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    Default If it is war they want, it is war they shall have ... in the Middle East

    I sense that the Obama administration (or whomever is controlling it) is going to get the war that they have been seeking so long in the Middle East, a more major war rather than the bubbling violence of the last few years.

    The Sunni "terrorist" group ISIS that has been threatening Syria has now spilled over into neighboring Iraq, overrunning Iraq military positions and picking up thousands of anti-tank and anti-plane missiles and other armaments abandoned by the fleeing Iraq military. This is equipment that the US provided Iraq, now being taken by "terrorists" also (albeit covertly) funded by the US. The effort to arm the "terrorists" who would drive Assad from power in Syria, that was exposed with the murder of Ambassador Stevens in Benghazi, Libya in September of 2012, has taken a major step forward.

    It is likely no accident that the Western name for this "terrorist" group is ISIS, one of the top ancient Egyptian goddesses, and mother of Horus, their god of War. ISIS supposedly stands for the "Islamic State of Iraq and Syria", but the ancient Egyptian connection is more persuasive to me. Ancient Egyptian symbolism, such as the pyramid symbol on the US One Dollar Bill and the three obelisks in Washington DC (Washington Monument, at the opposite end of the reflecting pool from the Whitehouse), Vatican City (prominent in the center of the main court) and just outside the City in London (Cleopatra's Needle on the river Thames) are understood to be symbols from ancient Egypt. The obelisk is a symbol of Osiris's dismembered penis that Isis (wife of Osiris) searched for, and Cleopatra's Needle was actually an ancient Egyptian obelisk imported to London.

    What I call the bastards in power have long had a "thing" for ancient Egyptian symbolism, likely dating back to long before Egypt's rise to power, in the ancient Sumerian civilization, where the goddess Ishtar is thought to have been the Sumerian equivalent. More recently, the Christian Mary and Jesus (mother and son) are taken to be analogs of Isis and Horus, as made legend by the Holy Roman Empire in about 400 AD, after they usurped the early Christian religion. The name chosen by the new leader of the ISIS "terrorists" is Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, where "Abu Bakr" was also the name of the founder of the Sunni branch of Islam, the more wide spread branch, that is in opposition to the Shiite branch that dominates Iran and southern Iraq.

    The US has begun partial evacuations of their embassy in Baghdad (the largest US embassy complex in the world), in anticipation that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi will justify his chosen last name by over-running Baghdad itself.

    The naming, symbolism, terrorist fear inducing blood lust, substantial (billions of dollars) funding and now dramatically increased arming of the ISIS terrorists is likely all the flammable ingredients required to start a major war in the Middle East. A generation of hell rained down from the skies and knocking down doors in the middle of the night has provided an ample supply of angry young men, with no better prospects than to head off to war and die for some cause.

    Previous efforts, such as the gassing by the terrorists of Syrian civilians, blamed on Assad, were not successful in starting a major conflict, thanks in good part to the efforts of the Russians to expose the lies and to present a balance of power to the West.

    Perhaps Putin has a way to stop this latest flammable mix from exploding; but I'll be danged if I can see how he can do that.

    Many will die, and many more become homeless, wounded, imprisoned, or maimed. The US has been fuelling war in and around Iraq since US ambassador April Glaspie gave Saddam the green light to invade Kuwait in 1990, only for the first US Bush administration to use that invasion as an excuse for the first Gulf War and subsequent sanctions against Iraq and no fly zones over Iraq. Well, actually, before that, when the US supported Saddam Hussein's bloody invasion of Iran from 1980 to 1988, in response to the 1979 Iranian revolution led by Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, overthrowing the Shah of Iran. Earlier, in 1953, the CIA sponsored the Shah of Iran's overthrow of Iran's Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh.

    Western violent meddling in the affairs of the Middle East has been going on for a long time. Ask a Turk with a knowledge of history what happened to the Ottoman Empire, which lasted from 1299 until 1922, when the British Empire destroyed it.

    Supplies of petroleum from the Middle East, and natural gas flowing through pipelines in the Middle East, will become increasingly unreliable. The price of petro will be erratically higher, and the impact on Western economies depending on those energy supplies increasingly negative.

    Iran, the nation with the largest Shiite population, is now being pulled into southern Iraq, to fight the ISIS "terrorists". The likelihood of the great war between Iran and Israel, leading to the destruction of the Jewish and Muslim temples on the Mount, and the return of the Mount to the Holy Roman Church, aka Catholic church, aka the Vatican, seems a step more likely today.

