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    Default Re: Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

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    What is the mechanism of the Hemorrhagic Fever?

    It is not a kind death. It will be described below as well as the issues which have to be dealt with.. Consider how long one's sore throat lasted, and consider the effects below and look at and test, is what one has as a solution able to deal with what is happening.

    Why?

    It's not like dying in one's sleep, or something like passing from old age, quiet in the company of one's loved ones.

    The hemorrhagic fevers function somewhat similarly (those described in this thread and reiterated in post #154 above.)

    Here are the difficulties encountered by practitioners trying to help a person infected:

    (Consider what each step means and look to see if one has a treatment method which will work to solve that issue - those are the research issues plaguing folks working with these viri)

    Ebola Zaire Mayinga (the full proper name for the Strain) attacks every organ and tissue in the human body except skeletal muscle and bone.

    It is a perfect parasite because it transforms virtually every part of the body into a digested slime of virus particles. The seven mysterious proteins that, assembled together, make up the Ebola-virus particle, work as a relentless machine, a molecular shark, and they consume the body as the virus makes copies of itself. (How is that consumption to be stopped?)

    Small blood clots begin to appear in the bloodstream, and the blood thickens and slows, and clots begin to stick to the walls of blood vessels. This is known as pavementing, because the clots fit together in a mosaic. The mosaic thickens and throws more clots, and the clots drift through the blodstream into the small capillaries, where they get stuck. This shuts off the blood supply to various parts of the body, causing dead spots to appear in the brain, liver, kidneys, lungs, intestines, testicles, breast tissue (of men as well as women), and all through the skin. The skin develops red spots, called petechiae, which are hemorrhages under the skin. Ebola attacks connective tissue with particular ferocity; it multiplies in collagen, the chief constituent protein of the tissue that holds the organs together. (HOW is one going to stop the clotting action, and not induce further hemorrhaging ? )


    Note: The seven Ebola proteins somehow chew up the body's structural proteins. (in other words one's body cannot support itself, its organs, its form. How is the collagen mechanism going to be repaired?)

    In this way, collagen in the body turns to mush, and the underlayers of the skin die and liquefy. The skin bubbles up into a sea of tiny white blisters mixed with red spots known as a maculopapular rash. This rash has been likened to tapioca pudding. Spontaneous rips appear in the skin, and hemorrhagic blood pours from the rips. The red spots on the skin grow and spread and merge to become huge, spontaneous bruises, and the skin goes soft and pulpy, and can tear off if it is touched with any kind of pressure. One's mouth bleeds, and one bleeds around the teeth, and one may have hemorrhages from the salivary glands -- literally every opening in the body bleeds, no matter how small. (How is one going to stop the collagen disintegration, where blood vessels, skin no longer is intact leading to secondary bacterial infections for instance)


    The surface if the tongue turns brilliant red and the sloughs off, and is swallowed or spat out. It is said to be extraordinarily painful to lose the surface of one's tongue.

    The tongue's skin may be torn off during rushes of the black vomit. The back of the throat and the lining of the wind pipe may also slough off, and the dead tissue slides down the windpipe into the lungs or is coughed up with sputum.

    Then the heart bleeds into itself; the heart muscle softens and has hemorrhages into its chambers, and blood squeezes out of the heart muscle as the heart beats, and it floods the chest cavity. (What type of heart lung machine is going to keep a person going when that set of conditions happens? Who has those and is willing to run a person infected on one - what type of containment facility will have such set-up?)

    The brain becomes clogged with dead blood cells, a conditions known as sludging of the brain. (What substances will pass the blood/brain barrier and stop the damage? Can anyone show a study that something has been made which can pass the blood-brain barrier safely and perform the needed repairs?)

    Ebola attacks the lining of the eyeball, and the eyeballs may fill up with blood: one may go blind. Droplets of blood stand out on the eyelids: one may weep blood. The blood runs from the eyes then down the cheeks and refuses to coagulate.

    As the clots and hemorrhaging alternate in the small blood vessels still remaining, one may have a hemispherical stroke, in which one whole side of the body is paralyzed, which is invariably fatal in a case of Ebola.

    Even while the body's internal organs are becoming plugged with coagulated blood, the blood that streams out of the body cannot clot; it resembles whey being squeezed out of curds.

    The blood has been stripped of its clotting factors. (How is one going to restore PROPER normal clotting?)

    If one puts the runny Ebola blood in a test tube and look at it, one will see that the blood is destroyed. Its red cells are broken and dead. The blood looks as if it has been buzzed in an electric blender.

    Ebola kills a great deal of tissue while the host is still alive.

    It triggers a creeping, spotty necrosis that spreads through all the internal organs. The liver bulges up and turns yellow, begins to liquefy, and then it cracks apart. (How is that damaged liver going to be repaired?)

