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    Does the name ET's sound better for you?
    I'm not into 'ufoology' ; )

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    Unidentified 2006

    You can watch this movie free online if you haven't
    got it. I can't put a link to it here in this forum
    as per the forum rules.

    I was expecting to watch a movie about ufo encounters
    but i got fooled. People in this movie claimed to have
    been abducted by aliens and then later on, told by Mib
    to keep there mouth shut.

    The movie revolves around 4 magazine reporters trying to
    find out what happened to these people during there abduction
    but slowly the focus was taken off of ufo's and put on demons
    and God.

    Two christian reporters found out that satan is using every
    means possible to make people believe that there is life other
    than us in the universe and make God almost non-existent.

    The movie is saying that all these ufo encounters are nothing
    more than satan using his bag of dirty tricks to fool people
    by making people think that aliens created us and not God.

    It also mentions something about the few people on this planet
    that are running/ruling everything and they are here to prevent
    us from evolving into a higher spiritual being.

    ***Note***
    This is only a movie. This is not something that really
    happened but to me, there is a lot of truth in it.

    Search for free online movies and once you find one,
    search for the title of the movie. I think you will like it.

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    Default John Lash discusses Gnosticism,ascension.2012 etc...vids

    John will push many people's buttons with his candid views on spirituality and the many distractions and deceptions out there...worth a listen,notice your reactions and ask why?

    http://www.youtube.com/user/webbotforumcom?feature=mhum

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    About an hour in. Great so far. I never pitch my tent.
    Out beyond the ideas of right-doing or wrong-doing there is a field- I'll meet you there.

    -Jelaluddin Rumi

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    Long interview with John Lash on the webbot channel (April 2, 2011):
    http://www.youtube.com/user/webbotforumcom?feature=mhum
    (This was originally posted in the Spirituality forum)

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    Thanks for this thread.
    There is an article by Lash in the latest Nexus magazine where he talks about this and, never having read any of his stuff before, it totally opened my mind... If the whole genetic manipulation thing is a hoax then our imaginations are only as limited as the boundaries put there by TPTB... We're taught that there's something wrong (not whole) with us and so the human race behaves accordingly... Lead around mentally by them like pets thinking we're not the full quid or something.... It just resonates with me that this is bull. We just need to stop this belief that has been placed there. We're also told we're 'evil' a lot... The world is a reflection of our imaginations and our imaginations have been highjacked.
    I did a gnostic course recently on astral travelling. The Gnosics believe that Jesus was teaching these techniques and showing people they are not limited by their earthly body because they go into the 5th dimension every night and that's where they go when they die. If the people around him were able to prove this to themselves then they would truly have understood there is no death. This would have been truly revolutionary and have totally undermined the fear based control perpetrated by the elite... They would have to do something about that... Lash does say that Jesus was another victim of all this because he bought into the whole messiah/chosen one thing too though...
    Ah, I love this thread!

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    Quote Posted by Decibellistics (here)
    He has an interesting viewpoint on the subject of the elite.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpfkH...eature=related
    Deci, I love this video, the speaker, John Lash. He makes sense.

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    Quote Posted by sister (here)
    Long interview with John Lash on the webbot channel (April 2, 2011):
    http://www.youtube.com/user/webbotforumcom?feature=mhum
    (This was originally posted in the Spirituality forum)
    I am in the process of digesting this long vid. John Lash has extremely interesting views, some of which I will have to explore further.
    So, thank you, sister.

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    I am in the process of digesting this long vid. John Lash has extremely interesting views, some of which I will have to explore further.
    So, thank you, sister.
    You are welcome There's a lot of material to digest in that interview, for sure. I am having difficulty reconciling two of the themes in particular.
    Here's a quote from the metahistory website:

    "Contra-violence is the use of violence by people opposed to violence who, nevertheless, regard a non-violent response as inadequate in certain situations. The term "contra-violence" signifies action taken against violence, equivalent to it in strength and effectiveness, not passive non-violent resistance. But the action so taken does not involve direct-contact physical enactment of violence. Rather, it involves activating aggressive and lethal force equivalent and superior to the violence opposed.
    To understand such force and how to apply it requires first a close look at the nature of the violence to be defeated, that is, the unique deviant behavior of intra-species predation."

