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    Adolf Hitler - The Greatest Story Never Told

    Since the mid-20th century, the world has only ever heard one side of an incredible story. The story of a boy from an ordinary family whose ambition it was to become an artist, but who instead became a drifter.
    His destiny however was not to drift into the awaiting oblivion, but to rise to the greatest heights of power, eventually to become one of the most influential men who ever lived.

    Now for the first time, here is a documented account of a story many believe to be…

    The Greatest Story NEVER Told!


    Mod edit from Bill: not surprisingly, this video has been taken down by YouTube. However, it's here in the Avalon Library.
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    Learn the untold story about the most reviled man in history. Adolf Hitler, The Greatest Story Never Told is a 6-hour Documentary by TruthWillOut Films.
    This ground-breaking documentary chronicles the rise of Germany from defeat in World War I, to communist attempts to take over Germany; hyperinflation during the Weimar Republic, widespread unemployment and misery, and Adolf Hitler’s rise to power.

    It also reveals a personal side of Adolf Hitler: who he was, his family background, his artwork and struggles in Vienna and what motivated him to come to power.

    There’s so much hidden history to recount; FDR Pearl Harbor conspiracy, Soviet brutality, betrayal and treachery on all sides. Do we really know the true cost of war? Do we really possess all the facts?

    Watch this series and uncover the real root causes of World War II. Do your own research and decide what you choose to believe.

    http://trutube.tv/video/21047/Hitler...ning-has-Begun

    The Greatest Story Never Told
    Synopsis by Marcus Wolfe, January 7, 2014

    WWII affected hundreds of millions of people and it affected millions of Europeans and Asians born after the war too. If not for the war, myself and millions of other people would be citizens of a different country today. Millions of people were driven off their historic homelands, lands they had lived on for centuries and borders were shifted to the victors advantage. The world was changed forever.

    Europe had led the world for centuries and it laid in ruin. Entire countries were completely destroyed with their cities left unrecognizable. The British Empire was left bankrupt and broke up, the French Empire lost its colonies after the war and Germany lost a huge amount of land again, added to the losses of WWI Germany was now two thirds its former size. At least fourteen million Germans were driven off their historic lands in the biggest ethnic cleansing operation and mass movement of people in history.

    Europe lost its leadership position in science, technology and culture. Until 1945 and a few years after, Germany had dominated the Nobel Prizes with far more than any other country, and Great Britain and France were at the top in science too. All of Europe was educated and competitive. With the almost complete destruction of Europe, the United States and the Soviet Union took over leadership of the world and leadership in science and technology. Those two countries competed to explore space, with the USA landing on the Moon in 1969 and the USA took over leadership in the sciences too.

    In 1948 Israel was created. The Zionists and Jews in general played a central role in WWII. Many were victims and many Europeans were their victims. Jews also played an important role in starting, or at least widening, and then winning the war. Jews were no less powerful after the war than before it and Israel was created in 1948. Palestinians were pushed off their land and the fighting goes on until today. For most of the last seventy years since the end of the war we were told that Jews were the main victims of WWII with a countless number of books, movies and documentaries made about the “holocaust.”

    Hardly any other country or ethnic group’s suffering was ever mentioned. Today Israel is a superpower with one of the largest nuclear arsenals in the world and with Zionism’s enormous influence over virtually every western country, Israel threatens its neighbors regularly and western countries (in particular the USA) make war on their behalf.

    In order to better understand what is going on in the world today we have to understand WWII, the war that put the people that rule the world today into power. Most of the world does not understand how we got where we are today because the history of WWII has been deliberately distorted.

    In order to ensure these false notions of what the war was about and who the bad guys were and who the good guys were (the victors of course), laws have been put into place that guarantee that anyone that questions or produces evidence against the “holocaust” or other mainstream claims is in violation of the law and is subject to jail.

    More than a few important historians and scientists have been thrown into jail in Europe and very few people in academia or outside of academia complain about this and at the same time these self satisfied people talk about the importance of “freedom of speech” and its important role in a democracy.

    While Churchill and FDR are presented as Saints and even Stalin was proclaimed to be a great man, Germany’s leader and the Germans themselves have been presented as the devil incarnate. We have been told over and over for the last seventy years many different things about Hitler, all bad and many ridiculous.

    Many books and claims have been made about the man and many contradict each other, but as long as they portray Hitler as evil they get a good reception by the media. We’re told he was a lowly corporal, a house painter, a homosexual and at the same time a murderer of homosexuals. Then contradicting the house painter claim, they say he was a failed art student, he was so evil that he was incapable of painting a human figure with the proper dimensions.

    In truth Hitler was an aspiring art student that was competent, but not good enough to get into the art school in Vienna. He was not a coward as we are often told, but a war hero winning the Iron Cross first and second class, he was gassed at the end of the war and suffered the terrible pain that went with that. He was a heterosexual that had sexual relations and married the love of his life before they both committed suicide to avoid being tortured and murdered by the victorious allies.

    He presided over the most remarkable economic recovery of the 1930’s and he was a remarkable military leader. For putting millions of Germans back to work, ending the misery imposed on Germany by its enemies and restoring Germany’s pride his people supported him to the bitter end. No matter the military setbacks or the mass murder of Germany’s civilians by enemy bombers he had the full support of all of Germany and Germany fought virtually the whole world until the bitter end.

    This documentary attempts to educate the viewer about the facts regarding Hitler, the war, the holocaust and many other things.

    The film comes in 26 segments, each about fifteen minutes in length.

    Please feel free to discuss this documentary in it's entirety all I ask is that not to go on a Reptilian Alien agenda wild goose chase.
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    Whatever the ultimate truth may be, there must always be room for balance in the search for it.
    Dammit, honey! You left the seat down again!

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    Mod edit from Bill: not surprisingly, this video has been taken down by YouTube. However, it's here in the Avalon Library.
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    What I presume is the whole thing is also available here as a torrent (2.5 Gb):
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    Well, before investing six hours in a documentary which purports to tell the true untold story, I "think" I already know what happened.

    Germany was devastated by WW1 and was ordered to make war reparations to the rest of the world, after losing their fertile farmlands to the east and west and being virtually imprisoned in the mountainous central part of Germany. Due to the limited arable land and other limitations, Germany's Weimar Republic went into hyperinflation, and the hopelessness set into the once glorious Germany, the country which had most of the best and brightest scientists and scholars of it's day.

    Of course, the banksters desire to take advantage of the situation groomed Hitler, who is purported to be descendant of the royal elite bloodlines, and yes, did set up and complete the full globalization agenda which had been aggressively implemented, in all countries, at the turn of the century. He was definitely the catalyst puppet master for the grand globalist plan.

    Looking at 1900 forward, we see the banksters under JPM and the City of London and the Federal Reserve taking over finances, the redrawing of the world map through colonial imperialism, the Spanish flu plague, World War One, the emergence of Theosophy as well as the fundamentalist revivals of the Assembly of God church, the consolidation of resources into the United States under project paperclip, and later the New Deal making all of us indentured slaves, along with the suppression of any technology which did not meet the requirements of the slave grid, while organizing a hidden financial system under Bilderberg and leaving the slaves with nothing but a global fiat debt system under the petrodollar, while the real technology and resources went underground into hidden black operation projects, making the super elite psychopaths filthy rich and in control of all means of production and all emerging technology, all militaries and all governments.

