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    I'm NOT in the business to spread fearporn, but this just came up, and needs to be taken seriously...



    http://jimstonefreelance.com/phages.html

    NO MATTER WHAT the story, DO NOT get vaccinated, a new bioweapon is being distributed via vaccines

    This report has been updated to address Google Book's posting of a 1971 release of the New Scientist, which has pictures of the phage below in it. To see this update Click here. http://jimstonefreelance.com/phageupdateaug18.html Even if Google books is not disinfo in this case (which it very well could be because this topic is so important), the remainder of the phage report is BANG ON, phages are what Israel has chosen to use for the race specific bioweapon and because Google Books is not print, it does not satisfy the demand: SHOW ME ON PAPER WITH AN ORIGINAL RELEASE.
    HERE IS THE CHALLENGE:
    I challenge ANYONE, ANYONE AT ALL, to come up with a printed book from the 1990's that has the six legged T4 (proven Israeli Nanobot) bacteriophage in it, as pictured to the left. The web can be faked with ease AND THEREFORE GOOGLE BOOKS DOES NOT CUT IT. You cannot fake print. Let's see it ON PAPER, in unchangeable print from the 1990's. PRINT OR THIS THING CAME FROM AN ISRAELI LAB IN 2007, as I state and present compelling evidence for in the T4 nanobot report below.

    There have been many reports about nanobots being developed that will destroy people. This report actually identifies that nanobot and what it is based upon. Once this nanobot is received via a tainted vaccine, it inserts DNA into your cells which instructs your own cells to produce more copies of itself and THAT is how it replicates. And it NEVER backs off, it simply orders your own cells to keep producing it until your cells die from being over worked doing exactly that. And it's completely verified this thing came from a lab in 2007, scroll down to the pictures if you don't want to read a lot.
    Anti vaccine alternative news web sites are being taken down RIGHT NOW, http://jimstonefreelance.com/vaccinerewrite.html with simultaneous total purges of the Google cache within hours and I beg to question why.

    Actually, there is little to question. The answer is apparently obvious. The elite are now going for a huge push to get the T4 bacteriophage nanobot and other tainted vaccine additives put into the entire world public via mandated injections AT ONCE. And I suspect they are going to use a phony Ebola outbreak to scare the people into accepting shots laced with T4 nanobots, with everyone receiving the shot within a short period of time.

    More so than flight370, Ukraine, and other issues, the takedown of anti vaccine web sites right in the middle of an "Ebola outbreak" is the coincidence we should all be paying attention to, THIS IS THE NEWS, if we miss this one we are likely to be destroyed.
    Anyone who is with it enough to find a web site like this one ought to know about the NWO plan for global depopulation and the establishment of compact slave cities that can be managed with ease. What better way could there be to manage a massive depopulation than a fake outbreak, with the real disease being in mandated shots, peddled as vaccines that are supposed to protect? You can bet the elite do not want to actually release something that could kill them into the wild in the form of a real outbreak. They would instead opt to use all their ill gotten tax dollars to formulate a shot and inject it into their victims, with a certain percentage of the shots being non hazardous, perhaps 1 in 10, and the rest representing the end of life for the recipient. If the disease is a managed disease that is completely non contageous and can only be received via a shot, they can rest easy while the world dies around them.

    And THIS is why they are pushing vaccines so hard, and now actively working to destroy completely legitimate dissent. I am certain that my web site is only staying online because it got too well known too quickly to take down without making waves, and I am going to use that advantage to warn the people and hope for the best.
    THE EBOLA OUTBREAK IS LIKELY A HOAX TO TRICK YOU INTO GETTING A VIRAL NANOBOT LACED VACCINE THAT WILL DESTROY YOU