    I put the word "terrorists" in quotes, because they are, like their counter-parties in various Western and Middle East governments, agents of the bastards in power ... red team versus blue team, bought and paid for with the finest weapons and propaganda that money can buy.

    This latest reincarnation of ISIS will indeed be the mother of war, just as was the ancient Egyptian goddess.
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    Default Re: If it is war they want, it is war they shall have ... in the Middle East

    It is hard to believe the US is taking this ISIS tact when they are so over-extended in other countries creating and waging "civil wars." Like Americans are never going to see the patterns and somehow reel in their own government at some point? It is interesting in a macabre way to watch all these US paid and equipped (terrorist) jackals running amok in so many places ~ doing US bidding. One needs a scorecard.

    Reminds me of Disney's "Sorcerers Apprentice" with the buckets of water materializing only instead of water, it's endless wars being created out of whole cloth. So tiresome. How about "Little Black Sambo" (sorry not PC) who just ran and ran and ran in a circle until he melted and was no more.

    Well, one can hope, can't they? We are watching our government and the MIC (Military Industrial Complex) do just that. Try not to step into the puddle that's left when all this nonsense settles down. It's going to happen a lot sooner than most people expect. Very thought provoking piece, Paul. Thanks for sharing...‎

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    Exclamation Re: If it is war they want, it is war they shall have ... in the Middle East

    will share this here ...

    He's Out Of Control

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    Default Re: If it is war they want, it is war they shall have ... in the Middle East

    I don't know, somehow all those terrorists on TV look shabby in such an identical way that I can't but be suspicious they have their own make up artist.

    Someone said it and I agree, if you put out TV, you will not see.

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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)

    The Sunni "terrorist" group ISIS that has been threatening Syria has now spilled over into neighboring Iraq, overrunning Iraq military positions and picking up thousands of anti-tank and anti-plane missiles and other armaments abandoned by the fleeing Iraq military. This is equipment that the US provided Iraq, now being taken by "terrorists" also (albeit covertly) funded by the US. The effort to arm the "terrorists" who would drive Assad from power in Syria, that was exposed with the murder of Ambassador Stevens in Benghazi, Libya in September of 2012, has taken a major step forward.

    It seems that the story of 3 divisions of deserting troops fleeing makes more sense given this reality.Quite a coup for the ones behind the ''terror brigades''.An amalgamation of the a move i suspect was planned for this time if Bashar Al Assad had been taken from power ''on time'' 18 months ago and Plan B which seems now to get there hands on American high tech weaponry that the administration has been hesitant to hand over,at least publicly and in significant quantities

    In saying that it seems(to me at least) that to skip a move ahead in a game whilst not finishing the first is akin to desperation or maybe somewhat like how a cornered Dog might act.Dangerously.

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    Default Re: If it is war they want, it is war they shall have ... in the Middle East

    Quote Plan B which seems now to get there hands on American high tech weaponry that the administration has been hesitant to hand over,at least publicly and in significant quantities
    Bingo !

    While cleverly drawing Iran into the fray

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    and i suspect the U.S. will be following suit ...



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    Default Re: If it is war they want, it is war they shall have ... in the Middle East

    ... also rather "interesting" timing with Russia allegedly shutting off the natural gas to Ukraine (potentially at some point making it hard on some of the EU countries as well.

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    Question Re: If it is war they want, it is war they shall have ... in the Middle East

    Quote Posted by Calz (here)
    ... also rather "interesting" timing with Russia allegedly shutting off the natural gas to Ukraine (potentially at some point making it hard on some of the EU countries as well.
    Yes ... Along with the tensions growing in Southeast Asia ...

    It's like setting the world (population) up for (to) a controlled explosion

    Something is amuk ?

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    Default Re: If it is war they want, it is war they shall have ... in the Middle East

    Things appear to be hotting up in a not very nice way. Part of me is sick to the core, another part says "bring it on" - I've long held that we stand no real chance of progressing unless all the repressed hatred and anger is brought out from under the metaphorical carpet.

    One question, to the people who believe the MSM (not that any of them are reading this); WHY would a group of Syrian/Iragi "terrorists" give themselves a nice catchy little name in English, whose initial letters provide an equally catchy acronym. In English ?