    http://www.metahistory.org/RiteAction/openseason2.php


    French version of metahistory.org here:
    http://www.liberterre.fr/metahistoire/index.html
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    Default Veritas Show - John Lash - Metahistory and Gnosticism - 1 of 5

    John Lash unravels historical textural evidence exposing the cover-up, conspiracy and agenda behind the betrayal of humanity's spiritual heritage. Principals, he informs, deviated by a political system in the guise of religion. A religion modeled primarily from patriarchal domination; ignited by delusional beliefs, intimidation and the power of suffering; leaving in its wake a horrific legacy of conquest and conversion by violent force, suppression and hypocrisy. "Salvation history mirrors the hidden workings of our most narcissistic, self-destructive impulses." The rising tide of victimization that accompanied these beliefs, diluted our ancestors confidence in continuing to cultivate and live from their life affirming values, body-based morality and imaginative visionary endowments. His exposition cites evidence describing the source and motivation behind the tragic eradication of the Mystery Schools by these forces.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/VeritasS.../0/Ijg17r9Kxi8

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    Default Re: Veritas Show - John Lash - Metahistory and Gnosticism - 1 of 5

    In part 5 of this interview, John Lash suggests reading The Meditations By Marcus Aurelius.
    Here is a link to an online version:
    http://classics.mit.edu/Antoninus/meditations.html

    This is (in JLL's words) "The essence of Pagan ethics."

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    Quote Posted by sister (here)
    In part 5 of this interview, John Lash suggests reading The Meditations By Marcus Aurelius.
    Here is a link to an online version:
    http://classics.mit.edu/Antoninus/meditations.html

    This is (in JLL's words) "The essence of Pagan ethics."
    He also often talks about the history of the word 'Pagan' it's true meaning and definition which is different from what is generally described in religious contexts. It's something I look forward to studying further.

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    Quote Posted by sister (here)
    In part 5 of this interview, John Lash suggests reading The Meditations By Marcus Aurelius.
    Here is a link to an online version:
    http://classics.mit.edu/Antoninus/meditations.html

    This is (in JLL's words) "The essence of Pagan ethics."
    He also often talks about the history of the word 'Pagan' it's true meaning and definition which is different from what is generally described in religious contexts. It's something I look forward to studying further.


    Hi Joe, maybe you've already seen this, but I will include it for discussion. Found it this AM while searching for the Marcus Aurelius info:
    http://www.metahistory.org/Lexicon/lexicon_P.php

    peace
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    Quote Long interview with John Lash on the webbot channel (April 2, 2011):
    http://www.youtube.com/user/webbotforumcom?feature=mhum
    In part 6 of this interview, Lash mentions how to properly engage an archon during an encounter and cites the Gnostic Catechism as the source of this wisdom. Here is the text of that document in part:

    The Master said: James, behold, I shall reveal to you the path of your redemption. Whenever you are siezed and you undergo death-pangs (mortal fear), a multitude of Archons may turn on you, thinking they can capture you. And in particular, three of them will sieze you, those who pose as toll collectors. Not only do they demand toll, but they take away souls by theft.

    Now, when you come under their power, one of them who is the overseer will say to you: "Who are you, and where are you from?"

    You are then to say to him, "I am a child of humanity and I am from the Source."

    He will then say to you, "What sort of child are you, and to what Source do you belong?"

    You are to say to him, "I am from the pre-existent Source, and I am the offspring of the Source."

    Then he will say to you, "Why were you sent out from the Source?"

    Then you are to say to him, "I came from the Pre-existent One so that I might behold those of my kind and those who are alien."

    And he will say to you, "What are these alien beings?"

    You are to say to him: "They are not entirely alien, for they are from the Fallen Sophia (Achamoth), the female divinity who produced them when she brought the human race down from the Source, the realm of the Pre-Existent One. So they are not entirely alien, but they are our kin. They are indeed so because she who is their matrix, Sophia Achamoth, is from the Source. At the same time they are alien because Sophia did not combine with her like in the Source (her divine male counterpart), when she produced them."

    When he also says to you, "Where will you go now?"

