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    Default Advanced Extraterrestrials are Vastly Atheist

    In my contact experiences I've asked about god plenty of times, and every type of ET I have spoken to treads lightly(at first) but says they are atheist. They wouldn't ever dream of pushing their beliefs on others, but the blond ETs I spoke to said they are vegan atheists. They also said that believing in God is a genetic trait. One implanted into us because we were ruled by 'the gods' and being humble (in a bad way) was desired. Maybe this is controversial of me to post... I apologize to anyone who I may offend. I know atheism isn't exactly popular, but I believe it is where our path will take us as well.

    Getting into the reasons they are atheist..... After viewing the flaws of the universe, it becomes quite evident they have said that this universe was not designed by one supreme being. For example some races suffered nuclear holocausts and screwed their race and planet forever basically...... Would a god allow that?

    Once a race like ours has access to the vast archives of the allied races (the nice ones who would let us mosey through their archives), studying religion leads one to see that often primitive races believe in all sorts of God(s), plural or non. Some religions are very odd they have said. I agree, very odd indeed. We have one on earth that believes a guy was nailed to a cross to save mankind... If that isn't odd I don't know what is...

    Another big reason is that there has been no contact by such a God throughout the history of the universe. I term ETs angels and demons at times. For example Nordics, the blonds, are angels(Any race that is benevolent, advanced, and very evolved is a angel race IMHO). And greys/reptilians are vastly demons/fallen angels(sorry but greys do not have our best interests at heart, in fact they HATE humans in reality IMHO). Kind of ironic to have atheist angels.... lol. Anyway, basically the 'angels', have no contact with god, and never have. Anyone telling you otherwise was lied to IMHO. And its quite a big secret this one, so I expect lots of lies shrouded around this topic to contactees...

    ETs have told me that science will eventually merge with spirituality in a natural progression of a race like ours and our primitive beliefs about God will fade away...

    And to end this post, the blond ones have made it clear they are very spiritual. They just aren't religious...
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    Default Re: Advanced Extraterrestrials are Vastly Atheist

    Good OP Omniverse, I agree!

    I do not want to upset people with Religious faiths but! to me I see them purely as 'Comfort Zones' and or 'CONTROL-SYSTEMS'

    I see Spitefulness all around and it's true but! not controlled or governed!

    Again very interesting OP
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
    We need LEADERS who bat from the HEART!
    Rise up above them Dark evil doers, not within anger but with LOVE

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    Default Re: Advanced Extraterrestrials are Vastly Atheist

    Thanks for your thoughts Omniverse! It is my experience that Nordics being intellectual can forget to work from a heart centred place.
    Also, you may not like this, but I was shown the small darker greys were genetically manipulated to function as slaves for the Nordics. So the smaller greys are not too bright, almost vegetables walking some of them. There have been instances where they have rebelled in Nordic homes, a sad situation for all involved.
    Their original template species are whiter, bigger and quite aggressive. (Not sure why they would be considered a good species for the function of a slave species - except for their body size and sufficiently different look).

    But Nordics aren't all perfect just as we are not and they can be very cold and steely. It is my understanding that even angels have goals and therefore they aren't always about what is for just our own higher good, so I wouldn't say Nordics were un-angelic as that would be over promotion of the lovely angels, lol.
    The good thing is that to travel through vibratory fields one must release attachment to various attitudes we would consider disruptive and is easier for those who we would deem ethical.

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    Quote Posted by Tigressa (here)
    Thanks for your thoughts Omniverse! It is my experience that Nordics being intellectual can forget to work from a heart centred place.
    Also, you may not like this, but I was shown the small darker greys were genetically manipulated to function as slaves for the Nordics. So the smaller greys are not too bright, almost vegetables walking some of them. There have been instances where they have rebelled in Nordic homes, a sad situation for all involved.
    Their original template species are whiter, bigger and quite aggressive. (Not sure why they would be considered a good species for the function of a slave species - except for their body size and sufficiently different look).

