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    Default Re: Must read: sex, Christ, astral, all according to your use of your genitals.

    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Quote Posted by Tony (here)
    More haste less speed

    The answer is always right under our nose, and is not complicated.
    Reason clears the mind, whereas speculation and fantasy don't.
    Forums are not places of refined understanding.

    If one truly wants to realise the truth, one has to make an effort.
    We start by losing our pride. There are secret teachings, but teachings
    are not handed out to those who chose to bang their fists on the key board,
    rather than learn the scales.

    There are those who enter 3 or 6 year - or lifetime - retreats in order to
    study and practise, and receive such teachings,
    but very few are willing to make such an effort.
    Still there are simple practices for we house holders that work very well
    in this turbulent age.

    We must first take care of our body, speech and mind.
    Then we can express this in our conduct...compassion.

    To start we can use logic:

    With some reflection it becomes obvious that nothing is permanent,
    that everything passes with time, that all created things are transient.
    It is sometimes more pleasant to delude ourselves into thinking that
    the same situation will last.

    Thus the truth of impermanence is forgotten. What should be done today,
    is postponed until tomorrow. Knowing that some actions lead to
    unhappiness and thinking that the change in habit can be effected later,
    another opportunity for doing what results in a more healthy
    state is neglected.

    Unwilling to admit that life may end in the next instant, no effort is
    made to make this instant as perfect as could be. Aware of the importance
    of meditation and following precepts, still we ignore, and the mirror
    of mind remains clouded.

    The whole point of any practice (however weird) is to recognise the
    true nature of our mind. And that is pure awareness.
    In pure awareness everything makes sense, seeing that everything
    arises our of causes and conditions, and has no power of its own.

    Our body is merely a vehicle, our speech is an expression of compassion,
    and our mind has the nature of pure clarity, whose insight can teach us
    everything.

    Frustration born from excessive activity and expectation is understandable
    in a speedy must-have-it-now world. The slower we go the more we
    understand, and the more insight is gained.

    The modern world wants turmoil, and this stops people seeing clearly.



    Tony


    Cherish those who seek truth but be weary of those who claim to have found it
    Voltaire

    Tony always trying to offer enlightenment.
    If you read between the lines what Tony is really offering is his status as guru.

    Kill logic and reason is that it?
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    Default Re: Must read: sex, Christ, astral, all according to your use of your genitals.

    Quote Posted by Tony (here)
    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Quote Posted by Tony (here)
    More haste less speed

    The answer is always right under our nose, and is not complicated.
    Reason clears the mind, whereas speculation and fantasy don't.
    Forums are not places of refined understanding.

    If one truly wants to realise the truth, one has to make an effort.
    We start by losing our pride. There are secret teachings, but teachings
    are not handed out to those who chose to bang their fists on the key board,
    rather than learn the scales.

    There are those who enter 3 or 6 year - or lifetime - retreats in order to
    study and practise, and receive such teachings,
    but very few are willing to make such an effort.
    Still there are simple practices for we house holders that work very well
    in this turbulent age.

    We must first take care of our body, speech and mind.
    Then we can express this in our conduct...compassion.

    To start we can use logic:

    With some reflection it becomes obvious that nothing is permanent,
    that everything passes with time, that all created things are transient.
    It is sometimes more pleasant to delude ourselves into thinking that
    the same situation will last.

    Thus the truth of impermanence is forgotten. What should be done today,
    is postponed until tomorrow. Knowing that some actions lead to
    unhappiness and thinking that the change in habit can be effected later,
    another opportunity for doing what results in a more healthy
    state is neglected.

    Unwilling to admit that life may end in the next instant, no effort is
    made to make this instant as perfect as could be. Aware of the importance
    of meditation and following precepts, still we ignore, and the mirror
    of mind remains clouded.

    The whole point of any practice (however weird) is to recognise the
    true nature of our mind. And that is pure awareness.
    In pure awareness everything makes sense, seeing that everything
    arises our of causes and conditions, and has no power of its own.

    Our body is merely a vehicle, our speech is an expression of compassion,
    and our mind has the nature of pure clarity, whose insight can teach us
    everything.

    Frustration born from excessive activity and expectation is understandable
    in a speedy must-have-it-now world. The slower we go the more we
    understand, and the more insight is gained.

    The modern world wants turmoil, and this stops people seeing clearly.



