BREAKING! Ukrainian President Announces Permanent Ceasefire Agreement With Russia

[Kimberley]

Great News!!! Whooo Hooo!!!! Congratulations!!! Much love to us all!!!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=COLBdryjcfY

And this article just posted...


Putin proposes peace plan as Russian-Ukrainian 'ceasefire' begins to unravel
Russian president calls for Ukrainian withdrawal from east as Poroshenko backtracks on truce earlier hailed as 'permanent'.
theguardian.com, Wednesday 3 September 2014 12.04 EDT


http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...agreement-kiev

[Kimberley]

And this.....

Ukraine ceasefire: live
Russia and Ukraine "reach ceasefire" in eastern Ukraine, President Petro Poroshenko announces - follow live updates

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...fire-live.html

[Hogswitch]

How can Putin agree to a ceasefire in a conflict in which he denies any military participation? I think that, unfortunately, it's a little too early for celebrations.

[Snookie]

An analyst on RT speculates that this is just a ploy by Poroshenko to buy time until NATO forces can arrive to assist the Ukrainian forces. Poroshenko is notoriously unreliable in his dealings with others.

[Kimberley]

I say WW111 will NEVER happen.

I greatly appreciate all the help that we are getting however we the humans have done an excellent job in co-creating the "new" earth time line.

This is what I keep shouting from the roof tops... "I (Kimberley) would not have signed up to be here on earth at this time if the outcome was not victorious."

And I personally know hundreds of others that agree with me. How about YOU?

I know that I have created a peaceful personal environment and that took years of personal "work" to accomplish.

And I know that humans are all on different parts of a personal path and it is not for me to judge any of them or it.

Keep up the good "work" Much love to us all!

[Cidersomerset]

Russia is not at war with the Ukraine , so be cautiously optimistic that a ceasefire
between the combatants will be secured long term....The rebels have been
pushing Kiev forces back in the last few days, so this could be a ploy to stop
the momentum of the attacks.

The situation is fluid and with the NATO summit in Cardiff coming up this looks
like political positioning by all sides.....

Some very good reports from RT , with good independent analysts and experts...

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Ceasefire timing: 'Ukraine army pushed back, Poroshenko desperate'

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=l9YTU3Ri4DY

Published on 3 Sep 2014


President Poroshenko announces ceasefire in eastern Ukraine following phone call
between him and President Putin. Kremlin later underlined leaders just 'largely
agreed on possible steps toward ceasefire' as long as Russia isn’t a party to the
violence.
FULL STORY: http://on.rt.com/x4d3hg

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'Ceasefire flip-flopping shows Poroshenko govt’s extreme inconsistency'

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SqEP5v6TtRg

Published on 3 Sep 2014


Kiev retracted its earlier statement regarding a “permanent ceasefire” in eastern Ukraine,
which followed a phone call between the Russian and Ukrainian leaders. The new wording
from Poroshenko’s office talks of a ceasefire “regime”. John Laughland, who's written
extensively on international affairs, joins RT to discuss recent developments.

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Putin's 7-step Ukraine peace roadmap

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WTeTBG6eYA4

Published on 3 Sep 2014


Kiev must withdraw troops from southeastern regions of Ukraine and rebels must stop
offensive to stop bloodshed, Russia’s President Vladimir Putin says. He and Ukrainian
leader Petro Poroshenko discussed "a ceasefire regime." READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/eqeq4j

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Ceasefire timing: 'Ukraine army pushed back, Poroshenko desperate'

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2lJ9Nm9MFqI

Published on 3 Sep 2014


President Poroshenko announces ceasefire in eastern Ukraine following phone call
between him and President Putin. Kremlin later underlined leaders just 'largely
agreed on possible steps toward ceasefire' as long as Russia isn’t a party to the
violence.

[Hervé]

Jeeezzzz...

Just take a look at that video presentation display frame:

LIVE CNN

BEAKING NEWS: Ukrainian Forces Fighting Russian Troops

Officials in Kiev Say Putin has launched "a great war"

Not sure which alternate Earth these CNN guys live on but it certainly is not the one I am walking on!

[Cidersomerset]

This is the real problem......

Ukraine's full NATO membership idea 'akin to lunacy'

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zzK4d66Laoo

Published on 3 Sep 2014


Kiev expects NATO countries to give Ukraine a status of ‘special partner’,
Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk said Wednesday. However,
the best decision for NATO would be “Ukraine’s membership” of the alliance, he said.

