

    "The West African Ebola outbreak — which the World Health Organization (WHO) calls “one of the most challenging” it has ever faced — has now infected an estimated 178 people in Guinea and Liberia, and another 600 may have been exposed to the deadly virus and will require monitoring.

    "But emergency responders find they are fighting more than just a virus, which has so far killed as many as 111 people."


    ref: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/20..._says_who.html - "Challenging", says World Health Organization

    and

    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/20...ion_wards.html - deaths in Guinea


    "Amid Ebola’s near-certain death sentence, fear and panic have spread.

    "Passengers fled a bus after an elderly man vomited on board. In Liberia, one market emptied out when people falsely believed they could catch the disease simply from breathing the same air as victims. In Liberia’s capital, Monrovia, cashiers at one grocery store wore rubber gloves to protect themselves.

    "In southern Guinea, church pews are now empty on Sundays. People are fearful of shaking hands and instead make the sign of the cross when they greet a friend or loved one.

    “Here it’s like time has stopped. Every day is potentially dangerous for us. And it’s only God who can save us from this disease,” said Lalla Balde, who lives in Macenta.

    “We don’t know what sin we have committed so that the Ebola fever has befallen us,” said another resident, Cece Lohalamou. “We already have enough problems here."

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    Default Re: Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

    Chapare Virus, is a newly Discovered Arenavirus Isolated from a Fatal Hemorrhagic Fever Case in Bolivia.

    ref: PLoS Pathog 4(4): e1000047, April 2008. Available at http://www.plospathogens.org), CDC believes the Chapare virus should be added to the list of potential bio-warfare "select agents" and toxins.

    The select agents and toxins that were first listed in part 73 included ‘‘South American Haemorrhagic Fever viruses (Junin, Machupo, Sabia, Flexal, Guanarito).’’

    South American Arenaviruses are rodent-borne viruses, some of which can be associated with large haemorrhagic fever outbreaks, and untreated case fatalities can be in excess of 30 percent. - ref: http://www.selectagents.gov/resources/Chapare%20FRN.pdf - "(US) Federal Register/ Vol. 74, No. 159 / Wednesday, August 19, 2009"

    Background:

    In December 2003 and January 2004, a small number of South American haemorrhagic fever cases were reported in rural Bolivia.

    Specimens were available from one fatal case, which had a clinical course that included fever, headache, arthralgia, myalgia, and vomiting with subsequent deterioration and multiple haemorrhagic signs.

    Isolated virus from two patient serum samples were tested for genetic similarity with other Clade B arenaviruses known to cause haemorrhagic fever.

    The complete genome analysis showed that the virus identified was a distinct new virus, subsequently named Chapare. Chapare virus was found to be most closely related to Sabia virus (causative agent for Brazilian haemorrhagic fever).

    The CDC contact information on this virus is: Robbin Weyant, Director, Division of Select Agents and Toxins, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 1600 Clifton Road, NE., Mailstop A46, Atlanta, GA 30333. Telephone: (404) 718–2000.

    "Chapare virus has been phylogenetically identified as a Clade B arenavirus and is closely related to other currently regulated South American arenaviruses that cause haemorrhagic fever, particularly Sabia virus."

    A good reference to keep aware of what happens and is needed to happen in Class IV biohazard labs: http://www.selectagents.gov/Biosafet...oratories.html - this has links, one of which directs to: http://www.cdc.gov/biosafety/publications/bmbl5/

    The full document on that page is retrieved at: http://www.cdc.gov/biosafety/publica...bmbl5/BMBL.pdf

    Of particular interest to this Thread: http://www.cdc.gov/biosafety/publica...ect_VIII_e.pdf - that goes over the various issues with Viruses, exposures, vectors, handling.. This document goes over all the "fears" and issues about planetwide viral epidemic/pandemic possible "events" and those issues (not the subject of this thread, but would be good for another separate thread).