    This plan was already in the works before WW1 as the industrialization of Europe (due to oil) was expanding exponentially and the same tactics were used in Europe as were used a few centuries earlier in Rome. You see, Rome never failed, it was just re-engineered and power diversified into Europe. The same thing happened in WW1, the City of London never failed as Europe's power base was broken up and diversified into the United States. The same thing is happening right now as the Federal Reserve never fails as the power base in the US is being broken up and diversified. ALL power is held and vested in the same few and is not allowed to be vested in any one country or continent. It is held by the few unequivocally as divisiveness, strife, debt and slavery are fostered on the populace.

    So, what happened in Germany, at least in my mind, was not unique and is the same game plan as has always been implemented by the elite bloodlines for thousands of years, since their arrival here their interloping ways are scattered throughout the true history of this planet. I agree they write the history and obfuscate it's truth, but we are waking up to them and they are not so well hidden anymore.

    If you have watched the entire six hours, and there are facts which are new and would benefit expansion of the long term historical worldview as it truly is, I would be interested in a brief synopsis of your findings.

    Thanks in advance.
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    Interesting Videos, pulling together many relevant historical facts in Hitler's life, and the period of German History that he dominated.

    A Big Question now is: Has the JEWISH "PASS" Expired?

    69 Years have elapsed since WW2 ended. For virtually ALL of that time, certain historical events, including Jewish behaviours could not be discussed. If Jewish people, and especially Israel behaved badly, for example by mistreating Palestinians it could not be discussed. Such discussion was forbidden. And along with this, it was forbidded to say anything positive about Adolf Hitler, or examine in any detail his life.

    Thanks for posted this. We have much to learn of our history of the last 100 years

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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Well, before investing six hours in a documentary which purports to tell the true untold story, I "think" I already know what happened.

    Germany was devastated by WW1 and was ordered to make war reparations to the rest of the world, after losing their fertile farmlands to the east and west and being virtually imprisoned in the mountainous central part of Germany. Due to the limited arable land and other limitations, Germany's Weimar Republic went into hyperinflation, and the hopelessness set into the once glorious Germany, the country which had most of the best and brightest scientists and scholars of it's day.

    Of course, the banksters desire to take advantage of the situation groomed Hitler, who is purported to be descendant of the royal elite bloodlines, and yes, did set up and complete the full globalization agenda which had been aggressively implemented, in all countries, at the turn of the century. He was definitely the catalyst puppet master for the grand globalist plan.

    Looking at 1900 forward, we see the banksters under JPM and the City of London and the Federal Reserve taking over finances, the redrawing of the world map through colonial imperialism, the Spanish flu plague, World War One, the emergence of Theosophy as well as the fundamentalist revivals of the Assembly of God church, the consolidation of resources into the United States under project paperclip, and later the New Deal making all of us indentured slaves, along with the suppression of any technology which did not meet the requirements of the slave grid, while organizing a hidden financial system under Bilderberg and leaving the slaves with nothing but a global fiat debt system under the petrodollar, while the real technology and resources went underground into hidden black operation projects, making the super elite psychopaths filthy rich and in control of all means of production and all emerging technology, all militaries and all governments.

    This plan was already in the works before WW1 as the industrialization of Europe (due to oil) was expanding exponentially and the same tactics were used in Europe as were used a few centuries earlier in Rome. You see, Rome never failed, it was just re-engineered and power diversified into Europe. The same thing happened in WW1, the City of London never failed as Europe's power base was broken up and diversified into the United States. The same thing is happening right now as the Federal Reserve never fails as the power base in the US is being broken up and diversified. ALL power is held and vested in the same few and is not allowed to be vested in any one country or continent. It is held by the few unequivocally as divisiveness, strife, debt and slavery are fostered on the populace.

    So, what happened in Germany, at least in my mind, was not unique and is the same game plan as has always been implemented by the elite bloodlines for thousands of years, since their arrival here their interloping ways are scattered throughout the true history of this planet. I agree they write the history and obfuscate it's truth, but we are waking up to them and they are not so well hidden anymore.

    If you have watched the entire six hours, and there are facts which are new and would benefit expansion of the long term historical worldview as it truly is, I would be interested in a brief synopsis of your findings.

    Thanks in advance.
    The BOLD statement is an assumption and so the rest of your paragraph is an assumption that Hitler was a pawn, at the moment I don't believe he was, it would be good if we really could get a handle on whether that is fact or not, otherwise it must be disregarded for now, the rest of what you say seems legit, but as for Hitler being a pawn I really don't think so.

    I think he really worried them.

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    Bare in mind also... "Adolf Hitler has been called everything from a Jew, a Rothschild, a homosexual, a mad carpet eater, a sex pervert and a mass murderer. So do not be surprised at "drug addict" or making "bad decisions". It took the Allies 6 years to take him down. It was no different to a courageous lion eventually outnumbered by hyenas. These lies are only to be expected from his enemies. They had good reason to hate him"

    The only reason people keep saying stuff like this is to discredit the man so nobody takes any notice... THEY are called Gatekeepers who distract you with anything but the truth, like stories of reptilians and similier things which nobody can get any actual foothold on. Think about it, what you going to do about a supposedly highly advanced space fairing civilisation like Reptilians? NO-THING.

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    The Fake Legends of Adolf Hitler’s “Jewish Grandfather”
    Published by admin on Sun, 2011-10-23 00:47
    How and why it got started, and why it’s not true
    By Carolyn Yeager, March 2011
    copyright 2011 Carolyn Yeager
    The rumor that Adolf Hitler was the grandson of a Rothschild seems to have been hatched in the mind of a crypto-Jewish propagandist working in the United States’ first unified intelligence agency, the Office of Strategic Services (OSS). Not long after, a former high Nazi official, waiting for his execution, “confessed” to discovering a “Jewish grandfather” in Hitler’s background. These fabrications have been thoroughly debunked, and the true story of Hitler’s family background is told below.
    Background information about Walter Langer and the OSS
    The OSS was formed at the request of President Franklin D. Roosevelt, from advice given to him by Canadian/British spymaster William Stephenson, aka “Intrepid,” who had been conducting British intelligence in the western hemisphere since 1939. Roosevelt asked William J. Donovan to draft a plan for an intelligence service. Donovan had functioned as an informal emissary to Britain for Roosevelt during 1940-41, assigned to gauge Britain's ability to succeed against Germany. In this role, he met with directors of Britain's intelligence services, and even with Winston Churchill. Donovan was appointed as the "Coordinator of Information" in July 1941. In June 1942, the OSS was established by Presidential military order. Its job was to collect and analyze strategic information required by and useful to the Joint Chiefs, and to conduct special operations not assigned to other agencies.* Since the FBI, the Army and Navy jealously guarded their areas of responsibility, the reach of the OSS was limited to what it could find in the way of new opportunities for espionage that weren’t already being served by the former-named departments. *Italics used throughout are my added emphasis - cy
    William L. Langer was recruited during the war to work for the new OSS. Taking leave from his position as head of the History Dept. at Harvard Univ., he became head of the Research and Analysis Section of the OSS. He must have had something to do with bringing his brother Walter into his section, since Walter’s main accomplishment was a psychological analysis of Adolf Hitler.
    Walter Langer was a psychoanalyst with a PhD but not an M.D.; he was the first person admitted to the American Psychiatric Association without a medical degree. Imagine that! The brothers were the sons of German immigrants to the U.S. No religion is ever given for either, increasing the likelihood the family was Jewish but did not want to advertise that fact. Langer is a common Ashkanazi Jewish and German name. For instance, there is a Rabbi Samuel Langer, well known on the U.S. east coast who died in 1969, and David Langer, a Jewish soldier in the Polish Army whose picture was taken in 1929.
    At the end of the war, William was appointed special assistant for intelligence analysis to the U.S. Secretary of State, James F. Byrnes. In 1950, William Langer organized the office of National Estimates in the newly established Central Intelligence Agency [CIA], the successor of the OSS. He returned to Harvard in the 1950’s, but from 1961 to 1977 he served on the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board [from the Kennedy through Ford administrations]. In his book Diplomacy of Imperialism [1956], he argued against a “genocide” of the Armenians on the grounds their revolutionary leaders provoked the Turks into it.1


















    Left: William L. Langer Right: Walter C. Langer in retirement. Look at the schnoz on both these brothers.

