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    This video shows the photoshopped impossibility of the James Foley execution. It's not too graphic, though he makes a disclaimer about the violence to satisfy Ytube.

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    Default Re: was James Foley killed or was it a FF?

    Must we have this nonsense for every single thing that happens there will always be some nutcase that claims it's a FF which seems to me to be convenient cover for believing whatever you wanted to believe in the first place. OK someone claims its fake. So what? I'm sure there are plenty of real experts that could take this analysis apart. Not getting drawn in.

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    Default Re: was James Foley killed or was it a FF?

    I haven't seen the vid, but who knows what's staged any more? There are plenty of questions surrounding Sandy Hook.

    You haven't made any arguments, you just called it nonsense and invoked 'experts', whoever they are.

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    Default Re: was James Foley killed or was it a FF?

    Quote Posted by kemo (here)
    Must we have this nonsense for every single thing that happens there will always be some nutcase that claims it's a FF which seems to me to be convenient cover for believing whatever you wanted to believe in the first place. OK someone claims its fake. So what? I'm sure there are plenty of real experts that could take this analysis apart. Not getting drawn in.
    Let's see ... Maine, Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin, Operation Ajax, 9/11, Aurora theater shootings, Boston Marathon bombing, Sandy Hook, etc, etc, etc. These are just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many more, and many we don't even know about.

    Familiarize yourself with the concept of the false flag and trauma-based mind control. Read a historical document called Operation Northwoods to understand that the government really is willing to attack its own people as a pretense for war.

    To answer your question, yes, I do believe we have to question everything we're being told, especially hyped media events that work to conveniently draw us into military campaigns.

    The video in question might not be the most expertly done analysis, or its conclusion might be 100% wrong -- I don't know. But it's a starting point, at least, to verifying truth. And I would never try to shut someone down for questioning what they're being told. If everyone questioned what the authorities/media told us, they would have a much harder time pushing their agenda. Sorry this seems to annoy you?
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    Default Re: was James Foley killed or was it a FF?

    Once it was established that the mainstream media lied about 9/11 it is safe to assume that nothing else they report can be trusted.

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    Default Re: was James Foley killed or was it a FF?

    I watched an interesting documentary on HBO fairly recently, which I unfortunately don't remember the name right off the top my head, that accurately depicted to what extent the government goes to falsify events and present them are "terrorist" initiatives here in the US.

    Essentially, they sent a CIA operative undercover to an extremely poverty stricken area in an attempt to gather up participants in a planned terrorist attack and then it was presented as though it was thwarted by the very alphabet agency that set it up in the first place. There was extremely lengthy footage detailing the fact and overwhelming evidence, but the defendants still lost the case.

    If you watch how it was presented in the media it shows just how ridiculous the people who are in power really are, and will do anything to keep their endless threat of terrorism which is simply an excuse for their foreign agenda involvements and continually turning the US into a undercover fascist state until it no longer has to be undercover.

    So YES, unfortunately everything that involves the US and it's allies that is depicted as some terrorist involvement, especially to supposedly justify Obama's decision for increased bombings in Iraq, is by default automatically assumed false and foul play. This is simply just how it is...

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    Default Re: was James Foley killed or was it a FF?

    The photo shows (fake) blood dripping down from from the top of his head, but very little if any on his neck where he was supposedly being cut. Sounds like Moulage kits blood packets squeezed by the (fake) executioner. I like this guys youtube channel. He also searches SS birth and death records and finds that there are no records of their birth or death.

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    10 years ago: (May 22, 2004)

    Quote American businessman Nicholas Berg's body was found on May 8 near a Baghdad overpass; a video of his supposed decapitation death by knife appeared on an alleged al-Qaeda-linked website (www.al-ansar.biz) on May 11. But according to what both a leading surgical authority and a noted forensic death expert separately told Asia Times Online, the video depicting the decapitation appears to have been staged. (source)

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    Default Re: was James Foley killed or was it a FF?

    I agree. The guys neck is gone. It should still be attached th his shoulders. Also, cutting of neck should not cause blood burst on head. Good catch IMO.

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    Default Re: was James Foley killed or was it a FF?

    jimstonefreelance.com has a keen analysis on this video, I suggest if you haven't seen that article to go check it out.

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    Default Re: was James Foley killed or was it a FF?