    Tony


    Cherish those who seek truth but be weary of those who claim to have found it
    Voltaire

    Tony always trying to offer enlightenment.
    If you read between the lines what Tony is really offering is his status as guru.

    Kill logic and reason is that it?
    You talk about how folks need to stop reading forums/books for spirituality and instead meditate. All the while typing up 5000 word manifestos for folks to read while telling them to stop reading forums and instead meditate. Isn't that a kind of hypocrisy? Wouldn't it be better to use a three line poem or a haiku as a gentle reminder to meditate instead of insulting folks with finger wagging preachy Buddhism?

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    Default Re: Must read: sex, Christ, astral, all according to your use of your genitals.

    Quote Posted by bram (here)
    Quote Posted by Loony (here)
    Quote Posted by naste.de.lumina (here)

    Consent generates Karma.

    Even unconscious consent.

    This is one of the insidious tricks of the dark cabal.
    unconscious consent does not account for murderers (War), rapists, pedophiles & various other scum being able to create karma for the people of nations that that are unaware of such atrocities being committed
    Don't we hide behind our ignorance as an excuse? Of course, it's easier to believe the lies our governments tell us about the things that they do - whilst all the time inwardly knowing the truth - and then feeling the relief that we don't have to be responsible because of our ignorance. However, it's what we know that counts, not what we pretend not to know.

    And in the uncountable lifetimes we have lived, we have all been murderers, rapists, paedophiles - the suffering we caused is the suffering we now experience. Its just the wheel of karma turning, turning, turning.....
    Sorry Roman this isn't relevant to your thread, although I do want to address this.

    Some do hide behind ignorance yes but I am aware that the government (that I haven't voted for once i might add) are trying to start wars, diverting funds from projects that would help the nation, creating projects that hinder the nation, hiding pedophiles and rapists and murderers in high places and lots more. This does not mean I am going to accumulate karma for their actions in committing these acts.

    I am definitely on the same page as littleOne & naste.de.lumina with their understanding of karma and egregore but I have to bring up this example

    There are many aliens here at earth now, some good, some bad. The good guys are reluctant to do anything due to the fact that if they do anything they will accumulate karma, now these guys are not unaware of what is going on here on earth they are very aware, they have much more knowledge than us about what is going on and yet they still chose to do nothing, obviously we won't learn anything if we are saved but they would also accumulate karma if any intervention was taken. The knowledge and awareness of what is going on is their and they take no action to help us knowing full well what will happen and still don't accumulate karma because of it.

    They understand it is not their created game or a game they want to take part in, they see the game for what it is and decide that they don't want anything to do with it. Their observation of the effects of the game without entering the game does not have karmic repercussions on them but they are aware of what is happening and that the ones playing the game accepted to play. The participators agreement is very relevant in this situation. Now here on earth we all agreed to take part in the original game of earth, once here our unresolved games (past life karmic cycle) gets set up with the required people and we are free to create new games also. Any game created of karmic cycle is relevant to the participators others can join if they want but they ultimately do have a choice whether to enter or not and if they choose not to they won't accumulate karma because they didn't want to play. What is happening here on earth is like the film Inception except with games instead of dreams. A game within a game within a game and on and on. If a game is presented to you, you need to think long and hard about whether to agree and enter it, but if you choose not to enter it your awareness of it will not make you accumulate karma because of it.

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    Default Re: Must read: sex, Christ, astral, all according to your use of your genitals.

    to DNA...

    We are all teachers. We are all students.
    We are all free to give others the label of teacher.
    We are all free to play the role of teacher.
    We are all free to play the role of student.
    These labels are interchangeable.

    What is the problem here?

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    Default Re: Must read: sex, Christ, astral, all according to your use of your genitals.

    And I'm ordering you to look at this picture, ROMAN



    For at least two hours.

    Then meditate on this (for 45 minutes daily)

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    Default Re: Must read: sex, Christ, astral, all according to your use of your genitals.

    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Quote Posted by Tony (here)
    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Quote Posted by Tony (here)
    More haste less speed

    The answer is always right under our nose, and is not complicated.
    Reason clears the mind, whereas speculation and fantasy don't.
    Forums are not places of refined understanding.

    If one truly wants to realise the truth, one has to make an effort.
    We start by losing our pride. There are secret teachings, but teachings
    are not handed out to those who chose to bang their fists on the key board,
    rather than learn the scales.