    What was interesting in the pdf above, pointed out were the agency understood and used "anti-viral treatment" substances that are used for laboratory personnel during an emergency exposure or outbreak. Those are: Antiviral drugs (e.g., oseltamivir, amantadine, rimantadine, zanamivir, ribavarin). The first 4 were suggested to be used to deal with the 1918 pandemic strain of Flu (Spanish flu)

    There is a list that they say are absolute NO-NO's : http://www.selectagents.gov/resource...2013-09-10.pdf - "HHS AND USDA SELECT AGENTS AND TOXINS"

    LOCATION where found in BOLIVIA

    Method of transfer, rodents, feces, urine, direct contact, contaminated feed exposed to infected rodents


    Regional distribution (General Hemorrhagic Fevers Bolivia)


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    Default Re: Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

    Africa Outbreak Map

    I dropped by Flutrackers for an update after seeing this outbreak appeared starting after the ping from flight 370...



    you can see one of the pings were just offshore from the outbreak...


    but, after a quick check, Ebola breakouts happen every other year in Africa and this outbreak started back in February so not related...

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    Default Re: Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

    Rocky, this post link has some interesting dates as to the outbreak cycles where it appears to be worst..

    The west African variant I still haven't heard if it is from the Zaire strain, or the Ugandan strain..

    The other significant which I still can't sort out, is if there was disinformation on the two ex-SEALS found dead on the cargo ship off Seychelles earlier in Feb, if that at all relates, or if this is simply an accident from a natural reservoir being exposed (i.e. eating infected "bats").. And the Canadian that came back from Liberia with something that they say ISN'T the normally expected Ebola or Marburg, or Crimean viri..(But they wont' say what it is). finding those dots to connect which really connect to the actual source of the outbreak would be useful for folks I believe.

    ED UPDATE: see post below - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post824090 this outbreak as described in the OP #1 is in fact a new strain of the Ebola - this is significant.
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    Default Re: Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

    Quote Posted by Bobd (here)
    8 April 2014

    "The West African Ebola outbreak [...] has now infected an estimated 178 people in Guinea and Liberia
    I posted this on another thread:

    Guinea's first Ebola survivors return to family
    Reuters - Apr 8, 2014

    On Saturday, the 18-year-old mother of three Rose Komano became the first victim to have beaten the disease in the region of Gueckedou.

    Eight people have now recovered from the Ebola virus, according to medical tests.

    Lucky genes and intensive medical care helped Komano become one of the handful to escape death.

    Other patients were cleared to go home from the Donko hospital in Conakry last week in what the World Health Organisation (WHO) dubbed "Lazarus" cases - after the Biblical figure restored to life by Jesus.

    Komano's 12-year-old niece and her sister are also recovering as the levels of virus in their blood fall.

    (Related thread: projectavalon.net/WHO-secrecy-over-Ebola-exposed-by-email-exchange)

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    Lassa Fever in Minneapolis - http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/20...ssa-fever.html -
    Updated April 7, 2014

    Lassa Fever Reported in U.S. Traveler Returning from West Africa - For Immediate Release: Friday, April 4, 2014
    Contact: CDC Media Relations - Centers for Disease Control
    (404) 639-3286

    The CDC and the Minnesota Department of Health (MDH) have confirmed a diagnosis of Lassa fever in a person returning to the United States from West Africa. The patient was admitted to a hospital in Minnesota on March 31 with symptoms of fever and confusion. Blood samples submitted to CDC tested positive for Lassa fever on April 3. The patient is recovering and is in stable condition.

    “This imported case is a reminder that we are all connected by international travel. A disease anywhere can appear anywhere else in the world within hours,” said CDC Director Tom Frieden, M.D., M.P.H.

    more on Lassa from CDC - http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/lassa/

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    The Ebola outbreak reported in the OP (post 1) has been classified as a NEW STRAIN of the virus - http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A3G11W20140417

    (Reuters) - An Ebola outbreak blamed for 135 deaths in West Africa in the past month was not imported from Central Africa but caused by a new strain of the disease, a study in a U.S. medical journal said, raising the specter of further regional epidemics.

    "The spread of Ebola from a remote corner of Guinea to the capital and into neighboring Liberia, the first deadly outbreak reported in West Africa, has caused panic across a region struggling with weak healthcare systems and porous borders.

    "Ebola is endemic to Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda, South Sudan and Gabon, and scientists initially believed that Central Africa's Zaire strain of the virus was responsible for the outbreak.