    RED ALERT REPORT: CONFIRMED: VIRAL NANOBOTS A REALITY AND OUT IN THE WILD NOW
    A NOTE TO THE SHILLS: What will happen if you end up with these things inside you? These are NOT Iphones, WANNA SHILL THIS? ARE YOU SURE YOUR ISRAELI LAB GOT THIS RIGHT AND THESE WILL NEVER GET INTO YOU?
    With only 183K of super efficient DNA code, viral nanobots were released into the wild via vaccinations on September 22 2007 and are being peddled as a natural variant of the T4 bacteriophage. But this report PROVES THESE NANOBOT PHAGES ARE NOT NATURAL, AND WERE INSTEAD CREATED BY ISRAEL. These nanobots invade host organisms or cells and insert DNA that causes the host make more nanobots until the host organisms or cells die from overexertion producing them. THESE ARE LIKELY TO BE IN THE PAPALOMA VACCINE, FLU SHOTS AND OTHER VACCINATIONS, VACCINES WILL BE THE DELIVERY MEDIUM THESE ARE DISTRIBUTED WITH. These are most likely in Gardasil, which in fact appears to be designed to destroy the feminine emotional centers and attack the brain, and this report proves it.

    If you are a headline skimmer who can't get past the first page of reading, you had better reconsider your information gathering habits and READ THIS IN FULL.
    Brain destroying Genetically Modified six legged T4 bacteriophage is a NANOBOT
    Vaccines being used for distribution RIGHT NOW
    Something called a T-4 bacteriophage existed before, but it certainly did not look like this.

    I knew the six legged T4 bacteriophage was NOT NATURAL and that Israel did it and I found a way to PROVE IT. Click the image to the left to see how I proved it, this is NOT a hoax. Google yields NO image results for T4 bacteriphage before September 1 of 2007, and TONS for September 1 of 2008. So that is the time frame this little six pointed demon was released into the wild. And if Google is subsequently rigged to screw with this, I already have it documented, this is REAL FOLKS.


    This is an emergency now, THIS is what Israel is going to use for their race warfare ethno-bomb, and the following earlier report by this web site explains EVERYTHING ON THIS TOPIC:
    THIS is what Israel is going to use for their race warfare ethno-bomb.


    The real threat to our future is the T4 nanobot Bacteriophage
    An alarming development regarding the topic of viral phages has occurred

    To provide a background on this, I have a really close friend who is a doctorate of pharmacology and an expert in the related microbiology fields. While having lengthy discussions about the future of weaponized medicine, this friend went on and on about how bacteriophages were being re engineered to attack our brain cells rather than their normal host - bacteria, implant DNA directly into our cells to change us immediately and forever change future generations by delivering a DNA payload to the egg cells in the ovaries and also to the male reproductive system. This would have a permanent impact on the future of mankind. Once this type of phage was received via a vaccination, those vaccinated would have the vaccine induced traits passed along via DNA insertion by the phage to all future generations.

    Though phages (which are viruses that attack bacteria,) of various types have been around virtually forever, they have thus far been harmless to anything other than bacteria, and are even highly selective in the exact type and species of bacteria they will attack.

    When discussing this topic, I raised the question WHY were they modifying phages instead of common viruses that have a history of attacking people. One answer is in the fact that phages, more so than ordinary viruses which can cross the species divide, are highly selective in their targets and are programmed to only attack precisely what they were designed to - a bacteriophage will prefer only one variant of a particular type of bacteria. For example, there are many different types of salmonella bacteria, and among salmonella bacteria, a particular phage will attack only one variant while leaving other variants of salmonella alone. In the brain, not all neurons are identical, but all are similar so when administered via an intentionally tainted vaccine, the high selectivity of a modified bacteriophage can be used to target precisely the type of neuron a sabotaged vaccine would be intended to wipe out.

    Another reason why bacteriophages were chosen as prime candidates for brain and DNA modification is the fact that they are not designed to attack people to begin with, so if any make it into the wild, re infection of people who never received the tainted vaccine would be impossible - a phage would not be likely to make it through the lungs or skin and into the blood stream simply because it was never designed to breach those biological barriers. But a needle, injecting it directly into the blood stream would bypass those barriers. So the elite, who would either want us emotionally numbed, dumbed down, or genetically altered would have little to fear while being amongst their victims, even as the disease raged inside them.