    Langer’s “Psychological Profile of Adolf Hitler”

    Walter was given the task by Donovan in 1943 of preparing a brief psychological and psychoanalytical profile of Hitler. But Langer wanted to do something more monumental. Without the opportunity to meet or speak with Hitler himself, Langer turned to disgruntled ex-National Socialists and others who had fallen out with Hitler, and to his tribal animosity for the Third Reich and knowledge of psycho-babble. For example, he wrote in his Preface:

    The material available for such an analysis is extremely scant and spotty. Fortunately, we have at our disposal a number of informants who knew Hitler well and who have been willing to cooperate to the best of their abilities.

    Reading this profile, it becomes obvious it can only have been written by a Jew. The peculiar hatred, bias and ridicule are of the type that only Jews express against their enemies. Donovan must have been disappointed and considered the report useless since it was full of inaccuracies and full-blown lies … a work of fantasy and Freudian psycho-speak, liberally layered with overt sexual imagery and speculations. With no basis whatsoever, Langer writes:

    … a number of informants have commented on [Hitler’s] delight in witnessing strip-tease and nude dancing numbers on the stage. On such occasions he can never see enough to satisfy him even though he uses opera glasses in order to observe more closely. Strip-tease artists are frequently invited to the Brown House, in Munich, to perform in private and there is evidence that he often invites girls to Berchtesgaden for the purpose of exhibiting their bodies. On his walls are numerous pictures of obscene nudes which conceal nothing and he takes particular delight in looking through a collection of pornographic pictures which Hoffmann has made for him. […] In addition to the eyes, the anal region has also become highly sexualised and both faeces and buttocks become sexual objects. Due to early toilet training, certain inhibitions have been set up which prevent their direct expression. […] We may, therefore, regard Hitler's perversion as a compromise between psychotic tendencies to eat faeces and drink urine on the one hand, and to live a normal socially adjusted life on the other. The compromise is not, however, satisfactory to either side of his nature and the struggle between these two diverse tendencies continues to rage unconsciously.

    No kidding! And even worse—all from rumor, hearsay and Langer’s own sick Jewish mind. It descends into pornography for many pages, almost half the report. What of any value can have been gained thereby for the OSS?

    Showing how Langer went way beyond the task that was assigned to him, the following passage is reminiscent of some other writings from that time [such as Germany Must Perish! by American Jew Theodore Kaufman] that sought to condemn the German nation as a whole for massive evil, and along with it, the entire “civilized world.”

    It was not only Hitler, the madman, who created German madness, but German madness which created Hitler. Having created him as its spokesman and leader, it has been carried along by his momentum, perhaps far beyond the point where it was originally prepared to go. Nevertheless, it continues to follow his lead in spite of the fact that it must be obvious to all intelligent people now that his path leads to inevitable destruction. From a scientific point of view, therefore, we are forced to consider Hitler, the Fuehrer, not as a personal devil, wicked as his actions and philosophy may be, but as the expression of a state of mind existing in millions of people, not only in Germany but, to a smaller degree, in all civilized countries. To remove Hitler may be a necessary first step, but it would not be the cure. It would be analogous to curing an ulcer without treating the underlying disease. If similar eruptions are to be prevented in the future, we cannot content ourselves with simply removing the overt manifestations of the disease. On the contrary, we must ferret out and seek to correct the underlying factors which produced the unwelcome phenomenon. We must discover the psychological streams which nourish this destructive state of mind in order that we may divert them into channels which will permit a further evolution of our form of civilization.

    “Our form of civilization” meaning Jewish-American form of civilization? This is exactly what they know we need to do to Jews in order to save ourselves … to “ferret out the underlying factors” that are bringing about our destruction. In this OSS profile, there was no mention of a Jewish grandfather for Hitler. But the idea must have been forming to Langer, because toward the end of the “psychological analysis” section of his report, he suddenly invents “Jewish Godparents” for Hitler. His tendency to speculate on pet theories is working overtime when he writes:

    We know that he had very little money when he left Linz, certainly not enough to live on for almost an entire year while he spent his time in painting. Since the date of his mother's death has been so universally distorted (? don’t know what he means by this; the date was always Dec. 1907-cy), it would seem that efforts were being made to cover something which happened during this intervening year. My guess would be that he lived with his Jewish godparents 2 who supported him while he was preparing work for the Academy. When he failed to be admitted at the end of a year, they put him out and made him go to work. There is one bit of evidence for this hypothesis. Hanisch 3, in his book, mentions in passing that when they were particularly destitute he went with Hitler to visit a well-to-do Jew whom Hitler said was his father. The wealthy Jew would have nothing to do with him and sent him on his way again. There is scarcely a possibility that Hitler's father was a Jew, but Hanisch might easily have understood him to say father when he said godfather. This would certainly make much more sense and would indicate that Hitler had contact with his godparents before the visit and that they were fed up with him and would help him no further.

    The Rothschild story appears …

    In 1972, Langer published a lengthier, revised version of his profile in book form, titled The Mind of Adolf Hitler: The Secret Wartime Report. It contained a forward by brother William, and an afterword by the “psychoanalytic historian” Robert G.L. Waite. In the book, Langer adds some new allusions to Jewish superiority in speaking of Adolf’s father:

    Alois’ intelligence and behavior were beyond what can be expected from an Austrian family of peasants and more suitable to a linage of highly educated Jews.

    This is prologue to his theory of a Rothschild paternity, admitting even as he puts it forth that it lacks credibility:

    There are some people who seriously doubt that Johann Georg Hiedler was the father of Alois. Thyssen and Koehler, for example, claim that [Austrian] Chancellor Dollfuss had ordered the Austrian police to conduct a thorough investigation into the Hitler family. As a result of this investigation a secret document was prepared that proved that Maria Anna Schicklgruber was living in Vienna at the time she conceived. At that time she was employed as a servant in the home of Baron Rothschild. As soon as the family discovered her pregnancy she was sent back to her home in Spital where Alois was born. If it is true that one of the Rothschilds is the real father of Alois Hitler, it would make Adolf a quarter Jew. According to these sources, Adolf Hitler knew of the existence of this document and the incriminating evidence it contained. In order to obtain it he precipitated events in Austria and initiated the assassination of Dollfuss. According to this story, he failed to obtain the document at that time since Dollfuss had secreted it and had told Schuschnigg of its whereabouts so that in the event of his death the independence of Austria would remain assured. Several stories of this general character are in circulation.4

    First, the “secret document” has never been seen, and no doubt never existed. The best one can find on anti-Hitler conspiracy sites is that it is “now in the hands of the British Secret Service.” And, of course, they’re not releasing it.

