Graham Hancock - Ancient Man and Our Mysterious Origins // Gobekli Tepe Roundtable march 2014

[Cidersomerset]

Graham has been researching for a follow up to his book 'Fingerprints of the Gods'
In the light of new discoveries , in this presentation he discusses that and more.......


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Graham Hancock - Ancient Man and Our Mysterious Origins

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZheIkNiVKzY

Published on 14 Jan 2014
How is that scientists say we came from a hunter gatherer society, to almost
overnight, becoming a sophisticated culture with arts and writing. The ability to
build immense structures which, even by today's standards, are still magnificent.
Graham discusses his theory on the origins of man in this fantastic seminar.


Another link below if the U'tube is down....

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Graham Hancock Ancient Man and Our Mysterious Origins. How is that scientists
say we came from a hunter gatherer society, to almost overnight, becoming a
sophisticated culture with arts and writing. The ability to build immense structures
which, even by today's standards, are still magnificent. Graham discusses his
theory on the origins of man in this fantastic seminar.
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Read more: http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...#ixzz3D8222gNr


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Gobekli Tepe Roundtable: Andrew Collins, Brien Foerster, Hugh Newman - Capricorn Radio

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_tmFymwWY5s

Published on 6 Mar 2014


The Origins Of Civilization Tour Details
http://www.jamesswagger.com/tours-events
http://www.megalithomania.co.uk/tours...
Roundtable interview with Andrew Collins, Brien Foerster and Hugh Newman, discussing
Gobekli Tepe and the remarkable similarities with ancient Peru. Join them on a tour to
ancient Turkey May 26th - June 5th 2014. Click above for details.

Andrew Collins was raised in the Essex town of Wickford. As a teenager, he became a
UFO investigator, and in 1977 he investigated the first-ever missing time abduction case
reported in the UK, and that investigation changed his life. He became a journalist with
the magazine Strange Phenomena and openly sought the help of psychics in an attempt
to better understand the relationship between UFOs, prehistoric sites, earth energies,
and the human mind. As a science and history writer, he has authored a variety of
books that challenge the way we perceive the past, including his best-selling The
Cygnus Mystery, that delves into how ancient monuments and temples, that are still
standing today, were built with an orientation towards Cygnus. He continues to speak
and travel throughout the world and is currently working on a book about Gobekli Tepe.
He leaves near Marlborough, Wiltshire, in the UK.

http://andrewcollins.com/

Brien was born in Rochester, Minnesota, U.S.A. but grew up on the west coast of
Canada. At age 11, he became fascinated with the Native art of the Haida native people,
and began carving totem poles, and other related art forms, learning from Native
teachers. After completing an Honours Bachelor Of Science degree, Brien decided to
take up carving and sculpture full time, at the age of 25.

In 1995 he moved to Maui, Hawaii, and was hired as assistant project manager for the
building of the 62 foot double hull sailing canoe ( ancestor of the modern day
catamaran ) Mo'okiha O Pi'ilani ( Sacred Lizard That Pierces The Heavens ) and the
restoration of the famous Mo'olele sailing canoe. This project lasted 2 years.

There, having learned how to make Hawaiian outrigger canoe paddles from master
carver Keola Sequiera, he started an online outrigger paddle business, which flourished
internationally.

Peru became his next major area of interest. The study of the Inca culture led to
his writing a book, A Brief History Of The Incas which is available on this site, and is
now the assistant director of the Paracas History Museum in Paracas, south of Lima.
He is also assisting the municipality of Paracas to improve the number of foreign
tourists that visit, as well as is fundamental in expanding tourism in general,
especially as regards showing all visitors the 10,000 years of human occupation of
this area, through tours of major and minor archaeological sites.

http://hiddenincatours.com/

Hugh Newman is an author, conference organiser, world explorer, tour host, and
Megalithomaniac. As an author he has researched the Indigo child phenomenon and
published a book on the subject. His most recent book, Earth Grids has been
published by Wooden Books. He has released numerous DVDs of his multi-media
presentations (see below). He has articles published in The Leyhunter, Mindscape
Magazine, World Explorer Magazine, The Circular, The Spiral, The Heretic, New
Dawn (Australia) and numerous other publications. As well as organising the
Megalithomania conferences, he has spoken at events in the UK, Malta, France,
Peru, Egypt, Bosnia and North America. He has appeared on BBC TV, Sky Channel
200, Bosnian TV and the History Channel in the last three seasons of Ancient
Aliens. He is currently writing a book about the Wandlebury complex near Cambridge.