    You are to say to him, "To the place when I came, the Source, there shall I return." And if you respond in this manner, you will escape their attacks.

    (NHC V, 3. 33 - 34: 1- 25. Translation from NHLE 1990, pp. 265-6 and Kurt Rudolf, Gnosis, p. 174-5.)


    (The original source of this instruction is The First Apocalypse of James (NHC V, 3), a revelation dialogue in which an unnamed teacher (the "Lord" or "Master") confers secret knowledge upon a Gnostic named James.)

    More here:
    http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique...cCatechism.php
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    As of today, I own a copy of John Lash's book, Not in His Image, Gnostic Vision, Sacred Ecology, and the Future of Belief. I do realize that this is a rather sacrilegious statement, but I can't wait to start reading it with kitty on my lap.

    This is not meant to hurt the feelings of anyone whose religious beliefs support this holiday.
    We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
    Plato

    Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
    Martin Luther King, Jr.

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    it is an amazing thing that Christianity has survived for 2000 years


    how on earth did Christianity survive

    the Crucifixion of Christ and after that

    some 300 years of persecution first from Jerusalem then from Rome


    Back then they were feeding Christians to the lions as amusement


    so how did it survive !

    Who is guarding Christianity ?

    and who is attacking it !


    Do you know who you're up against ?

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    it is an amazing thing that Christianity has survived for 2000 years


    how on earth did Christianity survive

    the Crucifixion of Christ and after that

    some 300 years of persecution first from Jerusalem then from Rome


    Back then they were feeding Christians to the lions as amusement


    so how did it survive !

    Who is guarding Christianity ?

    and who is attacking it !


    Do you know who you're up against ?
    Christianity is an unbelieveable effective tool if you want to manipulate people.

    The reason that it has survived 2000 years Im convinced is that the manipulated

    has believed in it. And wot choice did they have, fully occupied with getting food

    on the table. More astonishing I think it is that a lot of people still is down on their knees

    praying and sacrificing to this sinister jahve. I really resonate with this Sofia myth. Its so

    much more spacious than Crucianity. And its so down to earth or may I say soil.

    And its a great pleasure to listen to John Lashs presentations of it.

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    from Sister's post above: In part 6 of this interview, Lash mentions how to properly engage an archon during an encounter and cites the Gnostic Catechism as the source of this wisdom.

    Thank You Sister.
    This described interchange which you just posted parallels so closely what I experienced many years ago that I felt a moment of Aha. I was asked 4 questions and was guided carefully to the correct answers. The group identified themselves as The Old Ones and they asked:
    Why are you here?
    What is your purpose?
    Whom do you serve?
    Tell us, where are you going from here?

    The answers were basically what is given in your post.

    It was confusing at the time and felt like mental torchure but I never forgot the experience.

    Coincidentally I just read the following today which seems very much to parallel the rules of perhaps, universal, laws.