    Second, the political putsch attempt by Austrian National Socialists, not under Hitler’s control in any way, that occurred in Vienna in 1934 was not instigated by Hitler; in fact, he was displeased by the attempt and the bad impression it created.

    Third, Dollfuss may have searched into Hitler’s family line, but the Baron Rothschild part is totally unbelievable. There are no records showing Maria Anna Schickelgruber registered as a domestic servant in Vienna, ever, something that was required at the time. Langer admits this is just one of several “stories,” i.e. rumors, in circulation. He concludes that “it is sounder not to base our reconstruction on such slim evidence but to seek firmer foundations.” Yet he repeats these baseless rumors for the very purpose of keeping such rumors alive.

    Robert G.L. Waite, who wrote the afterword for Langer’s book, was a Canadian self-styled “psychohistorian,” with a specialty in Adolf Hitler, who authored his own psycho-bio, Adolf Hitler: The Psychopathic God, published in 1977. Waite, who gained his psychiatric ‘insight’ from the extended treatment he received for depression he suffered since his university days, and was known for stubbornness and acting out emotionally in public, found Langer’s theories provocative, even if wrong. He wrote: "But even when Langer is mistaken and his guesses prove incorrect, he is often on the right track."

    Consider his hint that Hitler's grandfather might have been a Jew. There is no reason to believe the unlikely story told by Langer's informant that Hitler's grandmother Maria Anna Schicklgruber, a peasant woman in her forties from the Waldvietral of rural Austria, had had an intimate liason with a Baron Rothschild in Vienna.



    Above: Family resemblance? Not a bit, yet some imagine it. This photo comparison is found on Internet sites as evidence of Hitler’s Rothschild lineage!

    …and the Frankenberger story

    In place of Langer’s failed rumors, Waite posits another false story of a different “Jewish grandfather” that had also been “circulating” for years, to wit that Hitler's paternal grandmother had been working as a cook in the household of a Jewish man named Leopold Frankenberger before she gave birth to Hitler's father out of wedlock.
    But Hitler had worried that he might be blackmailed over a Jewish grandfather and ordered his private lawyer, Hans Frank, to investigate his paternal lineage. Frank told the Fuehrer that his grandmother had become pregnant while working as a domestic servant in a Jewish household in Graz.
    The facts of this matter are in dispute - and a very lengthy dispute it has been. The point of overriding psychological and historical importance is not whether it is true that Hitler had a Jewish grandfather, but whether he believed that it might be true.
    Waite then lies when he writes: "He did so believe and the fact shaped both his personality and his public policy."

    No, Hitler did not believe it, and in fact Hans Frank’s entire story is false, an invention made up in the mind of a condemned man under pressure to “clear his conscience.” There was no blackmail letter from Hitler’s nephew Patrick and there was no Frankenberger family living in Graz.
    The American Jewish psychologist G. M. Gilbert was sent to Europe as a military intelligence officer and was appointed prison psychologist for the German prisoners. He later wrote in his book Nuremberg Diary on p.19: “He [Hans Frank] and Albert Speer were the only defendants to show any true remorse for their war crimes …” He should also have said they were the only two who spoke ill of Adolf Hitler in retrospect, the former in hopes to clear himself before God, the latter in hopes to clear his reputation before his new earthly rulers.

    Above: Hans Frank in confinement, 1945

    HITLER’S TRUE GENEALOGY
    These are the principal blood relatives of Adolf Hitler:
    Maria Schicklgruber, paternal grandmother

    Johann Georg Hiedler, presumed, official paternal grandfather

    Johann Nepomuk Hüttler, real paternal grandfather and maternal great-grandfather

    Johann Baptist Põlzl, maternal grandfather

    Klara Hitler, mother

    Alois Hitler, father

    Paula Hitler, sister

    Alois Hitler, Jr., half-brother (by his father’s 2nd wife)

    Angela Hitler Raubal, half-sister (by father’s 2nd wife)

    Geli Raubal, niece (through his half-sister Angela)

    Leo Raubal Jr, nephew (through his half-sister Angela)

    William Patrick Hitler, nephew (through his half-brother Alois, Jr)

    Below is an accurate genealogic chart from Familypedia.com. The only addition that needs to be made is to link Maria Anna Schicklgruber and Johann Nepomuk Hüttler as having an extra-marital liason which resulted in the child Alois Schicklgruber in 1837 (see Werner Maser, below). But in all other aspects, it conforms to the research done and accepted by all historians and genealogists. There are no Jews or Jewish connections at all.




    Werner Maser, a German historian and author of several serious books on Hitler, was described in his obituary in the London Times as “one of the first German historians to treat the Nazi period as a field of academic research.”5

