Russell Brand: Time for a spiritual revolution

[Dorjezigzag]

I will remember that he is a higher up mason, this in its self should make people sit up and take notice

Not according to him, I think the comment comes in at about 4mins

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=n5oM0UgoCR0

Russel Brand bashing seems to have got more prevalent once his socialist leanings have become more apparent, I understand the critiques against socialism as I do against libertarianism, but what is more important for me is that he is aware of the situation and he is trying to do something and is bringing awareness to people who otherwise would not consider these issues.

Someone who has recovered from addiction should be highly respected in my opinion, he has been to hell and has found a way out, that takes self discipline.

[Bongo]

Posted by Skyhaven (here)

Posted by Bongo (here)
Was it really necessary to try and counter act the perceived negativity?

I generally don't care much about the negativity, but I do care about how other people here feel about these kinds of reactions. In essence I was supporting Leena here...

Basically the reason I commented about it is that given the amount of arguments on this website about negativity, when you read them back they all just sound the same regardless of the topic. It seems the people get caught up in them very easily and it would be good to see if people can stop just for a second and say is it really necessary to address someone else’s comment that is perceived as negative and get back on to the topic at hand. I am in no way advocating abusive behaviour which should not be tolerated at all. Given some of the comments that are perceived as negative, don't react to them while knowing what they are about and move on. The more you react the more they seem to affect you. Hopefully this helps people that feel the need to address the negativity head on, fighting fire with fire usually doesn't work.

This wasn't a dig at you or leena, just some thoughts on the subject that will hopefully help anyone who reads it.

Posted by Dorjezigzag (here)

I will remember that he is a higher up mason, this in its self should make people sit up and take notice

Not according to him, I think the comment comes in at about 4mins

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=n5oM0UgoCR0

Russel Brand bashing seems to have got more prevalent once his socialist leanings have become more apparent, I understand the critiques against socialism as I do against libertarianism, but what is more important for me is that he is aware of the situation and he is trying to do something and is bringing awareness to people who otherwise would not consider these issues.

Someone who has recovered from addiction should be highly respected in my opinion, he has been to hell and has found a way out, that takes self discipline.

Him bringing awareness to people that would otherwise not look at these subjects is a good thing, don’t get me wrong. It’s his end game that I question whether he will try to steer the movement to something that reflects the elites plans.

If anything that I have said can be disproved, I will accept it as fact.

[Dorjezigzag]

If anything that I have said can be disproved, I will accept it as fact

Should n't truth be based on evidence rather than no evidence, with that train of thinking I could say Russel Brand is actually a lizard, prove that he is not ?

O wait a minute someone probably already has said that

My point, if you have hard evidence that Russel Brand is a high up Mason, present it, he has gone on camera stating he is not so that would make him a liar.

If you don't have any evidence, then you're accusation is groundless.

You may have a feeling about someone but are you sure this feeling is based on reality or just a dislike because he does not share your world view.

[Daozen]

I've got mixed feelings about him. I used to like him a lot because of his intelligence and wit. Is an ex smackhead a spiritual role model? You couldn't get better. He hit rock bottom and transformed himself, you can't get more inspiring than that.

But.... with his blabbering and lack of real solutions, people are losing patience. He's coming off as a gatekeeper as time wears on.

Talking smack about smackheads won't get Earth anywhere. I'm going to write the fkr an open letter, to get him to put up or shut up.

This is the era of open letters. I'll put it on Titanpad, so anyone can pitch in...

Start thinking, what would you tell the guy?

Is he genuine? We'll know by Christmas.

[Bongo]

Posted by Dorjezigzag (here)

Should n't truth be based on evidence rather than no evidence, with that train of thinking I could say Russel Brand is actually a lizard, prove that he is not ?

O wait a minute someone probably already has said that

My point, if you have hard evidence that Russel Brand is a high up Mason, present it, he has gone on camera stating he is not so that would make him a liar.

If you don't have any evidence, then you're accusation is groundless.

You may have a feeling about someone but are you sure this feeling is based on reality or just a dislike because he does not share your world view.

You misinterpret me and have jumped to the conclusion that I will not look at evidence, this is not true at all.

If there is evidence that he is not then fair enough, like I said I will accept it. His word however is not quite a good example of evidence, merely words out of a humans mouth. You need only look at a politician to see this in full effect some lie so much that they actually start to believe their lies, so not a good example of evidence.

