Manipulation of the "New Age" Movement

[Omni]

This has been discussed before but I can't find a thread on it... I have searched for the whistleblower info about the new age being manipulated from like the 70s in TPTBs agenda but can't seem to find it. If someone has a link to this I would be interested to review it.

What I was told by my contacts and have adopted as one of my theories is this...

By witnessing other worlds develop extraterrestrials can predict with great accuracy certain growths and developments in humans(or other races). For example any one of us could go to a developing world that just discovered the internet and become a billionaire... An organic 'New Age' movement (chakras, reincarnation, etc) was witnessed and it involved many good things. Like holistic healing/cures for ailments, resistance to the normal dogmatic religions put in place by the controllers on various worlds, belief in reincarnation and chakras, things like that... Anyway, what I was told was the info on 'new age' movements witnessed on other planets, was relayed to the US government by nefarious ETs, and the US government sought to create their own version of it before it became about organically and was a positive thing for humanity. I will review some of the things I have witnessed that I believe are US government manipulations within the 'new age'...

Channeled Material
I am not saying it is all US government. But I am saying maybe 99% of it is US government... I have channeled before and know how it works. Channeling by my experience is certainly not an interdimensional being without a body entering you and channeling.... It is technological control of the mind. Channeling = Mind Control. With AI and interfaces available a being can infuse with your mind and you can channel them, but in most cases it is an AI feeding the channeler the material by my experienced estimations...

Ascension
If the world interdimensionally shifted into two timelines from 2012 I will eat my own hat(taking a line from bill lol).
I have my suspicions that the whole ascension to 5d etc is a fabrication. And that the different densities may actually just be metaphors for differing stages of evolution etc. I could be wrong about the densities but when I hear someone say 6th density beings I just think very advanced benevolent lifeforms. Not an actual 6th density field for these beings. That is at least where I stand now...

Regardless, the whole idea of earth ascending if I had to guess, is new age propaganda. The idea has been manipulated it seems to me...


Guru Psy Ops
Many propped up people are in the alternative community. It's a major psy op war over beliefs in the new age communities. One thing I was told by my contacts is the US government has a system for predicting what people will be able to accomplish in life, and at times uses this system to propagate someone within the new age community..

Anyway, many different opposing information from various gurus/contactees/etc serves to keep us believing different things making us more divided or more likely to ignore each others wisdoms when they are had.. I wont name any names of who I think was propped up, as that is offensive(minus one),.. I feel confident enough to name one name. Ashyane(sp) dean and keylontic science,.. No doubt in my mind it was a new age psy op done by the US government.

Recycled Religions(once again)
They use the images/aspects of Jesus, and telepathically use the facade 'aspect' of Archangels to people. Also they impersonate God to some people. According to Robert Duncan (IIRC) the US gov originally called electronic telepathy "The Voice of God". Some terrorists report Allah telling them to do things.. hmmm......

Saviorship Model
Used in the creation of christianity.. And also used in new age channeled materials... I do believe we need help in some ways with our situation, but we also have a lot of work to do no matter what as a race. The new age channeled material is often a saviorship model of helplessness for humanity and ET races coming in to save us with no emphasis on tangible personal growth techniques such as self reflection or taking action ourselves...

Overly Optimistic
One new age stigma is only focusing on the positive or being overly positive. I agree it has it's uses, but such serves to keep eyes from information the US gov doesn't want people to know.

I do believe everything will work out for humanity, and we will join the galactic and universal community, as well as become healthy. But I can't help but notice a general idea in the new age thinkers that the dark has lost, when all evidence in the world shows they have not and they still reign on earth... Thinking the dark has already lost inspires lack of action against what is taking place.


Immune to Outside Influence via Whatever Method
I have observed in new age circles that many think they are immune to manipulation or flat out control because they have identified very rudimentary first steps of the global conspiracy and see through some of the agenda. Such is in the desires of the controllers for people to have the view they cannot be controlled(while being controlled). In some cases people are more resistant to being controlled, for sure. But as I understand it everyone can be controlled by technology as the mind and perception etc is totally open source. For young races this is a bad thing in ways, for old races it is a good thing as they control their own minds to enhance their experience etc(but still use their soul)...

Anyway that is what I can come up with right now. I may add more later if I think of something as I feel I am missing a lot of good points I should know... Again if anyone has links to the whistleblower that said he heard the new age being talked about before it happened and it was a plan to manipulate it plz post them.

[Hazelfern]

About 'channeled' material, I recently read on another forum that Edgar Cayce was being lumped into that category and was considered a pawn. Does that make sense? I am wording it awkwardly but the person was implying that Edgar had been manipulated by other worldly powers who were trying to lead humans astray.
The implication kind of rubbed me the wrong way. I have always considered Edgar to be the real deal.
What do you think?