    This is borne out in his exceedingly thorough job of tracing Adolf Hitler’s family background and lineage in his book, Hitler: Legend, Myth and Reality, published in German in 1971, in English in 1973. He concludes that Hitler’s paternal grandfather was Johann Nepomuk Hüttler, a German farmer living in Spital, in the Waldviertel region in the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
    This book and the information it contains has been available for 40 years, yet conspiracy theorists who want to believe Hitler was a Rothschild or simply a part-Jew ignore it. Maser’s investigation included personal trips to look through church and baptismal records, interviewing relatives, heirs, school-fellows and childhood friends. In the attic of one of Hitler’s cousins, he discovered material which biographers had been seeking for half a century, including large numbers of letter and notes in Hitler’s own hand.
    Werner Maser
    FINDINGS OF WERNER MASER
    1. It is undisputed that Adolf Hitler was born to Alois Hitler and Klara Pölzl. Alois, however, was born Schicklgruber because his mother, Maria Anna Schicklgruber was unmarried. [Not an unusual occurrence in Austrian villages at that time.]
    2. Maria Anna Schicklgruber was not a poor housemaid who worked for wealthy Jewish families. The daughter of Johann Schicklgruber, a prosperous farmer in possession of a well-appointed farm in the village of Strones, and Theresia Pfseisinger, she was born in 1795 and is described by Maser as a thrifty, reserved and exceptionally shrewd peasant woman. She gives every appearance of having been strong-minded, a trait that was passed down to her son Alois and her grandson, Adolf.
    3. Maria Anna Schicklgruber’s brother, Jakob, purchased the family farm from his father for 3000 gulden when the father was only 53 years old. Maria’s mother, Theresia, had just inherited 210 gulden from her father’s total estate of 1054 gulden, so the parents felt prosperous enough to retire. To put the value of 3000 gulden in perspective: a cow at that time could be purchased for 10 to 12 gulden; a brood sow cost 4 gulden; a bed w/bedding was 2 gulden; an inn with stabling could be had for 450 to 500 gulden. As you can see, 3000 gulden was a substantial amount.
    4. Maria Anna, at the age of 26, inherited 74.25 gulden at the death of her mother in 1821. She kept this sum in the Orphans’ Fund until 1838, earning 5% interest. By then, it had increased to 165 gulden, over double the original amount. Her son was not born until June 1837 when she was 42 yrs. old.
    5. She refused to reveal the name of her child’s father, even though the priest wanted her to do so. Thus, the child could only be given her name. This strong-willed woman did marry, in 1842—five years after the birth of her son—a man named Johann Georg Hiedler of the village of Spital. If he were the father of Alois, Maria Anna would certainly have named him such when they married and legitimized her son, but she did not. That entry was made in the baptismal register at Döllersheim where they married, but not until ten years after her death! The one responsible for it was Hiedler’s younger brother, Johann Nepomuk Hüttler, in whose household young Alois went to live at the age of 5 years, after his mother’s marriage to Hiedler.6
    6. So … we have Maria Anna Schicklgruber Heidler’s illegitimate son Alois going to live in the household of his new stepfather’s brother—his ‘uncle.’ Maser explains it this way: Hiedler, at this time 50 years old and never before married, may have resented and/or been irritated by the presence of a young child who was not his. But more likely, Johann Nepomuk, a much younger 35 years old, who was married at the time Alois was conceived, could now welcome his son, as ‘nephew,’ into his family without his wife becoming suspicious.
    7. All reports are, according to Maser, that Alois was happy in his ‘uncle’s’ home where he had ‘cousins’ and a more lively family life than he experienced living with his 47-year-old mother and her new husband.
    8. Maria Anna Hiedler died in 1847 at the age of only 52. Alois did not, on his own initiative, seek legal legitimacy. His birth status did not hamper his career, in which he rose to what was considered the very respectable position of a Customs official; nor did it appear to trouble him personally. He was known as a tolerant, modern thinker, not particularly religious. His second wife Franziska Matzelsberger had a son born out of wedlock when he married her and he accepted this son in his household. It wasn’t until sometime between 1874 and 1876 that he changed his name to Hitler. Hitler is almost identical in sound to Hüttler.
    9. It was in 1876 that Franz Schicklgruber, administrator of his sister Maria Anna’s estate, made over to his nephew Alois 230 gulden. It was now that Alois signed his name “Hitler,” spelling it just slightly differently than Hüttler. Maser comments that the Schicklgruber family was no doubt proud of how well Alois had done for himself and saw to it that he got the bulk of the inheritance of his mother.
    10. Rothschild and Frankenberger Jew paternity is ruled out on the grounds of there being no evidence Maria Anna Schicklgruber ever worked for a Jewish family in Graz or Vienna.
    11. The Jew Frankenberger story: Hans Frank, who became Govenor General of Poland from 1939 to 1945, is responsible for the false story, with the help of an American army chaplain Sixtus O’Conner, written before Frank was put to death by the Nuremberg IMT [International Military Tribunal]. He concocted a story that Maria Anna Schicklgruber worked as a cook in the household of a Jewish family in Graz, Austria at the time she gave birth to her son. In his ‘report,’ this family had a 19 yr-old son. [Remember, MAS was 42 years old, a fact of which Hans Frank was probably ignorant.] Further, he said the family, named Frankenberger, paid a maintenance allowance to Maria Anna for 14 years [which makes Jews look responsible and honorable]. But the story is false from start to finish. Some of the main reasons are:
    A) From the end of the 15th Century until a decade after Maria Anna died, no Jews lived in Graz. They had been expelled by Emperor Maximilian I in 1496 from the province of Styria, which included Graz. In 1781, under Joseph II, they were allowed to re-enter, but only for a few weeks at a time, during Lent and at the Feast of St. Giles to the annual Fairs, after paying a fixed sum. Two years later, these rights were again curtailed, and it remained enforced until 1860 that no Jews whatsoever could even enter the province.
    B) No resident by the name of Frankenberger is listed as having lived in Graz at that time.
    C) Records from 1821 to 1838 pertaining to Maria Anna’s money in the Orphans’ Fund showed no change of address in 1836 or ’37. Moreover, as a subject of the “Lordship of Ottenstein” she could not have absented herself for any length of time without it being noted.
    D) Frank wrote in his report that Adolf Hitler told him in a conversation that he knew there were no Jews in his family because he had talked with his father and grandmother about it. But Hitler could not have said that—his grandmother had been dead since before he was born! This shows that Hans Frank’s story is made up out of whole cloth—including the part about “investigating the matter for Hitler.”
    12. The Rothschild in Vienna story: This is debunked for the same reasons. Maria Anna Schicklgruber did not visit or live in Vienna, and there is no record of who these Rothschilds were, their address or other necessary information.
    13, Patrick Hitler: Another rumor of an alleged newspaper article in the Paris-Soir in which Hitler’s nephew [by his half-brother Alois, Jr.], Patrick, described his uncle Adolf as the grandson of a Graz Jew called Frankenreither. Maser dug up this issue of that defunct newspaper while on a trip to Paris and found it carried two pages and six illustrations of Patrick Hitler’s story, but no allusion whatsoever to any Jewish antecedents.
    COMMENTS AND OTHER FINDINGS BY WERNER MASER
    1. Maser feels that Johann Nepomuk Hüttler and Alois decided on the change of name in compliance with the wishes of Maria Anna. The inheritance was given in the same year that Alois wrote his name as Hitler. The baptismal record continues to name Johann Georg Hiedler as Alois’ father, but Alois chose to spell the name as Hitler.
    2. Klara Pölzl, Alois 3rd wife, mother of Adolf, was a granddaughter of Johann Nepomuk Hüttler and his wife Eva Maria [Decker], making her the niece of her husband Alois. She was considered his niece because Alois was a Schicklgruber and Klara was a Decker on the maternal side. Hüttler died in 1888, Adolf was born in 1889.
    3. Adolf Hitler’s maternal grandfather was Johann Baptist Põlzl, a farmer living in Spital. His paternal grandfather was Johann Nepomuk Hüttler, also a Spital farmer. Maser says that there is a distinct family resemblance between all the relations in Spital who are descended from Hüttler, and some of them bear a strong resemblance to Adolf Hitler. Hitler visited Spital in 1905, 1906 and 1908, and several times when on leave during the First World War. He knew his relatives and a great deal about his family history.
    Endnotes
    1. http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/shaw-hovannisian.htm
    The methods used by the Armenian nationalist groups to secure foreign intervention at this time were very well documented by the distinguished Harvard University diplomatic historian, the late William L. Langer, in Diplomacy of Imperialism (2d ed.; New York, 1956), on the basis of Armenian as well as Western reports, and without any use of Turkish sources. Thus he found in the British Parliamentary Papers (Turkey No. 10, 1879, nos. 45 and 62 and Turkey No. 7, 1880, no. 3) statements from the British ambassador in June and July, 1879, such as ‘The same intrigues are now being carried on in Asia Minor to establish an Armenian nationality and to bring about a state of things which may give rise to a Christian outcry and European interference’ (p. 153).
    Langer reports (p. 157) that Revolutionary placards were being posted in the cities, and there were not a few cases of the blackmailing of wealthy Armenians, who were forced to contribute to the cause. Europeans in Turkey were agreed that the immediate aim of the agitators was to incite disorder, bring about inhuman reprisals, and so provoke the intervention of the powers. For that reason, it was said, they operated by preference in areas where the Armenians were in a hopeless minority, so that the reprisals would be certain.
    Langer concluded (p. 163) that ‘Enough has been said above to make unnecessary any further reference here to the Hentchak and its program and methods. The leaders were quite prepared to have thousands of their fellow-countrymen massacred in order to force intervention by the European powers and in order to raise from the ruins of the Ottoman Empire a new Armenian socialist state.’
    Langer states: “Mr. Herbert, the British chargé, appreciated the provocation to the Turks. Mr. Hume-Beaman, an expert on things oriental, roundly declared that every member of the Armenian committees should be hanged, and that the responsibilities for the massacres rested divided between these cowardly committees and the ‘braggart and ineffectual intervention of Europe’.” (Langer, pp. 324-325]
    2. This is the first mention of “Jewish godparents.” They appear out of the blue as a “guess” by Langer. The intention is clearly to show Jews as good, compassionate and upstanding people who “saw through” the good-for-nothing Hitler—placing Jews in the superior position morally, financially and educationally.
    3. One of Langer’s “informants” who was employed by Hitler in Vienna as an agent for selling his paintings. Their business relationship lasted for 8 months. At that time, Hitler took Hanisch to court for not turning over the money he owed Hitler. Hanisch was found guilty and spent a very short time in jail.