I will have to look in to where I got the masonic reference from but it is to late tonight.

And I actually agree with most of what he has been saying for change to happen, whether he actually holds true rather than steering the movement away from what will benefit the people is my concern as I outlined in two of my previous posts.

[Bongo]

Here is what made me have doubts about him.

Before the embrace of hands.




During the embrace of hands.



The thumb is on a specific knuckle as which is a trait of masonic handshakes.


Here is a picture of him shaking hands with Tom Cruise



Which is just a normal hand shake.



And another normal handshake.

I understand that this is only evidence from 2 shots of when he shook hands with the queen but it is enough to put doubt in my mind that he is actually a mason.


Also here are 2 interesting handshakes by the queen

Normal handshake




Masonic handshake




Same person, took a few seconds after and the handshake remains the same.

[Dorjezigzag]

You misinterpret me and have jumped to the conclusion that I will not look at evidence

If you reread my post you will see I have made no conclusion, I have just not seen you present any evidence, I even asked you to present it because I would be genuinely interested to hear it. Why would I ask for something if I do not consider the possibility that you may have it?

I am merely presenting the evidence that you as yet, regarding this issue, have presented no evidence regarding Russel Brand being a high degree mason. I have no ill feeling towards you and I have no opinion or conclusion, except perhaps that you are a fan of the Simpsons. Although appearances can be deceiving.


edit:Ok Just seen the handshake thing

Who has not had the handshake "evidence".

David Icke famously had it, I think even Bill Ryan has had it.

This is not conclusive evidence that he is a high ranking mason, you could say that you believe that he is, but it is not a statement of fact





by the way I do not believe Bill is a Mason!
but I guess I cannot prove he is not

[Bongo]

Posted by Dorjezigzag (here)

You misinterpret me and have jumped to the conclusion that I will not look at evidence

If you reread my post you will see I have made no conclusion, I have just not seen you present any evidence, I even asked you to present it because I would be genuinely interested to hear it. Why would I ask for something if I do not consider the possibility that you may have it?

I am merely presenting the evidence that you as yet, regarding this issue, have presented no evidence regarding Russel Brand being a high degree mason. I have no ill feeling towards you and I have no opinion or conclusion, except perhaps that you are a fan of the Simpsons. Although appearances can be deceiving.


edit:Ok Just seen the handshake thing

Who has not had the handshake "evidence".

David Icke famously had it, I think even Bill Ryan has had it.

This is not conclusive evidence that he is a high ranking mason, you could say I believe that he is, but it is not a statement of fact

I will take back the high ranking statement, it would be impossible to know unless I was a mason myself which I am not. Being in show business would give the idea that he is a trusted member and thus high up which is only speculation on my part. I do have speculation as to this but it is circumstantial (goes on the idea that he is a mason) so I will not mention it here, that was in my mind as I wrote the first post which is why I said high up mason. I should not have said that.

But it still remains that those pictures create doubt.

The song he is singing is the right one for just now and if he holds true and sticks to it I will gladly hold my hands up and say I was wrong but until then I will continue to have doubts about him.

BTW The Simpsons is brilliant & I also like doughnuts haha

[Bongo]

I do see and realise your point it can be easy to misconstrue a picture of a handshake when it is a grasp of the fingers as in the picture of Bill. I don't think he is a mason either.

I have just watched the video and it was Alfred that went straight for Bills fingers rather than his hand, for all we know Alfred could be a mason and he was checking to see if Bill was to. That of course is only speculation. But in all honesty it does just look like a grasp of the fingers.

[aheb]

I don't think that you even need to consider whether Russy is a mason or not. You can judge him solely by what he has done. He was a drug addict, so he says and if it's true then it was his choice..he has led a hedonistic and disrespectful life, he has treated women very shallowly and he is a multi millionare.
If he hates money so much then why doesn't he give his money away and possibly to the people that he has been disrespectful to, that may be a good start.
He talks in a rather verbose manner ( I am slightly reminded of the put down to Disraeli by Gladstone " You are a sophistical reterition enebriated by the exhuberance of your own verbosity " ) now I have a feeling that if you said that to russy he wouldn't have a clue what you had said even though he talks about "Couternance of corporate power" he is basically a psuedo intellectual.........he doesn't understand politics either.
He says that he is a socialist ( a champagne socialist like blair or browne, who wants to keep his money)..and lets be honest Hitler said that he was a socialist as well..........in short, russ is a very rich, hedonistic, hypocritical, politically uneducated, self publicist.
That is the reason you shouldn't listen to him............I doubt that he could even get into the masons.