    But Nordics aren't all perfect just as we are not and they can be very cold and steely. It is my understanding that even angels have goals and therefore they aren't always about what is for just our own higher good, so I wouldn't say Nordics were un-angelic as that would be over promotion of the lovely angels, lol.
    The good thing is that to travel through vibratory fields one must release attachment to various attitudes we would consider disruptive and is easier for those who we would deem ethical.
    Being that the nordics and greys are at odds with one another I find your post to be likely disinformation (not disinfo by you but disinfo in it's source). The blond ones I spoke to wouldn't enslave a race and do not genetically engineer little 5's to do their bidding(I call small greys little 5's, 5 being 2 arms 2 legs and a head).

    The small greys are reptilian products IMHO. And the only blond race that uses them that I know of, is the US government(some blond anyway). As they are called PLF's. I have actually spoken to PLF's torturing me before.... They aren't unpleasant at all oddly enough(even though he was operating my torture).

    Also, it's possible you may be speaking of a off planet government like ours, that has blond haired people, that also have PLFs. When I say nordics I mean the very evolved ones that are all very nice. The US agents I have spoken to call the male nordics pansys because they are so heart involved.. Odd you would bring up them not using their hearts......

    The blonds did warn me about disinfo being propagated about them, since the US gov and reptilians/greys hate them with a passion(well the reptiles with a passion, not so much the greys as they do not have passion). One scenario they told me about is there will be a hologram of a nordic during an abduction in the corner of the room, just so when the abductee speaks it seems like they are in on it too... They also said that there are blond humanoids who are not good beings that are used just because they look like a nordic... So maybe we are not speaking of the same race.
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    I should have wait untill a more thoughtfull response would be pulled out of my sleeves and unforunately time is an issue as well, but I just want to thank you Omniverse for posting and expressing on this intriguing issue (atheism, god or gods, religion and the ET's), I do not resonate with the immediate association of the blonds and nordics as "good" or as angels (niether as "bad") and the other way around, one example is the "Tall whites" who are known to be deeply working/orchastrating with our shadow government, and on the contrary some have testified to the kindness and benevolence of a few of the reptilians species, Barbara Lamb testimony etc.
    Spirituality has many hats and faces, many would like to put a crown on their heads knowing very well that it will entice us, since they understand the great emphasis that we like to put on this now. a quiet vigilance has an important role for us.

    The belief in god as a genetic trait, a program which was implanted in the human species sounds very reliable in light of the hierarchical structure deliberately built here on earth, copied from the rulling ED's caste system which is prevaling in their worlds and realms. All that is quite useful for enslavement as was planned, intended and implemented on our environment here. I share your view on atheism and the religious beliefes.. Thanks for the interesting topic and for posting your experiences here. Limor ~
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    Default Re: Advanced Extraterrestrials are Vastly Atheist

    We can by definition only postulate the infinity of the universe; meanwhile, 'endless possibilities' is a good enough approximation to be going on with for quite some time. In other words, God not as a belief but as a working hypothesis, i.e a hypothesis that seems to work about the workings of the universe. The dead ends are also endless.


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    Quote Posted by Limor (here)
    one example is the "Tall whites" who are known to be deeply working/orchastrating with our shadow government, and on the contrary some have testified to the kindness and benevolence of a few of the reptilians species, Barbara Lamb testimony etc.
    In general the ones who are scary looking are not very nice. I have seen their mezmorizing AI that seems all love and lighty. Any advanced race out there can appear to be benevolent in a VERY convincing way, especially when they primarily speak to people interfacing an AI, that is doing all the talking. Tall whites to me, are malevolent. Even though speaking to them I'm sure they would be courteous. I was told the tall whites are generally nicer than most races they are allied with, but are allied with malevolent forces nonetheless.
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    I will echo Limor in that I should perhaps post only after deeper contemplation but yes! time is of the essence.

    My own experiential data is that we, as human mind constructs, have an "implanted" need to categorize and delineate data in a manner that makes some logical sense to us. So while I appreciate the topic posed as to whether or not ETs view a universe where God is omnipotent or not a good question, I find it difficult to go into agreement with the good/ bad ET paradigm.