    4. Walter C. Langer, The Mind of Adolf Hitler, Basic Books, 1972, pg.111-113.

    5. In his book on the Nuremberg Tribunals, Trial of a Nation, Maser alleged that Hitler’s architect, Albert Speer, who was given only a prison sentence by the tribunal, made a secret deal with the chief American prosecutor Robert H. Jackson.

    6. The father of Johann Georg Hiedler, born 1792 and Johann Nepomuk Hüttler, born 1807 was Martin Hiedler, born 1762. Johann Nepomuk chose to spell the name Hüttler, or perhaps it was an error by a priest or cleric.
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    Has anyone ever checked why Adolf's Father Changed the family name to Hitler at age 39? Hitler was born 13 years later... Did he join the illuminati and they renamed him? It might be a rabbit hole worth exploring...

    "So Who Was Alois' Real Father?

    The mystery concerning Adolf Hitler's grandfather (Alois' father) has spawned a multitude of theories that range from possible to preposterous. Whenever beginning this discussion, we should realize that we can only speculate about this man's identity because the truth rested with Maria Schicklgruber, and as far as we know, she took this information to the grave with her in 1847.

    To explain away Adolf Hitler's treatment of Jews, some speculate Adolf's grandfather was a Jew. There is no basis for this speculation.

    The simplest and legal answer to Alois' paternity points to Johann Georg Hiedler - the man Maria married five years after Alois' birth. The sole basis for this information dates to Alois' baptismal registry that shows Johann Georg claiming paternity over Alois on June 6, 1876 in front of three witnesses. At first glance, this seems like reliable information until you realize that Johann Georg would have been eighty-four years old and had actually died nineteen years earlier.

    Who Changed the Baptismal Registry?
    There are many versions of this story, but most point the finger at Johann Georg Hiedler's brother, Johann von Nepomuk Huetler. (The spelling of the last name was always changing - the baptismal registry spells it "Hitler.") Some rumors say that because Johann von Nepomuk had no sons to carry on the name of Hitler, he decided to change Alois' name by claiming that his brother had told him that this was true. Since Alois had lived with Johann von Nepomuk for most of his childhood, it is believable that Alois seemed like his son. Other rumors actually claim that Johann von Nepomuk was Alois' real father and that in this way he could give his son his last name.

    No matter who changed it, Alois Schicklgruber officially became Alois Hitler at thirty nine years of age. Since Adolf was born after this name change, Adolf was born Adolf Hitler. But isn't it interesting how close it was?"

    http://history1900s.about.com/od/hit...erancestry.htm


    "Johann von Nepomuk Hiedler, also known as Johann von Nepomuk Huttler ( 19 March 1807 - 17 September 1888 ) was Adolf Hitler's great Grandfather, and possibly his grandfather too.

    The first name Johann Nepomuk recalls that he was named after the Czech saint John Nepomuk . Some assume that this represents something in Czech in his family background. But this holy bishop was also popular in Austria , and therefore he did not require a Czech family connection.

    He was relatively wealthy farmer, and was married to the 15-year-old Eva Maria Decker ( 1792 - 1888 ). In the legal sense, he was step-uncle of Aloys Schicklgruber (later Alois Hitler), who was the stepson of his brother Johann Georg Hiedler . For unknown reasons took Johann Nepomuk Hiedler, Alois into his family when he was young and brought him up. It comprises the possibility that he was Alois' biological father, and that the reason he did not go out with the public was her own marriage. But under any circumstance left Nepomuk considerable inheritance.

    Nepomuk's granddaughter Klara , had a longstanding relationship with Alois before they married in 1885 , after Alois was widowed for the second time. In 1889 they got their son Adolf Hitler . " link

    Johann von Nepomuk Hiedler, also known as Johann von Nepomuk Huttler ( 19 March 1807 - 17 September 1888 ) was Adolf Hitler's great Grandfather, and possibly his grandfather too if the previous story is true about Rothschild not being his grandfather.
    yeah I'm sure being a Catholic family that marrying a niece is Kosher... not...

    Rothschild is such a law abiding citizen, he would never break a rule of hiring an undocumented worker... making a record disappear... or date a lonely woman...

    I think it was a nice attempt, but only convinces me she was more than a maid...

    Quote Lionel Nathan Rothschild (22 Nov. 1808 – 3 June 1879) had sex with the servant
    Maria Anna Schicklgruber on 31 August 1836 and produced Alois Hitler (7 June 1837
    –3 January 1903). Alois has the same bearing as Lionel and his nose, flat cheeks
    and chin are very similar to Lionel’s father, Nathan Mayer Rothschild.

    link
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    Hello Andrew.

    i find, when reading new material (I haven't heard of Carolyn Yeager before), signs of bias or opinion leap off the page. These phrases speak volumes:

    "Look at the schnoz on both these brothers. "

    "The peculiar hatred, bias and ridicule are of the type that only Jews express against their enemies."

    "…Langer’s own sick Jewish mind. "

    "This is exactly what they know we need to do to Jews in order to save ourselves … to “ferret out the underlying factors” that are bringing about our destruction. "

    ...new allusions to Jewish superiority…

    and she dismisses material that presents a different view of history as "anti-Hitler conspiracy sites"

    So...as one of the first steps when reading new material is to research the background of the author, to identify any possible element of propaganda/agenda. So I did.

    It seems she is the pin-up girl of the neo Nazi (she has written for The Barnes Review and has a column on the White Knights of America website), who claims that Auschwitz had "flush toilets, porcelain-covered stoves for cozy heating, and double-paned casement windows" and that Birkenau had a “beautiful, modern hygiene building” where guards and inmates “enjoyed friendly competition on Saturday afternoons and Sundays, with enthusiastic cheering sections.”

    She is a holocaust denier, and "one of the leading voices in the pro-White and revisionist community" (so says John Friend!) who is attempting to market National Socialism to women. She's the new face of hatred - who also, chillingly, writes about the virtues of motherhood…

    Of course, she in entitled to air her views. But it's important to bear in mind that is all they are: opinions that are subject to distortion to reflect a personal belief system.

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    who claims that Auschwitz had "flush toilets, porcelain-covered stoves for cozy heating, and double-paned casement windows" and that Birkenau had a “beautiful, modern hygiene building” where guards and inmates “enjoyed friendly competition on Saturday afternoons and Sundays, with enthusiastic cheering sections.”
    Loungelizard are these people liers?


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    I have to bump this to come back with more time.

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    ... the consolidation of resources into the United States under project paperclip, and later the New Deal ...
    Detail ... I think you have those two backwards.