    There are those who enter 3 or 6 year - or lifetime - retreats in order to
    study and practise, and receive such teachings,
    but very few are willing to make such an effort.
    Still there are simple practices for we house holders that work very well
    in this turbulent age.

    We must first take care of our body, speech and mind.
    Then we can express this in our conduct...compassion.

    To start we can use logic:

    With some reflection it becomes obvious that nothing is permanent,
    that everything passes with time, that all created things are transient.
    It is sometimes more pleasant to delude ourselves into thinking that
    the same situation will last.

    Thus the truth of impermanence is forgotten. What should be done today,
    is postponed until tomorrow. Knowing that some actions lead to
    unhappiness and thinking that the change in habit can be effected later,
    another opportunity for doing what results in a more healthy
    state is neglected.

    Unwilling to admit that life may end in the next instant, no effort is
    made to make this instant as perfect as could be. Aware of the importance
    of meditation and following precepts, still we ignore, and the mirror
    of mind remains clouded.

    The whole point of any practice (however weird) is to recognise the
    true nature of our mind. And that is pure awareness.
    In pure awareness everything makes sense, seeing that everything
    arises our of causes and conditions, and has no power of its own.

    Our body is merely a vehicle, our speech is an expression of compassion,
    and our mind has the nature of pure clarity, whose insight can teach us
    everything.

    Frustration born from excessive activity and expectation is understandable
    in a speedy must-have-it-now world. The slower we go the more we
    understand, and the more insight is gained.

    The modern world wants turmoil, and this stops people seeing clearly.



    Tony


    Cherish those who seek truth but be weary of those who claim to have found it
    Voltaire

    Tony always trying to offer enlightenment.
    If you read between the lines what Tony is really offering is his status as guru.

    Kill logic and reason is that it?
    You talk about how folks need to stop reading forums/books for spirituality and instead meditate. All the while typing up 5000 word manifestos for folks to read while telling them to stop reading forums and instead meditate. Isn't that a kind of hypocrisy? Wouldn't it be better to use a three line poem or a haiku as a gentle reminder to meditate instead of insulting folks with finger wagging preachy Buddhism?


    Do you tell everyone how to write?

    "A stable mind".

    Is that simple enough?
    www.buddhainthemud.com

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    Default Re: Must read: sex, Christ, astral, all according to your use of your genitals.

    by Samael Aun Weor in english - download
    You can download all the books listed below in one zip archive HERE or you can download each one.
    We recommend you to check out the www.gnosticteaching.org site for their on line books (on Books by Samael Aun Weor section), with polished translation, and for printed books.
    1950 THE PERFECT MATRIMONY  / 1961
    1950 THE REVOLUTION OF BEELZEBUB
    1951 ZODIACAL COURSES
    1952 OCCULT MEDICINE AND PRACTICAL MAGIC 1978
    1952 The BOOK OF THE VIRGIN of CARMEN
    1952 CHRIST CONSCIOUNSNESS
    1953 THE SEVEN WORDS
    1954 MANUAL OF PRACTICAL MAGIC
    1954 IGNEOUS ROSE
    1954 TREATISE OF SEXUAL ALCHEMY
    1955 THE MYSTERIES OF THE FIRE
    1956 GREATER MISTERIES  (or Major Misteries)
    1959 ESOTERIC TRATISE OF THEURGY
    1959 CHRIST WILL
    1959 THE YELLOW BOOK
    1959 LOGOS MANTRAM THEURGY
    1960 MESSAGE OF AQUARIUS
    1961 THE PERFECT MATRIMONY
    1961 INTRODUCCTION TO THE GNOSIS
    1962 THE MYSTERIES OF LIFE AND DEATH
    1963 MARRIAGE DIVORCE TANTRISM 
    1964 DISSOLVING THE I (1963-1964)
    1964 THE SOCIAL CHRIST
    1965 THE BOOK OF THE DEAD
    1965 SPIRITUAL POWER OF SOUND (The Science of Music)
    1967 BUDDHA NECKLACE
    1967 ESOTERIC TREATISE OF HERMETIC ASTROLOGY
    1968 THE SOLAR BODIES
    1969 MAGIC RUNES
    1969 MY RETURN INTO TIBET (Cosmic teachings of a Lama)
    1969 ESOTERIC COURSE OF KABBALAH
    1970 FUNDAMENTAL EDUCATION
    1970 BEYOND DEATH
    1970 THE PARSIFAL UNVEILED
    1971 THE MYSTERY OF THE GOLDEN BLOSSOM
    1972 THE THREE MOUNTAINS
    1972 LOOKING AT THE MYSTERY
    1973 AZTEC CHRISTIC MAGIC
    1973 YES THERE IS HELL, EVIL, KARMA
    1974 THE SECRET DOCTRINE OF ANAHUAC
    1975 TREATISE OF REVOLUTIONARY PSYCHOLOGY
    1975 THE GREAT REBELLION
    1978 THE INITIATIC PATH IN THE ARCANE OF THE TAROT AND KABBALAH
    1978 GNOSTIC ANTHROPOLOGY
    1978 OCCULT MEDICINE AND PRACTICAL MAGIC
    1980 FOR THE FEW
    1983 PISTIS SOFIA UNVEILED
    19__  THE REVOLUTION OF THE DIALECTIC
    19__ EXERCISES OF LAMASERY
                INTERVIEW by RADIO ICUR 1977
                INTERVIEW with VM SAW 1977
                THE RINGS OF THE ALCYONE
    and                    LECTURES by SAMAEL AUN WEOR (PDFs in zip archive)

