# Thread: 9, The number of the universe

1. ## 9, The number of the universe

9 is a very interesting number and is the key number to the universe. It is hidden everywhere and most people don't realize it, hidden in places like angles, measurements, and time. For example, take standard measurements. A 90 degree angle breaks down to 9+0=9, a 45 degree angle is 4+5 =9, a 22.5 degree angle is 2+2+5=9, a 180 degree angle breaks down to 1+8+0=9, and a full circle 360 degrees breaks down to 3+6+0=9. Now we move on to time there are 1440 minutes in a 24 hour day. This breaks down to 1+4+4+0= 9. There are 86,400 seconds in a day. This breaks down to (8+6+4+0+0=18/ 1+8=9). Now take a year if there are 1440 minutes in a day and there are 365 days in a standard year. That's 525,600 minutes in a year. That breaks down to 5+2+5+6+0+0=18/ 1+8=9. The number 9 is in everything of any measure in the universe and is hidden all over religious texts and old philosophical works. There is a multi part documentary on youtube that goes into these connections further and touches on many other aspects about how ancient knowledge has been suppressed from us. I will post the link at the end of this thread. I am a musician and a recording expert. In my field I have noticed that the industry standard for music is A440 hertz. This has been changed from the original standard of A432 hertz (4+3+2=9). Its is not known why it was changed, but I feel it was done deliberately to keep us out of balance with nature. That's why people can listen to old record albums of Bach and Beethoven and feel such strong emotions that it can bring tears to their eyes. Mainstream music has become junk art lately and I suspect it is on purpose. Below is the link for the documentary series, Ancient Knowledge. It is very powerful and I recommend everyone go and watch all parts of it. My life has changed drastically after watching it. Happy searching to all of my new friends.

Ancient Knowledge Series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVUU3p5iHMA

Aaron

Question everything, no matter who told you, even if I told you

-Buddha

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3. ## Re: 9, The number of the universe

Have you checked into Marko Rodin's work? He talks about the significance of 1-4-7, 2-5-8, and 3-6-9 and how a specific sequence of these numbers creates the matrix of everything and enables energy to flow in the most efficient manner. Check him out on You Tube.

I agree with you on the A 432. For work on sound, how it fits with geometry and numbers check out Richard Merrick's work. Some of his books are free online. he believes all matter is frozen sound waves.

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5. ## Re: 9, The number of the universe

Im not familiar with him but those number sequences are tied in with this documentary series also, especially 3-6-9. Those are the main root numbers. Thanks for the tip, ill check him out for sure. it seems that this documentary series i pointed out may have ties with this Rodin guy you speak of

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Also, I've looked at the work of Bozena Brydlova who feels that the origin of the numbers 1-9 was the splitting of a circle into various 45 degree angles. I'm not a mathematician but, I live the study of numbers.

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9. ## Re: 9, The number of the universe

3 separations by the 3? Perhaps. 9 has been coming through, do you think we've reached a 9th gate of vibratory energy?

Interesting.

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11. ## Re: 9, The number of the universe

Very possible Lifebringer

12. ## Re: 9, The number of the universe

Its all very mind boggling. the interesting things is in the Old Testament of the bible. most of the stories are actually hidden mathematical theories and equations hidden with stories, so only the wise could decipher them. Take the story of Adam and Eve. It is theorized that the serpent in the story is actually a sine wave, if you are familiar with what one looks like. The word (Sin) is actually code for (Sine) and the tree of knowledge is the hidden physics within the bible. its very interesting stuff in this documentary. The further I go into the series the more my mind gets blown.

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14. ## Re: 9, The number of the universe

George Gurdjieff is another to check out regarding music and how these numbers flow. If you look at the yin-yang symbol, the curved line between the two fish or halves is the sine wave. I believe it is the nine. I've been studying the zodiac and it's relationship to all of this and haven't nailed down a provable theory yet. There are usually two ways to go with it. I have, however, figured out how to plot the zodiac signs on a sine wave graph that results in the two waves crossing at the Gate of man (Gemini-Cancer) and the Gate of God (Sagittarius-Capricorn). I believe that it all fits- As above, so below; as below, so above.

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16. ## Re: 9, The number of the universe

WOW, great info. will definitely check it out. Anything that deals with music peaks my interest immediately. one of my goals in life is to create music that gives a person a spiritual response or an awakening, so to speak. I believe it is possible with the right tones (vibrations).

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18. ## Re: 9, The number of the universe

I think I've watched parts of the Ancient Knowledge series before but, you've inspired me to watch it again. I'm off to do so now.

19. ## Re: 9, The number of the universe

If you watch network news, watch for the 369 occurences. It comes up more than probability would dictate. Usually mixed into benign and uncheckable statistics.

I think it has something to do with functioning on the subconcious associations.