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    This is another twist in the road on a long road that ends in a bad & good way one day. I’m a positive soul but sorry it will not end well on many levels of “realities” for many focused on this realm only. Is there a powerful group of humans or even “Aliens” controlling “All” the events as often put forward, “NO”! Are there "groups" trying to direct events to goals they have mostly for self benefit issues and they roll with the punches and try to adapt their self centered strategies as things develop for events both created and even unforeseen? Hell yes! Do they know the outcomes definitely? NO again! I follow the Middle East intently due to interests that I have there and yes, it will not end good… some day!. Is this that day? My answer is that it is not likely now. Will horrible unfair things happen, Most important…be right with yourself and if you choose to believe… with your ultimate Maker as well at all times. It is good policy and it makes for a far better life day to day. Good luck! What a long challenging and strange trip we are all on. But, we can find strength. We were never left on our own.

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    Andre Vltchek is a novelist, filmmaker and investigative journalist. He has covered wars and conflicts in dozens of countries.
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    Published time: June 09, 2014 13:32

    U.S. President Barack Obama speaks at the commencement ceremony at the United States Military Academy at West Point, New York, May 28, 2014. (Reuters/Kevin Lamarque)

    The anti-Chinese and anti-Russian propaganda howl is reaching a deafening crescendo, especially in Asia.

    Western media outlets are in high gear, spreading propaganda through their own outlets and their local media affiliates in the client states, mostly owned by big business. China and Russia are now vilified, openly insulted, and blamed for the escalation of tension in the Asia-Pacific region, and for the military build up. The entire mighty Western propaganda machine is now at work, demonizing China, Russia and other independent countries.

    Politicians are parading, one after another, in front of television cameras, pledging allegiance to capitalism, the Western-style regime or simply put, to the Empire. All these derogatory and inflammatory speeches against their ‘enemies’ are embarrassing, but they are becoming the norm.

    Many are warning that this can lead to a world war, that the West has lost all restraint and is ready to bathe the planet in blood, once again. A quarter of century ago it appeared that with the destruction of the Eastern block and with China then increasingly on a capitalist course, the West had finally got what it had fought for centuries for – the total and absolute control of the planet.

    But something went "wrong" for the West. Latin America rose and most of it gained freedom, then spat on the Monroe Doctrine. China began pushing for socialist reforms in medical care, education, culture and many other spheres. And Russia refused to get bullied and humiliated, reminding both Europe and North America that it will not be stepped on as happened in the era of Gorbachev and Yeltsin.

    The dream of unopposed rule over the world is beginning to disappear into thin air. Is the West going to risk the destruction of our planet simply because it cannot own it?
    Whose order?

    “Stephen Harper attacks Vladimir Putin and 'evil' communism,” reported Canada's CBC News on 31 May 2014, in reference to the “lengthy keynote speech” at a fundraising event that the right-wing Canadian PM gave in Toronto. The speech was spiced with “language reminiscent of the height of the Cold War.”

    Grotesquely, the President of the most aggressive country on Earth, the United States, Barack Obama, was promising to ‘curb the aggression’ of Russia and China, two countries that have not invaded anywhere in the last few decades.

    In a speech clearly aimed at provoking China, the US Defense secretary Chuck Hagel, spoke more like a thug than a politician: “The United States will not look the other way when fundamental principles of the international order are being challenged.”

    "Which order?" Some would ask. Was he talking about the order that is being imposed on the world from Washington and European capitals and has been for centuries, at the cost of hundreds of millions of human lives? Quite an order!

    Christopher Black, a leading international criminal lawyer based in Toronto, provided an analysis for this report:

    "The speech made by President Obama at West Point, that the fulcrum of American policy will be to curb the "aggression" of Russia and China immediately followed by his Defense Secretary Hagel in Singapore accusing China of destabilization in the South China Sea, rightly characterized by Lt. General Wang Guanzhong as "threats and intimidation", expresses the clear intent of the United States to wage war in all its aspects against the two most powerful nations that dare to develop independently of American domination.


    U.S. President Barack Obama arrives for the commencement ceremony at the United States Military Academy at West Point, New York, May 28, 2014. (Reuters/Kevin Lamarque)

    The United States has attacked China several times since World War II, first in the Korean War, followed by decades of attempted sabotage and isolation and then by the NATO bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade in 1999. It now has continued that pressure by trying to destabilize China internally through various mechanisms of infiltration of "human rights" groups into Chinese society and within China's military and administrative mechanisms and a constant propaganda campaign to defame China and its people around the world. The momentum of this strategy has been stepped up with the recent attacks by fanatical Muslim groups from western China against Chinese civilians in key cities and transportation hubs and use of provocateurs to attack Chinese interests in Vietnam, Thailand, the Philippines and Africa and the recent absurd charges against Chinese military officers for cyber attacks.

