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    Daniel Ellsberg and Edward Snowden spoke today in NYC at hacker meet up


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    The idea of prosecuting someone for revealing evidence of a crime has an odd ring to it. Revealing evidence of a crime is, in fact, criminal. Daniel Ellsberg

    Being a patriot doesn't mean being obedient to authority. Oaths to authority are one of the most dangerous and corrosive things" If they expect us to stay silent [to massive violations of the Constitution], they shouldn't ask us to take the oath in the first place. " What we require, should encourage, are oaths to values. Edward Snowden

    (New York City, Hope X Conference - 7/19) Daniel Ellsberg and Edward Snowden spoke to overflowing conference halls at the Hope X (Hackers On Planet Earth) conference in New York City today. Sponsored by 2600, the hacker's quarterly magazine, the hot topics at this tenth annual conference concerned freedom of the press and fighting government intrusion into the lives of digital activists and the rest of us. (The two presentations will be available from the Hope X archives. I highly recommend getting the DVD, available from the 2600 website in 10-14 days.)

    Daniel Ellsberg was the conference keynote speaker. A former government official who leaked the explosive Pentagon Papers on the Viet Nam War, Ellsberg was billed as "the whistleblower of all whistleblowers" since he was the first government official to face prosecution for the common activity of leaking government information. He paid dearly for his efforts through FBI and other security agency harassment. However, his whistle blowing effectively undermined the political rationale for the Viet Nam War. Despite the harassment, Ellsberg remained a vigilant activist fighting for press freedom and transparency in government.

    Ellsberg was clearly comfortable with the setting and himself. He offered some incredible insights and helped create a special collective energy through his interactions with Edward Snowden. He also showed a sharp and insightful wit through humor, some of which was self-deprecating.

    Ellsberg started out with a point that can't be made often enough:

    The secrets of courts, like individuals, are always their defects.

    The Pentagon Papers revealed the known defects of conduct during the Viet Nam War. Forty years later, the material revealed by Chelsea Manning via Wikileaks, uncovered the defects of the War on Terror. Is it any wonder that the government goes after whistleblowers with a special vengeance?

    Ellsberg noted that he was the first government official prosecuted under the Espionage Act for non-espionage activity -leaking - and that it took forty years for another whistleblower to emerge with sufficient evidence of defects to warrant a similar prosecution/persecution. The revelations of that whistle blower, Chelsea Manning, had an impact on both the United States and Iraq. Ellsberg told the audience that Manning revelations on the treatment of Iraqi prisoners assured an earlier departure date from Iraq for United States troops.

    Ellsberg also offered his opinion on the intensity of actions against whistleblowers including Manning, Snowden, and Thomas Drake. Each of these individuals revealed evidence of criminal activity on the part of the government. Manning's revelations showed violations of the "Crimes Against Peace" clause of the Nuremberg Protocols.

    Snowden appeared live on a video feed from Russia, where he lives in asylum. As Snowden came on the video screens throughout Manhattan's Pennsylvania Hotel (that spilled over to Seventh Avenue in front of the hotel), Ellsberg was asked what he thought the first time he heard about Edward Snowden:

    Hope! I was pretty much losing hope that anyone " would put out what needed to be put out.

    Snowden immediately acknowledged Ellsberg as one of his key inspirations and thanked him for his service in and out of government. While they've never met in person, this virtual meeting was a clearly a very poignant moment between two of the very few people who had the courage to stand up to those who pervert the power of the United States

    Ellsberg asked Snowden: "What did you have in mind when you did what you did?"

    Snowden responded by stressing that "the key thing is that technology empowers dissent." He noted that from Ellsberg's Xerox machine to the power of high tech and the Internet, technology has " fundamentally changed the way we relate to government and the way government relates to us." He noted that the vigor and viciousness of the government pursuit of whistle blowers reflects that those in charge, "fear us" for our potential to reveal the truth and fear technology as the enabling mechanism.

    Snowden cautioned the audience not to "sleepwalk into new applications" that serve those in government with so much to hide. This will guarantee both a "dystopian future" and a world in which government technology enables them to

    Snowden offered a devastating answer to those who accused him and others of working against the interests of the

    "The founding fathers didn't have a revolution to enshrine internal bureaucracies. If we're going to have democracy, we have to know what's going on " We can't have the government that shuts us out. " Tom Drake showed me how to do the right thing."

    Snowden summed up his philosophy in a few critical words:

    If you let up on your rights for a moment, you've lost them for a lifetime.

    Through greed and connivance, the government has created a class of younger people who are essentially "indentured servants." according to Snowden. The use of massive, invasive, ubiquitous spying is the key to keeping the servants in line. This point was devastating in its simplicity and truth.

    There was much more shared during this extraordinary presentation by the first and the latest high-impact persecuted and prosecuted patriotic whistleblowers. Both Snowden and Ellsberg encouraged others to step forward. They offered a message of true hope for a peaceful, patriotic, and productive shift away from highly negative government policies. Instead of "a few guys behind closed doors" making self serving and often disastrous policies, Snowden argued that we need as much transparency as possible to allow the people to make their own choices for a positive future.

    (Article changed on July 19, 2014 at 19:07)

    http://www.opednews.com/author/author3863.html
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    Nothing released on U'tube yet.....Early days.



    An earlier reporting on how mainstream are ignoring
    Snowdens awards on the whole......

    Ralph Nader: Snowden ceremony ignored by mainstream media




    Published on 30 Apr 2014


    The Ridenhour Prize for Truth-Telling was awarded to National Security Agency
    whistleblower Edward Snowden and filmmaker/journalist Laura Poitras Wednesday.
    Speaking via video call to a packed room at the National Press Club in Washington,
    DC, Snowden and Poitras called for changes in how whistleblowing is viewed by the
    government. Among the high-profile attendees was former presidential candidate
    Ralph Nader, who criticized the lack of interest in the event by mainstream media
    outlets. RT's Sam Sacks attended the event and speaks to Lindsay France about
    the award.Find RT America in your area

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    Default Re: Ellsberg and Snowden speak at Hacker Meet up in NYC

    Edward Snowden: "If I end up in Guantánamo I can live with that" | Guardian Interviews
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    Published on 18 Jul 2014


    The NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden's full interview 2014 with the Guardian.
    Subscribe to The Guardian ► http://bitly.com/UvkFpD
    The 31-year-old former intelligence analyst discusses
    whether he is a Russian spy, his likely fate if he returns
    to the US and the relevance of George Orwell's Nineteen

    Eighty-Four in the age of Google.
    Get the whole picture, the whole time ► http://is.gd/9LRxIO
    Mr Snowden talked exclusively with Alan Rusbridger,
    editor-in-chief of the Guardian, and reporter Ewen MacAskill in Moscow.
    More Edward Snowden news ► http://is.gd/snowdengdn

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