[Dorjezigzag]

Something for everyone here

Russel Brand does another deconstruction of Fox propaganda

Others may like to use the pause button and freeze any dodgy eyes and handshakes

Aheb can find a wealth of further insults of Russel Brand by the lovely, clean cut, drug free and generally all out angelic (yeah right!) presenters of Fox news to enjoy and perhaps hurl at a future date.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5YK-kb2LsYE

[aheb]

Aheb can find a wealth of further insults of Russel Brand by the lovely, clean cut, drug free and generally all out angelic (yeah right!) presenters of Fox news to enjoy and perhaps hurl at a future date.

Well seeing my name was mentioned
I wasn't going to say anymore about little russy, because I find him nauseating but here goes.
If you look at the thread about spotting psychopaths you will see that russ fits one of the criteria.
He likes to appear a victim. he has a disease so he says called addiction.not a proper diesase like cancer though, and we must all sympahise with him, although he shows precious little sympathy for others that I have .
mentioned, and downright venom for some others I mean how dare Jason Riley be succesfull !! doesn't he realize that he is black and he should be robbing corner stores to get cigars to make his blunts? he is a disgrace to his race.
I'm not really familiar with American news agencies, but everything they said about russ was true, so why is he playing the victim?
I do agree with russ on one thing " The deifictation and canonisation of trivia".russ needs to go.

He has also shown that he knows as little about climate change as he does about politics.
He called it " Global warming" nobody calls it that now. You may remember last year a research ship was trapped in the arctic ice when she went to prove global warming. The concept of global warming is now called "climate change" , because it doesn't really fit with the agenda 22 ideas. Basically there is a lot more going on than we realise and we may be heading for a new mini ice age. Although man has contributed to destruction of the planet with pollution etc, what we are now seeing is probaly in the most part due to star weather and the impact of our sun. The agenda 22 proponents don't want us to know that though, so russ is slipping in a few sound bites for his mates in the nwo

[Bongo]

Posted by Dorjezigzag (here)
Others may like to use the pause button and freeze any dodgy eyes and handshakes

Dodgy eyes I will just not bother watching, but thanks all the same.

There is something I am curious about since you follow him and I assume you watch lots of his videos... is there actually a video of him denying definitively that he is not a mason e.g. "No, I am not a mason" rather than his broken record answer "eh, I don't think you can be a mason if you have a criminal record" I have actually seen a few videos where he has the exact same response and found it curious because he makes that statement and lets the viewer decide its meaning.


Here is a masonic lodge website clearly stating that anyone with an unspent criminal record will not be accepted

He must be of good character. Men with "unspent" criminal records will not be accepted.

http://www.victorylodge4189.co.uk/be..._freemason.htm


Here is a description of an unspent criminal record

http://www.ehow.co.uk/about_6566864_...ons-mean_.html

Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974

The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 (ROA) is legislation that was passed by the Parliament of the United Kingdom which created the system of spent and unspent convictions. The act applies to offenders in England, Scotland and Wales. These laws were designed to help people avoid a permanent criminal record for minor offences and minimise ex-offender employment discrimination. This act contains all the provisions for spent and unspent convictions, including eligibility, time frames, and the specific allowances for each type of infraction.

Difference between spent and unspent convictions

Someone who was convicted of a criminal offence and given a prison sentence of not more than two and a-half years is eligible to enter a "rehabilitation period" that begins from the date of the conviction. The duration of the period depends on the sentence given by the court. Once this period is ended and all penalties--like jail sentences, fines or probation--have been complied with, the conviction becomes "spent" and the offender's record is wiped clean. Jail sentences of more than two and a-half years are not eligible for the rehabilitation period. These types of offences, known as unspent convictions, are never removed from the offender's criminal record.