    I have been in contact (telepathically) with Greys, Nordics, Reptilians, Mantids.. so my own experiences allow me to see that all of these "races" are "consciousness expressing" and therefore they are not locked into any singular ideological paradigm. Indeed I have found the Reptilians to be the most interested and susceptible to amazement when confronted with a previously unseen consciousness as the idea of freedom takes hold.

    All hierarchical structures will ultimately break down and so it is with "other" races. Whether we believe in one supreme being or not bears little relevance in context with a cosmic intelligence so awesome that even the most advanced species is still traversing the edges of infinity.

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    Quote Originally posted by Omniverse: "In general the ones who are scary looking are not very nice"
    In general that is probably true. But we may also want to keep in mind that earth is just a tiny place (which attracts a lot of attention) and what and who we meet here at this time (of thousands of years) is a small representation of those who directly like to put their hands in the jar, most of them if not all, are affiliated one way or another with the earth agenda. There is a vast versatility of life out there where this rule may not apply. The other side of this 'rule' may be the constructing of 'an Holywood image' of a barbie doll like humans who look beautiful in appearence and are 'plastic' like, almost robotic and devoid of soul and meaning. They are nice looking by all means but they resemble an 'aryan' fascade which many times it's outside impression is contradicting to it's inside emotionless nature. So, I hear what you say and resonate with it, except maybe for the opening sentence.
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    Quote Posted by Christine (here)
    I will echo Limor in that I should perhaps post only after deeper contemplation but yes! time is of the essence.

    My own experiential data is that we, as human mind constructs, have an "implanted" need to categorize and delineate data in a manner that makes some logical sense to us. So while I appreciate the topic posed as to whether or not ETs view a universe where God is omnipotent or not a good question, I find it difficult to go into agreement with the good/ bad ET paradigm.

    I have been in contact (telepathically) with Greys, Nordics, Reptilians, Mantids.. so my own experiences allow me to see that all of these "races" are "consciousness expressing" and therefore they are not locked into any singular ideological paradigm. Indeed I have found the Reptilians to be the most interested and susceptible to amazement when confronted with a previously unseen consciousness as the idea of freedom takes hold.

    All hierarchical structures will ultimately break down and so it is with "other" races. Whether we believe in one supreme being or not bears little relevance in context with a cosmic intelligence so awesome that even the most advanced species is still traversing the edges of infinity.
    I've heard the arguement from a reptilian that was disgusted I called his race "bad". It was convincing, but..... There is basically 3 factions of ETs IMHO:
    A group of Allied races that want the best for humanity.
    Allied races that could not care less about our well being(that are helping our subjugators). One of their secrets IMHO: They mostly HATE humans....
    Neutral races(I don't remember if I came across any of these atm...)

    It's yihn yang at it's largest degree IMHO. The reptilian had good points for good bad being a flawed way to see it. Which did change my view a bit... But in the end I am loyal to the human race. And the allied races that are the greys/tallwhites/reptilians continue to aid in the screwing over of the human race.... Seems to me they know we will eventually become their enemy, so they want to screw us over as much as possible while our leadership is corrupted.... Taking shots at us while they still can.

    So in general I view it holographically. I can be in a mindset of seeing good and bad. Or I can be in a different mindstate. But in general planet earth is a spiritual battlefield. And 'up there' the sides are quite defined IMHO.

    Quote Posted by Limor (here)
    Quote Originally posted by Omniverse: "In general the ones who are scary looking are not very nice"
    In general that might be true. But we may also want to keep in mind that earth is just a tiny place (which attracts a lot of attention) and what and who we meet here at this time (of thousands of years) is a small representation of those who directly like to put their hands in the jar, most of them if not all, are affiliated one way or another with the earth agenda. There is a vast versatility of life out there where this rule may not apply. The other side of this 'rule' may be the constructing of 'an Holywood image' of a barbie doll like humans who look beautiful in appearence and are 'plastic' like, almost robotic and devoid of soul and meaning. They are nice looking by all means but they resemble an 'aryan' fascade which many times it's outside impression is contradicting to it's inside emotionless nature. So, I hear what you say and resonate with it, except maybe for the opening sentence.
    I'm sure there are funky looking races out there that are great beings. But I've never heard of a race that is scary looking that is good for humanity that operates on earth. Granted I keep an open mind...
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    Great conversation, getting down to the nuts and bolts, if you will of the alien agenda and our (human) connection with ourselves, consciousness, others, and the cosmic matrix.