    I cannot stress how freaked out my friends in the medical community were over this technology, one basically said it represented the end of mankind because it was in the hands of evil people, and that it would be used to divide humanity into two different groups - one which was rendered inferior by permanent DNA replacement, with the new DNA becoming a permanent part of what is passed on through the generations.
    There are two modes of action phages operate with, one is the active assault, and one is a dormant mode. The active assault type of phage, called a lytic phage would be used for immediate personality modification of individuals, and the lysogenic type, which simply invades and makes changes to DNA while leaving whatever it is attacking alive, would be used for genetic modification of people, modifications that would span generations and be permanent.

    And now onto this spooky robot like six legged fully hexagonal T4 phage that now totally dominates the web - I would like to know why the people who are pulling this tainted vaccine scam off on the people have somehow made this particular variant so dominant in the public spectrum. So let me ask WHY is this thing almost completely dominant online, when MANY different types of phages exist and why no pictures of this thing were ever in Google images prior to September of 2007?
    Let me take a WILD EYED GUESS. It´s a matter of national pride. A form of cult like religious orgasm. All phages depicted now not only have six legs, but they also have a star of david body. This is NOT NATURAL, BLATANTLY OBVIOUS, AND DOWN RIGHT DANGEROUS. You know what the future holds now? It is something FAR MORE SPOOKY than any micro drone - it is the brain eating phage, specifically engineered to eat your emotional neurons and render you incapable of free will. I have been told (long ago, in 2010) it is being developed as a vaccine additive to be administered under strict controls and not be something that can survive outside the body, because that certain six pointed group of individuals has the same genetics as the rest of us, so they have no doubt made it certain that their own weapon cannot leap out of the wild and haunt them.

    Tainted Nightmare http://jimstonefreelance.com/squalene.html needs an update, because it only speaks about vaccine adjuvants. This entire phage thing is something new, four years advanced beyond that article. I suggest you take Alex with a grain of salt and watch this video, it really is dead on.


    I suggest everyone save a copy of the photo to the left of a different type of natural phage, because through expungement of history "they" no doubt want to drool in a religious stupor over how their little hexagonal leg patterns and star of david phage bodies wreak havoc on the rest of mankind. And on that note, I may have stated above that the reason for re engineering a phage to do the job rather than a known infectious virus would be to make good and sure it could not spread to other people in the wild, but I can´t help but imagine that such a profoundly Jewish looking micro organism would not be selected simply for its appearances. That stupid phage has six points on the body when viewed from above, six points on the body when viewed from the side, and six legs. PERFECT, DON´T YA KNOW!

    . . . . . But I am sure it is just coincidence . . . . . . . .

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    The following discusses an OBVIOUS test run of this nanobot.

    Doctors say "it´s like your brain is on fire"
    READ THE FOLLOWING REPORT CLOSELY: It is OBVIOUS the Gardasil vaccine is not for Papaloma, it is for attacking the emotional centers, and the following report PROVES IT.
    "PHILADELPHIA (CBS) – It’s a mysterious, newly discovered disease that strikes mainly young women, and it’s often misdiagnosed. Doctors who discovered it, here in Philadelphia, say it’s like your brain is on fire.

    It starts with personality changes, and then young women lay dazed, restrained in hospital beds, acting possessed and then become catatonic. They’d been so normal, when suddenly their lives went haywire.

    “One minute I’d be sobbing, crying hysterically, and the next minute I’d be laughing, said Susannah Cahalan, of New Jersey.

    My comment:

    Personality changes? That is EXACTLY what will happen if your emotional centers, which largely control personality, get attacked. And HOW can doctors just blatantly state that "it´s like your brain is on fire" if they were not in on the program and had no insight into what was going on? Furthermore, IT STRIKES MAINLY YOUNG WOMEN, THE GROUP THAT WOULD GET THE GARDASIL VACCINE. They state later in this rag article that "It´s an autoimmune response, where the immune system is attacking the brain" but oh so responsibly omit the fact that it is blatantly obviously caused by vaccines administered to a controlled group, and that vaccines are responsible for virtually ALL auto immune disorders.