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[Cidersomerset]

Göbekli Tepe, Turkey, with Graham Hancock, Andrew Collins & Hugh Newman on the 'Origins' Tour

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E-Q9cviQcn0

Published on 10 Oct 2013


http://www.megalithomania.co.uk/origi... - Join Andrew Collins, Brien Foerster
and Hugh Newman at Gobekli Tepe and many other sites on a unique tour in
May/June 2014. This video was filmed and edited by Hugh Newman on the
'Origins of Civilization' tour organised by Megalithomania and Andrew Collins,
with special guest Graham Hancock. Gobekli Tepe is said to be up to 14,000
years old and could rewrite human history.


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Graham Hancock, Andrew Collins & Hugh Newman at Alaca Höyük, Turkey: 'Origins of Civilization Tour'

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=P1W8SklIvgQ

[Cidersomerset]

Göbekli Tepe - National Geographic Channel

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8JfbV21weQE

Published on 13 Jul 2013

The 12,000 Year Old City

[Cidersomerset]

Astralogical and Biblical connections.....



Gobekli Tepe: Gateway to the Stars - Andrew Collins Talk

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=H8qeFj6oRII

Published on 11 Oct 2013


Filmed at Steiner House Oct 10 2013 -
All copyrights reserved.
Pictures credits:

Andrew Collins, Harald Hauptmann/DAI, Rodney Hale, Michelle Rosney,
Storm Constantine, Robert Braidwood/Halet Çambel/Univ. of Istanbul/Univ.
of Chicago, Greg Little, Billie Walker John, Gaziantep Archaeological Museum,
Wiki Commons, Google Earth/DigitalGlobe

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Gobekli Tepe and the Watchers of Eden - Andrew Collins

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BxW9uU0r8jQ

Published on 16 Oct 2013


Suggested origins of some Biblical figures, Abraham and Noah,
and religion itself. Also is the realization that monuments appeared
before agriculture. Evolving into a neolithic revolution.

This is based on the Book of Enoch which comes from the Dead Sea
Scrolls which comes from an earlier book called the Book of Noah,
which becomes apparent in the question and answer session which
will be in another video uploaded here.
Check out the Questing conference in London November 16 at: http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/con...

[Cidersomerset]

This is interesting but as Andrew is asked at the end, where did the watchers
come from ? and he says he has got more to say on that but not here. These
vids are good but I think there is still a lot more going much further back.


Q and A Andrew Collins - The Watchers

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7cY48Cqy9-k

Published on 16 Oct 2013


After Andrew's talk some (Q) questions and (A) answers explain
more about the origins of the ideas from this earliest ritual site
Goblekli Tepe. With some comparison between early hunter
gatherers and modern capitalism. Andrew is an expert on
ancient history.

[Becky]

Thanks Cider for sourcing these videos - I look forward to watching them. I've always been fascinated with the history of humans and human civilization.
Becky x

[Snowflower]

Many hours of listening ahead, thanks Cider! Have the book Footprints of the Gods - part of my early awakening a decade ago and think Graham Hancock is one of the great thinkers of our age.

[mojo]

I concur with Becky... Steve, awesome ... Creating and sharing great threads on interesting subject matters...Gobekli Tepe is one more...

[steveofengland]

Great thread Thanks.

[Cidersomerset]

This was posted on another thread, which reminded me of the Lemurians.......