    The question that literally jumped off the page of what you wrote is.. Why do they HATE us? What about humanity and the earth plane that has drawn so much attention with both malevolent and benevolent intent?

    Yes, we are on a spiritual battlefield.. which will be "won" if one can describe it that way on the spiritual level. No fear, even the most entrenched malevolent force is no match for pure love consciousness. This is the end of the enemy paradigm.. and all who seek power over are afraid of that.

    Our own ability to see, to confront non-violently.. to embrace. I too am deeply committed to humanity and planet earth.

    Quote Posted by Omniverse (here)
    I've heard the arguement from a reptilian that was disgusted I called his race "bad". It was convincing but… There is basically 3 factions of ETs IMHO:
    A group of Allied races that want the best for humanity.
    Allied races that could not care less about our well being(that are helping our subjugators). One of their secrets IMHO: They mostly HATE humans....
    Neutral races(I don't remember if I came across any of these atm...)

    It's yihn yang at it's largest degree IMHO. The reptilian had good points for good bad being a flawed way to see it. Which did change my view a bit... But in the end I am loyal to the human race. And the allied races that are the greys/tallwhites/reptilians continue to aid in the screwing over of the human race.... Seems to me they know we will eventually become their enemy, so they want to screw us over as much as possible while our leadership is corrupted.... Taking shots at us while they still can.

    So in general I view it holographically. I can be in a mindset of seeing good and bad. Or I can be in a different mindstate. But in general planet earth is a spiritual battlefield. And 'up there' the sides are quite defined IMHO.

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    Quote Posted by Christine (here)
    The question that literally jumped off the page of what you wrote is.. Why do they HATE us? What about humanity and the earth plane that has drawn so much attention with both malevolent and benevolent intent?
    The biggest reason I got(which they said there were many reasons) when I asked was that humans in the exopolitical spectrum have in effect negated the agenda of the malevolent ETs in a big way. The most malicious ETs would love to do whatever they want. And humans in effect have stopped them due to being an opposing force(for the greater good). So in exopolitics agreements have been made a long time ago that basically handcuffed both sides into non-interference(for the most part). And ever since that happened the oldest reptilian races have vowed to screw over the genetics of every human race that is projected to eventually aid in the exopolitical maths to determine what they are able to do or not do in their stomping grounds... Non-interference also has a role to play in an optimal environment as well.... But in general it's a product of opposing sides who have had to agree to things in exopolitical agreements due to sharing the same galaxy as other races... If this did not happen, and one side had free reign... We might be kneeling to reptiles every day, or in contrast if the other side won, we would have ET cured cancers any time it spawned in our bodies(if they liked the energy we sponsor anyway).

    Also, the typical idiot human of earth is quite annoying to some of the more cranky races(lol).

    Edit: Just remembered a convo with a reptilian saying that he HATES how sure humans are of their reality. How sure they are that they are right...
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    Quote Posted by Christine (here)
    I will echo Limor in that I should perhaps post only after deeper contemplation but yes! time is of the essence. :)

    My own experiential data is that we, as human mind constructs, have an "implanted" need to categorize and delineate data in a manner that makes some logical sense to us. So while I appreciate the topic posed as to whether or not ETs view a universe where God is omnipotent or not a good question, I find it difficult to go into agreement with the good/ bad ET paradigm.

    I have been in contact (telepathically) with Greys, Nordics, Reptilians, Mantids.. so my own experiences allow me to see that all of these "races" are "consciousness expressing" and therefore they are not locked into any singular ideological paradigm. Indeed I have found the Reptilians to be the most interested and susceptible to amazement when confronted with a previously unseen consciousness as the idea of freedom takes hold.