    http://www.activistpost.com/2011/04/...slave-you.html

    The 5 Words Used to Control / Enslave You
    Steven, Æ, Contributing Writer
    Activist Post
    April 17, 2011
    Note: Many well-known freedom movement spokesmen/women have not been willing to fully discuss and expose this subject for reasons known only to them. Why? Because, they either think it is too trivial, they do not fully understand it or perhaps in their mind, it’s been debunked by an attorney, whom they give credence to, without doing their own thorough due diligence. It is also important to note that there are some well-intentioned lawyers who strive to assist in making our world a safer and better place for all to live. The intention of this article is to shine a bright light and empower you to help break the matrix grip.
    First and foremost, it is vitally important to comprehend that everything in the business / commercial world is done by contract, both public and private. Secondly, relationships are also contractual — marital, parental and social (friendships). You both consciously and unconsciously verbally contract all day long, and when merited, in written form as well.
    Words are understood to be very powerful and it is through spelling that spells are cast. However, it is a very misunderstood fact that words used in everyday language most often do not have the same meaning in a legal sense (contractual or court setting).
    What are these 5 words that are used to control / enslave you? Person, resident, citizen, driver and passenger (all commercial terms). In my humble opinion, these 5 words are the keys to casting the spell in the attorneys’ legal jargon trickery. All commercial transactions / contracts have been designed to remove the men and women from the equation and replace with a legal fictional entity in the matrix system.
    PERSON is a legal entity – a trust, corporation, partnership, association. Don’t be fooled by the attorney’s statutory word trickery if you see “natural person”. An adverb cannot change the root meaning of a word. Plain and simple, it is impossible to be a “person”. You are either a man or woman – a living being. A “person” is a dead entity and attorneys may only represent persons – commercial legal entities.
    RESIDENT is the word term used to establish jurisdiction in a State (a legal entity). To “reside” is a commercial term only used to establish domicile for tax revenue purposes.
    CITIZEN is the word term used to establish jurisdiction in a Federal district. It is also a commercial term only used to establish domicile for tax revenue purposes. The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) may only tax those people who have voluntarily deemed themselves internal to the district. Thus only legal entities have tax liability.
    DRIVER is a For Hire / paid operator of a motor vehicle. The term “motor vehicle” is defined as every description of carriage or other contrivance propelled or drawn by mechanical power used for commercial purposes on the highways in the transportation of passengers, passengers and property, or property or cargo.
    PASSENGER is someone who pays a fare for passage on a commercial carrier – airplane, bus, taxi, limousine, cruise ship, train or trolley, rather than a “guest” who travels without charge or fee.