    What could a possible agenda be here?
    Problem reaction solution.
    In the uk there is disgust about this. The fact it was a British citizen that carried out this atrocity.
    The reaction is.
    We must stop these people going out to fight in Syria.

    The solution could be "we need to stop home grown terrorist movements, we'll confiscate their passports"

    The problem would be " how can we take their passports and freedom of movement away?"

    Just pop them in the right order now.

    There are other PRS for this scenario too.
    Born of frustration.

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    I think it's ironic that this video, being discussed in the context of a false flag event, has been removed by youtube.

    "This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy against spam, scams, commercially deceptive content."

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    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    Once it was established that the mainstream media lied about 9/11 it is safe to assume that nothing else they report can be trusted.
    Mam,you said it all with that statement......You just can't trust the mainstream media. They will say what they are told to say and most people believe it's the gospel of Television.

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    Default Re: was James Foley killed or was it a FF?

    Everyone should keep in mind what William Casey, head of the CIA under Reagan, said in 1981...

    (perhaps not an exact quote, but substantially what he said)

    "We will know our programs are working, when everything the public believes, is a lie."

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    Default Re: was James Foley killed or was it a FF?

    I wasn't going to watch this video because I was not up for the downer (if it was real). I am glad I did now because my gut feeling is that it is staged and fake.

    What is the next staged event to up the shock factor? A choreographed group beheading? Who can make the most artistic beheading for you-tube?

    On a separate note, cruise ships seem to be untouched by 'terrorist' so far. Is that coming soon?

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    Default Re: was James Foley killed or was it a FF?

    I don't understand how anyone can watch a video like that, period.
    Even if its to investigate, whatever the reason, I don't get it.
    There are many ways to traumatize spirit and its been going on for thousands of years, its so very important to shield yourself from that kind of trauma...
    I did put myself in his place for a few seconds and then stopped as it was just to much to bare thinking about how I would feel knowing someone was just about to do this to me.
    You might think that you are desensitized from this violence with all that we see in movies and around, but your spirit knows better.
    It knows the truth and it can be traumatized in one moment , then the effect of that can last thousands of years.

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    Quote Posted by Olam (here)
    I don't understand how anyone can watch a video like that, period.
    Even if its to investigate, whatever the reason, I don't get it.
    There are many ways to traumatize spirit and its been going on for thousands of years, its so very important to shield yourself from that kind of trauma...
    I did put myself in his place for a few seconds and then stopped as it was just to much to bare thinking about how I would feel knowing someone was just about to do this to me.
    You might think that you are desensitized from this violence with all that we see in movies and around, but your spirit knows better.
    It knows the truth and it can be traumatized in one moment , then the effect of that can last thousands of years.
    Sometimes it's really about 'putting things in perspective'. I don't mean in the cliché sort of way.

    Just ONE example (never mind the Foley story): Generally speaking, if some entity said some gruesome thing happened and it happened just as they described it but it was a half truth or full lie... however.... you would discover the truth by seeing it for yourself, wouldn't you want to know that? The kicker being that the lie could affect and effect your life in the near future if it was allowed to continue.

    I would but I get why others wouldn't and there are those that are depending on the later to do just that.

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    Default Re: was James Foley killed or was it a FF?

    Quote Posted by Olam (here)
    I don't understand how anyone can watch a video like that, period.
    Even if its to investigate, whatever the reason, I don't get it.
    There are many ways to traumatize spirit and its been going on for thousands of years, its so very important to shield yourself from that kind of trauma...
    I did put myself in his place for a few seconds and then stopped as it was just to much to bare thinking about how I would feel knowing someone was just about to do this to me.
    You might think that you are desensitized from this violence with all that we see in movies and around, but your spirit knows better.
    It knows the truth and it can be traumatized in one moment , then the effect of that can last thousands of years.

    I see your point Olam and refused to watch the original video (still have not) for the same reason. When I saw the conclusion in the video description that the video was fake I knew that I could tolerate it because i trusted the video maker based on watching many of his videos. And it is so, so fake that it's almost embarrassing.

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    Default Re: was James Foley killed or was it a FF?

    This reporter makes the best sense of it and the possible reasons it may have been a snow job.
    NOTE: This isn't the graphic video

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    Well I think Isis is in itself a big false flag so everything they do is false flag. Not that it makes the victims less dead.
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