    All hierarchical structures will ultimately break down and so it is with "other" races. Whether we believe in one supreme being or not bears little relevance in context with a cosmic intelligence so awesome that even the most advanced species is still traversing the edges of infinity.
    I can't put into words that which Christine does so very well :) we do ineed have a tendency to catagorize and sort data which may fit into the only 'data base' we know and are familiar and programmed with, that is sometimes a rather limited and enclosed area of our perception, but there is and needs to be, imo, a paradigm of good and bad behaviour (emphasis on behaviour) which is more 'zoomed in' and practicaly oriented than the overall spiritual acceptence of everything and everyone as consciousness, or maybe it will be more accurate to say that both understandings need to lay side by side and complement one another.

    If a viable threat may be coming from a certain being, the ability to see them as the remarkable consciousness they are is a virtue and very usefull and represents an expanded mindedness, as well as reacting to prevent the perills or manipulation games coming from it. Hopefully we will not let our spirituality overcome our need to thrive and evolve as a specie, not to say to survive. When our ability to see will be sharp like a razor and our ability to accept and acommodate will be a second nature to us and our inner understanding will reclaim itself as an equal life form in the universe as does everyone else, then the awsome and infinite cosmic inteligence which is the existance in which we live in will be slightly more accessible for our discovering its treasures, untill we will get to this desired destination we may also need to acknowledge the ideological paradigm that IS part of the general races attributes (ourselves included) and that means "good" or "bad" behaviour, preferably while recognising the consciousness behind it. ~
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    Being that the nordics and greys are at odds with one another I find your post to be likely disinformation (not disinfo by you but disinfo in it's source). The blond ones I spoke to wouldn't enslave a race and do not genetically engineer little 5's to do their bidding(I call small greys little 5's, 5 being 2 arms 2 legs and a head).

    The small greys are reptilian products IMHO. And the only blond race that uses them that I know of, is the US government(some blond anyway). As they are called PLF's. I have actually spoken to PLF's torturing me before.... They aren't unpleasant at all oddly enough(even though he was operating my torture).

    Also, it's possible you may be speaking of a off planet government like ours, that has blond haired people, that also have PLFs. When I say nordics I mean the very evolved ones that are all very nice. The US agents I have spoken to call the male nordics pansys because they are so heart involved.. Odd you would bring up them not using their hearts......

    The blonds did warn me about disinfo being propagated about them, since the US gov and reptilians/greys hate them with a passion(well the reptiles with a passion, not so much the greys as they do not have passion). One scenario they told me about is there will be a hologram of a nordic during an abduction in the corner of the room, just so when the abductee speaks it seems like they are in on it too... They also said that there are blond humanoids who are not good beings that are used just because they look like a nordic... So maybe we are not speaking of the same race.
    Well, I can only speak from the standpoint of my own perceptions of course... Being that time is fluid I cannot say when this occurred, perhaps the timing could be a factor in why you find the concepts unbelievable?

    But to state "I find your post to be likely disinformation" seems rather a judgement call there Omniverse??!

    I stand by my information as it was a powerful, powerful experience of their reality.
    And I think generalising an entire race would be inadvisable, be they Grey, White, Reptilian or Nordic.

    But I am sorry to hear about your terrible experiences Omniverse, and wish you the best of luck in your travels.
    Nice topic even if we have different information on it!

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    Quote Posted by Tigressa (here)
    Quote Posted by Omniverse (here)
    Being that the nordics and greys are at odds with one another I find your post to be likely disinformation (not disinfo by you but disinfo in it's source). The blond ones I spoke to wouldn't enslave a race and do not genetically engineer little 5's to do their bidding(I call small greys little 5's, 5 being 2 arms 2 legs and a head).

    The small greys are reptilian products IMHO. And the only blond race that uses them that I know of, is the US government(some blond anyway). As they are called PLF's. I have actually spoken to PLF's torturing me before.... They aren't unpleasant at all oddly enough(even though he was operating my torture).

    Also, it's possible you may be speaking of a off planet government like ours, that has blond haired people, that also have PLFs. When I say nordics I mean the very evolved ones that are all very nice. The US agents I have spoken to call the male nordics pansys because they are so heart involved.. Odd you would bring up them not using their hearts......