    The recent events in Ukraine show that the pace of this aggression is accelerating as America attempts to complete the encirclement of Russia and China by advancing NATO to Russia's borders and by repositioning of 60 per cent of US military assets to the Pacific.”

    But now the true aggressors are blaming the victims for "aggression". And it is nothing new under the sun. Nazi Germany and its propagandists employed the same "logic"’ and arguments, before and during WWII. And the French used it in Algiers and their other colonies.
    Local servility

    In Asia, on a local level, the servile press in countries like the Philippines is taking orders and often surpasses its handlers in the West by its zeal.

    On May 25th 2014, The Philippine Star began with lashing out at China, continued by quoting the words of Admiral William Locklear III, the commander of US Pacific forces, that “Russia has its own ‘pivot’ in Asia”. Then the newspaper finally produced a few pieces of "brilliant"’ analyses: “Official sources said Russia’s incursion into Ukraine has raised concern in Washington that China may try something similar in staking its territorial claims, in the guise of protecting its citizens overseas.”

    ‘Russian incursion into Ukraine?’ That sounds more like propaganda shouting from the pages of the North American or European daily press. In some 15 years of work in the region, after interacting with hundreds of media people from all over Southeast Asia, I have to testify that such a thought as quoted above, could never have come from a local journalist. Here, knowledge about Eastern Europe is very near absolute zero. Someone else wrote it.

    Most of the local Philippine press generally concluded that the US has basically no choice but to expand militarily, because of "China’s aggressive moves."Almost all the newspapers mentioned the high cost of the permanent US military bases in the region, also arguing that "spokes"’, bases belonging to local countries but wide open for use by US forces, are the real way forward. Such bases would also be located on Australian and Japanese territory, and possibly in Singapore and Thailand, as well as Malaysia.


    A Ukrainian soldier aims his rifle at an army checkpoint during a referendum on self-rule in the southeastern port city of Mariupol, May 11, 2014. (Reuters)

    The mainstream Philippine media is not even bothering to question such a military agreement, which is in direct violation of the nation’s Constitution.

    Eduardo Tadem, Professor of Asian Studies at the University of Philippines, explained, during our recent conversation in Manila:

    “The recently signed agreement between the Philippines and the United States is called EDCA (Economic Defense Cooperation Agreement). In this agreement the Philippine government offered virtually all the military bases in the Philippines total access for American soldiers, for a ten-year period. But who knows for how long, really… This is very dangerous, because all military installations of the country are now open for ‘entry’ of the US forces. And this certainly goes against the Philippine Constitution, which bars the establishment of foreign bases on our territory.”

    Then what really happened? Why the sudden change?

    “It has to do with certain factors,” Tadem explains. “One, of course, is the factor of the so-called ‘US pivot’ to Asia. Under Obama there is this strategy of ‘pivoting to Asia’. Second has to do with the so-called Trans-Pacific partnership proposal of the United States; to build some sort of integrated market in the Asia Pacific region. Except that the Philippines is not part of it for now… The third one has to do with the territorial disputes that are taking place in this region, both in the South China Sea and the North China Sea.”

    China. Tadem continues:

    “It is mainly an issue of nationalism. And it is also because here they were always asking for more assistance, including military assistance. And this is the way to get that assistance. Also remember that Philippine presidents were consistently supportive of the US. You probably saw the survey that shows that the Philippine people love the United States more than Americans love themselves. So for the Americans it is easy to get support for their China policy here.”

    I asked both Teresa Tadem, Professor of Political Science at the University of Philippines, and Professor Eduard Tadem, how was it possible that a country, the Philippines, that suffered so severely during its occupation by the United States, during the colonial era, feels so positive towards its former brutal colonizer?