Effects

There have been instances of employers dismissing an applicant solely based on any unspent convictions the prospective employee has, despite laws in the UK forbidding this practice. An ex-offender attempting to enter a university or training institution may be denied if the facility determines the unspent convictions signal the person poses a threat to others. Some arms of the military forces will not take applicants who have unspent criminal convictions, and ex-offenders who are trying to obtain legal residency are routinely denied.

Disclosure under the Police Act of 1997

According to the Police Act of 1997, ex-offenders must disclose any unspent convictions to a prospective employer when applying for a job if this information is requested or required. The employer can ask the applicant to obtain one of three types of disclosures available: Basic Disclosure, Standard Disclosure, and Enhanced Disclosure. All three certificates will list unspent criminal convictions, and Enhanced Disclosures show information from local police authorities and other public agencies. An employer has the right to terminate an employee who did not disclose unspent convictions if asked at the time of hire, and the employee can be prosecuted.

Misconceptions

The length of the ordered jail term at the time of sentencing is what is used to determine if a conviction can be spent or must remain unspent. For example, a person given three years in prison who was released on parole after one year will have an unspent conviction on record. If someone commits another offence while already in a rehabilitation period to have another conviction spent, both offences may become unspent under certain circumstances. If the new offence is tried in the Crown Court and a sentence of more than two and a-half years is given, both convictions will become unspent.

[Brakeman]

What's wrong with being a Freemason?



A spiritual revolution?

That's cool.

I just hope it turns out better than this past Piscean religious revolution.

[aheb]

Posted by aheb (here)
Aheb can find a wealth of further insults of Russel Brand by the lovely, clean cut, drug free and generally all out angelic (yeah right!) presenters of Fox news to enjoy and perhaps hurl at a future date.

Well seeing my name was mentioned
I wasn't going to say anymore about little russy, because I find him nauseating but here goes.
If you look at the thread about spotting psychopaths you will see that russ fits one of the criteria.
He likes to appear a victim. he has a disease so he says called addiction.not a proper diesase like cancer though, and we must all sympahise with him, although he shows precious little sympathy for others that I have .
mentioned, and downright venom for some others I mean how dare Jason Riley be succesfull !! doesn't he realize that he is black and he should be robbing corner stores to get cigars to make his blunts? he is a disgrace to his race.
I'm not really familiar with American news agencies, but everything they said about russ was true, so why is he playing the victim?
I do agree with russ on one thing " The deifictation and canonisation of trivia".russ needs to go.

He has also shown that he knows as little about climate change as he does about politics.
He called it " Global warming" nobody calls it that now. You may remember last year a research ship was trapped in the arctic ice when she went to prove global warming. The concept of global warming is now called "climate change" , because it doesn't really fit with the agenda 22 ideas. Basically there is a lot more going on than we realise and we may be heading for a new mini ice age. Although man has contributed to destruction of the planet with pollution etc, what we are now seeing is probaly in the most part due to star weather and the impact of our sun. The agenda 22 proponents don't want us to know that though, so russ is slipping in a few sound bites for his mates in the nwo

That reminds me of Stevan Segal....When asked if he worked for the CIA he always says " I have always strenuosly denied that"..........he could have just said NO lol.

[gini]

GO RUSSEL BRAND - KICKING MSNBC'S FAKE NEWS BOOM BOOM--5/3/23--3 min--
Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video//MambGiKuF6EV/

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-Russell Brand and Tucker Carlson talk spirituality and fame
-- Mar 8, 2023 --4 min--
Fox News host Tucker Carlson previews his conversation with actor, comedian, and podcast host Russell Brand on 'Tucker Carlson Today'--

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BXY62OU8ZKg

Overtime: Sen. Bernie Sanders, Russell Brand, John Heilemann | Real Time with Bill Maher ---4/3/23//12 min-

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DGVe0R7uLYI

[Mark]

I like him also. His background makes him even more compelling. He's evolved exponentially in recent years. He had a pretty good appearance on HBO, Bill Maher's show. He basically took it over for a while lol

[Mari]

I just can't make up my mind about him. Apart from the fact that I find his 'delivery' irritating (my problem) I hear he's married (or was) to a Rothschild? I can't get beyond that.
Controlled Op? I don't know for sure.

[mizo]

I've never been sure about him, he can be amusing as well as somewhat annoying.

He does speak out about the vax ... but he's working in the US so he was either jabbed to be able to gain entry, or he had a placebo.
Either way that feels off.