    "Using analysis of blood samples from infected patients, however, researchers determined that while the Guinean form of the Ebola virus (EBOV) showed a 97 percent similarity to the Zaire strain, the disease was not introduced from Central Africa. (this is significant)

    "This study demonstrates the emergence of a new EBOV strain in Guinea," wrote the group of more than 30 doctors and scientists, who published their preliminary findings on the website of the New England Journal of Medicine."

    Gambia earlier this month banned Banjul-bound aircraft from picking up passengers in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone.

    More on the new strain of the Ebola - http://www.medpagetoday.com/Infectio...sDisease/45296

    "Günther and colleagues studied samples from 15 patients and concluded the virus affecting them is a novel version of ebolavirus, which has five species: Zaire ebolavirus (or EBOV), Sudan ebolavirus, Bundibugyo ebolavirus, Reston ebolavirus, and Tai Forest ebolavirus.

    "The first three have caused major outbreaks in Africa, while the Tai Forest species has been responsible for a single human case, and the Reston species, which circulates in the Philippines, affects nonhuman primates but not people.

    "The version in the current outbreak is 97% identical to strains from the Democratic Republic of Congo and Gabon, but is a separate grouping with the EBOV clade, Günther and colleagues found."
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    Tai Valley Ebola Virus - from Ivory Coast - Cote D'Ivoire Outbreaks


    A reserve located in southwest Cote d'Ivoire near the Liberian border, this area harbors another unique strain of the Ebola Virus. Within this reserve exists a troop of Chimpanze. The troop has been infected and dying from Ebola. As the Chimpanzee's hunt other monkeys for meat, it is assumed that they caught the virus by eating an infected smaller monkey who could have consumed bats, or fruit infected by bats that harbored the virus.

    In 1994 a Swiss biologist performing a necropsy on one of the infected Chimps became ill with the Ebola. It took her about 6 weeks to recover with treatment in Switzerland. A tribal chief was infected in 1995. Tests showed Ebola after some mistaken early diagnosis of yellow fever or cholera.

    ref:http://www.stanford.edu/group/virus/filo/eboci.html and Le Guenno, Bernard, P. Formenty, and C. Boesch. "Ebola Virus Outbreaks in the Ivory Coast and Liberia, 1994-1995."


    Map above showing distribution

    ref: Apes (Gorillas) passing ebola around in the troop - http://www.naturalsciences.be/scienc...tgorilla/ebola

    "The first recorded outbreak of Ebola occurred in Sudan (due to the so called Ebola Sudan subtype), near the border with the Democratic Republic of the Congo, between June and November 1976. A second outbreak occurred in the same region 3 years later, between July and October 1979. "

    Meanwhile (August and November 1976), an outbreak due to E. Zaire occurred in DRC, near the borders with Sudan and the Central African Republic. (see map above)

    This previously unknown disease was named for the river Ebola, which flows past Yambuku (epicentre of the outbreak in "DRC" - Democratic Republic of the Congo).

    E. Zaire strain made a second but restricted appearance (only one case recorded) in DRC in June 1977.

    After a 15-year period in which no further cases were recorded, Ebola re-emerged in 1994 for a 3-year period.

    This new phase was marked by the identification of a new subtype, E. Ivory Coast (Tai Valley Ebola), and by an escalation of outbreaks due to the E. Zaire strain.

    Ebola outbreak was recorded in the chimpanzees of Tai National Park (Ivory Coast) in June 1994 (Formenty et al., 1999), and an ethnologist became ill after autopsying a chimpanzee found dead in the Tai forest. It was the first and only human case observed in West Africa, and the only case clearly attributed to E. Ivory Coast (Tai Valley Ebola).

    25% of the 43 chimpanzees in the studied community were recorded to have died from the virus (Formenty et al., 1999).

    Regarding the strain of E. Zaire Ebola, the first outbreak of this period occurred in the town of Kikwit, about 500 km from Kinshasa (DRC), while three further outbreaks occurred in northeast Gabon: in Mekouka between 1994 and 1995, Mayibout in early 1996, and Booué between 1996 and 1997.

    Though there are no proofs; those outbreaks in humans are suspected to be linked to a drastic decline recorded in great ape abundance in the Minkebe forest (Huijbregts & al., 2003).

