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    Question >>> Is Liberalism A Mental Illness ?<<<

    Dr. Rossiter describes liberals as having strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions that relentlessly undermine the most important principals on which our freedoms are founded.
    { this thread is not a joke }

    http://rightamerican.wordpress.com/s...ental-illness/

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    Default Re: >>> Is Liberalism A Mental Illness ?<<<

    Quote having strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions that relentlessly undermine the most important principals on which our freedoms are founded.
    I feel exactly the same way about CONservatives and republiCONS.
    "The sleeper must awaken," quote by Duke Leto Atreides from the movie, Dune.


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    Quote Posted by seeker/reader (here)
    Quote having strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions that relentlessly undermine the most important principals on which our freedoms are founded.
    I feel exactly the same way about CONservatives and republiCONS.
    Not being a US American myself, I prefer to refer to the US American bipartisan system as the Democrites and the Repuglycans, or alternatively, the DemiGods and the Repulsicans.

    Either way, here's what Lewis Black had to say about it... ;-)


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    Default Re: >>> Is Liberalism A Mental Illness ?<<<

    Life is one big mental illness. Why pick at the parts?

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    Default Re: >>> Is Liberalism A Mental Illness ?<<<

    "Liberal" is a meaningless term, completely co-opted and twisted inside out and back again. You need to point to SPECIFIC policies that you don't like - you'll be surprised at who ALSO doesn't like those policies.

    Political insanity is rampant in the US. In my belief, ANYONE who identifies with either of the Elite-controlled duopoly parties is insane - and anyone that thinks that ANY "third" party could ever win 2/3rds of the seats in the legislative body (Congress) is insane. Anyone who is a warmonger is insane. Anyone who is an imperialist is insane. Anyone who supports the fascist takeover of the government by corporations and oligarchs is insane. Anyone who supports The Patriot Act, NDAA, HR 357... is insane. Anyone who supports drone bombings is insane. Anyone who supports a privatized prison system is insane. Anyone who supports the DHS and militarization of police is insane. Anyone who thinks it is OK to have a bunch of people with dual citizenship (USA+Israel) in any government position is insane. Anyone who thinks that the Big Energy Mafia's suppression of non-polluting (non-fossil fuel and non-atomic fuel) energy technologies - including Free Energy - is OK is insane. Anyone who supports the dumbed-down public "education" system is insane. Anyone who supports bigotry and racism is insane.

    Pick your insanity - there's plenty to go around.

    Dennis

    p.s. Anyone that is a selfish bastard without compassion is mentally ill in a way that may be worse than insanity.


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    Default Re: >>> Is Liberalism A Mental Illness ?<<<

    I don't know what I am with regards to politics. There are aspects of each that I agree with but as soon as you endorse your belief you are given a 'label'.
    What's the 'label' for a human trying to survive in a system against it?

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    Default Re: >>> Is Liberalism A Mental Illness ?<<<

    Quote Posted by Chipsam (here)
    What's the 'label' for a human trying to survive in a system against it?
    "Sane". ;-)

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    Default Re: >>> Is Liberalism A Mental Illness ?<<<

    Quote Posted by Aragorn (here)
    Quote Posted by Chipsam (here)
    What's the 'label' for a human trying to survive in a system against it?
    "Sane". ;-)
    Yep,
    Cheers bro

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    Default Re: >>> Is Liberalism A Mental Illness ?<<<

    Left-wing/Right-wing politics is just a metaphor for Left-brain/Right-brain IMBALANCE.

    Watch this video between 23:00-27:05



    I'd also suggest watching the whole video.
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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    In my belief, ANYONE who identifies with either of the Elite-controlled duopoly parties is insane
    Underlined and bolded mine. This sums up my post which I was about to make. But Dennis sums it up rather masterfully.

    The whole thing disgusts me... The division of America into red and blue parties and communities is ridiculous, and is the mental illness. Not one side or the other, which they will finger point all day...

    The whole system is for stagnation, and keeping the current powers the be in power. They take turns doing the agenda and screwing over America, while America fingerpoints to the elephant or donkey...
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    Default Re: >>> Is Liberalism A Mental Illness ?<<<

    "My liberal friends simply know so much that isnt so."Ronald Reagan"
    The progressives are who scare me.

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    Default Re: >>> Is Liberalism A Mental Illness ?<<<

    This wonderful definition of classical liberalism given all the way back in 1873 by England's Sir William Harcourt, who made the point in a talk at Oxford. Liberty, said Harcourt,

    …does not consist in making others do what you think is right. The difference between a free Government and a Government which is not free is principally this -- that a Government which is not free interferes with everything it can, and a free Government interferes with nothing except what it must. A despotic government tries to make everybody do what it wishes, a Liberal Government tries, so far as the safety of society will permit, to allow everybody to do what he wishes.