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Bullets flying overhead: RT crew forced to the ground in E. Ukraine

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_pyE6KsgG9M

Published on 3 Sep 2014


RT's Paula Slier was caught in a gun battle between anti-government forces and Kiev's army in eastern Ukraine.

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I have not heard this on mainstream yet....

Russian journalist Andrey Stenin confirmed dead in Ukraine

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4WFNL6Wcl70

[Bill Ryan]

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Thanks for posting this... I've been watching it closely all day. The next 48 hours may be very important. If Putin and Poroshenko can reach accord, whatever it might be called, that's a GOOD thing.

I'm getting my updates from Russia Today... CNN and the BBC are not reliable, and are heavily filtered, CNN especially so.

[Hogswitch]

I see that there are several reports from RT news in this thread, please be aware that RT most likely has it's own agenda and take what you see and hear from them with a large pinch of salt. Apologies to anyone for whom this is too obvious to point out.

http://notsoreviews.wordpress.com/20...oday-is-trash/

Heh, just saw Bill Ryan's post supportive of RT News, just shows how difficult it is to know who to trust when it comes to news reporting. But it's listening to guys like Bill that have made me question everything, so no apologies for this post, just think for yourself, always.
Hog.

[Cidersomerset]

I see that there are several reports from RT news in this thread, please be aware that RT most likely has it's own agenda and take what you see and hear from them with a large pinch of salt. Apologies to anyone for whom this is too obvious to point out.

http://notsoreviews.wordpress.com/20...oday-is-trash/

They use better independent journalists than the mainstream. They
may have different takes from the west , but in general they are
very good imo.

Thanks for posting this... I've been watching it closely all day. The next 48 hours may be very important. If Putin and Poroshenko can reach accord, whatever it might be called, that's a GOOD thing.

I'm getting my updates from Russia Today... CNN and the BBC are not reliable, and are heavily filtered, CNN especially so.

The best reports are definitely from RT who have journalists on the ground......


An article from David Ickes site earlier...


Kafkaesque NATO & Rasmussen

Wednesday 3rd September 2014 at 08:03 By david-icke





‘This was the former Prime Minister of Denmark, an undistinguished professional politician whose whole world has
been nothing but words on paper. Currently Rasmussen represents NATO, as a puppet, in the world of politics which
has become the step-child most noted for global criminal-activity around the planet. Rasmussen has been at the
helm since August of 2009, which means he was there when Syria was first attacked and when Libya was publicly
exterminated: Now he wants NATO to do the same thing to Russia.

Rasmussen along with Obama & Israel ought to be on trial in the Hague for Warcrimes, Genocide and Crimes
against Humanity ­but instead he’s racing around trying desperately to create another illegal first strike military
capability, on the cheap, to start WWIII.’

Read more: Kafkaesque NATO & Rasmussen

http://www.rense.com/general96/kafka.html

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3 September 2014 Last updated at 17:02 page

Ukraine crisis: Putin hopes for peace deal by Friday

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29042561

[Cidersomerset]

I posted this on another thread and its an interesting discussion how
the political situation has developed over the last 25 years....


CrossTalk: Russia's Worldview (ft. Ray McGovern)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Lspli7CubV8

Published on 25 Aug 2014


Russia's worldview of international politics is largely neglected in western media.
Nevertheless, Russia has its national interests and red lines. What is the world
according to Russia? CrossTalking with Martin McCauley, Nebojsa Malic and Ray McGovern.

[ghostrider]

Peace is the only way , after the bombs stop dropping and machine guns stop firing , someone has to sit at the table , and let cooler heads prevail ... earth has had enough humans slaughtered ...

[Kimberley]

This is how I see it...

[Daozen]

Posted by Kimberley (here)
I say WW111 will NEVER happen.

"I (Kimberley) would not have signed up to be here on earth at this time if the outcome was not victorious."

Yes, but there are millions of us. And billions are on our side. There's about 100,000 to a few million against us, and the rest are shades of neutral. And the tide is turning in our favour.

I hope the ceasefire holds. It could be a ploy, as Snookie says, but lets see.

Peace on Earth.

[Daozen]

Posted by Hogswitch (here)
I see that there are several reports from RT news in this thread, please be aware that RT most likely has it's own agenda and take what you see and hear from them with a large pinch of salt. Apologies to anyone for whom this is too obvious to point out.

