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    Default Ukraine false flag planned? NATO involvement?

    Posted in the hope that the more people that are aware of this as a possibility, the less likely it is to happen.

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    False flag events are the new modus operandi of NATO and its allies, as we have witnessed in recent years, the most blatant example of which was provided in Libya before the FUKUS Axis (France-UK-US) again breached international law and slaughtered civilians. Another is planned in Ukraine to blame Russia?

    By now it is perfectly clear that the West has lumped Russia and NovoRossiya Resistance Forces/Freedom Fighters together into an anti-western block, and prepares to consider NovoRossiya Resistance Forces/Freedom Fighters as a terrorist organization. But what to expect from a west that supported terrorist forces in Libya, on their own lists of proscribed groups, what to expect from a west that has used terrorists in Syria?

    In this column more than once I have spoken about planned false flag events in Libya and in Syria, including the chemical weapons attack by western-backed anti-Assad forces which eventually committed the crime, using chemical weapons to serve as a causus belli against President Assad. Only the swift action of President Putin avoided a bloodbath in Syria in which NATO would have become willingly involved.

    Surprise, surprise, because Russia has a Mediterranean naval base in Syria and surprise, surprise, Russia has a major naval base in Crimea. Once again, only swift action from President Putin avoided the Putsch forces in Kiev (which ousted President Yanukovich, the democratically elected Head of State, illegally) handing over the base to their NATO masters.

    Now the attempt to grab Syria has failed, now the attempt to grab the Crimea has failed, NATO starts to play dirty. As I write, there is a plan for a build-up of NATO military forces in Szczecin, Poland, one of the willing New Poodles in central Europe. This, as bellicose rumors circulate in the US Congress against Russia.

    And now the cherry on the cake, another alleged false flag event planned, more specifically plans for a series of terrorist operations perpetrated in Ukraine by forces loyal to the Poroshenko Junta, to then blame the Resistance and, predictably, Moscow. If this comes after Ukraine is given special status as an ally of NATO, it might be taken as justification for a strike against Russia by this Terrorist Organization.

    Yesterday, Resistance spokesperson Anton Guryanov issued the following statement: "According to our information, the Nazis of the Kiev Junta are planning to conduct a major terrorist act in the next several days. Or a series of terrorist acts. On the territory of Ukraine".

    "For the past several days, Mr. Avakov and his assistant Shkiryak have been conducting preparation for this in the mass media. The goal of this is to blame the terrorist acts on Russia and to introduce a regime of total dictatorship on the territory of Ukraine".

    As I predicted, after reading about the forthcoming plan from several different sources, "The maximum goal is to create the conditions for a NATO military intervention, and of the Polish-Lithuanian contingent in particular". Furthermore, we even have a name for the event, which is an operation with the code name "Spalokhutemreve" and the Resistance Forces state that Ukrainian Security Service (SBU) Major Aleksei Nikonov is the person in charge of the operation. The Resistance quotes as its source for this information "high-ranking officials in Kiev" who are fearing for their future after Poroshenko has fallen.

    The Resistance warns the Ukrainian people: "What should the common people, now listening to this address, do? In the next several days, do not visit places of public concentration of people. Try either not to use public transportation or to use it as sparingly as possible. In particular, this concerns the metro system. Pay close attention to looking after your children. Look after your buildings' cellars and entranceways, to ensure that no strangers go there and that no unknown cargos are deposited in your cellars and entranceways. Please disseminate this information to your acquaintances, friends and neighbors - to anyone that you can. And may God help us".

    Hardly a message from terrorist forces, now, is it? But what about those who are planning such an event?

    It is also rumored that the Kiev Junta has planned revenge for its losses in the failed attempt to take Donetsk and Lugansk Republics, to take place in a massive terrorist operation perpetrated by pro-Kiev Fascist forces masquerading as Resistance fighters conducting an imminent operation against civilians in Pavlograd.