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8qdvAGesXdo

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What is interesting about Dr.Semir Osmagich is he is comparing the
statues to the early civilisation on Easter Island, which is something
I thought about but did not mention it on the Graham Hancock /Gobekli
tepe thread.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ble-march-2014

This is speculation but Bob & Ion talk about virtually every subject
you can thing of in their thousands of conversations both private
and public. Ion said that the Lemurians were responsible for the
Easter Island statues and they look like us but have more reptilian
DNA in them and are still amongst us today. ( this obviously makes
you think of David Icke and others) but Ion says they are not like
that and are just a parallel race living here in some ways superior
and others not so, that came here from Lemuria. Whether this is
true or not who knows ? but ithas intrigued me since they talked
about it........



Sunday, November 3, 2013

Lemurians | Lizard People ......and watchers in this segment below.







Payday


Listen

Bob Dobbs’ private session 267, 24 August 2010.

[Cidersomerset]

Best Hancock Interview -12,800 yrs ago comet hit polar icecap and wiped out advanced civilization

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JQbagWiQdKs

Published on 29 May 2014


Graham Hancock on Coast to Coast. We are descendants of an ancient advanced civilization.
One that would look totally foreign to us today...What source of power did they use? Were
they capable of space travel? Did they have longer life spans than us? Explore the intrigue
and evidence - RyGuyOttawa

[Billy]

I would like to share this excellent review of Graham Hancock's new book, War God.

Found here. http://dailygrail.com/Reviews/2014/7...ncocks-War-God

A Gnostic Vision of the Conquest: A Review of Graham Hancock's War God



[Before you read this book review, know that I not only intend to offer my opinion on the novel, but also explore the historical events of the Mexican Conquest in some depth. If you are a complete neophyte in the topic & want to enjoy Graham's War God without 'spoilers', then I suggest you close this link & open the Amazon page to order it instead, since my ultra-ultra short review is "I liked it, get the book" anyway --same goes for anyone daunted by the prospect of reading a 3000+-word-long essay, which will only reinforce your decision to buy War God. For the undecided (and the masochists) please enjoy]

Broken spears lie in the roads;
We have torn our hair in our grief
The houses are roofless now, and their walls
Are red with blood.

Worms are swarming in the streets and plazas,
And the walls are spattered with gore
The water has turned red, as if it were dyed
And when we drink it,
It has the taste of brine

We have pounded our hands in despair
Against the adobe walls,
For our inheritance, our city, is lost and dead
The shields of our warriors were its defense.
But they could not save it.

We have chewed dry twigs and salt grasses:
We have filled our mouths with dust and bits of adobe.
We have eaten lizards, rats and worms
When we had meat, we ate it almost raw.
[...]
Weep my people
Know that with these disasters
We have lost the Mexican nation
The water has turned bitter
Our food is bitter
These are the acts of the Giver of Life.

~From the book The Broken Spears, chapter XV

As a literary fan, I honestly don't know which would be harder: To write a completely fictional story, or a fictionalized account of a true historical event. The open-ended freedom of pure fiction could turn into a double-edged sword in the hands of an inexperienced writer; whereas with fictionalized events, you wouldn't be allowed to surprise the reader by deviating too much from what was actually recorded in the History books – unless you're Quentin Tarantino, that is.

Which is why I was very interested in reading Graham Hancock's War God, his first non-fiction (‘first non-fiction-based novel’, or ‘second fiction novel’?) book & a novelized exploration of an event I probably know better than most: The Spanish Conquest of Mexico in the 16th century.

The reason I can unashamedly state the above is simple: As a Mexican, I have been familiar with the bloody events pertaining to the clash of the Old World & the New since elementary school: as kids we were taught of the arrival of the Spanish Conquistadors to the shores of Veracruz; how their leader Hernán Cortés took full advantage of their technological superiority, endowing a small force of Spanish soldiers equipped with cannons and arquebuses the power to defeat armies ten or 20 times more numerous; and how he eventually imprisoned Emperor Moctezuma and enslaved the people of Mexico, all thanks to the treacherous collaboration of La Malinche, the native woman that acted as his translator & advisor – which is why to this day 'malinchismo' is used as an insult to depict someone who refuses their Mexican heritage in favor of foreign values (no doubt many could accuse me of being a malinchista, seeing how 99% of what I write is in English).