    It is necessary to go to the very root when looking at a complex problem. It is obvious that most politicians and their key staff are attorneys/lawyers, who are minions in servitude to the bankers. The simplest solution is to start removing the attorneys from office.
    Take note of these quotes:
    “In a recent conversation with an official at the Internal Revenue Service, I was amazed when he told me that ‘If the taxpayers of this country ever discover that the IRS operates on 90% bluff, the entire system will collapse’.” — Henry Bellmon, U.S. Senator (1969).
    “Our tax system is based on individual self-assessment and voluntary compliance.” — Mortimer Caplin, former Commissioner of Internal Revenue, Internal Revenue Audit Manual (1975).
    “Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are U.S. government institutions. They are not … they are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the U.S. for the benefit of themselves and their foreign and domestic swindlers, and rich and predatory money lenders. The sack of the United States by the Fed is the greatest crime in history. Every effort has been made by the Fed to conceal its powers, but the truth is the Fed has usurped the government. It controls everything here and it controls all our foreign relations. It makes and breaks governments at will.” — Congressman Charles McFadden, Chairman, House Banking and Currency Committee, June 10, 1932.
    “The real truth of the matter is, and you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson. History depicts Andrew Jackson as the last truly honorable and incorruptible American president.” — President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, November 23, 1933 in a letter to Colonel Edward Mandell House.
    “… our system of credit is concentrated … in the hands of a few men .. a power so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that [we had] better not speak above [our] breath when [we] speak in condemnation of it … We have come to be … completely controlled … by … small groups of dominant men.” — President Woodrow Wilson.
    “The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes” — Felix Frankfurter, United States Supreme Court Justice.
    “Give me control over a nation’s currency and I care not who makes its laws.” — Baron M.A. Rothschild (1744 – 1812)
    The Solution for unraveling control in the matrix grip:
    The NAME = all Capital letter designation – JOHN DOE or JANE DOE is the corporate legal entity = person (also known as – strawman).
    This is not a trivial matter. The key to your freedom is to know that you are not this NAME / PERSON. The voluntary act of identifying yourself in a legal contractual setting without proper status declaration will continue your enslavement to the system. You are a living being.
    There are 4 ways to respond when offered a contract – acceptance, conditional acceptance, rejection or going silent (acquiescence). The first two choices are honorable and the last two choices are dishonorable.
    Why is a judge referred to as Your Honor? – It’s because he/she is weighing who is before him/her and remaining in honor . . . like a mirror and also weighing who will get into argument and therefore acting in dishonor.
    Lessons in HONOR AND DISHONOR
    You will always lose unless you abide by the rules of the matrix game. You will probably lose even if you use the rules, because you will argue and that is what the “controllers” want you to do, argue. When you argue, you are in dishonor. This is unfortunately how we’ve been conditioned.
    Forget about the law. The law is only for those that have violated some tenet of commerce.
    Remember, everything in this world is a contract. When you go to the store to purchase a quart of milk, you are about to enter into a contract. When you pick up the milk and pay for it, the clerk will give you a receipt. This receipt is the title to the quart of milk. If you discard the receipt before you leave the store and you leave the store, you could be charged with stealing since you do not have the title to the milk.
    You will probably begin to argue. Once you begin to argue, you are in dishonor and when you are in dishonor nothing matters except getting back in honor.
    Here is a Biblical story example: Jesus came upon the land to teach people how to operate in commerce. His main purpose was to save us from our dishonor. Yet we persist in this dishonor by acquiring things, which we are treating as little demigods.
    One of the best lessons Jesus taught was by his example. On his trip to Galilee, he encountered three beggars, who called out and said “Jesus, heal us”! They were offering Jesus a contract.
    There are four possible ways in which to answer when one is offered a contract.
    a. Agree to the contract and you are in honor.
    b. Remain silent (is consider insolent) and therefore you are in dishonor.
    c. To argue about the contract is a dishonor. That is why the courts want you to have an attorney. Attorneys argue and get you in dishonor. They are there to turn you in!
    d. Doing a novation is like bargaining and it is a conditional acceptance. For example, if a merchant is selling apples for one dollar each and you want an apple, but you don’t want to pay a dollar, you may offer fifty cents. This is bartering, not dishonor and you are remaining in honor. You have just placed the merchant in the position of having to make one of the same four choices on how to answer. You will probably walk away and he will lose the sale if he declines by arguing or remaining silent. He lost because he dishonored you. He remains in honor if he chooses ‘d’.
    Getting back to the lesson. The beggars offered Jesus a contract. Jesus replied, “What would you have me do?” He is now doing a novation to the contract. Before he can comply, he has to know what the contract requires. The beggars then re-offered the contract to Jesus by saying, “make us see”. He then agreed by saying, “you are healed”. The beggars and Jesus were always in honor and the contract was completed and everyone was satisfied.
    In a court setting, you should re-offer the Judge, by stating: Your Honor, I conditionally accept your offer to give you a NAME upon Proof of Claim that if I do so, it will not bind me to any contract with the State of XYZ (whatever jurisdiction you are supposedly in). The judge will keep trying to get you into contract. You must continue to conditionally accepting the judge’s offer by continually repeating, upon Proof of whatever Claim they are making.
    The case is The State of XXY v. JOHN DOE. The judge asks you…How do you plead, Guilty or Not Guilty? or he may say Responsible or Not Responsible? Your answer: Your honor, I conditionally accept your offer to plead upon Proof of Claim that the State of XYX is an injured or the State of XYZ and I have a contract and upon Proof of Claim that the XYZ on the complaint, in all upper case letters is not a legal fiction and upon Proof of Claim that, I, a living being, am a corporation.
    PRESUMPTION