    "Indeed, Lahm (2000) reported a decrease of 90% in gorilla and 98% in chimpanzee abundance compare to her previous observations in the same area - before the 1994 and 1996 Ebola epidemics."
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    7 years ago in Uganda, Africa, another new strain of Ebola Virus appeared - called Bundibugyo ebolavirus.

    ref: http://www.plospathogens.org/article...l.ppat.1000212

    "Over the past 30 years, Zaire and Sudan ebolaviruses have been responsible for large hemorrhagic fever (HF) outbreaks with case fatalities ranging from 53% to 90%, while a third species, Côte d'Ivoire ebolavirus, caused a single non-fatal HF case. (See post above).

    "In November 2007, HF cases were reported in Bundibugyo District, Western Uganda.

    "Laboratory investigation of the initial 29 suspect-case blood specimens by classic methods (antigen capture, IgM and IgG ELISA) and a recently developed random-primed pyrosequencing approach quickly identified this to be an Ebola HF (Hemorrhagic Fever) outbreak associated with a newly discovered ebolavirus species (Bundibugyo ebolavirus) distantly related to the Côte d'Ivoire ebolavirus found in western Africa."


    Bundibugyo Ebola killed 42 people in Uganda.

    From ref: http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/20...ugandan-ebola/ - Ebola resurfaces in Uganda in 2012. This time the strain was Ebola Sudan, from the country north of Uganda.

    An experimental Vaccine, http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2010...inst-new-virus has been found that totally protected monkeys against Bundibugyo Ebola.

    What is interesting, the vaccine specifically was designed to protect against the Zaire and Sudan species of Ebola. Both are very different from the new Bundibugyo virus – as much as 43 percent different, in terms of genetic sequences.

    Here is how it was made:
    The vaccine contains pieces of the protein-sugar coat (glycoprotein) from the Zaire and Sudan viruses, inserted into a type of common cold virus.

    The cold virus carries the Ebola glycoprotein into cells of the vaccine recipients – in this case four macaques in a maximum-security lab at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases, or USAMRIID, at Fort Detrick, Maryland.

    Once infected, the monkeys' immune cells chop the Ebola glycoprotein into small pieces and display them on their surface, where they stimulate a response from other immune cells.

    The monkeys got four "priming" shots, followed a year later with a booster shot.

    Four other macaques got no vaccine. All eight animals were inoculated with ordinarily lethal doses of the new Ebola virus. The vaccinated animals all survived, and the unvaccinated monkeys all died.

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    The Ministry of Health (MoH) of Guinea - 23 April 14 - CDC Reporting (Centers for Disease Control)

    The Ministry of Health (MoH) of Guinea reported 208 suspect and confirmed cases of Ebola hemorrhagic fever (EHF), including 136 deaths, on April 20, 2014 according to the World Health Organization (WHO).

    Of these suspect cases, 112 have been laboratory confirmed positive cases of Ebola hemorrhagic fever (EHF).

    One additional health care worker has been reported among the suspect and confirmed cases bringing the total to 25, including 16 deaths. Other districts reporting suspect and confirmed cases remain Guekedou, Macenta, Kissidougou, Dabola, and Djingaraye.

    WHO reports that the Ministry of Health and Social Welfare (MOHSW) of Liberia announced the cumulative total of suspect and confirmed cases of EHF is 34, including 11 deaths, on April 21, 2014. Six (6) samples have tested positive for Ebola virus. Samples from Mali and Sierra Leone have, thus far, been negative for Ebola virus though investigations and monitoring of reports of suspect cases is ongoing.

    Médecins sans Frontières (MSF/Doctors without Borders) is helping the Ministry of Health of Guinea in establishing treatment and isolation centers in the epicenter of the outbreak.

    In Liberia, several international organizations including the International Red Cross (IRC), Pentecostal Mission Unlimited (PMU)-Liberia, and Samaritan’s Purse (SP) Liberia are aiding the MOHSW of Liberia by supporting awareness campaigns and providing personal protective equipment (PPE) for healthcare workers.