    The New Deal was in FDR's first two terms, 1933 to roughly 1938. Operation Paperclip began in 1945, after World War II ended.

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    Quote Posted by loungelizard (here)
    i find, when reading new material (I haven't heard of Carolyn Yeager before), signs of bias or opinion leap off the page.
    ...

    She is a holocaust denier, and "one of the leading voices in the pro-White and revisionist community"
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    Loungelizard are these people liars?
    loungelizard:
    The label "holocaust denier" has become an inflammatory smear. Unfortunately, the use of this label tends to derail useful discussions, even when the evidence seems to support it.
    Andrew:
    One cannot prove that something did not happen, by providing evidence that something else happened as well.
    There is a great difference between these three positions:
    1. The concentration camps of the Third Reich were entirely about horrible genocide of as many Jews as possible, in the greatest crime in human history.
    2. There was no genocide at all of the Jews, and they were all treated well in these relocation centers.
    3. It's a jumbled mix of good and bad and shocking evil, with some genocide, some slave labor, some fine humanity, for both Jews and many others, in varying ways, both in the Second World War and in other times, all obfuscated by layers of selective truth, propaganda, laws against honest discussion, and grand lies.
    I hold to the third of these positions. I sometimes notice that those who would -appear- to dispute either of the first two positions by -apparently- taking the other of these first two positions risk side tracking useful discussions with (in my view) overly polarized claims.

    Those who come before us have most assuredly and deliberately made this topic one of the most dangerous intellectual mine fields of our time.

    Please tread cautiously.
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    Quote Posted by Andrew (here)
    Quote Posted by loungelizard (here)
    who claims that Auschwitz had "flush toilets, porcelain-covered stoves for cozy heating, and double-paned casement windows" and that Birkenau had a “beautiful, modern hygiene building” where guards and inmates “enjoyed friendly competition on Saturday afternoons and Sundays, with enthusiastic cheering sections.”
    Loungelizard are these people liers?


    Andrew .. definitely , out of thousands of people always some will be lying ..and if not lying , due to their age, brain deterioration and whatever form of PTSD,
    some have a tendency to mind manufacture testimonies .

    I know of quite few good people here n there who claim anything that can't be really verified in connection to their past .. that will rise their personal status in front of their family, children , friends .. others who take lying far enough to receive benefits for 'being war veterans' or similar while they've never been there ,
    and some ..who are pathological liars ..though they maybe quite kind and selfless people otherwise . People bordering Alzheimers or other form of dementia are good example of making up 'cute little stories' .

    Most of them ..the problem is ..spent their life in very ordinary way , imagining and projecting themselves to fake hero status .

    There's been very controversial ( real time ) story coming out with this, two three years ago when elderly couple who claimed to meet each other as young kids through the barbed wire of concentration camp , the boy was in , the girl out and gave him an apple ( something like that ) and then they found each other 20 years later in the US and married , both survivors , great love, spent telling 'their story' all life, were invited to Israel to all those holocaust survivor conferences ,
    at the end admitted that it was ALL elaborate hoax . That they wanted to remind people of the drama . That their emotions were genuine but the story was fake ..

    It's somewhere 'in papers' . You'd probably find the link if you searched for it. I believe that many who watched TV news ( or whatever ) at that moment 'stopped chewing their apples' . It set many people up and they weren't the only case .

    ..

    On the other hand ... and as I'm telling you , here in Europe , we're in the 'medias res ' , in the crux of these past events and their memories and witnesses and there's no way they were made up . It's really , like if you come 60 years later to Syria ( if there'll be any left ) and try to teach people that the holocaust - literally - happening there now never occurred, that it was all made up by media,
    will pull out some conspiracy videos that DO contain controversial testimonies and state it was all CG because we had CG in 2014 .

    Please realise , I know you do , that you're not the only one 'questioning holocaust' and that you're part of group influenced heavily by certain sociological and political ideas . This group ran and runs smear campaign in Europe and other parts of the world for decades now, more or less hidden under some regimes , popping up when possible .

    It's not any 'new ideology' or information presented here, it's actually very old - at least as old as the Nazi party itself .

    The problem as I see it - though wish I was wrong - is that you may never be able to move from your fixed opinion on these matters ..

    and in result, will miss plenty of 'big picture' causes and consequences that are running this world .

    And this isn't personal . There are many other 'ideologists' and 'conspiracy theorists' here and there, walking the world with shades on their eyes that they never put down and say that's how it looks to me.



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    Hello Andrew

    I have a very slow internet connection at the moment, so it's hard to watch videos but I have persisted (even though it took for ever…what a way to spend a Sunday morning…)

    Firstly, the title of this film - "Holohoax"- is inflammatory. The site referenced at the end of the video is HolocaustDenier.com which makes it clear the belief system of the film maker.

    The study of history is nothing to do with trying to prove to you that I'm more right than you are. It's a matter of putting your own bias and opinions to one side and sifting objectively through evidence with a clear head and an open mind. With regard to this evidence, the opening statement of the Nuremburg trials makes clear, ‘In order to avoid any accusation of exclusive reliance on personal testimony, which later generations might perceive to be biased, prosecutors decided to base their case primarily on thousands of documents, artefacts, diagrams, and photographs by the Germans themselves.

    I have used the search facility in the Visual History Archive (referred to at the beginning of the video for these testimonies), and as far as I can see, these interviews are not part of the archive. Does anyone know where they're from? Rather than watching a series of edited snippets of interviews, it would be far more educational to be able to watch the entire interviews. But unfortunately, I can't find any reference to names or sources in the video - it's not even clear to which camp they are referring in their interview.

    OK, down to specifics in this video.

    Orchestra at Auschwitz?
    Yes, there was - the Visual History Archive has 519 testimonies of survivors speaking about this subject. The official camp orchestra was created by order of the SS in December 1940.

    One of the musicians, Herman Sachnowitz, described his duties:
    "Every morning, we played as the inmate work crews departed: the same in the evening when they returned to the camp. We also played on other occasions, especially during executions by order of the SS. These occurred on Sunday afternoons. Maybe they wanted to drown out the last protestations and final curses with music. A grotesque spectacle that had been ordered at the highest level. And the SS men surrounded us with loaded weapons so we had no choice but to play. "

    At Birkenau, musicians were made to play as the trains pulled in to give an air of festivity and welcome the new inmates.Members of the orchestras gave private performances for the guards.

    This is all well documented, Andrew. If you're interested, here is quite a comprehensive site http://holocaustmusic.ort.org/places...mp-orchestras/

    A movie theatre at Buchenwald?
    Yes, and a zoo with a bear pit. And approximately 56,545 people died there (and it wasn't even a death camp).

    There was also a reservoir at Auschwitz that was used as a swimming pool - for the SS and a few chosen kapos. And?

    And there was a brothel at Auschwitz - for the SS. And?

    Postcards?
    Yes, some postcards were sent from some camps. What a golden opportunity for propaganda. They were tightly censored, and often dictated by the SS guards. A postcard saying "I'm fine!" goes a long way to hide the truth of genocide from the recipient…

    Theirenstadt?
    Part of this establishment was a "show camp" - a tremendously successful piece of propaganda by the Nazi party that a) Jews were only being"resettled": in Nazi documentation it is described in the propaganda as a "spa town" where elderly German Jews could "retire" in safety - it was the only camp where religious practice was permitted. Even though it was primarily a transit camp, 33,000 people died there. Some "spa town"….but the ghetto there were lots of artists, musicians, actors etc and they did have an amazingly rich cultural life - have you ever seen the collection of drawing by the children of the ghetto there?

