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    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    Wormtongue just made themselves visible in #Israel

    "Sharon’s chief advisor, Dov Weisglass describe siege as "‘an appointment with dietician. Palestinians will get a lot thinner, but won’t die’"

    I'm calling all sleuthers to give me everything they can find on who he bows to...

    ever heard of the false prophet... we're getting closer...

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    Hey Rocky,

    That's a well known quote from 2006 mate.

    Weisglass denies he ever said it (was in a private meeting). But really, is he going to admit to that in public?

    For those interested:
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/apr/16/israel
    http://electronicintifada.net/conten...iet-gaza/11810

    And on the Disengagement Plan:
    http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...ocess-1.136686
    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2004/10/isr-o09.html

    Weisglass = Sharon, Peres (who lives next door to him), Powell, Condoleezza Rice, Yossi Ginosaur, Muhammad Rashid (aka Khaled Salam), Arafat and many more. Major "mover and shaker" with fingers in different pies.

    If you're after background on Weisglass' thinking read this (exceptional for background on Sharon in 2004 & the thinking behind the Israeli Disengagement Plan):
    http://www.jmcc.org/Documentsandmaps.aspx?id=698

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    I've written that the resumption of rocket launches from Gaza by Hamas was in response to Israel's Operation Brothers Keeper. I've also made reference that Hamas had not broken the 2012 ceasefire agreement until the 30th June launches in response to Israel's detention of (depending on sources) between 330 & 566 (and 6 dead) Palestinians in the West Bank by 26th June. These detentions were allegedly to do with finding the Hamas militants responsible for the slaughter of the 3 Israeli-Jewish youths.

    There have been varying reports from Israeli Police that they know the official line (that Hamas organised the kidnapping & slaughter) is incorrect (source more detailed report here). In other words Netanyahu *& his associates lied to incite hatred and justify Israel going into another assault on Gaza. That's right, I'm actually not a loony...

    Just to show that there had not been a break of the ceasefire by Hamas until Operation Brothers Keeper had been running for over a week I'll refer to this article from The Times Of Israel.

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    Hamas fires rockets for first time since 2012, Israeli officials say
    By Avi Issacharoff & Times Of Israel Staff. June 30th, 2014, 1:40 pm



    Volley that hit near southern communities Monday may have been launched by terror group to warn Israel against targeting its members

    Haamas operatives were behind a large volley of rockets which slammed into Israel Monday morning, the first time in years the Islamist group has directly challenged the Jewish state, according to Israeli defense officials.

    At least 16 rockets were fired at Israel Monday morning, most of them hitting open areas in the Eshkol region, the army said.

    The security sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, assessed that Hamas had probably launched the barrage in revenge for an Israeli airstrike several hours earlier which killed one person and injured three more.

    A member of Hamas’s militant wing was killed in the attack, Gaza health official Ashraf al-Kidra said.

    While Israel has maintained it holds Hamas responsible for all rocket attacks, officials have said that smaller groups, such as Islamic Jihad, are usually behind the rocket attacks, while Hamas squads generally attempt to thwart the rocket fire.

    Hamas hasn’t fired rockets into Israel since Operation Pillar of Defense ended in November 2012, and has yet to take responsibility for this latest barrage.

    The group fired hundred of rockets at Israel over eight days during Operation Pillar of Defense in 2012, as Israel carried out punishing strikes on the Palestinian enclave.

    Officials said Monday’s rocket attacks, which appeared to deliberately target Israeli communities close to the border with the Gaza Strip, may have been intended to warn Israel against targeting Hamas operatives.

    The army said in a statement that the Sunday night air raid was targeting terrorists “in the southern Gaza Strip, during​ their final preparations to launch rockets at civilian communities of southern Israel.”

    “Hamas is responsible for the outrageous attacks originating from Gaza, and will be pursued as such,” IDF spokesman Lt. Col. Peter Lerner said.

    The air force attack on Khan Younis Sunday night came minutes after Palestinians in the coastal enclave fired a volley of rockets at southwestern Israel. The Iron Dome defense system shot down two of the projectiles — Grad rockets — over Netivot. There were no reports of injury or damage in the rocket attack.