    The cracks run across the liver and deep inside it, and the liver completely dies and goes putrid.

    The kidneys becomes jammed with blood clots and dead cells, and cease functioning. As the kidneys fail, the blood becomes toxic with urine. (How are toxins going to be purified at this point with kidney dialysis? Who has those machines who can deal with a person infected with the Filoviridae (ebola or marburg)..)

    The spleen turns into a single huge, hard blood clot the size of a baseball. (How is the spleen going to recover?)

    The intestines may fill up completely with blood. The lining of the gut dies and sloughs off into the bowels and is defecated along with large amounts of blood. (No more ability to have food absorbed.. How is that going to be repaired, treated, healed?)

    In men, the testicles bloat up and turns black-and-blue, the semen goes hot with Ebola, and the nipples may bleed. In women, the labia turn blue, livid, and protrusive, and there may be massive vaginal bleeding. The virus is a catastrophe for a pregnant woman: the child is aborted spontaneously and is usually infected with Ebola virus, born with red eyes and a bloody nose.

    Ebola destroys the brain more thoroughly than does Marburg, and Ebola victims often go into epileptic convulsions during the final stage. The convulsions are generalized grand mal seizures -- the whole body twitches and shakes, the arms and legs thrash around, and the eyes, sometimes bloody, roll up into the head.

    The tremors and convulsions of the patient may smear or splatter blood around. Possibly this epileptic splashing of blood is one of Ebola's strategies for success -- it makes the victim go into a flurry of seizures as he dies, spreading blood all over the place, thus giving the virus a chance to jump to a new host -- a kind of transmission through smearing.

    Ebola (and Marburg) multiplies so rapidly and powerfully that the body's infected cells become crystal-like blocks of packed virus particles. (How are those crystals going to be safely disrupted?)

    These crystal are broods of virus getting ready to hatch from the cell. They are known as bricks. The bricks, or crystals, first appear near the center of the cell and then migrate towards the surface. As a crystal reaches a cell wall, it disintegrates into hundreds of individual virus particles, and the broodlings push through the cell wall like hair and float away in the bloodstream of the host.

    The hatched Ebola particles cling to cells everywhere in the body, and get inside them, and continue to multiply. It keeps on multiplying until areas of tissue all through the body are filled with crystalloids, which hatch, and more Ebola particles drift into the bloodstream, and the amplification continues inexorably until a droplet of the hosts blood can contain a hundred million individual particles.

    After death, the cadaver suddenly deteriorates: the internal organs, having been dead or partially dead for days, have already begun to dissolve, and a sort of shock-related meltdown occurs. The corpse's connective tissue, skin, and organs, already peppered with dead spots, heated by fever, and damaged by shock, begin to liquefy, and the fluids that leak from the cadaver are saturated with Ebola-virus particles."

    So it seems the diagnosticians, the doctors, the care giver's, everyone in the loop has their hands full, trying to not come down with it themselves..

    EDUCATION is the key here, understanding what it is, why it is here, who stands to benefit from it (and thereby potentially distribute such viri in a bioweapons campaign...)

    Source
    Hi Bob,

    I went to your Source, because I wanted to know if this was from a scientific article.

    It comes from a site: "Ebola Zaire (In all her glory)"

    UPDATE

    I see it comes from this book:

    "The Hot Zone: The Terrifying True Story of the Origins of the Ebola Virus "
    – July 20, 1995 , by Richard Preston (Author)

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Hot-Zone-T.../dp/0385479565

    Here's an extract PDF

    https://e4dd315c8b9b877eb2283220e132...%20excerpt.pdf
    Last edited by heyokah; 13th August 2014 at 14:19. Reason: add UPDATE

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    Lightbulb Re: Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

    In August 2005 information was put out dealing with identification and understanding Hemorrhagic fevers and if they are setup to become bio-weapons.


    From the PDF above -

    VHF viruses as Biological Weapons

    Several countries, including the USA and Russia, have conducted research on weaponizing VHF viruses. Aerosolized VHF preparations are considered potentially suitable as biological weapons because they would have a low infectious dose, would cause high morbidity and mortality, would have the potential for person-to-person transmission, and because effective therapy and vaccines are not always available.

    The two families of viruses of most concern based on mortality and feasibility of production are the filoviruses and the arenaviruses.

    Several species of VHF viruses (dengue, hantavirus, and Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever) are not considered to represent a significant bioterror threat. (Each of those has been discussed in this thread.)

    All of the VHF agents cause sporadic disease or epidemics in areas of endemicity.
    The routes of transmission are variable, but most are zoonotic with spread via arthropod bites or contact with infected animals. Person-to-person spread is a major form of transmission for many of the viruses.

    Ebola hemorrhagic fever (Central Africa) exhibits case-fatality rates of 50-90%. An outbreak among primates occurred in 1991 at a laboratory in Reston, Virginia. The natural reservoirs and exact patterns of transmission of Ebola virus are not known.

