It's an argument that is wrong.Posted by Cosmored (here)
It's an argument that there were no killings in gas wagons. It says that diesel was said to have been used and that diesel fumes only make people sick. It says that diesel fumes don't kill.
Here are just 3 studies that prove conclusively that the fumes from diesel engines contain lethal amounts of carbon monoxide: it is therefore proven that diesel engines could be used to murder human beings.
The first study was conducted in 1941 by Holtz and Elliott.
http://cybra.lodz.pl/Content/6253/v63no2_1941.pdf
The second study was done in 1957 by R.E. Pattle et al.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...00217-0053.pdf
This study is from 2008
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18643868/
And of course, there are the testimonies of those who operated the vans or who witnessed them in action:
Testimony of Stanislaw Dubiel (Höß Trial, vol. 25, p. 82):
It was Sturmbannführer Henschel who at first seemed to us to have a very good character. And in a few days, he found another method – gassing in a car. The car goes to Birkenau, by the time it gets there everyone is dead. The driver explained how it works, that the exhaust pipe goes straight into the car. By the time the driver gets to where he’s going, they’re already dead. That was the behaviour of this supposedly good man.
Testimony of Jan Dziopek (Höß Trial, vol. 8, p. 109):
They were carried out at Block 11 until October 1944, after that the condemned were killed only at Birkenau, where they were taken from our place* in a prison van. That type of van was very tightly sealed and had apparatus for gassing the people inside. The gassing apparatus was built in the automobile workshops of the Fahrbereitschafts–Kommando.
* I.e. Auschwitz main camp.
Testimony of Edward Wrona (Höß Trial, vol. 26, p. 8.):
I think none of the witnesses has emphasized that gas vans were used at Auschwitz. I assume that the accused Höß knew about it, because he went every day to look at his beautiful limousine in the automobile workshops and saw the three vans in which people were murdered standing there. Working at the water pumping station in Block 18, I leaned my head out and observed how girls and men were packed into these vans and the executions were carried out. I witnessed how one night a German general was executed, supposedly just for refusing to carry out an order in wartime. That time around 50 limousines drove up with a huge retinue of generals and the camp command, and the execution* was carried out ceremoniously, lighting up the wall of death and the square behind Block 11 with a searchlight.
* Possibly this refers to different, "regular" execution.
Testimony of Kazimierz Grabowski (Höß Trial, vol. 26, p. 32, 33):
Presiding judge: Was there* a truck there designated in advance for gassing people?
Witness: Once one van that was especially encased in wood came in for repairs, I didn’t know what kind of van it was. German vehicles ran on methanol. There it was fitted with an exhaust pipe, round with small holes, when the prisoners were inside the van, the gas got in that way. After 15 minutes a person was ready. Before it even reached the crematorium, there were only corpses in the van. I ran across only one vehicle like that, on which I worked.
Pres: Was the van constantly in use?
Witness: Constantly, unless it was damaged, then it went in to be fixed.
Pres: Was this van used inside the camp, or outside?
Witness: That I don’t know.
* I.e. in the camp automobile repair workshops.
Testimony of Jozef Sliwa (APMAB, Collection "Statements", vol. 3, p. 336, 337):
When a larger number of sick people had accumulated*, they were taken in vans to Auschwitz. I saw the vans – gas chambers, into which transports of Muselmans were loaded. I went inside and saw the gassing apparatus, i.e. pipes to let the exhaust gases in.
* In the Golleschau sub-camp.
Testimony of Zbigniew Kazmierczyk (APMAB, Collection "Statements", vol. 45, p. 4):
Commissions often came from Auschwitz, which carried out selections among sick prisoners in the hospital. The selected prisoners were taken away to Auschwitz by vehicles, already gassing them on the way. I know from what friends told me that they were dark green, reinforced, sealed when closed, into which exhaust gas was let in.
Testimony of Wladyslaw de Rosenberg Grohs, police prisoner from Block 11 (APMAB. Collection "Statements", vol. 73, p. 38):
Yes, well out of my hall sometimes only two persons out of 100 were transferred as prisoners to one of the blocks in the camp, the rest were loaded into trucks. In any case, at that time executions were not carried out in the courtyard of Block 11. We were convinced that the prisoners sentenced to death by the police Special Court were suffocated with exhaust products in the boxes of vans – before they got as far as the crematoria.
Testimony of Artur Meyer (APMAB, Collection "Statements", vol. 93, p. 23, 23a):
Moreover, in Auschwitz there was a special apparatus. It was a van - gas chamber. Up to 14 people were loaded into this van, it was hermetically sealed and by the time the van arrived at Birkenau, its passengers were gassed to death.
Testimony of George Goiny-Grabowski (APMAB, Collection "Statements", vol. 61, p. 167):
As the Russian front approached Auschwitz, a police Einsatzkommando arrived, whose members wore uniforms with green cuffs. Among their vehicles were two gas vans, which I had an opportunity to examine in detail. The exhaust gases could be led into the box [of the van which was] filled with condemned people... The gas vans had an image showing a human head with a hand holding its nose.
Testimony of Kazimierz Czyzewski (Höß Trial, vol. 35, p. 163):
Hitlerite civilian special courts. They arrived every 14 days and tried hundreds of civilians in this Block 11. After the verdict, these people were driven into a hermetically sealed yellow van. Up to 50 people fit into it - the SS driver drove them to the crematorium (the prisoners did not know where they were going), and in this van the people were gassed, the corpses were thrown out and cremated.
There is an excellent search facility - you won't have a problem.Posted by Cosmored (here)
This would take hours and hours. If you know of something specific about the gas chambers, could you link to it?But as you’ve started, here is an amazing resource: The Harvard Law School Library provides access to approximately one million pages of documents
relating to the trials. You can search trial transcripts, books documents, legal briefs, evidence files etc etc.
https://nuremberg.law.harvard.edu