    The fact that this is a controlled administration of an illness is proven by the fact that it is so selective to "young women", not middle aged women, teenagers, boys, children, men or anything else, just YOUNG WOMEN. YOUNG WOMEN GET THE GARDASIL VACCINE FREQUENTLY, WHICH IS VIRTUALLY BEYOND QUESTION, JUST BY WHO IS IMPACTED BY THIS ILLNESS, THE MEDIUM THAT CAUSED THIS "DISEASE" IN PHILADELPHIA. Philadelphia no doubt got a custom batch.

    Further deepening the pile of B.S. in the CBS report is the fact that the doctors called it an auto immune disorder at all. There is no way they could know that for certain, unless they knew there was a trial vaccination campaign happening locally to Philadelphia, and they assumed it was auto immune. My guess? My guess is this little six legged monster was being tested in a trial run, with a controlled group of the elite´s primary target - young women, to see how well it destroyed them. No doubt any woman who got these vaccines has it in her medical record, and they will use that record to see if "after complete recovery" from this illness she becomes the perfect wage slave they want her to be. They will no doubt track EVERYTHING she does, from the number of abortions to how many days her children spend in daycare, and how well she follows the programming inserted into her life via various media control mechanisms. Obamacare will be PERFECT for that.

    “I was very paranoid and manic. There was something wrong. I thought trucks were following me,” said Emily Gavigan, of Pennsylvania.

    And it got worse for Emily Gavigan, who was a sophomore at the University of Scranton. Hospitalized, and out of it, she couldn’t control her arm movements. Then there were seizures, and she needed a ventilator. Her parents were watching their only child slip away.

    “It was life and death for weeks,” said Grace Gavigan, Emily’s mom.

    “We were losing her. This is something that I couldn’t control,” said Bill Gavigan, Emily’s dad.

    Doctors also couldn’t figure out what was wrong with Susannah.

    “I had bizarre abnormal movements, would leave my arms out extended, you know, in front of me. I was a relatively normal person, then the next minute I’m hallucinating and insisting that my father had kidnapped me,” said Susannah.

    Turns out, Susannah and Emily weren’t mentally ill. They both had an auto immune disease called Anti-NMDA Receptor Encephalitis, when antibodies attack the brain, causing swelling.

    My comment Cool name for it - "Anti-NMDA Receptor Encephalitis" and let me quickly explain what that means. NMDA receptor encephalytis means swelling of NMDA receiving axons in the brain. Anti is spurious. It gives absolutely no indication of AUTOIMMUNE, that is B.S. The bottom line, from that terminology, is that something caused swelling of the nmda receptor sites.
    And now I got my weapon, to clear the BS with
    Those doctors know exactly what caused this. Wanna know why? Because they said the NMDA receptors swelled up, and there is NO WAY YOU CAN KNOW THAT, UNLESS YOU DO BRAIN SURGERY AND REMOVE SOME OF THOSE RECEPTORS TO PUT THEM ON A MICROSCOPE SLIDE AND CONFIRM THEY ARE INDEED SWOLLEN. Those doctors KNEW this was a test, and that it would CAUSE those receptors to swell up. They KNEW THERE WAS A BIOLOGICAL EXPERIMENT GOING ON, AND THEY WERE THE OBSERVERS, ABSENT A BRAIN BIOPSY THERE IS NO OTHER WAY FOR THEM TO SAY WHAT THEY DID, OTHER THAN FOREKNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS REALLY GOING ON. No biopsies were ever spoken of. Conveniently, the probable death part of those receptors was left out.
    Anything regarding "doctors could not figure out BLAH" is smoke and mirrors, if they spat an answer too quickly someone might ask how they knew. And the fact that this subsided after a few weeks proves that it was NOT any sort of autoimmune malfunction as this article states, because autoimmune disorders do not go away in a few weeks. Something other than auto immune caused this. I believe this was a GM bacteriophage virus test, where the virus phages went in, did their job, and when complete those receptor sites were not transmitting random trash anymore because they were DEAD. END of symptoms. Dead is SILENT.