[Omni]

Posted by Nonin (here)
About 'channeled' material, I recently read on another forum that Edgar Cayce was being lumped into that category and was considered a pawn. Does that make sense? I am wording it awkwardly but the person was implying that Edgar had been manipulated by other worldly powers who were trying to lead humans astray.
The implication kind of rubbed me the wrong way. I have always considered Edgar to be the real deal.
What do you think?

Edward Cayce's case was far before the US government got the technology to mind control. To me, any channeling case before like 1940 or so is more credible automatically. That doesn't mean it's from a trustworthy source. But it just means it's probably from 'up there'. Which could be a collaboration of both polar opposite groups of ETs, or one side. Either way it would be an exopolitical agreement from how I see it.

[Centauri]

I like the cut of your jib, there Omni.

Lately, I have been analyzing everything against the service to self/service to others concept. If it smacks of vanity then it is immediately suspect to me. Even veiled vanity that takes the form of 'more enlightened and experienced than you' attitude.

As for positivity, there is a way to remain positive and remain active. It is more a matter of defiance to me. If there are beings who are just loving how much negativity we spread in our reactions to events, then they will get no such meal from me. I even consider outrage to be a positive driving force for action. I was addressing this in the numerology thread trying to spur some actual action against the badguys if the practice does indeed work. The only kind of action I myself seem capable of is speaking up when something is clearly wrong or the information is not correct and/or taking people to task on their claims. I spend a little time doing this in comments sections across many news websites every morning. I want to do more but I am not sure how.

As for feeling that evil has lost the battle, I certainly do not subscribe to this delusion. They are on the ropes, yes... but a little bit away from total defeat. I have no idea how we would rebuid after full exposure of the cabal anyways. The people in the county I live in.... I don't see the majority of them being ok with being told that their american-dream-super-consumption lifestyle will have to stop. Imagine all those people with jetskis and muscle-car projects on the sides of their mini-mansions complete with a swimming pool of wasted fresh water having to give it aaaaaaaall up. Or imagine them being told that society needs some socialist ideas (like caring for the weak or ill) to mature.

As for links to whistleblowers.... I haven't any. I just appreciate bringing attention to the idea.

[Omni]

Updated the OP with 'ascension' category.

[AriG]

Omniverse,

Excellent thread. Thank you! Can you elaborate a bit more about the technology involved in channeling? How does it work (nuts and bolts)? Knowing this might provide us with another tool in our box to resist. (personally, I suspect that any machinery involved is still in the rudimentary stages..biology is another story) Thank you!

[joeecho]

Posted by Omniverse (here)
Immune to Outside Influence via Whatever Method
I have observed in new age circles that many think they are immune to manipulation or flat out control because they have identified very rudimentary first steps of the global conspiracy and see through some of the agenda. Such is in the desires of the controllers for people to have the view they cannot be controlled(while being controlled). In some cases people are more resistant to being controlled, for sure. But as I understand it everyone can be controlled by technology as the mind and perception etc is totally open source. For young races this is a bad thing in ways, for old races it is a good thing as they control their own minds to enhance their experience etc(but still use their soul)...

Thank you Omniverse,

Speaking for myself, I can get bogged down in the complexities of what is going on and forget about the rudimentary/ first steps as you put it.

This part of your post speaks particular to me as in just the last 12-16 hours I had been specifically meditating on the very thing I highlighted of your post.

Is the global conspiracy put here to cover over the path to the genesis of Conspiracy itself and thus prevent my complete awareness of it? Is it that big yet that simple?

I do not know if my post contributes to your thread and my apologies in advance if it doesn't. I do not always know what drives me to post.

Maybe it is in the hopes that it speaks to someone that reads it as your post spoke to me.

[Omni]

Posted by joeecho (here)
Is the global conspiracy put here to cover over the path to the genesis of Conspiracy itself and thus prevent my complete awareness of it? Is it that big yet that simple?

I'm not sure it's there to hide other stages of it. It certainly is harder to believe the deeper you go. The apex of the conspiracy seems to be reptile ETs(not really shapeshifters). Their agenda seems to be the main agenda of all the countries that they made deals with to give them mind control tech. Those countries seem to be following a 'mold' of sorts given to them by the nefarious ETs. An alarming agenda to say the least. It involves eugenics of the wickedest kind, holding humanity back spiritually etc. Things like that.

[Milneman]

They use the images/aspects of Jesus, and telepathically use the facade 'aspect' of Archangels to people. Also they impersonate God to some people. According to Robert Duncan (IIRC) the US gov originally called electronic telepathy "The Voice of God". Some terrorists report Allah telling them to do things.. hmmm......