    The blonds did warn me about disinfo being propagated about them, since the US gov and reptilians/greys hate them with a passion(well the reptiles with a passion, not so much the greys as they do not have passion). One scenario they told me about is there will be a hologram of a nordic during an abduction in the corner of the room, just so when the abductee speaks it seems like they are in on it too... They also said that there are blond humanoids who are not good beings that are used just because they look like a nordic... So maybe we are not speaking of the same race.
    Well, I can only speak from the standpoint of my own perceptions of course... Being that time is fluid I cannot say when this occurred, perhaps the timing could be a factor in why you find the concepts unbelievable?
    If I had heard it before I had experiences with the blonds I would be more open minded. But I'm not quite sure what you mean.

    Quote But to state "I find your post to be likely disinformation" seems rather a judgement call there Omniverse??!
    It is my opinion. We all judge information as we come across it. I did say "likely". I could be wrong...

    Quote And I think generalising an entire race would be inadvisable, be they Grey, White, Reptilian or Nordic.
    There for sure is diversity among races. But it seems to me the further a race evolves and progresses, the more similar they become to each other in their core beliefs and moral substance. Also I have heard some reptilian races kill off the newborns who have traits they do not desire. Hive minded by the very meaning the the words is reptilian and grey in general IMHO. So in general I disagree and agree with your sentiments. It wouldn't be wise to generalize a whole race to certain things, especially not a human race, as humans seem to be more diverse than reptilians or greys. But hive minded races are very similar to each other and the conditioning from birth leads me to believe they are often similar in their core morals and beliefs unless they are a young race. As young races are more confused, and not as united as older races. Granted reptile ETs is a subject I am not an expert on.
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    Like others who have posted i would like to have spent more time responding to the OP. but i am heading out soon.

    As the grey's lack the emotional make up that humans have. I say it would be impossible for them to feel any hate as it impossible for them to feel love, happiness, sadness. ect.

    As with many ET.s who vibrate at a lower light frequency. they are mostly indifferent towards humans. neither hating or loving them.
    I want to say more. That will do for now.

    peace.

    PS. Also universal beings who vibrate at a higher light frequency but from a human perspective may not look very bonny (nice looking) in our eyes, Definitely have the ability to show true love and care towards humans. This was my early experiences.
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    Thank you dear Limor.. the conversation (exchange) we maintain is important. I can not put into words that which you do so wonderfully.

    Yes! I agree.. for consciousness to be full and ripe and effective it must "as-is" what it sees. We are the observer and the change agent. So where we find horror, manipulation, cruelty, and all that is being revealed by the stripping away of the veils.. we are called to be respondsable. If we turn away, if we deny, if we pass it on to another then we are reacting in fear or judgement. However if we stand still, hold Presence, if we can encompass that which disturbs in our own expanded consciousness we fundamentally change paradigms.

    My creed and call seems to keep my focus on all the dynamic levels.. so very much in accord I keep in my consciousness that we are the interface of the physical reality and if above then so below. There is great truth in BE the change you want to see.

    Quote Posted by Limor (here)
    I can't put into words that which Christine does so very well we do ineed have a tendency to catagorize and sort data which may fit into the only 'data base' we know and are familiar and programmed with, that is sometimes a rather limited and enclosed area of our perception, but there is and needs to be, imo, a paradigm of good and bad behaviour (emphasis on behaviour) which is more 'zoomed in' and practicaly oriented than the overall spiritual acceptence of everything and everyone as consciousness, or maybe it will be more accurate to say that both understandings need to lay side by side and complement one another.

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    Like others who have posted i would like to have spent more time responding to the OP. but i am heading out soon.

    As the grey's lack the emotional make up that humans have. I say it would be impossible for them to feel any hate as it impossible for them to feel love, happiness, sadness. ect.

    As with many ET.s who vibrate at a lower light frequency. they are mostly indifferent towards humans. neither hating or loving them.
    I want to say more. That will do for now.

    peace.
    They can share the same opinion even though they do not feel hate. Kind of like how someone says "I hate tomatos", yet they do not feel hate. Also a grey CAN feel emotions via mind control. They just don't have the capacity to feel them naturally.