    Marburg virus (sub-Saharan Africa) has caused outbreaks in Angola resulting in 451 cases (312 fatal) as of July 10, 2005. As with Ebola, the natural reservoirs and exact patterns of transmission of Marburg virus are not known.

    Rodents are the primary reservoir for Lassa virus (West Africa). Case-fatality rates are lower for Lassa fever than for Ebola and Marburg, and ribavirin has been effective in treating some cases.

    A number of uncommon viruses comprise New World hemorrhagic fever (South America), which appears to be transmitted via contact with rodents or rodent excreta. Three cases of imported Whitewater Arroyo virus were reported in California in 1999-2000; all were fatal.

    Rift Valley fever (sub-Saharan and North Africa) is a mosquito-borne disease of mammals that primarily causes mild illnesses in humans, although meningoencephalitis and retinitis can occur.

    Yellow fever (sub-Saharan Africa and tropical South America) is transmitted by a mosquito vector and causes an estimated 200,000 cases and 30,000 deaths each year in endemic areas. Urban outbreaks with vector-borne transmission have not occurred in the Americas since the 1940’s due to public health programs aimed at eliminating the mosquito vector. Illness ranges from mild to severe, with an overall case-fatality rate of 5% to 7%. A vaccine against yellow fever is available.

    Most clinicians in the United States have little or no clinical experience with the syndromes that characterize VHF. The variable clinical presentation of VHF adds to the challenge.

    With a VHF virus used as a biological weapon, patients are less likely to have risk factors for natural infection such as travel to Africa, Asia, or South America, handling of animal carcasses, contact with sick animals or people, or arthropod bites within 21 days of symptom onset. The observation of a severe illness with bleeding manifestations as its primary feature, which develops as a point-source epidemic with simultaneous presentation of many cases, should be highly suspicious for VHF.

    The diagnosis of viral hemorrhagic fever should be considered for any patient who presents with:

    • Acute onset of fever (<3 weeks duration)
    • Severe prostrating or life-threatening illness
    • Bleeding manifestations (at least two of the following: hemorrhagic or purpuric rash, epistaxis, hematemesis, hemoptysis, blood in stool, or other bleeding)
    • No predisposing factors for a bleeding diathesis

    The differential diagnosis includes:

    • Bacterial and Rickettsial Infections
    • Gram-negative bacterial septicemia
    • Staphylococcal or streptococcal toxic shock syndrome
    • Meningococcemia
    • Secondary syphilis
    • Septicemic plague
    • Typhoid fever
    • Rocky Mountain spotted fever
    • Ehrlichiosis
    • Leptospirosis

    Viral and Parasitic Infections

    • Malaria
    • African trypanosomiasis
    • Hemorrhagic smallpox
    • Measles
    • Hemorrhagic varicella
    • Rubella
    • Viral hepatitis

    Other Conditions
    • Thrombotic or Idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura
    • Acute leukemia
    • Hemolytic uremic syndrome

    All of the above is looked at when trying to determine WHAT IS HAPPENING?

    Many of those conditions would not benefit from taking some other substance that acts like a bacteriostatic for instance.. (Genetic condition involvement in organ difficulty for instance)

    A number of test methods can be used to diagnose VHF. These include: antigen-capture testing by ELISA, IgM antibody testing, paired acute-convalescent serum serologies, PCR, immunohistochemistry methods, and electron microscopy. Viral identification in cell culture is the ‘gold standard’ of viral detection, however this technique is time consuming and extremely dangerous, and should only be attempted by labs with high-level biosafety facilities.

    Diagnosis is via blood or serum testing. For serological testing, avoid collection tubes with citrate, oxalate, or EDTA. For PCR tests, use an EDTA tube. Collect acute-phase specimens within 7 days of illness onset. Collect convalescent-phase specimens 7-20 days later, and at least 14 days after illness onset.

    Marburg and Ebola viruses may be recovered from soft tissue effusions, semen, and anterior eye fluid, especially during later stages of illness. Lassa virus often can be recovered from throat swabs, pleural effusions, placental tissue, and urine and has been demonstrated in CSF of patients with fever and neurologic signs.

    If one is already shedding viral particles taking a substance isn't going to stop the shedding most likely due to the quantities of viral product which is generated per drop of blood. This is the issue with substance overload creating potential toxic damage.. How does one deal with clearing out cell debris from dead or dying cells when the liver and kidneys are failing?

    Treatment
    Supportive care is essential for patients with all types of VHF and includes maintenance of fluid and electrolyte balance, active hemodynamic monitoring, mechanical ventilation, dialysis, and appropriate therapy for secondary infections.

    Treatment of other suspected causes of disease, such as bacterial sepsis, should not be withheld while awaiting confirmation or exclusion of the diagnosis of VHF.