    More books on gnosticteachings.org, (entire or partial) :  Fundamental Notions Of Endocrinology And Criminology (1957),  Alchemy and Kabbalah (1969),  Mayan Mysteries (1977)

    http://www.samaelaunweor.ro/1%20download_eng.html
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    Default Re: Must read: sex, Christ, astral, all according to your use of your genitals.

    I read this thread. The thread convinces me I do not want to read the book. I'm not going down a path of control through fear ever again.

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    Default Re: Must read: sex, Christ, astral, all according to your use of your genitals.

    Thank you Ulli, i will do it to, and we may then report our meditation right?

    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    And I'm ordering you to look at this picture, ROMAN



    For at least two hours.

    Then meditate on this (for 45 minutes daily)


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    Default Re: Must read: sex, Christ, astral, all according to your use of your genitals.

    Well, well, well, what a bunch of pussies, I posted this on Avalon and TheOneTruth at the same time, gave a Dramatic intro which included my womanising for effects and 100 page book and watched THE OH so spiritual monkeys at work, as it started to progress I called some people to watch this FEAR from so called grown and stable spiritual elite full of care and concern.

    I Waiting for some idiot to actually read the Fking book first, before opinionating, but NO my stupid mistake.

    Not all of you but most of you showed concern and I thank you, but you did not read the fking book.

    Pearls to swine my friends, pearls to swine.

    In this book are pearls, if only you gave yourself, your overintellectual brain a chance, he divulged things that others had been killed for, you fearmongering pussies.

    Why did the Roman Catholic Church exterminates the Gnostics, why were they underground for 2000 years

    Some of you are so fking stupid, you shame me. Its amazing that you managed to learn how to breathe.

    Dont Like, Dont Read, Keep your nonsense and opinions to your self

    Can you not by now discern, and read between the line of what is written, Do you think I am going to have sex hissing like a fking snake, I would get my face smacked and get my balls kicked inn, Grow up Oh wise ones.

    I will not discuss this book with you Guys, stay where you are, you will never move on or progress with an attitude, talk about being negative

    Warmest regards as ever to you all, dumb or not

    roman

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    Not constuctive, and raises resentment....

    With Love
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    Default Re: Must read: sex, Christ, astral, all according to your use of your genitals.

    Don't give up yet Roman, Iv'e been trying to get through the book and yes I am very interested. But I would't be able to discuss anything about it till I have a better understanding. Some of us are still trying to absorb the material. Your friend .....Grizz

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    Default Re: Must read: sex, Christ, astral, all according to your use of your genitals.

    Quote Posted by Catsquotl (here)
    Lol, Really?

    What is it to you?
    With Mark Passio I took the gamble, listened to the first 12 episode's and did not find it interesting. Asked you repeatedly then to sort of tell in your own words what his work meant to you. Apart from the fact that you finally saw the truth and that I should maybe listen more.. You did not offer your insights if my recollection of the facts are valid that is.
    (I have a terrible memory)

    Anyway as a father and provider working too much etc. I like to use my time on thing I know that are valuable for me.
    So far you have not offered any contructive information on what pearls the book may hold.. Some people skimmed the book, even started reading a few pages and did not find what you seem to have gotten from it.

    Now what does that tell you. That we are stupid? ungratefull sons of ******* for not reading Roman's latest discovery?