    Unfortunately the way we define liberalism has dramatically changed. It is no longer anything it started out to be. It was originally meant to be defined as a government that only intruded to keep society safe. Liberalism never started out to tell people what is right or wrong. It has morphed into different shades of socialism, large and intrusive government. Liberalism has started to tell people they type of lights bulbs to use,cars to drive, types of toilets we should be flushing, the size of your soft drink, school lunches you should eat and even whether people should smoke or not. It was never meant to do such thing, It has even morphed under the current administration to be pro domestic spying, pro drone, pro extremely large government and to a certain extent pro war. In the last 20 years liberalism has moved in favor of big business, bailed out banks, insurance companies and car companies. The core liberal philosophy was never meant to be this involved.

    Many liberals today openly reject the US Constitution, the primary reason for this is because this document limits government power, it tells government what it can't do and people that want a large all encompassing government do not want limits on government power.

    While liberals and conservatives have almost always wanted the same core objectives they have vastly different ideas on how to get there. I think that we are eventually heading towards some sort of hybrid government. This may not be a bad thing if it is put in place correctly. Government setting the standard and corporations using their money to implement the desired outcome. Government would get out of the way and let the market work. Government would then provide oversight to insure proper implementation and desired outcomes.

    In other words we would not have a complete government takeover of health care, education, taxes, prisons, pharmaceuticals etc. We would have a hybrid system where corporations have a financial stake in the game to make sure things go according to plan. We vacillate between all government and all corporate but neither systems serves the people very well.

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    Default Re: >>> Is Liberalism A Mental Illness ?<<<

    The entire article seems to be a political stunt similar to the one attempted by liberals regarding conservatives in recent times. Consider the following article: Study of Bush's Psyche touches a nerve.

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    Quote A study funded by the US government has concluded that conservatism can be explained psychologically as a set of neuroses rooted in "fear and aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity".
    As if that was not enough to get Republican blood boiling, the report's four authors linked Hitler, Mussolini, Ronald Reagan and the rightwing talkshow host, Rush Limbaugh, arguing they all suffered from the same affliction.
    In more recent times, Every Human Emotion Classified as a Mental Illness


    This article here declares that Creativity itself, is a mental illness...


    A Comprehensive Medical Bill was recently introduced to create an enormous Governmental arm including a new Position within DHHS to coordinate activities within the agency. $40,000,000 a year for the National Institute of Mental Health to fund the Brain Research through Advancing Innovative Neurotechnologies..

    Translation: Governments, along with Lawyers and Psychologists have been hard at work redefining 'Mental Illness' in a way that includes 100% of people, in a continued effort to force people onto psych drugs and into prisons,, as well as a way to control the courts. Everyone is insane, therefore under control of HR3717, which will coordinate with firefighters and law enforcement.

    I see it as just another brick in the wall.

    Jake.

    Last but not least: United Nations Preparing to Manage Global Mental Health. UN Agenda 21?
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    Default Re: >>> Is Liberalism A Mental Illness ?<<<

    Divide and conquor. Keep us focused on our differences to distract us from the fact that the ways we are the same...our humaness ...wanting feel safe, to be free, and to be healthy have been compromised.

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    Quote Posted by marlowe (here)
    Dr. Rossiter describes liberals as having strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions that relentlessly undermine the most important principals on which our freedoms are founded.
    { this thread is not a joke }

    http://rightamerican.wordpress.com/s...ental-illness/
    I used to feel this way about Liberals. And I still do. But now I also feel this way about so called conservatives. They both manifest social disease, they bring their own characterological disturbance and project it onto others in the political arena. And when it is catching it becomes what WR Reich called emotional plague. I have friends to my left and right and I always seem to be getting hammered for not having the correct liberal or conservative view or stance.

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    Default Re: >>> Is Liberalism A Mental Illness ?<<<

    Any 'ism is insane in todays world , no matter what 'ism it is , trying to define 'truth' as a movement or strategy , a group of people who will win ..it's an outlived system .
    The tragedy is .. that you still have countries in this world , like China for example and that's not a little country and not the only one who are not even close to the idea of freedom and democracy and the idea of two or three competing ( and potentially competent ) sides is missing .
    In most developed countries politics equals stagnation , and disability .. partially because the system is artificial .