    It is crystal clear that the west has used the Ukraine as a pawn in its disgusting power game to strangle Russia and ultimately seize its massive resources. Like the Roman Empire, the NATO military-industrial complex whose lobbies control western governments can only perpetuate itself by grabbing more land, and in this case, resources.

    It is crystal clear that Russia, the BRICS countries and some others, such as Uruguay, Venezuela, Bolivia, Iran, Vietnam, Guatemala, form the backbone of a growing force which walks hand-in-hand together with the hearts and minds of the people in this international community. NATO, its poodles and their sickening sycophantic governors, do not, and neither do they care. Until one day...until one day.
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    Default Re: Ukraine false flag planned? NATO involvement?

    With all due respect, do you really belive people are buying it?!

    http://www.businessinsider.com/putin...omments-2014-5

    All the best

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    Default Re: Ukraine false flag planned? NATO involvement?

    Pick a side (any side) and stand up and prophesize its merits, and your fans will be turkeys.


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    Default Re: Ukraine false flag planned? NATO involvement?

    Lol... Not looking for sides and fans.
    Xanth, sorry I didn't realise you paste this article from Pravda (one of the oldest papers in Soviet Russia, now pro-Kremlin establishment tube). I thought you wrote it yourself.

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    Default Re: Ukraine false flag planned? NATO involvement?

    Quote Posted by Qba (here)
    With all due respect, do you really belive people are buying it?!

    All the best
    Unfortunately there's a long list of false flags, which are part of modern day 'warfare'. There's also a good deal of propaganda and counter propaganda as you rightly point out. From what I've seen of online comments on Ukraine - especially here in the UK on sites like the Guardian, there's actually a lot of very good points that don't follow the standard western commentary - yet when you do get a good point, its never countered with equally valid observation, but rather followed with a comment to suggest its propaganda.

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    Default Re: Ukraine false flag planned? NATO involvement?

    False flags are NOT part of modern day 'warfare'.

    False flags are Terrorist acts against innocent civilians. False flags are the ultimate Betrayal.

    The EU and the US AIPAC alliance are working feverishly to incite a global war as their patrons own the economies of all the player nations on the game board, including Russia.

    David Cameron has announced a "full brigade" to be dispatched to Poland. It will be a slaughter. Dunkirk 21st century style. (Dunkirk was a deliberate act by the handlers of the UK Government to slaughter the entire 3rd British Army and the retreating French Army. Nine days to achieve any sort of recovery for a distance a swimmer could swim in 22hrs! Go figure) And we have ring side seats to watch it all again on you tube this time, how sick is that. Coming soon to the UK and US and of course the Polish.

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    It's difficult to stay objective these days even with the best of our intensions as opposed to being manipulated.

    My view on this subject is probably slightly distorted by my personal experience and history.

    I saw tanks on the streets, innocent people being beaten by militia, not being able to speak freely, people being brainwashed and punished if their way of thinking was different to the "main stream" or the "right line of the party"...the list goes on.

    Now you might ask what today's Russia has to do with it?
    It all corresponds with the facts most of us are familiar with.
    Putin is an ex KGB agent and in his opinion the biggest catastrophe of the last century was the collapse of the Soviet Union.
    In my opinion Russia as a nation never looked at the history and faced the truth. History in Russia is still being distorted and manipulated by the main stream media i.e. by glorifying Stalin who killed millions of people.
    Russia never categorically cut itself off from that or felt any remorse.
    How do you want to build any normal future, bring up the next generations? You can't do it based on lies.

    I can clearly see similarities and some sort of continuity here maybe without the ideology bit.

    Now, in this case what sort of false flag are we talking about?

    For me this "gentleman's" (Putin) intensions are pretty clear.

    Poles are scared as they don't want history to repeat itself which is understandable. They had 50 years of Russia's direct influence which they didn't choose and I'm not surprised they are tired of it. Their unfortunate place on the map means they will always be ...in trouble, besides they are NATO border country so it's obvious they will be on the the first line if the SHTF.

    But it's probably only a smaller picture of the bigger story...
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