Could they also use the images of extra terrestrials....in which case Omni, does that not introduce the possibility that your contact is in fact...ohoh.....US government seeding you? hmm.....

I have observed in new age circles that many think they are immune to manipulation or flat out control because they have identified very rudimentary first steps of the global conspiracy and see through some of the agenda. Such is in the desires of the controllers for people to have the view they cannot be controlled(while being controlled). In some cases people are more resistant to being controlled, for sure. But as I understand it everyone can be controlled by technology as the mind and perception etc is totally open source. For young races this is a bad thing in ways, for old races it is a good thing as they control their own minds to enhance their experience etc(but still use their soul)...

Again...why are you immune? How can you be certain of your immunity?

I'm not sure it's there to hide other stages of it. It certainly is harder to believe the deeper you go. The apex of the conspiracy seems to be reptile ETs(not really shapeshifters). Their agenda seems to be the main agenda of all the countries that they made deals with to give them mind control tech. Those countries seem to be following a 'mold' of sorts given to them by the nefarious ETs. An alarming agenda to say the least. It involves eugenics of the wickedest kind, holding humanity back spiritually etc. Things like that.

You know, it suddenly occurred to me what this reminds me of: this is the same kind of rhetoric used by the inquisition against witches!

Help me see what I'm missing, won't you? Maybe philosophy has corrupted my perception......

[Omni]

Posted by Milneman (here)
Could they also use the images of extra terrestrials....in which case Omni, does that not introduce the possibility that your contact is in fact...ohoh.....US government seeding you? hmm.....

They have impersonated ETs to me plenty of times. But at this point I think it's fairly obvious I am dealing with both ETs and the US government. I doubt the US government would be willing to show me an exotic craft in broad daylight up close in a populated area of a ship that has no record online that I can find of. Or gone over what mind control with me I have received and highlighted why and helped me get back to my own beliefs...

Again...why are you immune? How can you be certain of your immunity?

I am not immune.

You know, it suddenly occurred to me what this reminds me of: this is the same kind of rhetoric used by the inquisition against witches!

Burning witches and the like also served their agenda. At least when they burnt someone who healed with herbs or someone saying science will help us or something like that. Christianity served to invert our natural selection...

[Omni]

Posted by AriG (here)
Omniverse,

Excellent thread. Thank you! Can you elaborate a bit more about the technology involved in channeling? How does it work (nuts and bolts)? Knowing this might provide us with another tool in our box to resist. (personally, I suspect that any machinery involved is still in the rudimentary stages..biology is another story) Thank you!

Sorry totally missed this post! I can

Basically the more in depth channeling requires an AI to have your mind mapped for one. ETs routinely mind map people. So does the US government. Anyway after mind mapping someone, which is going into their brain with nano tech and recording the pathways, memories etc, they are able to control that person via an AI to channel any language of information, through the language of the person writing the channeling. There are more archaic ways to channel as well. Such as serving detailed concepts/imprints and having a channeler describe them in their own words. Most forms of channeling is total control of the brain. From what I can relate from my own stint of channeling a blog was they throw in various concepts and may control discernment/belief as well when channeling material.

To be clear when I was channeling on my blog I was channeling an AI that had access to all my memories. So it wasn't a traditional channeling...

Channeling technology is perfected by extraterrestrials, and has been used many times throughout history. The Bible is channeled material mostly for example. Over the years extraterrestrials have chosen various people to channel them, but it is often covert and the person believes it is themselves coming up with the content. Musician's/Artists in greek culture had ideas about channeling...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muse

The Muses, (Ancient Greek: Μοῦσαι Mousai; perhaps from the o-grade of the Proto-Indo-European root *men- "think"[1]) in Greek mythology, poetry and literature, are the goddesses of the inspiration of literature, science and the arts. They were considered the source of the knowledge, related orally for centuries in the ancient culture, that was contained in poetic lyrics and myths.

Channeling is very old on earth. And has covertly brought us some of our best art, music, and literature. It is not only a bad thing.

A person who has channeled you can bet is hooked up to a transhuman network. ETs have these networks too so they are not all bad. Transhumanism is a very acute double edged sword. And channeling is part of transhumanism.

[joeecho]

Posted by Milneman (here)
Also they impersonate God to some people.

This has also entered recently into my meditation as well.

Could there be a more potent mind control then a false god? Of course it would not be a false god to the 'believers'. I do not think it's a stretch to see the power in that. Imagine being raised since birth to worship a particular god and also believing that much of the people around you also believe in this essentially same god with all the trappings that go with it (images/ idols, places of worship, TV shows, books, songs etc.). And then imagine it has all been taking place for many generations. How could someone escape something like that? Would it not be the last thing they would feel they needed escape from?