    The fact that such obvious fallacious statements from the doctors made it into this CBS report without getting caught proves that CBS is not qualified to cover topics of this nature. Autoimmune disorders clearing up in a few weeks? YEAH RIGHT.

    Susannah says this is how doctors explained it to her parents, “He told them her brain is on fire. He used those words: ‘Her brain is on fire.’

    If you did not watch this Alex video, I strongly suggest you do, it really is dead on.

    You can see the original "brain on fire" article here, the one released before everyone parroted it. However, this CBS news site runs like garbage.
    http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...y-young-women/

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    Ok, I don't know. That's my only answer to most everything these days, but it's the truth. Fact, theory, fiction, disinfo? Don't know. But I took it seriously enough to copy the entire article, put it onto my computer, and will print it as well. It just might stop one of my family and community from doing something stupid if ebola actually hits this country - which I'm sure they fully intend to happen. I would use MMS on it before getting any kind of shot!

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    This info is truly terrible, but if we give in to 'the fear', and believe it - even if it is possible (and no doubt ghastly things are going on), we mustn't let it override our positivity, our love and caring for folk. Every day there is fear-porn, yet every day we have wondrous folk doing amazing things for others. The MSM at the moment is totally negative - but look at your local news and just see how many good things are going on in your community. Fund-raisers. Baking for charities. Focus on the here and now in your area - put as much in as you can. Switch off the TV!!!! Work in your community, barter for food as everyone should be encouraged to grow what they may, whether vertically or in an allotment. I am having to move from city to country, and will turn the family lawns into productive plots. A bit scary for me - but a necessity for my life.
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    I would hope that with the heads up, this will be distributed to the right people, in the right places that will quash this diabolical plot ASAP. The cabal is trying REALLY hard to keep their madness alive. They are clearly EXTREMELY DESPERATE and no doubt going down in a blaze of SHAME...

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    I would hope that with the heads up, this will be distributed to the right people, in the right places that will quash this diabolical plot ASAP. The cabal is trying REALLY hard to keep their madness alive. They are clearly EXTREMELY DESPERATE and no doubt going down in a blaze of SHAME...
    I'll take a look at your warning - see what I can find.

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    I would hope that with the heads up, this will be distributed to the right people, in the right places that will quash this diabolical plot ASAP. The cabal is trying REALLY hard to keep their madness alive. They are clearly EXTREMELY DESPERATE and no doubt going down in a blaze of SHAME...
    I'll take a look at your warning - see what I can find.
    Thanks Bob, much appreciated

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    A very frightening idea, considering I had a relationship in 2003 with the co-developer of the NIH vector Bacteriophage P1 (capable of xporting black plague DNA into e coli, which actually happened in Germany within last 5 years!).

    It's called the Lambda Red Delivery system and considering it was part of the Anthrax Vaccine program that Joe Biden opposed, that damaged so many US and UK troops, it makes my head spin that I was actually sitting at the same table with the evil f***ing genius that helped birth this sick evil into the world.

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    Phages have the possibility to replace antibiotics in the future. We have misused antibiotics and it is predicted that they will not be effective by the turn of the century. Phages, particularly with regard to gastrointestinal applications, have a lot of promise for the future. They are used as part of treatment of diseases in the old Soviet Union countries, and much research has been conducted into them. We are going to need something to replace antibiotics, phages are offering a possibilty of this, at least in some areas.

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    Phages have the possibility to replace antibiotics in the future. We have misused antibiotics and it is predicted that they will not be effective by the turn of the century. Phages, particularly with regard to gastrointestinal applications, have a lot of promise for the future. They are used as part of treatment of diseases in the old Soviet Union countries, and much research has been conducted into them. We are going to need something to replace antibiotics, phages are offering a possibilty of this, at least in some areas.
    That being of the natural type I assume is what your referring to. These T4 type that are discussed above, are completely fabricated, and are malevolent in design with "orders to kill" not heal.

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    I'm getting the minimal vaccines according to government legislation for my baby and am still from comfortable. The question is do I I refuse all vaccines? if so she can't attend kindergarten or school. Really concerned by it.