    With Love
    Eelco
    I am sorry that you have a bad memory I have no way of knowing that, I will not waste my time telling you things that you will not remember, I work 6 days a week 10 hour day, your on the wrong page, or have you forgotten.

    Regards

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    Quote Posted by ROMANWKT (here)

    Warmest regards as ever to you all, dumb or not

    roman
    This seems like an un-necessary raging post and actually seems not triggered by what I saw in the other posts. It suggests that the book was not all that helpful if it taught the poster to use a word that is so beautiful as a curse. My kitties smile ruefully to hear that men believe there is a value in using what they (and I) know is really furry, sweet, purring and loving as a curse.

    Quote "Curses from the mouth of the mind of heart shrunk cripples. Small, shriveled misers of divine flow, what COULD they know?" Kitty Pussie Cat Philosopher
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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    Quote Posted by ROMANWKT (here)

    Warmest regards as ever to you all, dumb or not

    roman
    This seems like an un-necessary raging post and actually seems not triggered by what I saw in the other posts. It suggests that the book was not all that helpful if it taught the poster to use a word that is so beautiful as a curse. My kitties smile ruefully to hear that men believe there is a value in using what they (and I) know is really furry, sweet, purring and loving as a curse.

    Quote "Curses from the mouth of the mind of heart shrunk cripples. Small, shriveled misers of divine flow, what COULD they know?" Kitty Pussie Cat Philosopher
    Just

    Thank you Delight, these here pussies need big time training

    Warmest regards

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    Quote Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
    your on the wrong page, or have you forgotten.

    Regards

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    Yup wrong Page, sorry about that.. Won't happen again.

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    Roman

    I took the time to read the material you posted.

    I asked you a few questions to get your take on a couple of things.

    You did not reply.

    You did not enter into any discussion.

    I don't understand what you want from people

    If you want to discuss the material, let's discuss the material.

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    your on the wrong page, or have you forgotten.

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    Yup wrong Page, sorry about that.. Won't happen again.

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    Dear Catsquot

    I do not dabble in this information, If I bring this information up for people to check it out, its because there is something that we should at least look into, I do this 24/7, I had not had a holiday for the past 20 years, this is all I do my friend, and those that know me, will tell you I do not play games, and I dont dabble, and have no time for Bull**** in respect to what I do, I have absolutely no patience with dabblers, one either does or does not, thats who I am and always have been.

    I apologies if I had upset you, I am not upset with you, apologies

    roman

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    Default Re: Must read: sex, Christ, astral, all according to your use of your genitals.

    Quote Posted by loungelizard (here)
    Roman

    I took the time to read the material you posted.

    I asked you a few questions to get your take on a couple of things.

    You did not reply.

    You did not enter into any discussion.

    I don't understand what you want from people

    If you want to discuss the material, let's discuss the material.
    Hi loungelizard

    So sorry, I was waiting for the pussies to get over the shock of somebody asking them to read a book, I am not a Master, or a Guru, you should ask the professed Gurus who roam this web site.

    Regards and thank you

    roman

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    Default Re: Must read: sex, Christ, astral, all according to your use of your genitals.

    Quote Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
    I do not dabble in this information, If I bring this information up for people to check it out, its because there is something that we should at least look into, I do this 24/7, I had not had a holiday for the past 20 years, this is all I do my friend, and those that know me, will tell you I do not play games, and I dont dabble, and have no time for Bull**** in respect to what I do, I have absolutely no patience with dabblers, one either does or does not, thats who I am and always have been.
    This might seem unrelated, but does the 'name' Shadderfer mean anything to you? He said something similar to me about 'dabblers' in an unrelated forum.

    I appreciate your conviction to the information you provide. Mark Passio was a breath of fresh air (for the most part) as he echoed perceptions and dispositions I had reached, held, and maintained as being either 'perceivably true' or 'reasonably probable'.

    I have not yet read the book you present, though I saved it for later perusal. I will get to it eventually but have other responsibilities, obligations, time constraints, and interests (including OTHER more LENGTHY books) that are more pressing (not to mention less dictatorial),

    I will say, your demeanor in this particular thread is not exactly a glowing recommendation as to the veracity of the book. If the proof can be said to be in the pudding, I am unimpressed.

    Surely you have heard that what is right and correct for one person is not necessarily right and correct for all?

    My advice: Less vitriol, less rhetoric, more veritas. And yes, I know you did not ask for advice, but neither did I ask your permission to give it. ^_~

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