To question this particular god would be at the very least....sinful, blasphemous, evil etc. and they would be labeled an infidel, heathen, gentile, heretic etc.. And at certain times or places in history (or the present), a person or group would be marked for death/ hell by 'believers'. At some point these 'believers' would demand complete conversion or the complete annulation of 'nonbelievers' would they not?

This knowledge would rewrite history if it was fully realized by the populous. If it happened in a moment it would change 'reality' in a moment IMO.

.:: Edit ::.

Instead of "rewrite history", which sounds like making up history to me, maybe a better wording would be....correcting the wrongs put down as history.

[Deega]

Hey thanks Omniverse, a few years back, I read Mark Passio, in the Exohuman Web Site, stating "The New Age Movement has been specifically designed to prevent people from realizing their true spiritual nature and potential", , I would appreciate your comments if you may!

Web Site link: http://www.exohuman.com/wordpress/20...red-masculine/

The best to you!

[joeecho]

Posted by Deega (here)
Hey thanks Omniverse, a few years back, I read Mark Passio, in the Exohuman Web Site, stating "The New Age Movement has been specifically designed to prevent people from realizing their true spiritual nature and potential", , I would appreciate your comments if you may!

Web Site link: http://www.exohuman.com/wordpress/20...red-masculine/

The best to you!

I would like to hear your comments on this as well, Omniverse.

My take on this is that the New Age Movement, like any spiritual movement whether officially titled or not, has both the content to lead further away or further towards realizing a "true spiritual nature and potential". Perhaps it is akin to transportation, some are more helpful/ efficient at a particular point in the journey then others. I mean, if you had a choice, you would not want to use a yacht to cross a pond and likewise a row boat to cross an ocean.

At least that is my experience.

I have gained understanding in my journey from multiple angles. I am not so sure I would have gained the level of 'fullness' that I have from traveling from only one specific angel. It's like learning different things about life from different parents/ relatives as you grow up as a child.

Avalon is a valuable part of my journey as well in that same vein of thought.

[Omni]

Posted by Deega (here)
Hey thanks Omniverse, a few years back, I read Mark Passio, in the Exohuman Web Site, stating "The New Age Movement has been specifically designed to prevent people from realizing their true spiritual nature and potential", , I would appreciate your comments if you may!

Web Site link: http://www.exohuman.com/wordpress/20...red-masculine/

The best to you!

One of the bigger goals I've witnessed in the agenda is to slow down spiritual development as much as possible. They even go as far as to stop many musicians from making better music... It's a wide ranging and very dark conspiracy... So that makes sense to me that it would be designed to hinder spiritual development. Although I'm not quite sure fully how... Religion I believe has served to hold humanity back from advancing spiritually. You can find many of the same correlations in the new age archtype to old religions..

I found Mark Passio's enormously long youtube video after posting this thread to the icke forum. Im at about 2 hours in. Only thing I really disagree with him about is there being a God.. He brings up some good points. Here is the video I'm currently watching:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q51l_E8Tlp0

[bodosa]

thanks Omniverse for this thread. i wanted to know a little bit more about AI.
is AI omnipresent ?
through what medium AI contacts or manipulates a person? example through radio waves or some other contact mediums.

[Omni]

Posted by bodosa (here)
thanks Omniverse for this thread. i wanted to know a little bit more about AI.
is AI omnipresent ?

As I understand it AI is present in almost all places near life in the universe at this point, if not all. Every detail about any society in the galaxy is being tracked by various extraterrestrial AIs. So in a way it is omnipresent. To me, the all seeing eye, is extraterrestrial AI that tracks literally everything.

through what medium AI contacts or manipulates a person? example through radio waves or some other contact mediums.

Telepathy is microwaves. It is known as microwave hearing. As for the control I'm not fully sure. I need to read my book from Dr. Robert Duncan. I believe he knows what technology is being used...

[wegge]

what do you think about Gaia theory as a selfaware being which we all are parts of?
and if so, has it been hijacked from outer space?

[joeecho]

In an evil realm, good is interpreted as evil.

In an evil realm, ascending is descending which is contrary to reason.

In an evil realm, everything is turned upside down. It cannot be reversed per its nature, however, a mirror offers a hint.

[Natalia]

I have a question to you, Omni...what does Artificial Intelligence mean? (I know it might seem like a silly question to some, lol, but seriously I want to know what the sort of context is here...mind control to me is not newly in my awareness, by AI is not something that I have come across like you have talked about it in some ways, or not in those words (AI) before...)...