    The people of the courts and all levels of government presume that you are a corporation because all courts and governments are legal fictions and following the law of like kind can only deal with other legal fictions or incompetent persons. All government codes/statutes (laws) deal only with persons, corporations, trusts, partnerships or other like entities. They are not real. They only exist on paper (in form). They do not exist in the physical sense (substance).
    A city, a county and a state have lines drawn on a map that show (what they claim to be) their jurisdiction. There are buildings that are referred to as schools, courts, offices and other titles. They are real because they are made with gravel, cement, wood and other physical materials. The government is a fiction created from a man’s imagination. It is of course not real, and only an image in people’s minds. It cannot do anything without the physical man. The physical man has a “go between” and that “go between” is a legal fiction. It is a transmitting utility. Just like the electric power company manufactures electrical power for business or home use, the transmission lines are the transmitting utility that connects them together. The person – legal entity – strawman – all capital letter name fictional corporation is the transmitting utility between the flesh and blood man and the government and its agencies.
    Presumption comes into play when you receive a contract from the government, a police officer, court, etc., and if you do not correct them, they will presume that you are the all capital letter NAME – legal entity. It is when you don’t correct them that the presumption becomes a stipulation of fact.
    STIPULATION
    A stipulation is an agreement that the facts of the case are not in dispute and therefore will not and cannot be addressed from the point of stipulation. The way that you get into a contract is by doing something that you may be unaware of . . . like a drivers license. You are offering the State to allow you to operate a vehicle in a commercial venture on the roadways within the State, when you apply for a driver’s license.
    Whomever offers the contract has the energy or the power because they are the Creditor. The one who is being offered the contract is the Debtor. You always want to be the Creditor. Now, while you are operating the vehicle in commerce, you violate a rule (law) that you agreed to abide by accepting the license.
    You were the Creditor when you applied for a license, and were in honor. They were the Debtor. Then they re-offered you the license, making them the Creditor and you the Debtor. Everyone is still in honor when you accepted the license (contract). When you violate some rule (law), you are in dishonor and have to go to a hearing (court). Once again, you are going through the same rules. Honor and dishonor.
    CONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE
    Condition yourself to remember that everything is a contract. When somebody offers you a contract and you do not like the terms, simply re-offer or counter-offer. When a debt collector sends a letter / a collection notice that is a contract. You now have the choices of a, b, c, and d. What are you going to do? The thing not to do is argue or remain silent. You must re-offer in a timely manner.
    “Mr. Debt Collector, I conditionally accept your offer to pay the debt indicated, upon Proof of Claim that you are the owner of the debt and upon Proof of Claim that you and I have a signed contract.
    When a police officer pulls you over and offers you a ticket for speeding, the ticket is a contract. When he asks you to sign the ticket, stating that you promise to appear at a certain date, that is a contract. You may properly do two things.
    1. You may demand that the police officer takes you to a Judge/Magistrate immediately or;
    2. You may sign the ticket: All rights reserved, UCC 1-308, and then sign the Name below what you just wrote on the ticket. This action allows you 72 hours to rescind the contract. A widely recognized and universal law of commerce is that contracts can be canceled within 72 hours. Many contracts include a document titled “notice of rescission.” The buyer, in most cases, must execute / sign and date the document and get it into the possession of the seller in order to properly rescind the sale.
    If you are arrested and taken before a Magistrate, he/she will ask you to state your Name. The Magistrate is making you an offer to enter their jurisdiction. Next you will be invited to sign the paper the clerk offers you. You will be in a contract if you sign it.
    Remember, if you are about to go into court, it is vitally important to declare that you are not a corporation prior to a hearing or trial. Otherwise, the judge will find your silence on that point a fact and then proceed under the presumption that you are a corporation.
    Please remember, you are not a Name. You are a very powerful living being when in honor.
    One, known as Steven, Æ spiritual Living Being having a human experience. One lives “life in this realm” intentionally and loves, honors and respects all Universal beings as One. He does not have to prove the negative, rather One just needs to know to not get trapped with controlling words and jargon designed as such. One is not a person, not a subject or citizen nor has any allegiance to any country, State or States in contract, not a U.S. Citizen or National, not a civilian, not a resident, not a legal entity dolus trust, not an enemy combatant, and One is not a member of any Jural, political or religious society/body. Be it also known that “person” is a word of the Private Civil Law, and a “man” is a word of nature.

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    Quote Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
    The reason that it has survived 2000 years Im convinced is that the manipulated

    has believed in it.
    still it doesn't answer how Christianity survived it's first 300 years of persecution

    it oughta be plucked up by it's roots really a long time ago

    but it's still here


    somewhat perverted perhaps

    but what can one expect after 2000 years amongst mankind hehe



    Sofia was stacked away as a Christian heresy in Nag Hammadi when the Nicene Creed became the only legitimate Roman religion in 380 AD

    So they found the forgotten Gnostic books again in Egypt


    But if the Gnostic gospel wasn't true back then it's probably not true now


    A fascinating read maybe and nothing more ; )

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    Quote Posted by Herbert (here)
    I was asked 4 questions and was guided carefully to the correct answers. The group identified themselves as The Old Ones and they asked:
    Why are you here?
    What is your purpose?
    Whom do you serve?
    Tell us, where are you going from here?

    The answers were basically what is given in your post.

    It was confusing at the time and felt like mental torchure but I never forgot the experience.
    So how are the Old Ones these days ?

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