But the thing is that as you grow older, it becomes clear how what was taught to you in grade school is only one version of the Conquest; one devised as a nationalistic propaganda, in order to infuse a sense of pride for our ancient roots – 'our glorious past' as it were – in the minds of young Mexicans. And as with all propaganda, that version is rather biased...

Later in life, if your initial curiosity doesn't get quelled by the dryness of official curricula – and their annoying insistence to memorize dates & geographic locations – you end up realizing that propaganda is as old as History itself. Indeed, perhaps most of the greatest historical monuments were erected as a way to promote the great deeds and virtues of some ancient king or queen, while conveniently white-washing their failures & defects.

With the Conquest of Mexico it was no different. From the beginning Cortés sought to sugarcoat his actions before emperor Charles V – while at the same time secure his legal status as legitimate conqueror of 'the New Spain' – through the Cartas de Relación. Letters he himself wrote and sent to the king, in which he gives his personal interpretation of all the events and circumstances surrounding the fall of the Aztec empire; it doesn't take a History degree to presume the missives paint a rather subjective version of the facts, like for example the reasons Cortés provides to justify his insurrection from Diego de Velázquez, the governor of Cuba who had initially organized the expedition to the new lands.

A much more objective account was provided by Bernal Díaz del Castillo, one of Cortés's soldiers who later in life wrote his memories of the Conquest. Bernal was a first-hand witness in the fall of Tenochtitlán, the 'floating' capital of the Aztecs, which he judged to be as beautiful & organized as any city in Europe.

During the morning, we arrived at a broad causeway and continued our march towards Iztapalapa, and when we saw so many cities and villages built in the water and other great towns on dry land and that straight and level Causeway going towards Mexico, we were amazed and said that it was like the enchantments they tell of in the legend of Amadis, on account of the great towers and temples and buildings rising from the water, and all built of masonry. And some of our soldiers asked whether the things that we saw were not a dream.

But in this epic clash of civilizations, what of the fallen? Those 'heathen barbarians' Cortés and his men came to save with the cross in one hand and the sword in the other? In 1959 the book The Broken Spears was published (Spanish title: Visión de los Vencidos), which is a compendium of original native chronicles of the Conquest, gathered and translated by the anthropologist Miguel León Portilla (1926 -). In these texts the reader can not only find the point of view of the conquered Aztecs and the stupor caused by the irruption of the 'white gods' into their world, but also a faint glimpse of all the 'bad omens' preceding the arrival of the Spanish fleet – strange lights observed in the heavens, and the appearance of a comet in the night sky – which had a great deal of influence in the impressionable mind of emperor Moctezuma, convincing him that the old prophecies had been fulfilled, and the legendary god Quetzalcóatl had finally returned as it was long foretold – a mistake that cost him his kingdom… and his life.



It is almost as if a string of weird circumstances all conspired to create the 'perfect storm', which brought down the empire controlling most of Mesoamerica. And HERE is where Graham's book offers a unique interpretation of this fascinating moment in History.

The best way to describe War God is that it is a Gnostic novel – a label I'm sure he'd rather appreciate, since it follows his own personal philosophy. At the risk of offending scholars & theologians alike with my crude summary, the main gist of the Gnostic cosmovision can be boiled down into 2 basic notions:

What we call 'Reality' is nothing but a veil preventing us from perceiving the true nature of the world.
That veil was put before our eyes by entities seeking to manipulate us, for their own devious purposes.
In the case of War God, that deceiving entity is Huitzilopochtli: the highest deity in the Aztec pantheon, and the one they believed led their people on their pilgrimage from the mythic region of Aztlán, to the little island in the Texcoco lake where they founded Tenochtitlán in 1325. In Graham's novel he portrays the god as a demonic being – or a 'demiurge', in the proper Gnostic lingo – using Moctezuma as a puppet who subserviently tends to its insatiable hunger for blood and human hearts; but the demon also manipulates Cortés, to whom he appears as the figure of St. Peter in his dreams, filling his head with promises of glory and endless riches.