    The Institute Pasteur in Lyon, France, the Institut Pasteur in Dakar, Senegal, the European Consortium mobile laboratory, and the Metabiota supported laboratory in Kenema (Sierra Leone) and Monrovia (Liberia), and CDC Atlanta are some of the laboratories collaborating to test samples.

    CDC is in regular communication with its international partners, WHO, and MSF regarding the outbreak. Currently CDC has a 7 person team in Guinea and a 3 person team in Liberia assisting the respective MOHs and the WHO-led international response to this Ebola outbreak.





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    8 May Update WHO - EBOLA outbreak

    Guinea

    As of 18:00 on 5 May 2014, the Ministry of Health (MOH) of Guinea has reported a cumulative total of 235 clinical cases of Ebola Virus Disease (EVD), including 157 deaths. There has been no change in the number of cases confirmed by ebolavirus PCR (127 cases) since the last update of 2 May 2014, but there have been two additional deaths: one among the confirmed cases and the other among the probable cases. This brings the number of deaths to 83. There have been no new probable or suspected cases. In addition, 55 cases (34 deaths) are classified as suspected cases. As of 7 May, one patient remains in isolation in Conakry and one in Guekedou. The date of isolation of the most recent confirmed cases is 26 April in Conakry and 1 May in Guekedou.

    The geographical distribution of clinical cases of EVD since the beginning of the outbreak is as follows: Conakry (53 cases, including 24 deaths), Guekedou (149/107), Macenta (22/16), Kissidougou (6/5), Dabola (4/4), and Djingaraye (1/1). There have been no new cases of EVD in Kissidougou since 1 April, Macenta since 9 April, and Conakry since 22 April. In Djingaraye and Dabola, no new cases have been reported since the end of March 2014.

    The cumulative total of laboratory confirmed cases and deaths since the beginning of the outbreak is: Conakry (40 cases, including 20 deaths); Guekedou (72/51); Macenta (13/10); Kissidougou (1/1); and Dabola (1/1). The analysis of the epidemiological data during the last three weeks shows that the number of new cases is decreasing in Guekedou.

    EVD prevention and control activities continue in Guekedou. These include: a suite of innovative community sensitization and social mobilization activities with community leaders, mining companies, banks, schools and universities, and local nongovernmental organizations; the dissemination of awareness messages through rural community radio and posters; the screening of films on EVD; and providing education about EVD door-to-door in affected villages or neighborhoods.

    The numbers of cases and contacts remain subject to change due to consolidation of case, contact and laboratory data, enhanced surveillance activities, and contact tracing activities. The recent introduction of ebolavirus serology to test PCR negative clinical cases is also likely to change the final number of laboratory confirmed cases.

    As the incubation period for EVD can be up to three weeks, it is likely that the Guinean health authorities will report new cases in the coming weeks and additional suspected cases may also be identified in neighbouring countries.

    Liberia

    There has been no change in the epidemiological situation in Liberia. The Ministry of Health and Social Welfare (MOHSW) of Liberia has reported that there are no current alerts of viral haemorrhagic fever (VHF)-like illness in Liberia. Active surveillance activities continue. As of 5 May, 152 contacts have completed 21 days of follow-up and been discharged from medical surveillance.

    Sierra Leone

    As of 7 May, no cases of EVD have been confirmed in Sierra Leone. From 16 March to 7 May 2014, the Ministry of Health and Sanitation (MOHS) of Sierra Leone has tested 106 patients presenting with a VHF-like illness for EVD and Lassa fever. No cases of EVD have been detected using ebolavirus PCR assays while 10 patients have been confirmed with a Lassa fever virus infection. Lassa fever is endemic in Sierra Leone. Thirty-five (35 contacts) have been traced; 15 have completed 21 days of follow-up and have been discharged from medical surveillance; and 20 are under follow up.

    EVD preparedness and response training has been provided to 375 health-care workers, including senior district-level nursing staff, primary health-care staff, senior hospital-based nurses and clinicians, and hospital superintendents. Personal protective equipment has been prepositioned in all district hospitals, selected private and mission hospitals, and the Armed Forces hospital. Active surveillance activities continue, including the investigation of all rumours of VHF-like illness.