    Early Sunday morning, air force planes struck 12 sites in Gaza in response to rockets fired over the weekend. Two rockets hit the town of Sderot, close to the border with Gaza, late Saturday, causing a massive fire that destroyed a paint factory.

    The latest series of attacks comes amid an escalation in hostilities along Israel’s border with the Gaza Strip, as IDF troops scour the West Bank for three missing Israeli teenagers.

    Israel has accused Hamas, which rules the Strip, of abducting the teens on June 12 and named two Hamas men as the suspected perpetrators.

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    As for claims that this is all a Jewish conspiracy...

    Someone forgot to tell the Israeli 'Rabbis for Human Rights' (RHR) who every year protect olive farmers in the West Bank from Settlers attacking them and their groves.

    That's right. In IDF/Netanyahu language, these rabbis are acting as 'human shields'.

    More power to them.

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    Extremist Settlers Clash With Rabbis Over Palestinian Olive Groves on West Bank
    By Reuters. Published July 25, 2014



    Human Rights Activists Act as Harvest 'Human Shields'

    Jewish settlers clashed with activists of the Rabbis for Human Rights movement near the West Bank city of Hebron on Friday as they protected Palestinians beginning the annual olive harvest.

    Israeli police and soldiers grappled with settlers who tried to drive off local Palestinians and international supporters of Palestinian rights in the West Bank.

    “This is just the beginning of the olive harvest which will be going on for the next two months,” said the executive director of Rabbis for Human Rights, Arik Ascherman.

    He said activists were going to 40 Palestinian villages to protect olive growers and uphold their right to work the land, and harvest. They would act “as human shields” if necessary.

    A settler woman screamed “Murderer, murderer” at the rabbi, and settlers angrily shouted down any activists trying to explain their aims to TV reporters.

    The West Bank olive harvest has developed over the past decade into a regular confrontation between Palestinian farmers and Israelis who have settled on nearby land.

    Palestinians say settler harassment often turns to encroachment and eventually seizure of more land in the name of settler “security”.

    “There are those who say all the land of Israel belongs only to the Jewish people,” Ascherman said. “Everybody knows these are Palestinian-owned trees.”

    “It’s unfortunate that some people so filled with mistaken religious fervor are choosing to insult, be violent, trying to steal the olives.”

    The settlers say they want a secure route from the settlement through the olive grove, to a cave regarded as a Jewish holy site.

    “The settlers would like to make a path … as part of their effort to create facts on the ground,” Ascherman said. “They’ve been trying to create this outpost here to take more and more Palestinian land.”

    Rabbis For Human Rights said in a statement that delegations also joined Palestinians for the olive harvest near Nablus, “where there is a long history of the army preventing agricultural work”.

    “In several locations olives have already been stolen in recent weeks, and this year’s harvest will be all the more difficult because of the recent wave of settler violence,” the group said.

    Its members would “work to insure that Israeli security forces meet their obligations under international law and the ruling of the Israeli High Court”, the statement added.

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    Amazing image of the destruction in Beit Hanoun...



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    Images of destruction in Shajaia, showing "precise targeting" of "surgical operation", taken during 12 hour ceasefire:









    Yet life goes on:







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    UNRWA: 162,862 displaced in 83 shelters with more than 80 people sharing one classroom in some of them, adding even more stress to already traumatized families (source).

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    These photos speak a million words.............. quite heart breaking.

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    Images of destruction in Shajaia, showing "precise targeting" of "surgical operation", taken during 12 hour ceasefire:









    Yet life goes on:







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    More than 80 corpses have been pulled from the rubble in Gaza since the temporary ceasefire came into effect almost 7 hours ago.

    Palestinian death toll is now more than 1000 with many more thought to be under the rubble. At least 80% are thought to have been civilians.

    Israeli death toll 37 with 2 civilians.

    Oxfam reports that '44% of Gaza territory has now been declared areas that people must leave. The remaining 56% is also dangerous and faces frequent airstrikes'.

    At just past the half way mark the 12 hour "ceasefire" has held so far. Israel has continued its "tunnel destroying mission" and retained troops and tanks in many areas so really its just that Hamas & co hasn't any rockets, the IDF has stopped bombing/shelling Gaza and the IDF snipers are having a break...