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    I'm getting the minimal vaccines according to government legislation for my baby and am still from comfortable. The question is do I I refuse all vaccines? if so she can't attend kindergarten or school. Really concerned by it.
    this is concerning that children who are unvaccinated are banned from school. It makes me think people should be setting up independent schools, like a group of people home schooling their unvaccinated kids. I think it's a way forwards.

    I spoke with a 20 year old woman recently who is unvaccinated. She said her mum is treated so badly about this, and she's treated badly now - as in made to feel bad about not being vaccinated - it's like she's blacklisted or trouble!

    Edited to add - the conversation with her came about because she said she has a super strong immune system and hardly ever gets ill with anything - never sick or colds or flu. She thinks it's because she wasn't vaccinated. She's certainly a beautiful and healthy and very intelligent young woman.
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    First they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

    Check out the CNN stuff this week: http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/27/health...html?hpt=hp_t2

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    I'm getting the minimal vaccines according to government legislation for my baby and am still from comfortable. The question is do I I refuse all vaccines? if so she can't attend kindergarten or school. Really concerned by it.
    You could always say it's against your religious beliefs, or something along those lines.

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    I would hope that with the heads up, this will be distributed to the right people, in the right places that will quash this diabolical plot ASAP. The cabal is trying REALLY hard to keep their madness alive. They are clearly EXTREMELY DESPERATE and no doubt going down in a blaze of SHAME...
    I'll take a look at your warning - see what I can find.
    Thanks Bob, much appreciated
    OK..

    This probably should be in multiple posts, I'll try to keep this non-technical add in some historical, and try to bridge this together..

    Back in 1969 when I graduated, one of my papers was about how to create "transfection" using a bacteriophage, the original T4 series is a good model to use.. What it required was the splicing in of the ideal gene codes to make the phage become an "engine". What I was looking at was a method to fix haemophilia and was looking at early forms of how to do gene splicing and fix the whole body's missing gene sequence. The magic word to remember is "transfection". (transformation through an infection). T4 has a particular love of E. Coli. E.Coli bacteria are used as bio-manufacturing engines in the industry to churn out biomolecules which are engineered.

    This was before using SV-40 for viral transduction. Viruses frankly bother me as they are interested in themselves and don't care who or what they eat provided they can steal the cellular engine. I call them thieves, insidious little thieves who want to make the world after their own image.. (hmmm rant rant..)

    But viruses are used by some bio-engineers to make Genetically modified organisms (Monsanto LOVES viruses cause of how they can modify the host's genes), not to FIX some disease, but to tailor an organism to have additional traits.. Viruses are good for that.. Making GMO's and viruses go hand and hand.

    The phage engine is an ideal transfector, even though some folks like to call it a virus, it is more of an engine. It is great for going after bacteria which have become anti-biotic resistant. Think of it like a tank filled with heat seeking missiles designed to go after a particular drone. A virus would probably go after the "tank", the troops, (the drone), the water supply, the animals, in short anything it could convert into a mechanism to support itself (very egocentric lil' buggers)..

    So someone engineering or reprogramming a genetically engineered Phage could very well do it... Using the virus spicing technique to put into the Phage Engine whatever it was capable of holding in the information package..

    Could it be put into vaccines? Possibly, if at the last stage after purification steps were done. Putting it into early stages is unlikely.

    It could just as easily be put into foods. No reason for it to JUST be put into vaccines.

    Can Phages be a good thing? Absolutely.. Would a T4 phage be used in vaccines, I don't think so unless it is so totally modified, it would no longer be in the T4 Class..

    Is it a NANO-ENGINE, yes in the technical sense in that it is biological and functioning on the nano-scales, typically a 90 nanometer engine. BUT it is not for human cells, it is for E. Coli, a nasty infective bacteria..

    But the way bioengineers are working these days, it scares the bejezus out of me. Having spent some time near Cold Spring Harbor bio-weapons facility (they called it a biolab back in those days) and being near to Plum Island (and Montauk Point), where all the bio-experimentations with animals (hoof and mouth disease, anthrax, etc..) were experimented on, all near major population centers was worrisome. In the Hemorrhagic Fever thread in Alt-Medicine, I pointed out in one post that all of these diseases can be purchased basically over-the-counter for researchers who fill out the form saying that "they qualify".