    Anticoagulant therapies, aspirin, nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medications, and intramuscular injections are contraindicated.

    Ribavirin has shown in vitro and in vivo activity against Arenaviruses (Lassa fever, New World hemorrhagic fevers) and Bunyaviruses (Rift Valley fever and others).

    Ribavirin has shown no activity against, and is not recommended for Filoviruses (Ebola and Marburg hemorrhagic fever) or Flaviviruses (Yellow fever, Kyasanur Forest disease, Omsk hemorrhagic fever).

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    What is close contact or accidental contact, or dangerous contact with an Ebola or Marburg infected person?

    According to the Working Group on Civilian Biodefense, exposure is defined as proximity to an initial release of VHF virus, or close or high-risk contact with a patient suspected of having VHF during the 21 days following onset of symptoms. (VHF - Viral Hemorrhagic Fever virus)

    High risk is defined as having mucous membrane contact or having percutaneous injury involving contact with secretions, excretions, or blood from a patient with VHF.

    Close contact is defined as those who live with, shake hands with, hug, process laboratory specimens from, or care for a patient with VHF.

    Filoviruses and arenaviruses are highly infectious after direct contact with infected blood and bodily secretions, and person-to-person transmission has been documented. In Africa, transmission of VHF viruses in healthcare settings has been associated with provision of patient care without appropriate barrier precautions to prevent exposure to virus-containing blood and other body fluids.

    The risk for person-to-person transmission of VHF virus is greatest during the latter stages of illness when virus loads are highest.

    No infection has been reported in persons whose contact with an infected person occurred only during the incubation period (i.e., before onset of fever). (see the previous post describing the symptoms and progression of the disease).

    A good technical article from a clinician's view point is here:

    Google Books Link HERE

    NANO-Particle sizes of these viruses are as follows..

    Filoviridae - 80 nanometers
    Arenaviridae - 100-130 nanometers
    Bunyaviridae - 80-120 nanometers
    Flaviviridae - 40-50 nanometers

    Weapons uses of these VHF's will show up in 2-21 days of the assault.. The rash shows up first along with different spotty bleeding and shock symptoms.

    Last edited by Bob; 9th October 2015 at 07:19.

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    Quote Thu. Aug. 14, 2014 by Jonathan Landsman
    Natural Ebola Virus Solution(NaturalHealth365) Ebola virus disease (EVD), also called ebola hemorrhagic fever, can often be fatal – in its later stages, if poorly treated – due to internal (and external) bleeding, liver and kidney failure. According to the World Health Organization, ebola “is a severe, often fatal illness in humans.” But, the question remains, are we being told everything about this infectious disease?

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    US DoD establishes task force for Ebola watch (Source)

    Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel has established an internal Ebola task force to evaluate how the department can most effectively support overarching U.S. government and international efforts to prevent further transmission of the virus, the Pentagon press secretary said today.

    Michael D. Lumpkin, assistant secretary of defense for special operations and low-intensity conflict, has been appointed to lead the task force.

    There has been no impact to U.S. Africa Command’s operations in Africa as a result of the Ebola virus, Navy Rear Adm. John Kirby told reporters during a news briefing.

    “But clearly, we’re watching this as closely as everybody else is and it’s an inter-agency effort here in the United States,” the admiral said. “It’s not just the Pentagon, it’s CDC, USAID, it’s State Department. I mean, we’re all talking about this and working on this.”


    "A small number of department personnel remain on the ground in West Africa, Kirby said, assigned to the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases in Liberia.

    "They have established diagnostic laboratory capabilities there and have provided personal protective equipment to those involved in testing for the disease, a defense official said. The personnel have also supplied thousands of Ebola test kits to laboratory personnel.

    "No DOD personnel are currently in Sierra Leone, but USAMRIID has established diagnostic laboratory capability there as well."

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    Why VHF (Viral Hemorrhagic Fevers, i.e. Ebola and Marburg) worries the Defence Department..

    (Source)

    The word is BIO-WEAPON..

    "While the public discourse on Ebola has so far been fixated on the public health hazard caused by the disease itself, it may also have awoken an older fear for anti-terror agencies: Could a lethal disease actually be used as a bio-weapon? That fear is made worse by the fact that the current outbreak is occurring near a volatile region that has seen the rise of a variety of terrorist groups nearby such as Boko Haram – the group that abducted more than 200 girls earlier this year.

    "The potential terror risk posed by Ebola does not only add a new dimension to the African outbreak, but it may also speed up efforts to find an effective treatment. "

    THERE IS NO CLINICALLY DOCUMENTED EFFECTIVE TREATMENT that can heal a person from the damage (earlier posts in this thread talk about the sequence of cell and organ damage that happens, and how fast it happens..) from an infection of filoviri, in-vivo (in-the-body). Anecdotal reports are amusing, but not conclusive, in clinical documents which would show effectiveness and SAFETY.. Something that is missing in the current experimental mAB (monoclonal antibody) products being compassionately tested on humans.. With ANY SUBSTANCE, will the substance cause toxic overload? Will the substance induce cancer (nano-particle sized substances can and do damage DNA as viruses do..) Without those studies one could easily create as has been done by VACCINES in the past, terrible side effects..