    Over night the IDF once again accidentally targeted a hospital in Beit Hanoun with shelling (source) & reports have come in that tanks have been stationed near there leaving many emergency workers concerned for their safety.

    Beit Hanoun Hospital:



    More images from Beit Hanoun:







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    Saw this photo-report on hurried burials during Gaza ceasefire from NBC's FC Ayman Mohyeldin:

    Quote uly 26, 2014 | Shejaiya, Gaza. An open lot of land is converted to a cemetery allowing for people to bury relatives. There is no time for proper burials here. Bodies are buried and their graves marked with cinder blocks from bombed out buildings nearby. In the distance, people frantically dig to make more space for more dead bodies. A steady stream of bodies was coming from several hospital so quickly that families had to wait in the shade until their graves were dug up.


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    When this will be over, will the leaders of USA and Israel be condemned for the crimes against humanity? I somehow highly doubt it... There is no justification for this, I am ashamed of the international community, if I ever had any respect for them then all of it is now totally gone. Thankfully many people seem to be seeing through the lies and many will wake up soon.
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    The other day I quickly referenced a favourite site of mine in a post and didn't say anything about it so here's a bit on:

    Active Stills.

    Active Stills is a collective of documentary photographers who take many of the pictures from within Palestinian and Israeli crowds, demonstrations, rallies and riots, that are published around the world. There are also Active Still members that travel and take photos in other parts of the world, but they work with protesters and protest groups where ever they are.

    Put simply, they are activists who take photos to show the truth of a situation as seen through the lens of a camera.

    The photo the other day I dissected about the anti-war rally in Israel was one of theirs (the one with the bloke wearing the neo-nazi shirt).

    Anyway, here's a few of their photos from the last few days in the West Bank:













    Photo of a displaced families "house" @ as-Shifa Hospital in Gaza (24-07-14)



    Here's a less than 4 minute video from Forward on them (article here):


    Source: Watch on Vimeo


    Source: http://vimeo.com/100649708

    Their online gallery is available here (be aware that the 21,000 images is growing rapidly ):
    http://www.activestills.org/theme.php

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    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    When this will be over, will the leaders of USA and Israel be condemned for the crimes against humanity? I somehow highly doubt it... There is no justification for this, I am ashamed of the international community, if I ever had any respect for them then all of it is now totally gone. Thankfully many people seem to be seeing through the lies and many will wake up soon.
    If I were a betting man I'd reckon they are trying to extend it to a ceasefire agreement around the 5th of August. Might not be able to justify continued action until then but probably will try to get a temporary truce and then negotiate a full ceasefire agreement which doesn't kick in until closer to then (ie 7 day prelude ceasefire starting around the 29th with Israel continuing to demolish tunnels). That is unless they are planning to do something else to remember the 5th or their plans go astray...

    All the US, Israel, UN negotiations & UNHRC special hearing are a pantomime that are there to distract. Hamas, IJ & the factions are not very good at all this (though Abbas was a very fast study -- probably had lessons from Arafat, Chavez & Gaddafi).







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    Another heart breaking photo from Gaza during the temporary ceasefire.

    Quote July 26, 2014 | Shejaiya Cemetery, Gaza. Relatives frantically digging graves in an open lot being used as a cemetery. The stream of bodies was too fast for gravediggers to keep up with number of bodies being brought from nearby hospitals. The graves were being marked with cinder blocks from the rubble of nearby buildings destroyed by Israeli shelling. All that identifies where the dead are buried are the pieces of hand-written cardboard.


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    Right, I'm off for a bit, but here's a really good article I came across a couple of hours ago that may help those who are still having trouble with the "accepted" view of what we are told to think. It's quite long and if you've been reading this thread it covers a lot of what I've been talking about so just skip bits if you are getting bogged down. The article has further links that are inserted at the end but please follow this link for the original.

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    Five Israeli Talking Points on Gaza—Debunked
    Noura Erakat July 25, 2014



    Israel claims that it is merely exercising its right to self-defense and that Gaza is no longer occupied. Here’s what you need to know about these talking points and more.