    There are plenty of kits available also sold by those organizations, MAKE YOUR OWN GENES, splice what you want into all sorts of conventional organisms..

    So let's leave it at that for the moment. (no I didn't go for the grant to develop the haemophelia solution using the Phage.. I stay up on what's what in the field(s), but I am not into working in that field these days.. I was distracted back then to be told that I must fight in the undeclared war called vietnam..)
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    ... it inserts DNA into your cells which instructs your own cells to produce more copies of itself and THAT is how it replicates. And it NEVER backs off, it simply orders your own cells to keep producing it until your cells die from being over worked doing exactly that. And it's completely verified this thing came from a lab in 2007, scroll down to the pictures if you don't want to read a lot.

    ...http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...y-young-women/
    All virus replicate that way. No news there ... also, 6 legged T4 bacteriophages were supposedly described in 1944:

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    The specific time and place of T4 phage isolation remains unclear, though they were likely found in sewage or fecal material. T4 and similar phages were described in a paper by Thomas F. Anderson, Max Delbrück, and Milislav Demerec in November 1944.[7]

    A number of Nobel Prize winners worked with phage T4 or T4-like phages including Max Delbrück, Salvador Luria, Alfred Hershey, James D. Watson, and Francis Crick. Other important scientists who worked with phage T4 include Michael Rossmann, Seymour Benzer, Bruce Alberts, Gisela Mosig,[8] Richard Lenski, and James Bull.
    If this Wikipedia info is correct, there will be print of it, without a doubt.

    And finally, the "tv grid" can be easily replicated and laid over screen shots -- I am an A/V guy so I know this to be fact. I could easily do it.

    The info needs to be separated from the disinfo, but this warrants further investigation for sure ...

    I also recall that Atticus back in the day said something along the lines that a nanobot-virus had been created that could target specific races, or people with specific traits (brown eyes for example) -- interesting ...
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    T4 is for E. Coli, not human cells.. BUT if one were to re-engineer the T4 genetic material, leaving the skeleton intact, it is an efficient engine. The dialog in the OP goes over putting such into vaccines, which I believe is bogus, if it were tailored to modify human dna, applying it to foods would be more logical.. Obviously the dialog is about vaccines to put attention on having people not get vaccinations.. using the bacteriophage (wooooo..ooooooo scarey sounding thingy...)..

    As I said in my post above, I was looking at T4 in 1969 as a useful engine for solving haemophilia. Instead folks turned to using SV-40 virus to do the gene splicing for that (successfully I might add).

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    [COLOR="red"]... it inserts DNA into your cells which instructs your own cells to produce more copies of itself and THAT is how it replicates. And it NEVER backs off, it simply orders your own cells to keep producing it until your cells die from being over worked doing exactly that. And it's completely verified this thing came from a lab in 2007, scroll down to the pictures if you don't want to read a lot.

    ...http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...y-young-women/
    All virus replicate that way. No news there ... also, 6 legged T4 bacteriophages were supposedly described in 1944:

    From Wikipedia:
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    The specific time and place of T4 phage isolation remains unclear, though they were likely found in sewage or fecal material. T4 and similar phages were described in a paper by Thomas F. Anderson, Max Delbrück, and Milislav Demerec in November 1944.[7]

    A number of Nobel Prize winners worked with phage T4 or T4-like phages including Max Delbrück, Salvador Luria, Alfred Hershey, James D. Watson, and Francis Crick. Other important scientists who worked with phage T4 include Michael Rossmann, Seymour Benzer, Bruce Alberts, Gisela Mosig,[8] Richard Lenski, and James Bull.
    If this Wikipedia info is correct, there will be print of it, without a doubt.
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    T4 is for E. Coli, not human cells.. BUT if one were to re-engineer the T4 genetic material, leaving the skeleton intact, it is an efficient engine. The dialog in the OP goes over putting such into vaccines, which I believe is bogus, if it were tailored to modify human dna, applying it to foods would be more logical.. Obviously the dialog is about vaccines to put attention on having people not get vaccinations.. using the bacteriophage (wooooo..ooooooo scarey sounding thingy...)..