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    In my contact experiences I've asked about god plenty of times, and every type of ET I have spoken to treads lightly(at first) but says they are atheist. They wouldn't ever dream of pushing their beliefs on others, but the blond ETs I spoke to said they are vegan atheists. They also said that believing in God is a genetic trait. One implanted into us because we were ruled by 'the gods' and being humble (in a bad way) was desired. Maybe this is controversial of me to post... I apologize to anyone who I may offend. I know atheism isn't exactly popular, but I believe it is where our path will take us as well.

    Getting into the reasons they are atheist..... After viewing the flaws of the universe, it becomes quite evident they have said that this universe was not designed by one supreme being. For example some races suffered nuclear holocausts and screwed their race and planet forever basically...... Would a god allow that?

    Once a race like ours has access to the vast archives of the allied races (the nice ones who would let us mosey through their archives), studying religion leads one to see that often primitive races believe in all sorts of God(s), plural or non. Some religions are very odd they have said. I agree, very odd indeed. We have one on earth that believes a guy was nailed to a cross to save mankind... If that isn't odd I don't know what is...

    Another big reason is that there has been no contact by such a God throughout the history of the universe. I term ETs angels and demons at times. For example Nordics, the blonds, are angels(Any race that is benevolent, advanced, and very evolved is a angel race IMHO). And greys/reptilians are vastly demons/fallen angels(sorry but greys do not have our best interests at heart, in fact they HATE humans in reality IMHO). Kind of ironic to have atheist angels.... lol. Anyway, basically the 'angels', have no contact with god, and never have. Anyone telling you otherwise was lied to IMHO. And its quite a big secret this one, so I expect lots of lies shrouded around this topic to contactees...

    ETs have told me that science will eventually merge with spirituality in a natural progression of a race like ours and our primitive beliefs about God will fade away...

    And to end this post, the blond ones have made it clear they are very spiritual. They just aren't religious...
    It would probably depend on how you define "God". If you described it as infinite intelligence that is the source of all being, rather than some particular supreme entity that lords over all creation like some kind of tyrant, they might have a different answer. Ask them instead if they believe there is a source of all being and all creation that is inextricably connected to all living beings in creation. If they still say no, ask them if there is intelligence and intentionality behind creation at a fundamental level, and if so, what would they call that?

    I would wager that the god they don't believe in is simply our crude depictions of god based on ET imposters. Take Yahweh, for instance. He is self-described as a "jealous god". That is exactly what Hindus and Buddhists would call an Asura....Asuras are the jealous gods. 4d self serving pricks posing as the Source. Whenever any being residing on a spaceship presents themselves as the creator of the universe, you can be sure they are full of it.

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    It would probably depend on how you define "God". If you described it as infinite intelligence that is the source of all being, rather than some particular supreme entity that lords over all creation like some kind of tyrant, they might have a different answer. Ask them instead if they believe there is a source of all being and all creation that is inextricably connected to all living beings in creation. If they still say no, ask them if there is intelligence and intentionality behind creation at a fundamental level, and if so, what would they call that?
    I actually cannot talk to them anymore due to the US gov threatening to do certain things to me and my family if they kept talking to me... Unfortunately...

    Quote I would wager that the god they don't believe in is simply our crude depictions of god based on ET imposters. Take Yahweh, for instance. He is self-described as a "jealous god". That is exactly what Hindus and Buddhists would call an Asura....Asuras are the jealous gods. 4d self serving pricks posing as the Source. Whenever any being residing on a spaceship presents themselves as the creator of the universe, you can be sure they are full of it.
    Well they meant a conscious supreme being who created the universe as in they do not believe that. You can still believe in a more cosmic version of God and be atheist. In that way the word God is more a metaphor IMHO. And I wasn't able to get their views on things like 'the force' unless that memory is being nulled(which does happen from time to time with me).

    Quote Whenever any being residing on a spaceship presents themselves as the creator of the universe, you can be sure they are full of it.
    LOL For sure.

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