    (Human guinea pigs apparently are the IN thing these days)

    That is the problem, and the US Defence department has been trying to get all sorts of solutions that deal with an active viral infection of VHF.

    "We have a long standing interest in highly fatal hemorrhagic fevers," Derrick-Frost explained. "Ebola is among a handful of emerging infectious diseases that have historically been explored as a potential biological weapon, and we are closely monitoring these types of infectious diseases."

    The worry has been when the Soviet Bloc fell apart (visibly), is what happened behind the scenes, to the Viral Scientists who were underpaid in Russia - did they seek employment elsewhere, such as for Rogue groups, for Iran, for Boku Haram? That worries the defence departments world wide... The US tried to hire the unemployed scientists, similar to Operation Paperclip, to keep them gainfully employed and not going elsewhere.. but reports about bioweapons researchers being found dead frequent the internet..

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    Medical system reported Overwhelmed - Africa, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Guinea

    "we can not tell, are we exposing doctors nurses to the ebola when any sick person comes in?"

    Yesterday, 14th August 2014, Thursday, the World Health Organization said that official counts, which stand at 1,069 deaths and 1,975 cases, may still "vastly underestimate the magnitude of the outbreak."

    Reports have been, that the numbers are at least 2X under-reported. Fear mostly, remoteness secondarily, taboo another reason.. Education would help immensely if people would trust their tribal leaders to change and be aware that the "evil spirits" can be dealt with, if certain things are done (and not done).

    Seriously, that is what has been needed to reach the under or non-educated people who don't have any effective sanitation, medical care, proper food, sanitary clean water, safe shelter..

    Joanne Liu, international president of Doctors Without Borders, spoke to reporters in Geneva after spending 10 days on the ground in Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea, the three countries most affected by the outbreak.

    Liu called the lack of infrastructure in the West African countries struggling to contain the epidemic an "emergency within the emergency" because people don't have access to basic health care, which creates distrust.

    The flood of patients into every newly opened treatment centre is evidence that the official counts aren't keeping up, Gregory Hartl, a spokesman for the UN health agency, said from Geneva on Friday.

    'My biggest concern is that we are exposing the medical staff over and over again,' says Liu.

    Hartl said that an 80-bed treatment centre opened in Liberia's capital in recent days filled up immediately. The next day, dozens more people showed up to be treated.

    "Over the next six months we should get the upper hand on the epidemic, this is my gut feeling," Liu said.

    That would put this outbreak up to a duration of 11 months to stabilize the situation (meaning it will burn out, and/or no new cases detected, or adequate facilities and procedures to deal with it).. Another 4 months after that?

    from: http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/ebola-...ders-1.2737367 CBC Canada reporting

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    Ignore the image of the person behind the curtain..

    But that is the proper safety protocol, equipment required for a person working with a Class-4 infectious disease.. A BSL-4 biosafety lab needed to be established in the field, and used now with EVERY person coming in sick in western africa.. Or the physicians take the risk with simple gowns, gloves face masks and shields..


    All official organizations from WHO, CDC, ministers of health in assorted countries are downplaying the nature of the disease. "nothing to see here.."

    China says,
    "“Expert: There is no evidence that coffee and onions cure Ebola.”

    "That’s the headline of a public service article on Xinhua (link in Chinese), China’s official news agency, that aims to dispel “internet rumors” about the virus that has killed more than 1,000 people in West Africa.

    "Having thusly dispatched the rumor that a coffee-onion blend can cure the disease, Xinhua took on rumor number two: “Ebola leads to the appearance of the ‘living dead.' "

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    Xinhua’s (Chinese) article finally comforts its readers by assuring them that Ebola is in fact extremely deadly. “The scariest thing about Ebola is the high death rate,” Xinhua concludes. “There have never been cases of Ebola sufferers becoming zombies and attacking people. That can only happen in movies.”

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    I've been following this Ebola thing from nearly the beginning and it's just all over the board conspiracy-wise. Somehow I ran across this short podcast by CorbertReport that I feel makes better sense than most of what I've read/watched so far. I'm posting it here and I apologize if it's already been posted. I'm interested in what you all think about it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szPA9wsakQo

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    Quote Posted by Lone Bean (here)
    I've been following this Ebola thing from nearly the beginning and it's just all over the board conspiracy-wise. Somehow I ran across this short podcast by CorbertReport that I feel makes better sense than most of what I've read/watched so far. I'm posting it here and I apologize if it's already been posted. I'm interested in what you all think about it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szPA9wsakQo
    Please summarize the points of the report - not everyone has the bandwidth to watch video's.. appreciate posting the references cited in the conclusions too.