    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Quote Posted by linksplatinum (here)
    [COLOR="red"]... it inserts DNA into your cells which instructs your own cells to produce more copies of itself and THAT is how it replicates. And it NEVER backs off, it simply orders your own cells to keep producing it until your cells die from being over worked doing exactly that. And it's completely verified this thing came from a lab in 2007, scroll down to the pictures if you don't want to read a lot.

    ...http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...y-young-women/
    All virus replicate that way. No news there ... also, 6 legged T4 bacteriophages were supposedly described in 1944:

    From Wikipedia:
    Quote History[edit]

    The specific time and place of T4 phage isolation remains unclear, though they were likely found in sewage or fecal material. T4 and similar phages were described in a paper by Thomas F. Anderson, Max Delbrück, and Milislav Demerec in November 1944.[7]

    A number of Nobel Prize winners worked with phage T4 or T4-like phages including Max Delbrück, Salvador Luria, Alfred Hershey, James D. Watson, and Francis Crick. Other important scientists who worked with phage T4 include Michael Rossmann, Seymour Benzer, Bruce Alberts, Gisela Mosig,[8] Richard Lenski, and James Bull.
    If this Wikipedia info is correct, there will be print of it, without a doubt.
    I agree ... but I'll still be avoiding vaccines for reasons previously founded

    Addition:
    I personally believe that HPV vaccine, may help to induce infertility -- we'll find out in 10 - 20 years.
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    I wasn't kidding when I said there are kits available to roll your own transfection.. This one group lets you play with SV-40 and HIV viruses because they are so great at modifying their target (human and mouse cells).. No reason to go using a bacteriophage to mess around with genes in other words..





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    Quote Posted by Bob (here)
    T4 is for E. Coli, not human cells.. BUT if one were to re-engineer the T4 genetic material, leaving the skeleton intact, it is an efficient engine. The dialog in the OP goes over putting such into vaccines, which I believe is bogus, if it were tailored to modify human dna, applying it to foods would be more logical.. Obviously the dialog is about vaccines to put attention on having people not get vaccinations.. using the bacteriophage (wooooo..ooooooo scarey sounding thingy...)..

    As I said in my post above, I was looking at T4 in 1969 as a useful engine for solving haemophilia. Instead folks turned to using SV-40 virus to do the gene splicing for that (successfully I might add).

    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Quote Posted by linksplatinum (here)
    [COLOR="red"]... it inserts DNA into your cells which instructs your own cells to produce more copies of itself and THAT is how it replicates. And it NEVER backs off, it simply orders your own cells to keep producing it until your cells die from being over worked doing exactly that. And it's completely verified this thing came from a lab in 2007, scroll down to the pictures if you don't want to read a lot.

    ...http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...y-young-women/
    All virus replicate that way. No news there ... also, 6 legged T4 bacteriophages were supposedly described in 1944:

    From Wikipedia:
    Quote History[edit]

    The specific time and place of T4 phage isolation remains unclear, though they were likely found in sewage or fecal material. T4 and similar phages were described in a paper by Thomas F. Anderson, Max Delbrück, and Milislav Demerec in November 1944.[7]

    A number of Nobel Prize winners worked with phage T4 or T4-like phages including Max Delbrück, Salvador Luria, Alfred Hershey, James D. Watson, and Francis Crick. Other important scientists who worked with phage T4 include Michael Rossmann, Seymour Benzer, Bruce Alberts, Gisela Mosig,[8] Richard Lenski, and James Bull.
    If this Wikipedia info is correct, there will be print of it, without a doubt.
    I agree ... but I'll still be avoiding vaccines for reasons previously founded

    Addition:
    I personally believe that HPV vaccine, may help to induce infertility -- we'll find out in 10 - 20 years.
    Last edited by Bob; 29th August 2014 at 03:21.

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    Thanks for all the insight and research put forth here Bob.

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