    Israel has killed almost 800 Palestinians in the past twenty-one days in the Gaza Strip alone; its onslaught continues. The UN estimates that more than 74 percent of those killed are civilians. That is to be expected in a population of 1.8 million where the number of Hamas members is approximately 15,000. Israel does not deny that it killed those Palestinians using modern aerial technology and precise weaponry courtesy of the world’s only superpower. In fact, it does not even deny that they are civilians.

    Israel’s propaganda machine, however, insists that these Palestinians wanted to die (“culture of martyrdom [1]”), staged their own death (“telegenically dead [2]”) or were the tragic victims of Hamas’s use of civilian infrastructure for military purposes (“human shielding [3]”). In all instances, the military power is blaming the victims for their own deaths, accusing them of devaluing life and attributing this disregard to cultural bankruptcy. In effect, Israel—along with uncritical mainstream media that unquestionably accept this discourse—dehumanizes Palestinians, deprives them even of their victimhood and legitimizes egregious human rights and legal violations.

    This is not the first time. The gruesome images of decapitated children’s bodies and stolen innocence on Gaza’s shores are a dreadful repeat of Israel’s assault on Gaza in November 2012 and winter 2008–09. Not only are the military tactics the same but so too are the public relations efforts and the faulty legal arguments that underpin the attacks. Mainstream media news anchors [4] are inexplicably accepting these arguments as fact.

    Below I address five of Israel’s recurring talking points. I hope this proves useful to newsmakers.

    1) Israel is exercising its right to self-defense.

    As the occupying power of the Gaza Strip, and the Palestinian Territories more broadly, Israel has an obligation and a duty [5] to protect the civilians under its occupation. It governs by military and law enforcement authority to maintain order, protect itself and protect the civilian population under its occupation. It cannot simultaneously occupy the territory, thus usurping the self-governing powers that would otherwise belong to Palestinians, and declare war upon them. These contradictory policies (occupying a land and then declaring war on it) make the Palestinian population doubly vulnerable.

    The precarious and unstable conditions in the Gaza Strip from which Palestinians suffer are Israel’s responsibility. Israel argues that it can invoke the right to self-defense [5] under international law as defined in Article 51 of the UN Charter. The International Court of Justice, however, rejected this faulty legal interpretation in its 2004 Advisory Opinion [6]. The ICJ explained that an armed attack that would trigger Article 51 must be attributable to a sovereign state, but the armed attacks by Palestinians emerge from within Israel’s jurisdictional control. Israel does have the right to defend itself against rocket attacks, but it must do so in accordance with occupation law and not other laws of war. Occupation law ensures greater protection for the civilian population. The other laws of war balance military advantage and civilian suffering. The statement that “no country would tolerate rocket fire from a neighboring country” is therefore both a diversion and baseless.

    Israel denies Palestinians the right to govern and protect themselves, while simultaneously invoking the right to self-defense. This is a conundrum and a violation of international law, one that Israel deliberately created to evade accountability [7].

    2) Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005.

    Israel argues that its occupation of the Gaza Strip ended with the unilateral withdrawal of its settler population in 2005. It then declared the Gaza Strip to be “hostile territory” and declared war against its population. Neither the argument nor the statement is tenable [8]. Despite removing 8,000 settlers and the military infrastructure that protected their illegal presence, Israel maintained effective control of the Gaza Strip and thus remains the occupying power as defined by Article 47 of the Hague Regulations. To date, Israel maintains control of the territory’s air space, territorial waters, electromagnetic sphere, population registry and the movement of all goods and people.

    Israel argues that the withdrawal from Gaza demonstrates that ending the occupation will not bring peace. Some have gone so far as to say that Palestinians squandered their opportunity to build heaven [9] in order to build a terrorist haven instead. These arguments aim to obfuscate Israel’s responsibilities in the Gaza Strip, as well as the West Bank. As Prime Minister Netanyahu once explained, Israel must ensure that it does not “get another Gaza in Judea and Samaria…. I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan [10].”

    Palestinians have yet to experience a day of self-governance. Israel immediately imposed a siege upon the Gaza Strip when Hamas won parliamentary elections in January 2006 and tightened it severely when Hamas routed Fatah in June 2007. The siege has created a “humanitarian catastrophe [11]” in the Gaza Strip. Inhabitants will not be able to access clean water, electricity or tend to even the most urgent medical needs. The World Health Organization explains that the Gaza Strip will be unlivable [12] by 2020. Not only did Israel not end its occupation, it has created a situation in which Palestinians cannot survive in the long-term.