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21. ## Re: 9, The number of the universe

This discussion brought back memories of sulfeggio frequencies. I need to get my hands on some of those to meditate to once more.

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23. ## Re: 9, The number of the universe

I would pick the number 7 , if I had to give infinite space a number ... the seven belts of creation , the seven sisters , the seven prophets , the seven stages of evolution , the seven sub-stages of evolution , if we go extinct it will be the seventh extinction , the seven days of a week , seven the number of perfection and completion ... not to disagree with your research , just a different perspective ...

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25. ## Re: 9, The number of the universe

Posted by ghostrider (here)
I would pick the number 7 , if I had to give infinite space a number ... the seven belts of creation , the seven sisters , the seven prophets , the seven stages of evolution , the seven sub-stages of evolution , if we go extinct it will be the seventh extinction , the seven days of a week , seven the number of perfection and completion ... not to disagree with your research , just a different perspective ...
It is also the only base-10 that does not divide into 360.
360/1 = 1 | 360/2 = 180 | 360/3 = 120 | 360/4 = 90 | 360/5 = 72 | 360/6 = 60 | 360/7 = 51.428571 | 360/8 = 45 | 360/9 = 40 | 360/10 = 36

In some numerological thinking a divisible number [that is not an approximation=decimal] is a complex made of interactions between separate forces. An indivisible number is a force unto itself.

Every number is important though, there is no "god number" in my opinion. It's all infinite differentiation from 1.

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27. ## Re: 9, The number of the universe

Posted by noprophet (here)
Posted by ghostrider (here)
I would pick the number 7 , if I had to give infinite space a number ... the seven belts of creation , the seven sisters , the seven prophets , the seven stages of evolution , the seven sub-stages of evolution , if we go extinct it will be the seventh extinction , the seven days of a week , seven the number of perfection and completion ... not to disagree with your research , just a different perspective ...
It is also the only base-10 that does not divide into 360.
360/1 = 1 | 360/2 = 180 | 360/3 = 120 | 360/4 = 90 | 360/5 = 72 | 360/6 = 60 | 360/7 = 51.428571 | 360/8 = 45 | 360/9 = 40 | 360/10 = 36

In some numerological thinking a divisible number [that is not an approximation=decimal] is a complex made of interactions between separate forces. An indivisible number is a force unto itself.

Every number is important though, there is no "god number" in my opinion. It's all infinite differentiation from 1.
I totally agree , all numbers are important , you need the number 1 to go anywhere with it ... no matter how far forward you go , you can always get back to 1 ...

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29. ## Re: 9, The number of the universe

The octave is eight notes. The ninth note is the start of a new octave. The Mayan Long Count tracks 9 X 20-fold accelerating Creational Time.

Yes, the seven is also very important as there are thought to be seven levels of creation. Seven is also exemplified in the human body with the seven chakras. Add the chakra below the root (earth/matter) and the chakra above (sky/spirit) and there are nine. I believe that seven has to do more with matter or the physical. Nine has more to do with electrical energy. That's just my opinion.

Johan Oldenkamp has a nice summary of some creation theories using numbers, music, and time.

http://www.pateo.nl/PDF/WhollyScience.pdf

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31. ## Re: 9, The number of the universe

Thanks. My middle name is Neun which is '9' in German. Warren Neun Light

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33. ## Re: 9, The number of the universe

If I understood 9 is the eternal number (the unchangeable) ask the Beatles about number 9 number 9 .... (in one of their songs)

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35. ## Re: 9, The number of the universe

Posted by Ahnung-quay (here)
Have you checked into Marko Rodin's work? He talks about the significance of 1-4-7, 2-5-8, and 3-6-9 and how a specific sequence of these numbers creates the matrix of everything and enables energy to flow in the most efficient manner. Check him out on You Tube.

I agree with you on the A 432. For work on sound, how it fits with geometry and numbers check out Richard Merrick's work. Some of his books are free online. he believes all matter is frozen sound waves.
Super reference to introduce the concept.

From my own research I am content to state the following in respect to my belief that:
In and of the Cosmos, only nine quantifier identifiers exist. There does not exist in the Cosmos a zero identifier. The Cosmos is not dependent on a denary (base 10) system.
(i.e. the conventional numbers of 1-9)

The zero, I propose, was the identifier for use in a denary system of medicine in respect of "fingers and toes", counting, making it more convenient and adaptable.
The use of zero in the post period of the Exodus, after the Arc of the Covenant was stolen from Egypt, represented the "God", the "master" or "the one that assigns true balance." This use of zero with the nine others provided a convenient and adaptable means of "counting". This was the birth of accounting and economy. Mankinds poison.

Anyways, Marko Rodins work is definitely worth a look, very easy to follow, intuitive and absorbing.

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