    “It has to do with the extremely intensive American propaganda machine, which depicted the colonial era as a benevolent type of colonialism. Atrocities during the Philippine – American War of 1898–1901, which saw 1 million Philippine people killed, which was then almost one tenth of the population, were made to disappear from the consciousness of the people… the genocide, torture… The Philippines was known as the ‘first Vietnam’… all of this has been conveniently forgotten, hidden in the history books. And then of course the image of Hollywood that we are bombarded with…”

    How dangerous is it to antagonize China and even Russia? For centuries, China had been a very peaceful country, and it still is to this day. Many Filipinos come from China; it is a natural, historical ally… While the West is liquidating, and bombing entire countries into the ground, overthrowing governments, China pulls one oil-rig into disputed waters, sprays a few boats with water cannon, and it is immediately defined as the aggressor.

    “It is again all about propaganda. They depicted China as Communist and here they always attach a negative connotation to that word”, said Professor Teresa Tadem.

    “For me the most dangerous country on Earth now is the United States”, continues Eduardo Tadem. “It has been the most aggressive… intervening in many countries all over the world, thousands of miles from its shores, trying to impose on the planet its vision of a global capitalist system. So, if you compare what China is doing in the vicinity of its territory, and compare it to what the US is doing in all parts of the world, on every continent… then you clearly see the disparity in the image that has been created, depicting China as a danger to peace in the world.”


    AFP Photo/Philippe Lopez

    Both professors then expressed deep concern over the fact that Western propaganda is igniting Sino-phobia in Filipinos and in other Asians. They pointed out that what the US is doing is actually fanning ultra-nationalism, which can easily mutate into fascism. This is, according to them, an extremely dangerous situation - planting seeds of Sino-phobia all over the continent.

    “This can lead to a point of no return”, explains Eduardo Tadem. “I am afraid that this is what is happening now in the Philippines, as well as in other parts of Asia where territorial disputes are taking place.”

    And it is clearly not only Sino-phobia that can lead to the destruction of the world, although partially Sino-phobia definitely is. Stirring hatred against Russia is also clearly on the menu of the Western masters of propaganda. Stephen Harper of Canada, Polish and Baltic politicians and their irrational anti-Russian speeches, are all leading to a frightening outcome: manufacturing racism against those nations that are standing in the way of US and European domination of the world.

    Dehumanizing a potential enemy, unleashing racist and derogatory sentiments against him or her, is the first step in the Western ‘art’ of war, the first step towards a confrontation.
    Speaking up

    People are beginning to speak up. Geoffrey Gunn, a prominent Australian historian and Professor Emeritus at Nagasaki University in Japan, wrote to me, for this report:

    “The international media big notes the "China threat," yet who is the provocateur? We observe the Japanese Prime Minister in Singapore (May 30) offering to lead an international coalition to check Chinese aggression offering 'quality' Japanese naval vessels to obliging clients as with the Philippines and Vietnam. This is madness coming from a nation without official contrition, seeking as well to unpick its "god-save the peace constitution." Meantime, the neo-con government in Australia overreaches with matching rhetoric, together snaring the US Defense Secretary to offer his own "pivot" to the South China Sea. My spin is to let Asian nationalisms (China, Vietnam, Japan, Korea) resolve their own problems diplomatically - after all the central kingdom has been in place for several millennium - outsiders keep out, militarists watch your step, and China rise peacefully.”

    Are we being dragged into the final global confrontation, to a possible WWIII? Observed from Asia Pacific or from Ukraine, it clearly appears so.

    Christopher Black has no doubts that provoking, antagonizing and insulting powerful independent countries like Russia and China may be the next step towards the destruction of our human race:

    "All these actions are preparations for war. In fact, the positioning of American anti-ballistic missile batteries in Eastern Europe is in preparation for a nuclear first strike on Russia. Those batteries are deployed solely for the purpose of trying to intercept a retaliatory strike by Russian nuclear forces after a US first strike. They have no other purpose. These preparations for a war of aggression, in fact nuclear war, are a clear violation of the UN Charter and all international laws and can rightly be characterized as war crimes. But since the United States has contempt for all international laws and civilized standards of behavior we can expect these preparations to continue.

    Mankind rests on the brink of annihilation for no other reason than the American pursuit of unlimited profit. They are the extremists of the capitalist system. We must hope that the skillful diplomacy we have seen employed by both Russia and China, the increased pace of their bilateral cooperation with each other and their increased steps to achieve multilateral cooperation throughout the world from Latin American to Africa and Europe and Asia will change the power dynamics of the world sufficiently to prevent the Americans and their allies from achieving their aims so that the peoples of the world can live in peace and devote their energies to solving mankind's pressing problems."

    The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT.

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