    --Update:
    Looked at his ARTICLE (current) on his website ColbertReport - it doesn't look any different than any other websites going over all possibilities, nothing is there, hoax, something is there, it is downplayed, and so forth. Basically more information to try to sort thru it seems, and a forum afterwards for folks to weigh in on the "report"..

    I happen to believe the statements coming from "Doctors without Borders", having met one of the key people behind the group a couple years back.. Post above describes Liu's observations being on the ground. It is there, it is growing, and it is under-reported how severe it is, and what the challenges are to contain it. How it got there is said to be from a young child who was the index case, or otherwise known as "patient zero" for this particular outbreak.

    How that child got it wasn't exactly explained. Such as was it a bioweapon deployment for patient zero, or if OTHER infections were deliberate or accidental, as the thread title asks.. It is possible that bioweapons can expediently be developed with ebola, as historically anthrax was used to decimate the enemy.. See the RENSE article here on that..
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    A bit mindblowing - Brantly says he expects to be released (well hopes) soon..

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    Ebola patient cured in a few weeks?

    Kent Brantly, a doctor who was infected while treating Ebola patients outside Monrovia, Liberia, said, in a statement Friday, he has made progress in his treatment in a special isolation unit Emory. "I am recovering in every way," he said.

    "There are still a few hurdles to...

    Also - Source

    Brantly thanked people for praying for his recovery but emphasized the humanitarian crisis in West Africa.

    “Please continue to pray for and bring attention to those suffering in the ongoing Ebola crisis in West Africa,” he wrote. “Their fight is far from over.”

    Dr. Kent Brantly, the American doctor who contracted the Ebola virus in Liberia, could be released from Emory University Hospital “in the near future,” according to Franklin Graham, president and CEO of Samaritan’s Purse, which sponsored Brantly’s work in West Africa.

    In a Facebook post Thursday, Graham said, “Dr. Kent Brantly is doing very well and hopes to be released sometime in the near future. The staff at Emory Healthcare are taking extremely great care of him. Kent and his wife continue to express appreciation for everyone’s prayers.”

    The Charlotte Observer reports at http://www.charlotteobserver.com/201...improving.html
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    -------

    I found this in my e-mail this morning:

    http://projectavalon.net/Journal_of_...s_Jan_2005.pdf


    I welcome any genuinely informed view, but I think this is stating that, dating from Jan 2005, a way was found to enhance Ebola's 'entry and fusion' into human cells for research purposes, using HIV-1.

    The abstract (paper summary) reads: (the emphasis is mine)

    The Ebola filoviruses are aggressive pathogens that cause severe and often lethal hemorrhagic fever syndromes in humans and nonhuman primates. To date, no effective therapies have been identified. To analyze the entry and fusion properties of Ebola virus, we adapted a human immunodeficiency virus type 1 (HIV-1) virion-based fusion assay by substituting Ebola virus glycoprotein (GP) for the HIV-1 envelope. Fusion was detected by cleavage of the fluorogenic substrate CCF2 by β-lactamase–Vpr incorporated into virions and released as a result of virion fusion. Entry and fusion induced by the Ebola virus GP occurred with much slower kinetics than with vesicular stomatitis virus G protein (VSV-G) and were blocked by depletion of membrane cholesterol and by inhibition of vesicular acidification with bafilomycin A1. These properties confirmed earlier studies and validated the assay for exploring other properties of Ebola virus GP-mediated entry and fusion. Entry and fusion of Ebola virus GP pseudotypes, but not VSV-G or HIV-1 Env pseudotypes, were impaired in the presence of the microtubule-disrupting agent nocodazole but were enhanced in the presence of the microtubule-stabilizing agent paclitaxel (Taxol). Agents that impaired microfilament function, including cy- tochalasin B, cytochalasin D, latrunculin A, and jasplakinolide, also inhibited Ebola virus GP-mediated entry and fusion. Together, these findings suggest that both microtubules and microfilaments may play a role in the effective trafficking of vesicles containing Ebola virions from the cell surface to the appropriate acidified vesicular compartment where fusion occurs. In terms of Ebola virus GP-mediated entry and fusion to various target cells, primary macrophages proved highly sensitive, while monocytes from the same donors displayed greatly reduced levels of entry and fusion. We further observed that tumor necrosis factor alpha, which is released by Ebola virus-infected monocytes/macrophages, enhanced Ebola virus GP-mediated entry and fusion to human umbilical vein endothelial cells. Thus, Ebola virus infection of one target cell may induce biological changes that facilitate infection of secondary target cells that play a key role in filovirus pathogenesis. Finally, these studies indicate that pseudotyping in the HIV-1 virion-based fusion assay may be a valuable approach to the study of entry and fusion properties mediated through the envelopes of other viral pathogens.