The true meaning of the Náhuatl name of the War God is a matter of some debate among scholars; some translate it as "left-handed hummingbird" or "southern hummingbird", but the fact that the Aztecs linked their hungry god of war with a cute little bird, has always fascinated me due to its apparent incongruency. Lately I've been thinking however, that perhaps the key in the name of the word lies in the humming caused by the quick flapping of the wings of these tiny creatures.

Is there some connection between the god Huitzilopochtli, and the buzzing sound that is so characteristic in 'paranormal encounters', as related by our own Greg Taylor in his Darklore essay “Her Sweet Murmur”? And then what of other ancient deities adored in other regions of the world? I often think of how Baal, the god of the Canaanites, was later transformed into a demon by the Hebrews after they finished invading the Holy Land, and given the mocking appelative of Beelzebub, which is often translated as 'the lord of flies' – buzzing yet again… maybe Graham is onto something…

Since I've mentioned the Hebrews, I'd also like to point out some interesting parallelisms between them and the Aztecs: Not only did both cultures view themselves as 'the chosen people', and had their own Exodus story in search of 'the promised land', as we have already stated – 40 years with the Hebrews, 261 years with the Aztecs but the legends of their pilgrimage are rather similar; according to friar Bernardino de Sahagún, a priest or leader among the Aztecs named Mezitli or Mexitli was the only one who would 'speak' with Huitzilopochtli, the same way Moses would get in contact with Yahweh. Other chronicles report that Huitzilopochtli was an actual warlord who led the Aztecs out of Aztlán; as with many aspects of ancient Mexican history, there are huge gaps in the records causing a lot of confusion… gaps, one should point out, caused by the burning of the old codexes at the hands of Sahagún's colleagues during the 'Autos de Fé'...

This review has much more. continue reading here.
http://dailygrail.com/Reviews/2014/7...ncocks-War-God

peace

[Delight]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
Best Hancock Interview -12,800 yrs ago comet hit polar icecap and wiped out advanced civilization

........ We are descendants of an ancient advanced civilization.
One that would look totally foreign to us today...What source of power did they use? Were
they capable of space travel? Did they have longer life spans than us? Explore the intrigue
and evidence - RyGuyOttawa

This interview is really complementary from one of Graham Hancock's colleagues Brian Foerster in Septemer 2013.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=roX__kFKUjo

[Agape]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
This is interesting but as Andrew is asked at the end, where did the watchers
come from ? and he says he has got more to say on that but not here. These
vids are good but I think there is still a lot more going much further back.

They are good and 'on the track' so to say, following what I think it's obvious and what the mainstream archeologists so blatantly miss ..presence of aesthetically and spiritually advanced civilisations as far to human history as any one can see .
However, who and what these civilisations were , their social structure and biological origin .. tends to confuse the 'big picture' ,

there I think ..they are missing the truth and will be missing it for quite some time yet because this 'alternative science scene' and it's leading theory is based on what Erich von Daniken established as the 'ancient astronauts theory' ,
or what Lloyd Pye called the 'intervention theory' ,

and they don't seem either ready or able to accept more truth .


Ironically ...and for quite some time yet .. and further we go along the path of ancient human history ... there may be no 'proofs' , no solid technological proofs of any sort,
all there may be found here are remains of highly advanced human civilisations with icons, legends , parallels drawn to preserve the idea that some of their ancestors - to put it that way - came from Stars .

So from all the things that change and are prone to evolution and destruction by human society , this is obviously one of the most crucial pieces of memory turned to legend ..that is being preserved carefully .

Yet ... historically ... and archeologically taken .... speaking of recent 10 000 or 30 000 years and quoting the last ice age means speaking of this 'recent version of mankind' ,
consisting of diverse ethnical groups quite as it does today ,
but technically , the same mankind .


Would the same people be able to relate to our true origins .. beyond this 'intervention theory' , I have no idea .