    3) This Israeli operation, among others, was caused by rocket fire from Gaza.

    Israel claims that its current and past wars against the Palestinian population in Gaza have been in response to rocket fire. Empirical evidence from 2008, 2012 and 2014 refute that claim. First, according to Israel’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs [13], the greatest reduction of rocket fire came through diplomatic rather than military means. This chart [14] demonstrates the correlation between Israel’s military attacks upon the Gaza Strip and Hamas militant activity. Hamas rocket fire increases in response to Israeli military attacks and decreases in direct correlation to them. Cease-fires have brought the greatest security to the region.

    During the four months of the Egyptian-negotiated cease-fire in 2008, Palestinian militants reduced the number of rockets to zero or single digits from the Gaza Strip. Despite this relative security and calm, Israel broke the cease-fire [15] to begin the notorious aerial and ground offensive that killed 1,400 Palestinians in twenty-two days. In November 2012, Israel’s extrajudicial assassination of Ahmad Jabari [15], the chief of Hamas’s military wing in Gaza, while he was reviewing terms for a diplomatic solution, again broke the cease-fire that precipitated the eight-day aerial offensive that killed 132 Palestinians.

    Immediately preceding Israel’s most recent operation, Hamas rocket and mortar attacks did not threaten Israel. Israel deliberately provoked this war [16] with Hamas. Without producing a shred of evidence, it accused the political faction of kidnapping and murdering three settlers near Hebron. Four weeks and almost 700 lives later, Israel has yet to produce any evidence demonstrating Hamas’s involvement. During ten days of Operation Brother’s Keeper [17] in the West Bank, Israel arrested approximately 800 Palestinians without charge or trial, killed nine civilians and raided nearly 1,300 residential, commercial and public buildings. Its military operation targeted Hamas members released during the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange [18] in 2011. It’s these Israeli provocations that precipitated the Hamas rocket fire to which Israel claims left it with no choice but a gruesome military operation.

    4) Israel avoids civilian casualties, but Hamas aims to kill civilians.

    Hamas has crude weapons technology that lacks any targeting capability. As such, Hamas rocket attacks ipso facto violate the principle of distinction because all of its attacks are indiscriminate. This is not contested. Israel, however, would not be any more tolerant of Hamas if it strictly targeted military objects, as we have witnessed of late. Israel considers Hamas and any form of its resistance, armed or otherwise, to be illegitimate.

    In contrast, Israel has the eleventh most-powerful military in the world, certainly the strongest by far in the Middle East, and is a nuclear power that has not ratified the non-proliferation agreement and has precise weapons technology. With the use of drones, F-16s and an arsenal of modern weapon technology, Israel has the ability to target single individuals and therefore to avoid civilian casualties. But rather than avoid them, Israel has repeatedly targeted civilians as part of its military operations.

    The Dahiya Doctrine [19] is central to these operations and refers to Israel’s indiscriminate attacks on Lebanon in 2006. Maj. Gen. Gadi Eizenkot said [20] that this would be applied elsewhere:

    Quote What happened in the Dahiya quarter of Beirut in 2006 will happen in every village from which Israel is fired on. […] We will apply disproportionate force on it and cause great damage and destruction there. From our standpoint, these are not civilian villages, they are military bases [21].
    Israel has kept true to this promise. The 2009 UN Fact-Finding Mission to the Gaza Conflict, better known as the Goldstone Mission [22], concluded “from a review of the facts on the ground that it witnessed for itself that what was prescribed as the best strategy [Dahiya Doctrine] appears to have been precisely what was put into practice.”

    According to the National Lawyers Guild, Physicians for Human Rights-Israel, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, Israel directly targeted civilians or recklessly caused civilian deaths during Operation Cast Lead. Far from avoiding the deaths of civilians, Israel effectively considers them legitimate targets.

    5) Hamas hides its weapons in homes, mosques and schools and uses human shields.