    REF for more information: http://www.who.int/csr/don/2014_05_08_ebola/en/

    WHO response

    WHO continues to support the Ministries of Health of Guinea and Liberia in their EVD prevention and control activities. As of 7 May, 113 experts have been deployed to assist in the response. This includes 54 experts deployed through the global WHO surge mechanism, 33 international experts from among partner institutions of the Global Outbreak Alert and Response Network (GOARN), 10 externally recruited consultants, 16 WHO staff who were locally repurposed. Expertise has been mobilized in the areas of coordination, medical anthropology, clinical case management, data management and health informatics, surveillance and epidemiology, infection prevention and control, laboratory services, logistics, risk communications, social mobilization, finance and administration, and resource mobilization.

    To date, 88 experts have been deployed to Guinea, 21 to Liberia, one to Sierra Leone, and three to the WHO Regional Office for Africa.

    An additional, 12 deployments are in the pipeline in the disciplines of medical anthropology, clinical case management, surveillance and epidemiology, laboratory services, logistics, and risk and media communications.

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    Korean Haemorrhagic fever (KHF) outbreaks - further research on diseases of unknown etiology appearing worldwide


    This clearly comes under the question BIOWEAPON, ACCIDENT or Natural Causes..

    http://www.itg.be/internet/ebola/ebola-53.htm

    Source of material: HO WANG LEE
    The Institute for Viral Diseases, Korea University Medical College, Seoul, South Korea



    NOTE the SHADED areas of this MAP

    KHF has not been described previously in Korea before 1951, but some workers consider that its epidemicity and pathogenesis suggest the possibility of endemic disease before 1950 and it may had been missed because of lack of knowledge and its rare occurrences in rural areas due to special ecology.

    After the Korean War, the disease was designated as endemic in the area of DMZ and since then has gradually spread southwesterly.

    A conspicuous increase in the number of the civilian cases was observed in 1970's. However, most cases are still reported near the area of the DMZ where Korean soldiers are stationed.

    However, considering its epidemiological changing status of KHF for the past 25 years, the imported germ theory in which it originates possibly from North-Eastern part of Asia in the period of Korean War, could not be excluded.

    The reservoir of KHF in the endemic areas in Korea is Apodemus agrarius coreae (mouse). There are about 7 species of field rodents in the endemic areas of KHF but only Apodemus species contained KHF agent.

    In 1951 there were 827 US forces affected by this HKF infection.

    In 1954 there were 307 US forces affected and 19 Korean civilians affected.

    The numbers continued to increase and decrease throughout the period up to about 1975 where afterwards the statistics were not being reported for the article.

    Summarizing the statistics, from 1951 - 1975, there were 2,906 US forces infected, 4,083 Korean military forces infected, 2,352 civilians infected.

    WEAPONS DEVELOPMENT (and by whom)

    ETIOLOGIC AGENT

    In early 1940's Japanese and Russians successfully reproduced hemorrhagic fever by injection of urine and sera of the patients in the acute stage into monkeys and volunteers. Filtered sera of the patients were also produced clinical symptoms, so this disease has been suspected as being of viral origin.

    Many attempts have been made to isolate the causative agent of KHF and clinically similar diseases.

    A Russian report of cultivation of a virus in cell cultures from patients with hemorrhagic nephrosonephritis (kidney damage) has not been confirmed.

    In 1976 Lee and Lee succeeded in demonstrating an antigen in the lungs and kidneys of the Apodemus agrarius collected in the endemic foci, which gave specific immunofluorescent reaction with convalescent sera from KHF patients and named it as the Korea antigen.

    Very recently, Lee et al. have demonstrated that this antigen is the etiologic agent of KHF and is produced by a replicating microbe.

    It passes 0.1 micro millipore filter and antibiotics are ineffective. (THIS IS VERY SMALL)

    Under the electron microscope round virus-like particles of about 50 nanometers in diameter can be observed in crystalline array at the cytoplasm of infected pulmonary epithelia of Apodemus as shown in this image:


    All attempts to establish the KHF agent in hosts other than Apodemus agrarius have been unsuccessful.

    Various species of laboratory animals as well as more than 20 types of cell cultures all failed to show specific immunofluorescent antibody staining after inoculation of the agent.