    And then you look to the 'big politicians' presentations , lets assume that representatives of all the different countries should have above average IQs, overviews , analytic and synthetic abilities and global awareness , and Master Degree in no matter what , at least ,
    and you ask ...

    if the rest of us can see how very dangerous and inhumane is the war game they play , playing against /with people , the game of divided world , game of allies and enemies , like boys who got hands on big toys and real battlefields ,

    how they can't ? How can they agree to playing a game , big monopoly , with peoples lives .
    There has to be a level of megalomania in their heads, anyone basically , stepping up on the political stage and claiming 'I'll sort it out for you' .

    What they do on global level though is completely unacceptable in many ways .. they all do, and how 'they can't see ' ?

    What does it help any of us if few people live in luxury if the rest is lacking basic resources of some sort , hygiene and medicines and education and clean water and air and food and without this , the planet, the ecosystem is being exploited and destroyed ,
    it's no win situation . If they can't think for all planet and its people they should not be there .


    There's plenty of young kids who have a better idea than this old fashioned club .

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    Default Re: >>> Is Liberalism A Mental Illness ?<<<

    Insanity is thinking that you can find truth, love, and goodness in any political party.

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    Default Re: >>> Is Liberalism A Mental Illness ?<<<

    Quote Posted by Frederick Jackson (here)
    Quote Posted by marlowe (here)
    Dr. Rossiter describes liberals as having strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions that relentlessly undermine the most important principals on which our freedoms are founded.
    { this thread is not a joke }

    http://rightamerican.wordpress.com/s...ental-illness/
    I used to feel this way about Liberals. And I still do. But now I also feel this way about so called conservatives. They both manifest social disease, they bring their own characterological disturbance and project it onto others in the political arena. And when it is catching it becomes what WR Reich called emotional plague. I have friends to my left and right and I always seem to be getting hammered for not having the correct liberal or conservative view or stance.
    Actually, the political left-right horizon is an outdated concept. More correct would be to think of political orientation as a compass, with a West-East axis and a North-South axis. The North-South axis represents authoritarianism versus libertarianism.

    Here is a link where you can test your own political orientation on this compass. ;-)

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    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
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    There's plenty of young kids who have a better idea than this old fashioned club .
    You know, I really wonder how many people would be so eager to run for any kind of political office or other position if they were being paid only as much as what I myself have to survive with every month, and if they were no longer allowed an expenses account courtesy of the taxpayer which grants them the ability to eat at five-star restaurants, sleep in five-star hotels and buy a big BMW or Mercedes with a chauffeur all paid from said expenses account.

    Take all that away from them, and then see how many of those so-called idealists remain. If any, chances are that those are the people who are in it for the kick of being in power. Anyone who wants to run for office is someone who by definition doesn't deserve to set one foot in it, because they are all in it for the sake of their own ego. We are all sovereign beings, and although some things need to be regulated - even if only by consensus - no one has the right to rule over his fellow human beings.

    A similar thing can be said about the death penalty or other such extreme punishments. Any form of punishment is worthless unless it is explicitly conceived as a lesson for the perpetrator. But that said, there will always be people who refuse to learn, no matter what, and the argument that the death penalty would be a suitable deterrent from crime is also false, because psychopaths will never think about the consequences of their actions and are by definition unfamiliar with the concept of personal responsibility. They will always blame everything on someone else.

    Besides, the hideous gang rape cases in India prove that the death penalty doesn't work as a deterrent, because there are still gang rapes going on there every day. Not too long ago, a European woman was gang raped there, and after the perpetrators had left her, she tried to make her way over to a police station, but on the way over, she was attacked by another gang and again raped by each of those gang members. And this despite the fact that the gang who raped and ultimately killed that young woman on that bus (and nearly killed her male friend, who was trying to defend her) were given the death penalty.

    The whole system doesn't work. Society needs to be overhauled in its entirety to make any kind of sense at all anymore. And it probably will be, as soon as everyone's awake and aware. But that's going to take a very long time still, and in the meantime, we've got lots of busybodies all coming up with their own versions of alternative rules, which are just as bad as the original ones.

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    Default Re: >>> Is Liberalism A Mental Illness ?<<<

    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    Any 'ism is insane in todays world , no matter what 'ism it is
    I thought a little while to test this. I came up with this word (one of my favorites actually): Altruism. Is that one insane? Seems it's one of the best things there is. One thing that is void of insanity. And humanity has it within some as well. I don't mean to post against what you say Agape, I do believe you have a valid point with the isms... I just had to test it out because that is my nature... I'm curious if you would revise your comment, or do you think Altruism is tainted too?

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