    ** Edit to add: I'm seeing a strange error message in place of the embedded PDF above.
    The link

    http://projectavalon.net/Journal_of_...s_Jan_2005.pdf
    DOES work... do download and take a look at this.

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    I found this in my e-mail this morning:

    http://projectavalon.net/Journal_of_...s_Jan_2005.pdf
    [..]
    I welcome any genuinely informed view, but I think this is stating that, dating from Jan 2005, a way was found to enhance Ebola's 'entry and fusion' into human cells for research purposes, using HIV-1.
    Hi Bill - thank you !

    Wonder who sent that doc, very revealing...

    I saw a few more things in that doc, which is going to take a bit of time to sort through completely..

    that
    1) In the doc is the technique to make treatments, prophylaxis for numerous viruses
    2) methods to enhance ALL viruses so that they steal the cell's manufacturing engines
    3) how the viruses modify the cells for efficient replication
    4) how a CUSTOM viral engine can be created to do a lot of genetic modification of cells (potentially not destroying them but making them infections agents to allow for gene programming or genetic engineering, potentially "in the wild".

    and a bunch more that I have have not sorted through just yet.

    For a bioweapons lab, that PDF is an amazing primer and brief on some state-of-the-art.

    It shows us that the mindset of the author(s) are also very dedicated in understanding how people who survived had gene codes that blocked a particular aspect of MANY viri including the FiloViri.. (that shows specifically how to block the ebola-marburg group if that mechanism can be duplicated lets say with an herb infusion...)

    I can see how the mono-clonal antibodies which create the attack sequence against the virus has also worked on the similar pathways that the virus uses..

    Fascinating find..

    --bob
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    Interesting that TNF- a, Tumor Necrosis Factor - alpha, is observed by the authors as creating an, "enhanced Ebola virus GP-mediated entry and fusion to human umbilical vein endothelial cells".

    Now, TNF -a, has been widely studied in the area of Immunological science, for the understanding and therapeutic development of Auto-immune mediated inflammatory diseases. It has been demonstrated that TNF-A, has a primary role in creating the inflammatory cascade seen in common conditions such as Psoriasis, inflammatory bowel disease, MS, inflammatory spinal disease and arthritis. My point is that there are new, whats called biological therapies that have been developed produced and are in use today, that specifically target TNF-a, called TNF inhibitors such as, Etancercept, Humira etc.

    I believe that if there is such a great understanding of these molecules and proteins that are involved in ebola and other disease, and which therapeutic drugs have been developed, there is with out a doubt knowledge on how these viruses can be stopped and inhibited.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumor_n...s_factor_alpha



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    Quote Posted by Lone Bean (here)
    I've been following this Ebola thing from nearly the beginning and it's just all over the board conspiracy-wise. Somehow I ran across this short podcast by CorbertReport that I feel makes better sense than most of what I've read/watched so far. I'm posting it here and I apologize if it's already been posted. I'm interested in what you all think about it.

    Lone Bean,

    This is huge!!!

    Any member wishing to track the evidential trail of where this Ebola Bio-Weapon came from should go to the 45 minute; 30 second mark on the timer of this video you offered, and listen from there.

    Tulane University has long been implicated in the Biological Weapons Business all the way back to the assassination of John F. Kennedy. It was through a top secret Bio-Weapons program designed to create a fast acting cancer virus with the intended target, Fidel Castro, that most of the players indicted, or intended as witnesses, in the Jim Garrison investigation of the Kennedy Assassination where we will discover how Tulane University has been continuously involved in Bio-Weapons Research for elements of the Global Elite.

    It is with the involvement of Tulane University at the earliest occurrence of this outbreak where we can clearly see the bio-weapons aspect of this pending epidemic.

    Research Resources:
    For the story of how Tulane University is connected to Bio-Weapons Research -



    Conclusions:

    Case closed on the question of whether or not this Ebola outbreak is the result of a bio-weapons attack.

    Now.... let's move-on to how this psychopathic release of, yet another, biological weapons virus can be stopped.
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    Ebola Fear Insanity or something worse while looting an Ebola Clinic in Liberia

    One's hair can stand on end hearing this one..

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    Did they know they were taking LIVE EBOLA samples with them when the broke in, took bloody blankets, wastes from the Clinic?

    Liberian officials fear Ebola could soon spread through the capital's largest slum after residents raided a quarantine centre for suspected patients and took items including bloody sheets and mattresses.

    The violence in the West Point slum occurred late Saturday and was led by residents angry that patients were brought to the holding centre from other parts of Monrovia, Tolbert Nyenswah, assistant health minister, said Sunday.