    (This could possibly suggest that the disease could be harbored undetected in other animals than the specific rodent).

    Apodemus agrarius coreae infected either naturally or experimentally have never showed the clinical symptoms.

    When KHF agent is inoculated the agent begins to appear at lungs 10 days later.

    After then it can be identified at kidneys, liver and submaxillary glands.

    The most amount of agent can be detected toward 20 days, and then start to decline gradually. However, it was still able to be detected after day-60.

    The agent was serially propagated in Apodemus agrarius and a study on characteristics of the agent is in progress.

    Immunofluorescent antibody responses to KHF agent after subcutaneous inoculation into rabbits were demonstrated and, the antibodies started to appear at 7 days, reached maximum at 14 days and declined slowly by 60 days.

    SUMMARY

    Hemorrhagic fevers with renal syndrome are being reported from many parts of the world. It has been reviewed and discussed on KHF and similar diseases which occur all over the Asian and European Continents.

    The number of KHF patients in not only soldiers but also civilians tend to increase every year.

    So it is urgent need to take some measures to prevent this disease.

    Recently the etiological agent of KHF was isolated, the natural reservoir was demonstrated as Apodemus agrarius coreae and the serological diagnosis also comes to be available, by means of immunofluorescent antibody technique.

    The etiological agent did not react with the antisera of arenaviruses but did with convalescent sera of Japanese epidemic hemorrhagic fever and Soviet hemorrhagic nephrosonephritis patients, showing close serological relationship.

    The relationship between KHF and the similar diseases of unknown etiology occurring in Scandinavia and Eurasia remains to be answered.
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    Death toll from Ebola in Sierra Leone more than doubles

    The outbreak had started over in Guinea, and was on the border of Sierra Leone, however reports now coming in say there is an increase in the spread.

    The death toll from Ebola in Sierra Leone has doubled to at least 12 in a week, local health authorities said on Monday, deepening the spread of a disease that has killed over 200 people in Guinea and Liberia.

    Amara Jambai, Sierra Leone's Director of Disease Prevention and Control, said all the confirmed deaths in Sierra Leone were in the east, mainly in the Kailahun district on the border with Guinea.

    "It is very difficult for us to ascertain community deaths at this moment, but the 12 deaths are the ones the hospital can definitely confirm to have died of Ebola," Jambai said.

    ref: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/0...-than-doubles/


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    More information on Sierra Leone Ebola outbreak

    http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-persp...eone-triple-50

    From Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy report, cases of Ebola virus disease (EVD) in Sierra Leone have more than tripled in just 3 days, from 16 reported on May 27 to 50 reported today by the World Health Organization (WHO). The agency also reported 10 new EVD cases in Guinea and 1 in Liberia.

    The post above mentioned the DEATHS have jumped up (doubled), and the cases have tripled (those with confirmed virus infection).

    Apparently the disease has not been burning itself out as previously hoped.

    Guinea cases approach 300
    Guinea's 10 new cases bring the country's total to 291, including 193 fatal cases. The WHO broke down the cases as 172 confirmed (including 108 deaths), 71 probable (62 fatal), and 48 suspected (23 fatal). Seven of the 10 new cases were fatal.

    Areas with the most EVD cases are Gueckedou prefecture, with 179 cases; Conakry, the capital, with 53; and Macenta prefecture, with 40. Investigators are following up with 493 contacts, the WHO said.

    The agency did not specify where the new cases were detected but said in the update, "The current evolving epidemiological situation could be partly explained by persistent community resistance in some communities in Gueckedou, Macenta, and Conakry."

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    Now it's up to 600 since March and they're saying that the situation is "out of control". I know this virus is not as contagious as, for example, Sars, but all virus' mutate and one wonders if they know in which ways it could do that. I mean, supposing it mutates in such a way that the incubation period is stretched out more than it is at 21 days? Or if it becomes more contagious and the list goes on and on. The more this virus spreads, the potential for it mutating to the point where there's no chance for survivor's is, of course the most common concern whenever there's a potential for a world-wide pandemic. But I'm just speaking off the top of my head because, so far, there hasn't been anything in the news about it potentially mutating into a stronger strain but having said this, it's surprising that a virus like this one with a 21 day incubation period has not only been not contained yet but is spreading all over the place in that region!