[Cidersomerset]

I agree Agape there is much more. From what we are told by many sources from
channelled entities, ET's and our own gut feeling , Humans have been around for
millions of years throughout the universe and on Earth. Can I prove it no , but it
just feels right imo....


Then the Ion material with Bob Dobbs in their crazy reality comes up with all
sort on info. We are all eternal 'gods' and the universe is like a wire whisk,
constantly in a loop. No time just one gigantic now , we have created everything
from the vibrational frequency of the word, also thought canplay a part as in the
3,2,1 of creation.But this is changing all the timeas we come back to our power and
realise how pwerfull we are.


Thoth the Atlantean wrote the Emerald Tablets in the future as Atlantis has not
happened yet. He deposited them in our past aprox 33, 000 years ago , and these
have formed the basis of most of the major and minor religions of the world.
But since we are experiencing a massive no time loop, Atlantis exists in our
past and future simultaneously. Then if you want add portaling and time shifting
you could go there now , like us coming back from the future being mistaken
for ET's...LOL

http://ionandbob.blogspot.co.uk/2013...explained.html

A lot of the ET's reported are us from the future , coming and going as there is not
time and this reality is a recoreding for ever playing , changing the tune as it goes
along.There are ET's and other humanoids on earth like the reptilian Lemurians that
externally look the same , but are different in nature and attitude to us.There are
Vampires over 200,000 in LA and all sorts of anomalies are discussed like
portals,Star gates , astral projectionand everything on here. But Bob and Ion
especially on the shows have their own frequency and many find them hard to
comprehend as they are often contradicting information and themselves,deliberately
sometimes. As Ion says because we are the 'gods' creating our individual reality
that overlap into each other,we are constantl changing the universe,and in fact
everything we can think of or have done has occurred many times before and will
again in this massive 'no time' loop....

Now if Bob and Ion read this they would correct this and that and may add more .
Whether any of it is true who knows ? Although according to them we are living in a
era where the 5 bodies has created the atmosphere for those who want , to re
ascend back to our full power , this time keeping our human form and although
living as ascended beings in 'bliss' it gets boring after eons as you can only
create in physical and is why some of us descended in the first place. You can
manifest in the non physical form and its great for some gods. But its more fun
for other gods to feel the sences experienced in a meatsack boy.....

Theres loads more , but in the end it comes down to our own individual
beliefs.Because as gods we can decide what we want and whether we come back or
not....

[Delight]

Wanted to share some IMO interesting sites....

Here are pictures from Astlantas (INTERESTING name) Turkey. A Phrygian tomb. Lions on either side of the tree of life. Looks like the style of bas relief Gobekli Tepe to me. It is considered Phrygian





Just FYI, there is a youtube channel where one can see pictures of megalithic remains not usually referenced. Vlad9vt is the channel name. Here is a recent post about
The ancient megaliths of Israel, Turkey(Aslantas) and Middle East area.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_K8TIbYWO58

Here I found an interesting site talking about the underground megalithic sites in Israel....

Who constructed the underground-terrestrial megalithic complex of Israel and when was it constructed?

Hasmonean tunnel on the Temple Mount, Jerusalem, Israel


Bell cave in Luzit, Israel.

[Cidersomerset]

10 September 2014 Last updated at 01:40
Stonehenge secrets revealed by underground mapBy Maria Dasi Espuig

Science reporter, Birmingham




Archaeologists have unveiled the most detailed map ever produced of the earth beneath
Stonehenge and its surrounds.

They combined different instruments to scan the area to a depth of three metres, with
unprecedented resolution.

Early results suggest that the iconic monument did not stand alone, but was accompanied
by 17 neighbouring shrines.

Future, detailed analysis of this vast collection of data will produce a brand new account of
how Stonehenge's landscape evolved over time.

Among the surprises yielded by the research are traces of up to 60 huge stones or pillars
which formed part of the 1.5km-wide "super henge" previously identified at nearby Durrington Walls.

"For the past four years we have been looking at this amazing monument to try and see
what was around it," Prof Vincent Gaffney, from the University of Birmingham, said at
the British Science Festival.