    Football?
    Yes, the SS thought it fun to set up matches against the prisoners. And? At 10.45 there is a claim that the football pitch at Auschwitz was next to the gas chambers, with the implication that this somehow disproves the theory of mass executions. There are plenty of witness testimonies that speak of atrocities being witnessed during football matches http://www.polskawalczaca.com/viewto...6a797665be4cf4

    History is a complex mesh of entanglement - there are many, many contradictions in the body known as the Third Reich. How these snippets of interviews are held up to be proof that the holocaust did not happen - that it was a "holohoax" - and that the prisoners were actually all fine and dandy and having a wonderful time is not something I can understand. Is the film maker actually saying that an artist painting a life-affirming mural on the walls of a children's barracks (12 mins) proves that it was all happy families? Seriously?

    Oh my. I've just managed to watch the end of the film - for those who don't make it that far, the final couple of seconds comprise of a photograph of a family group and a voice over stating that these are survivors of the holocaust. The text on the screen seems to be doubting the veracity of the holocaust based on how many lived through it:

    "The incredible amount of "survivors" of "death camps"

    I'm speechless.

    PS (so much for being speechless ) - in reply to your question "are these people liars"...depends who you mean when you say "these people"...the film makers or the survivors.

    Upon analysis of this film, it's very clear who is lying here.
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    I tend to agree with gripreaper that this was the same game plan that has been played out again and again on this planet by the elite. Does it really matter who/what Adolf Hitler was? Does it really matter how many Jews, Gypsies and political dissidents were exterminated? If even one died (and we know that the mass sacrifice was way more than one) it would be too many. Imagine the human potential lost! We are all connected and when we lose souls in this type of horrendous pogrom, we lose part of ourselves.

    I thought long and hard before posting what I'm posting now since it is very personal. It has to do with a past life memory that I've been shown during two dreams and one meditation. I don't know if was a life that my soul lived or it was a collective memory that I was seeing but, it is very real to me.

    The first dream- I was a teenage girl living with my mother in a townhouse. It had a very European or Dutch feel to it. I was changing bed linens and my mother was in the library writing letters (not the same mother that I had in this present life). The house was cold. I was wearing a gray coat. My mother was wearing a high necked blouse and a black shawl. I also got the impression that we used to have servants to do the household tasks that I was now doing. The doorbell rang. I answered the door and a constable entered the room. I got the impression that he had come to say farewell to us. We engaged in small talk and he asked about my mother. I showed him to the library. I heard him say to her that there was nothing he could do. She accepted what he said with quiet grace. When I woke up from this dream, I "knew" that we were waiting for the Nazis to come and take us away. I also "knew" that my father and a brother had already been removed.

    Second dream- Again I was the same teenage girl dressed in a gray wool coat. I was standing in front of a bureau with a woman in Nazi uniform. Her dishwater blond hair was pulled back in a severe bun. I was handing her jewelry. As I did so I had feelings of anger, sadness, hopelessness. The I thought, well, they're just things.... The dream ended and, when I woke, I realized that it was continuation of the previous dream.

    Meditation- I was doing a heart center meditation following guidelines as developed by Drunvalo Melchizedek. In this mediation, one is supposed to be able to enter a special place that is only theirs that exists within one's heart. I entered my heart space. I was in a room that was partially underground. The walls were made of brick. There was a large door leading to another room. I wondered were I could be? There was a feeling of extreme fear. I looked into the other room and I realized that I was in the gas shower. I quickly ended the mediation because at that point I had a strong feeling that I would die if I stayed there. In hind sight, I wish that I would have stayed and explored that place more fully but, I wasn't as emotionally strong then as I am now. On reflection, I knew that my mother and I were taken there and that is where our lives ended.

    There is another thread on PA where it was discussed that the Nazi factions in the Ukraine had handed out letters to the Jewish people informing them that they had to register their persons and their property. When I read that I almost became physically sick. I'm happy that it was misinformation.

    To me, how many died, who died, who Adolf was or wasn't doesn't matter. What matters is that when these mass sacrifices happen, it hurts all of us on a collective soul level. It doesn't matter where in the world it happens or when it happens. We are wounded. The path to healing this lies in us standing up and declaring "no more". Living by honoring and respecting each other and recognizing that we are one and, in teaching our children to live by this.

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    Any kind of adulation of Hitler or "reconsideration" of the degree and magnitude of his crimes that strives to diminish the negatively of his crimes to put him in a better light makes me nauseous. To the vast majority of the world, Hitler was Satan incarnated and there's plenty of hard-core proof and evidence to support that reality.

    Sorry folks, I'm not jumping on the bandwagon with people here who are more or less implying that he wasn't as evil and destructive as historians make him out to be. Nor do I support those violent acts against Jews, Blacks, Asians, Homosexuals, the handicapped and etc and etc the world over by Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists. That they even exist gives strong indication that someday, another "Hitler" will rise to the fore and spread evil throughout the world again on an even more unprecedented scale than his predecessor.

    Hence why the righteous need to constantly remain alert for his reappearance in the world political theater to be able to nip that bud with surgical precision by throwing him back into the abyss from which he came.This absolutely needs to be done not only in our continuing fight against evil that manifests as crimes against humanity... but for our very own survival too.
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    Quote Posted by Ahnung-quay (here)
    I tend to agree with gripreaper that this was the same game plan that has been played out again and again on this planet by the elite. Does it really matter who/what Adolf Hitler was? Does it really matter how many Jews, Gypsies and political dissidents were exterminated? If even one died (and we know that the mass sacrifice was way more than one) it would be too many. Imagine the human potential lost! We are all connected and when we lose souls in this type of horrendous pogrom, we lose part of ourselves.
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    I tend to agree too ... however since we live in a problem, reaction, solution world it unfortunately does matter how things are
    packaged and sold to the public en large. While we also know that history is written by the victors it might not be a bad idea to be
    cautious with 'official' narratives too. The worst thing that can happen is that we don't learn from the events. What we need is pure
    truthful facts otherwise we create new ideologies based on myths, one way or the other!

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    Quote Posted by Operator (here)
    While we also know that history is written by the victors it might not be a bad idea to be
    cautious with 'official' narratives too.
    I agree with much of your post, Operator, but it's really important to acknowledge the fact that, when discussing the events of the holocaust, we remember that the Third Reich kept immaculate, comprehensive records of everything they did. The study of this period of history is based around - in the vast majority of cases - source material compiled by the Nazis themselves in the form of records/photos/films/documents/blueprints/diaries.



    This wasn't written by the victors, and as there are thousands of pieces of physical evidence, it's not open to interpretation either.

    This is the reason for the statement at the beginning of the Nuremberg trials that I quoted: ‘In order to avoid any accusation of exclusive reliance on personal testimony, which later generations might perceive to be biased, prosecutors decided to base their case primarily on thousands of documents, artefacts, diagrams, and photographs by the Germans themselves

    We are not talking about opinions, subjective judgments or interpretation as historical accounts can be (either deliberately or innocently) open to interpretation and the projection of an individual's viewpoint.

    The history of the holocaust is not a history told by the victors, however much some would like to have you believe that.

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