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    Just found this bit of information wrt to my questions about it mutating...

    Quote What is the probability of a dangerous strain of Ebola mutating and becoming airborne?


    Ebola is made of RNA. RNA viruses are known to undergo rapid genetic changes. The three most common mechanisms are:

    Nucleotide substitutions resulting from purportedly high error rates during RNA synthesis;
    Reassortment of the RNA segments of multipartite genomic viruses
    RNA-RNA recombination between non-segmented RNAs


    The Ebola virus can use only the first and the third mechanisms as it has only one segment of RNA by capsid. To become "airborne", the Ebola genome (RNA) would, at least, have to mutate in such a way that its outer protective coating of proteins (capsid) could resist the forces to which they are subjected in air (e.g., dryness). It also would probably need to change structure to allow infection through the respiratory system. There are no exact measures of the rate of mutation in Ebola, but the probability of the required mutation(s) happening is not great.
    http://www.brettrussell.com/personal..._chances_.html
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    Viral mutation in the "wild", naturally does happen, but engineered viruses in bio-weapons labs, despite "prevention treaties" (gentlemans agreement not to develop a weapon of mass destruction, or "else" (or else what, a hand slap?)) these engineered viruses are custom tailored to be spreadable.. the trick is to find the antidote unless one is making a planetary wide - KILL switch, the doomsday device.. Russia had worked on doomsdays devices to hold for ransom the rest of the world. The idea is "nothing to loose", the reality is sufficiently hopeless, possibly the "other side" will give in to a threat push..

    I have some very good friends who are virologists, experts in the field, and they have said, a bacteria or a virus can be designed to do just about anything..

    'Drastic action is needed' now to stop Ebola epidemic' is the title of the article today.

    "The World Health Organization says "drastic action is needed" to stop the deadly Ebola virus outbreak in West Africa. It has sent teams of experts to help locals deal with the epidemic and WHO plans to meet next week to discuss how to contain it.

    Relief workers on the ground said the epidemic has hit unprecedented proportions."

    "There have been at least 600 cases and 390 deaths in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia, according to a WHO statement released Thursday. That's since the epidemic began in March, according to the latest World Health Organization figures."

    Earlier in this thread we tracked other outbreaks and epidemics and have shown the time period to "burn out".

    ref: http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/26/health...k-west-africa/




    Quote Posted by Roisin (here)
    Now it's up to 600 since March and they're saying that the situation is "out of control". I know this virus is not as contagious as, for example, Sars, but all virus' mutate and one wonders if they know in which ways it could do that. I mean, supposing it mutates in such a way that the incubation period is stretched out more than it is at 21 days? Or if it becomes more contagious and the list goes on and on. The more this virus spreads, the potential for it mutating to the point where there's no chance for survivor's is, of course the most common concern whenever there's a potential for a world-wide pandemic. But I'm just speaking off the top of my head because, so far, there hasn't been anything in the news about it potentially mutating into a stronger strain but having said this, it's surprising that a virus like this one with a 21 day incubation period has not only been not contained yet but is spreading all over the place in that region!

    ---------------------------------------------
    Just found this bit of information wrt to my questions about it mutating...

    Quote What is the probability of a dangerous strain of Ebola mutating and becoming airborne?


    Ebola is made of RNA. RNA viruses are known to undergo rapid genetic changes. The three most common mechanisms are:

    Nucleotide substitutions resulting from purportedly high error rates during RNA synthesis;
    Reassortment of the RNA segments of multipartite genomic viruses
    RNA-RNA recombination between non-segmented RNAs


    The Ebola virus can use only the first and the third mechanisms as it has only one segment of RNA by capsid. To become "airborne", the Ebola genome (RNA) would, at least, have to mutate in such a way that its outer protective coating of proteins (capsid) could resist the forces to which they are subjected in air (e.g., dryness). It also would probably need to change structure to allow infection through the respiratory system. There are no exact measures of the rate of mutation in Ebola, but the probability of the required mutation(s) happening is not great.
    http://www.brettrussell.com/personal..._chances_.html

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