The research is also described in BBC Two documentary to be screened on Thursday.

"What was within its landscape?"

Most of the land surrounding Stonehenge had not been surveyed in this manner before and
Prof Gaffney, the project's lead researcher, said one key question always remained: "Was
it really an excluded place, where only special people would come?"

The team's new three-dimensional map, which covers an area of 12 sq km or 1,250
football fields, shows that this was not the case.



Stonehenge scanning The team combined different instruments to scan the area with unprecedented resolution
Researchers used six different techniques to scan the whole site at different depths below the surface.

Amongst their instruments was a magnetometer, a ground-penetrating radar (GPR) and a 3D laser scanner.

Nishad Karim, a researcher at the University of Leicester, has used similar instrumentation
to reconstruct 16th century Tudor tombs.

She told the BBC: "Using GPR and other techniques, these researchers have been able to virtually
see through the ground and explore what civilization looked like thousands of years ago."

Under one of the numerous mounds, they identified a 33m-long timber building about 6,000 years old,
probably used for ritual burials and related practices, possibly including excarnation (stripping flesh from bones).

"[The building] has three rows of roof-bearing posts. It is around 300 square metres and slightly
trapezoidal, which is interesting because in the same period on the continent, about 100 to 200
years earlier, we also find this type of trapezoidal building related to megaliths [giant stones],"
said Prof Wolfgang Neubauer, director of the Ludwig Boltzmann Institute, which was also involved
in the research.

Another 17 mounds revealed previously unseen ritual monuments about the same age as Stonehenge itself.



Timber building A number of other nearby sites were associated with the henge, such as this longbarrow
New monuments



The dating was done based on their shape. "We know what some of these things look like, so we
can classify them," Prof Gaffney explained.

A first inspection of the Cursus and the Durrington Walls, located north and north-east of Stonehenge,
also revealed new insights.

The work unveiled two additional pits inside the prehistoric Cursus, an enormous, elongated circular
trench originally named because it reminded its discoverers of a Roman racing track.

The Cursus is aligned in the East-West direction, and the pits were found one in each end, pointing
to Dusk and Dawn.

This particular alignment is closely related to the position and orientation of Stonehenge, which was
built as we know it some 300 to 500 years later.

The large separation in time indicates that both monuments were not conceived or planned as a whole.
"The structures guide the builders. Once you have some things in place, other things happen because
those already exist," explained Prof Gaffney.

He and his team also found evidence of huge stones or timber posts lying three metres below the
mounds that form the Durrington Walls.

"[These solid blocks] completely redefine the development of the Durrington Walls," he told the BBC.



Stonehenge monuments Techniques used by the team allowed them to "see" through the ground to
uncover new ancient monuments
All of these preliminary findings reflect the complexity of the landscape's history and evolution, which
will be slowly uncovered once the researchers start the in-depth analysis of the data.



That analysis will reveal more precisely how the site evolved through the ages.

"We are starting to see the growth of fields encroaching on it. That's important because it tells us
about changing relationships to Stonehenge," Prof Gaffney said.

"Eventually, we start to see the living returning, bringing agriculture. It becomes more the archaeology
of the mundane, rather than the arcane."

Dr Nick Snashall, National Trust Archaeologist for the Avebury and Stonehenge World Heritage Site,
said: "Using 21st-century techniques, the Stonehenge Hidden Landscapes team has transformed our
knowledge of this ancient, precious and very special landscape.

"Their work has revealed a clutch of previously unsuspected sites and monuments showing how much
of the story of this world-famous archaeological treasure house remains to be told."

Operation Stonehenge: What Lies Beneath is shown on BBC Two at 2000 on Thursday 11 September.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29126854

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Stonehenge secrets revealed by underground map

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TXKttEl49L0

Published on 10 Sep 2014


Stonehenge secrets revealed by underground map

Archaeologists have unveiled the most detailed map ever produced of the earth
beneath Stonehenge and its surrounds.They combined different instruments to
scan the area to a depth of three metres, with unprecedented resolution.