    This is arguably one of Israel’s most insidious claims, because it blames Palestinians for their own death and deprives them of even their victimhood. Israel made the same argument in its war against Lebanon in 2006 [24] and in its war against Palestinians in 2008 [25]. Notwithstanding its military cartoon sketches [26], Israel has yet to prove that Hamas has used civilian infrastructure to store military weapons [27]. The two cases where Hamas indeed stored weapons in UNRWA schools [28], the schools were empty. UNRWA discovered the rockets and publicly condemned the violation of its sanctity.

    International human rights organizations that have investigated these claims have determined that they are not true [25]. It attributed the high death toll in Israel’s 2006 war on Lebanon to Israel’s indiscriminate attacks. Human Rights Watch [24] notes:

    Quote The evidence Human Rights Watch uncovered in its on-the-ground investigations refutes [Israel’s] argument…we found strong evidence that Hezbollah stored most of its rockets in bunkers and weapon storage facilities located in uninhabited fields and valleys, that in the vast majority of cases Hezbollah fighters left populated civilian areas as soon as the fighting started, and that Hezbollah fired the vast majority of its rockets from pre-prepared positions outside villages.
    In fact, only Israeli soldiers [29] have systematically used Palestinians as human shields. Since Israel’s incursion into the West Bank in 2002, it has used Palestinians as human shields by tying young Palestinians onto the hoods of their cars [30] or forcing them to go into a home [31] where a potential militant may be hiding.

    Even assuming that Israel’s claims were plausible, humanitarian law obligates Israel to avoid civilian casualties that “would be excessive [32] in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated.” A belligerent force must verify whether civilian or civilian infrastructure qualifies as a military objective. In the case of doubt, “whether an object which is normally dedicated to civilian purposes, such as a place of worship, a house or other dwelling or a school, is being used to make an effective contribution to military action, it shall be presumed not to be so used [33].”

    In the over thee weeks of its military operation, Israel has demolished 3,175 homes, at least a dozen with families inside; destroyed five hospitals and six clinics; partially damaged sixty-four mosques and two churches; partially to completely destroyed eight government ministries; injured 4,620; and killed over 700 Palestinians. At plain sight, these numbers indicate Israel’s egregious violations of humanitarian law, ones that amount to war crimes.

    Beyond the body count and reference to law, which is a product of power, the question to ask is, What is Israel’s end goal? What if Hamas and Islamic Jihad dug tunnels beneath the entirety of the Gaza Strip—they clearly did not, but let us assume they did for the sake of argument. According to Israel’s logic, all of Gaza’s 1.8 million Palestinians are therefore human shields for being born Palestinian in Gaza. The solution is to destroy the 360-kilometer square strip of land and to expect a watching world to accept this catastrophic loss as incidental. This is possible only by framing and accepting the dehumanization of Palestinian life. Despite the absurdity of this proposal, it is precisely what Israeli society is urging its military leadership to do. Israel cannot bomb Palestinians into submission, and it certainly cannot bomb them into peace.

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    Links:
    [1] http://www.haaretz.com/news/video/1.604544
    [2] http://forward.com/articles/202436/n...telegenically/
    [3] http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2014/s4045856.htm
    [4] http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/20...ane-situation/
    [5] http://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index...-self-defense-
    [6] http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index....ase=131%26p3=4
    [7] mailto:http://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index...-self-defense-
    [8] http://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index...does-it-matter
    [9] http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.605297
    [10] http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanya...#ixzz38DxNdBv8
    [11] http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...rael-palestine
    [12] http://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-...liveable-place
    [13] http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpol...-jul-2008.aspx
    [14] http://blog.thejerusalemfund.org/201...ined-what.html
    [15] http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/17/op...on.html%3F_r=0
    [16] http://972mag.com/how-netanyahu-prov...th-gaza/93200/
    [17] http://imeu.org/article/israels-west-bank-crackdown
    [18] http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...s-say-1.389404
    [19] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine
    [20] http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-file...FMGCReport.pdf
    [21] http://www.jpost.com/Features/Front-...nock-out-punch
    [22] http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies...-HRC-12-48.pdf
    [23] https://subscribe.thenation.com/serv...e_key=I12SART1
    [24] http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/fil...ebanon0907.pdf
    [25] https://www.amnesty.org/fr/library/a...212009eng.html
    [26] http://www.idfblog.com/blog/2014/07/...fortress-gaza/
    [27] http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/milita...-hospital.html
    [28] http://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-...rockets-school
    [29] http://www.jeremiahhaber.com/2009/07...onies-use.html
    [30] http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/0...as-shields-un/
    [31] http://www.hrw.org/news/2010/11/26/i...eld-inadequate
    [32] http://www.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.n...2563cd0051dd7c
    [33] http://www.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.n...2563cd0051dcd4
    [34] http://www.thenation.com/article/180...shifa-hospital
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    Here's the author of the above article (only just saw this) and she really takes it to the Israeli lawyers arguments in this PBS News hour report.