    West Point residents went on a "looting spree," stealing items from the clinic that were likely infected, said a senior police official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief the press. The residents took medical equipment and mattresses and sheets that had bloodstains, he said.

    Ebola is spread through bodily fluids including blood, vomit, feces and sweat.​

    "All between the houses you could see people fleeing with items looted from the patients," the official said, adding that he now feared "the whole of West Point will be infected."

    Was it just LOOTING (by ignorant uneducated people) or something worse?

    Some of the looted items were visibly stained with blood, vomit and excrement, said Richard Kieh, who lives in the area.

    The incident raises fears of new infections in Liberia, which was already struggling to contain the outbreak.

    Liberian police restored order to the West Point neighbourhood.

    Sitting on land between the Montserrado River and the Atlantic Ocean, West Point is home to at least 50,000 people, according to a 2012 survey produced by groups including the Liberia Peacebuilding Office and the Catholic Justice and Peace Commission.

    Distrust of government runs high, with rumours regularly circulating that officials plan to clear the slum out entirely.

    Though there had been talk of putting West Point under quarantine should Ebola break out there, assistant health minister Nyenswah said Sunday no such step had been taken. "West Point is not yet quarantined as being reported," he said.

    Should Ebola break out in WestPoint, potentially thousands and thousands of people would be affected, and that would be a tragedy of massive proportions..

    MEANWHILE


    Kenya has barred travelers from entering from Ebola infected countries.

    and

    in Cameroon - Officials in Cameroon, which borders Nigeria, announced Friday it would suspend all flights from all four Ebola-affected countries. Korean Air announced on Thursday it would temporarily halt its service to Kenya despite the fact there are no cases of Ebola in the country.


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    I have split this thread into two, moving the posts relating to the use of silver to treat Ebola to a new thread: Potential of silver to treat Ebola.

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    Ebola Scare in New Mexico. US A

    A woman has checked herself into a New Mexico Hospital today with Ebola Symptoms. Authorities are saying it is possible.

    http://www.abqjournal.com/447619/abq...for-ebola.html

    "The New Mexico Department of Health and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are performing tests to determine if a 30-year-old New Mexico woman has Ebola.

    "The woman returned earlier this month from Sierra Leone, which is one of several countries in West Africa with known cases of Ebola."

    She had no known exposure to Ebola and health department officials said the tests are being done “out of an abundance of caution.”

    “The Department of Health is working closely with UNM Hospital and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on this investigation,” Department of Health Cabinet Secretary Retta Ward, said in a news release. “UNM Hospital has isolated the patient, and is following the appropriate protocols to ensure other patients and health care workers are safe.”

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    UAE (United Arab Emirates) may have had its first Ebola Case

    Woman dies in UAE having come from Nigeria.

    "The national airline of the United Arab Emirates said Monday it has disinfected one of its planes after health authorities there announced that a Nigerian woman who died after flying in to the capital, Abu Dhabi, may have been infected with the Ebola virus." (Source)

    "The health authority in Abu Dhabi said in a statement carried by state news agency WAM that the 35-year-old woman was traveling from Nigeria to India for treatment of advanced metastatic cancer.

    "Her health deteriorated while in transit at Abu Dhabi International Airport. As medics were trying to resuscitate her, they found signs that suggested a possible Ebola virus infection. The health authority noted, however, that her preexisting medical condition also could have explained her death."

    They don't know but there were "signs" which may mean somehow she got Ebola.

    "Etihad Airways, the UAE's national carrier, said the plane was disinfected in line with guidelines laid out by the airline industry's main trade group. It said it continues to monitor the situation and is working with health authorities "to ensure the implementation of any and all measures necessary to ensure the safety and well-being of its passengers and staff."

    Emirates Air (Dubai) had already suspended travel to a West African country.. Guinea.

    Abu Dhabi is the capital and largest of seven sheikdoms that make up the United Arab Emirates. The country has grown into a major long-haul aviation hub. It is home to Abu Dhabi-based Etihad and Dubai-based Emirates, the Middle East's largest airline.
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    An yet another Ebola Scare - this time IN GEORGIA

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    By Richard Elliot
    "PAULDING COUNTY, Ga. — A Paulding County man tested negative for the Ebola virus after he became ill shortly after his return to the U.S. from a trip to Africa, according to officials.

    "The Paulding County Sheriff's Office and Fire-Rescue confirm they got a 911 call from the man's son Saturday night stating his father recently returned from Nigeria and was showing, what he believed, were Ebola-like symptoms.

    "Paulding County emergency medical technicians responded to the couple's senior living apartment in full Hazmat suits and rushed the elderly man and his wife to an isolation unit at Emory University Hospital, in DeKalb County -- the same hospital where two American Ebola patients are recovering.

    "Officials said tests confirmed the man did not have Ebola and, late Monday, they said tests also showed the man did not have Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome or MERS. However, they said the man remains in isolation at Emory."

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