Early results suggest that the iconic monument did not stand alone, but was
accompanied by 17 neighbouring shrines.Future, detailed analysis of this vast
collection of data will produce a brand new account of how Stonehenge's
landscape evolved over time.

Among the surprises yielded by the research are traces of up to 60 huge stones
or pillars which formed part of the 1.5km wide "super henge" previously identified
at nearby Durrington Walls.
"For the past four years we have been looking at this amazing monument to try
and see what was around it," Prof Vincent Gaffney, from the University of
Birmingham, said at the British Science Festival.

Most of the land surrounding Stonehenge had not been surveyed in this manner
before and Prof Gaffney, the project's lead researcher, said one key question always
remained: "Was it really an excluded place, where only special people would come?"

The team's new three dimensional map, which covers an area of 12 square km or
1250 football fields, shows that this was not the case.Researchers used six different
techniques to scan the whole site at different depths below the surface.

Amongst their instruments was a magnetometer, a ground penetrating radar and
a 3D laser scanner.Nishad Karim, a researcher at the University of Leicester, has
used similar instrumentation to reconstruct 16th century Tudor tombs.

She told the BBC: "Using ground penetrating radar and other techniques, these
researchers have been able to virtually see through the ground and explore what
civilization looked like thousands of years ago."Under one of the numerous mounds,
they identified a 33m long timber building about 6000 years old, probably used for
ritual burials and related practices, possibly including excarnation stripping flesh from bones.

The building has three rows of roof bearing posts. It is around 300 square metres
and slightly trapezoidal, which is interesting because in the same period on the
continent, about 100 to 200 years earlier, we also find this type of trapezoidal building
related to megaliths giant stones said Prof Wolfgang Neubauer, director of the Ludwig
Boltzmann Institute, which was also involved in the research.

Another 17 mounds revealed previously unseen ritual monuments about the same age as Stonehenge itself.

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In this article the reporter says they have found structures from 10.000 yrs ago

This is significant I cannot remember mainstream going back that far, with
Gobeki Tepi and other sites around the world being dated earlier than before.
We are not far off the Aprox 12,000 years Graham Hancock and others have been
talking about a lost civilisation at the end of the last ice age....


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BBC News - Hidden complex of monuments found at Stonehenge site

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pBfLOt7Lphk

Published on 10 Sep 2014


Scientists have discovered a hidden complex of archaeological monuments at
Stonehenge, challenging the modern impression that it stood in isolation.

They found the previously unknown structures when they scanned a wide area
around the site, to a depth of ten feet.

They also discovered evidence of up to 60 huge pillars within the mile-wide site at
nearby Durrington Walls, and a wooden burial house 3,000 years older than
Stonehenge.

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New Evidence Lost Civilizations Really Existed

new Friday 12th September 2014 at 07:57 By david-icke




New Evidence Lost Civilizations Really Existed





‘What if everything you’ve been taught about the origins of civilization is wrong?
Be it that certain pieces of our history have been intentionally hidden, or that we
have yet to discover and realize the true story of our past, new archaeological and
geological discoveries are revealing that sophisticated civilizations have likely
existed in prehistoric times.’

Until recently, the archaeological community has spread the view that the
beginnings of human civilization started after the last Ice Age, which ended around
9,600 BC. All human ancestors prior to this time were recognized as primitive,
uncivilized hunter-gatherers who were incapable of communal organization and
architectural design. It was only after the Ice Age, when huge 2-mile deep ice caps
that covered much of Europe and North America melted, that our human ancestors
started to develop and perfect agriculture, forming more-complex economic and
social structures around 4000 BC. Archaeologists believed that first cities started
around 3500 BC in Mesopotamia and, shortly after, in Egypt. On the European
continent, the oldest megalithic sites are dated around 3,000 BC, and the popular
Stonehenge is dated between 2,400 BC and 1,800 BC.

This is the established chronology being taught in schools and believed by modern
society. Prehistoric societies such as Atlantis have been declared myth.


Read more...

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/09/1...tions-existed/