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    Quote Posted by panopticon (here)
    ... here's a really good article I came across a couple of hours ago that may help those who are still having trouble with the "accepted" view of what we are told to think. It's quite long and if you've been reading this thread it covers a lot of what I've been talking about so just skip bits if you are getting bogged down. The article has further links that are inserted at the end but please follow this link for the original.
    Excellent article.
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    A poignant report from veteran reporter Jon Snow, just back from
    a brief visit to Gaza......



    The children of Gaza I Channel 4 News




    Published on 26 Jul 2014


    Jon Snow recounts the scene in Gaza's al-Shifa hospital, where
    doctors struggle to treat adults and children wounded by Israeli attacks
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    In Germany, the citizens said that they didn’t know of the horrors that were occurring at the concentration camps. Some people believed this claim of innocence, some didn’t. In Israel, anyone and everyone knows exactly what is going on in Gaza. Photographs of the atrocities pour out onto the internet by the hour. Everyone there knows what is going on, and so very many of them continue to support it.

    All the world’s foreign ministers and secretaries of state know what is happening in Palestine. There are, thankfully, some voices of protest, from the socialist Latin American block and other places, but the West gives Israel their blessing – no matter what. No matter their chemical weapons, their DIME and white phosphorous, no matter their nuclear weapons stockpile, no matter their murder of activists and protesters. No matter anything. The international criminal court too, knows what is going on, but they fail to issue any kind of warrant or accusation against Israel.

    John Kerry hasn’t uttered a syllable of condemnation and continues to provide the staunchest of political cover for Israel while they do their killing. He should resign. Not even with a pile of 1000 Palestinian corpses, just across the border from his location in Egypt, does he consider the possibility that he should drop his support for the Zionists and their actions. Meanwhile the republican opposition complains that Israel is not being supported enough. The mantra of Israel defending itself is like some kind of eternal echo bouncing around Washington. I wonder how many people Israel would have to slaughter before someone at the state department gave a frown?

    Anyone following this disaster on twitter has been witnessing the most appalling, distressing, depressing stream of photographs pouring in, night after night. There was the one of the distraught father holding his infant in his arms, the back two thirds of the infant’s head completely missing. The photo of the boy in the ambulance with his dead father, perhaps too young to know what was exactly happening, but the people put him there so he could somehow say goodbye before the burial. The rows of corpses of entire families lined up at the hospital. The doctors crying after one of their own colleagues has been killed. And yet nothing here, nothing at all, is considered to be any kind of crime whatsoever. There is no outrage like there has been for Syria, no, just constant approval for Israel. Preaching to the converted on this thread, I know.

    There is another kind of photo which you see too, in amongst the death. Those are the photos (and videos) of the happy Israelis, like the one right at the start of this thread. Some thought this wasn’t possibly real, or wasn’t what it seemed to be. Well, now that we know it is real, hopefully some more people will wake up. For, this is the very illustration of Zionism, which is a racist ideology that enables the most grotesque atrocities to be committed without a hint of contrition. What do Netanyahu, Kerry and Cameron, all from different parties and countries, all have in common? They are all ardent Zionists, and they all strongly support the actions that lead to this mass murder.

    Supporting Zionism, the Jewish domination of Palestine, is no different than supporting Nazism and the creation of an Aryan state in Europe. The fight against Zionism is no less honourable than the fight against Nazism, and to succumb to, accept or appease Zionism is no less unfortunate and regrettable. The fight against Zionism needs to continue, and while the Palestinians need to be armed, supported and defended, the resistance needs to be a global one. Demand to know if your local representative or candidate is a Zionist, and if they are, or they fail to deny it, let them know this is why you will not be voting for them. Associate their names with the genocide that is occurring in Palestine, for they are the upholders of the ideology. Demand that the resistance factions be taken off the list of terrorist organisations, or that the IDF joins them, for no other arrangement is consistent. And, of course, boycott Israel in any way that you can, in the same spirit that South Africa was boycotted not so long ago.

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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    A poignant report from veteran reporter Jon Snow, just back from
    a brief visit to Gaza......

    The children of Gaza I Channel 4 News


    Published on 26 Jul 2014

    Jon Snow recounts the scene in Gaza's al-Shifa hospital, where
    doctors struggle to treat adults and children wounded by Israeli attacks
    G'day Steve,

    Exceptional video from Jon Snow.

    He has really been at the vanguard of pro-Palestinian reporting on the latest assault. I say pro-Palestinian reporting so as to differentiate with the way Israeli Government proponents try to dichotomise discussion around this (ie they try to make the discussion about people being either pro-Israel or Anti-Israel [which they then auto-magically translate into "pro-terrorist"]).

    There was an excellent article the other day I linked to about how social media was militarised by Israel and how this has affected the way in which people view this and previous assaults.

    I also read another article that I didn't link to that talks about how reporters have always been witnesses to events and now are able to relate, in real-time, what they see and feel during the "event". This has changed the way in which many people frame this assault. Here's an excerpt from that article:

    Quote A foreign correspondent uses her phone after four Palestinian boys were killed by Israeli shelling in front of hotel where many reporters were staying.

    Shortly after Israel began its ground invasion of Gaza, Anne Barnard, a New York Times reporter who has covered wars for over a decade, stood in the emergency room of the Al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City and watched a 9-year-old girl die.

    The girl was alone, without family, nameless. And when the doctor finally pronounced her dead, Barnard and another reporter wept.

    And then she tweeted:
    ...

    Israel faces a challenge now that it never dealt with in the pre-Twitter age, when the constructs of journalism actually helped mitigate the strength of that first overwhelming response that any reporter — any human being — would have to a situation of death and destruction. Newspaper articles strive toward an unemotional style, with editors cutting out anything that might hint at bias. We can see the difference if you look at the way Barnard’s experience with the dying girl at Al-Shifa made it into her story (co-bylined with Isabel Kershner) about the battle in the neighborhood of Shejaiya. A paragraph toward the bottom of the article, after much context — including an explanation of the fighting by an Israeli government official — described the scene in a much more muted way in a few economical sentences (“They covered her with a white sheet, and she was gone”). Nowhere near the raw emotional impact of her tweet.
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    It is widely reported that Israel has lost the online "war". It is difficult to present an argument that is lacking in fact and relies on emotive responses within the written medium. It is also very difficult in that medium to not have "half-truths" and lies exposed for what they are...

    Many reporters are reporting via social media their thoughts, feelings, horror and frustration at what they are witnessing. Their reporting is edited (either by themselves or their editor) to be more appropriate for their target readership. That is why it is important to note small changes in the way they modify their depiction over time because they are re-framing the way in which their readership views the world (and in this case the assault). Of course if you really want to see how they feel then look at their various feeds. It's often very different to what they report in the conservative MSM (with the exception of reporters [mostly from "liberal" media outlets] like Snow, Miller, Fear and Beaumont to name only a few).

    BTW, I am proud to say that every time I read the first part of the above quote (including the accompanying image) I get a tear in my eye.

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    Notice that Tony Blair has been mysteriously absent from the ceasefire "negotiations"?

    He's a busy fella and doesn't have much time for such things, even if he is the Middle East Envoy for The Quartet (UN, EU, US & Russia) and is supposedly based in Jerusalem.

    Bit too busy young Tony having parties @ his country estate:





    Mind you, if he was there he'd probably do about as much good as Kerry...

    Here's what Barak Ravid said about Kerry:
    Quote If Kerry did anything on Friday it was to thwart the possibility of reaching a cease-fire in Gaza. Instead of promoting a cease-fire, Kerry pushed it away. If this failed diplomatic attempt leads Israel to escalate its operation in Gaza, the American secretary of state will be one of those responsible for every additional drop of blood that is spilled.
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    Sounds about right to me.

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