Yeah. RT is suspect, right? Not like those objective, independent, agenda free journalists at Fox, CNN and the BBC.

[Nick Matkin]

Don't forget that RT (Russia Today) television is state owned and funded. It is therefore unlikely to be any more balanced and impartial than other TV channels. It's just a mouthpiece of the Russian government and as such will obviously skew its reporting accordingly.

Nick

[Cidersomerset]

.
Putin's Ukraine Peace Plan

By Stephen Lendman
9-3-14



Ukraine is America's newest colony. Behind the scenes, Washington runs things. It's putschist-installed regime is a convenient proxy.

Southeastern Ukraine is Obama's war. Ending it is as simple as him calling off his dogs. He wants war, not peace.

He wants another puppet regime Washington controls. He wants Ukraine incorporated into NATO.

It shares a nearly 1.500 land and sea border with Russia. As a NATO member, it's a dagger threatening Russia's security.

It risks East/West confrontation. It's madness if it erupts.

Putin is geopolitically polar opposite Obama. He's not revanchist. He has no territorial ambitions. He doesn't threaten his neighbors.

He supports multi-world polarity. He believes sovereign independence is inviolable.

He wants conflicts resolved diplomatically. He deplores war. He champions peace.

Following a working visit to Mongolia, he answered journalists' questions. In response to one, he explained his seven-point peace plan, saying:

"On the way here from Blagoveshchensk to Ulan Bator, I jotted down a few thoughts that could constitute an action plan of sorts."

It challenges Washington's regional hegemonic ambitions. It depends on war and conquest. Peace defeats its agenda.

Putin continued saying:

"True, I have only these notes that I jotted down, but I can read them to you if you want."

"In order to stop the bloodshed and stabilise the situation in southeast Ukraine, I believe that the parties to the conflict should immediately
agree on and coordinate the following steps:"

"First, end active offensive operations by armed forces, armed units and militia groups in southeast Ukraine in the Donetsk and Lugansk areas."

"Second, withdraw Ukrainian armed forces units to a distance that would make it impossible to fire on populated areas using artillery and
all types of multiple launch rocket systems."

"Third, allow for full and objective international monitoring of compliance with the ceasefire and monitoring of the situation in the safe zone
created by the ceasefire."

"Fourth, exclude all use of military aircraft against civilians and populated areas in the conflict zone."

"Fifth, organise the exchange of individuals detained by force on an all for all basis without any preconditions."

"Sixth, open humanitarian corridors for refugees and for delivering humanitarian cargoes to towns and populated areas in Donbass ­ Donetsk
and Lugansk Regions."

"Seventh, make it possible for repair brigades to come to damaged settlements in the Donbass region in order to repair and rebuild social
facilities and life-supporting infrastructure and help the region to prepare for the winter."

"I think that the Kiev authorities and the representatives of southeast Ukraine could come to basic agreements and cement them at the
contact group’s planned meeting on September 5."

"I want to note that this statement and all I just said follow on from the telephone conversation with President Poroshenko that you asked about."

"I hope very much that Ukraine's government will support the emerging progress in bilateral relations and make use of the positive
opportunity the contact group's work provides to bring about final and comprehensive settlement to the situation in southeast Ukraine,
in full and unconditional respect for the lawful rights of those who live there of course."

"That is all I have to say. I have nothing to add. Thank you."

Putin genuinely wants just peace. He's gone all-out for it throughout months of conflict. Washington rebuffs him. So does Kiev.

Oligarch president Poroshenko talks peace. He deplores it. He wages war.

Conflict resolution remains distant. Southeastern Ukrainian civilians in the line of fire suffer most.

Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) Prime Minister Aleksandr Sakharchenko expressed willingness to end fighting.

But only if Kiev forces, its Right Sector battalions and mercenaries agree to ceasefire terms. They can't be trusted.

They previously sabotaged deals, said Zakharchenko. So did Kiev on orders from Washington.

German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier expressed willingness "to assist (the path for peace) via either repeating
(the earlier failed Geneva process) or through other international formats."

Ukraine's illegitimate prime minister Arseniy Yatsenuk lied claiming Putin wants Ukraine destroyed. He wants a Greater Russia,
he said. He wants nothing of the sort.

His plan is "an attempt of eyewash for the international community ahead of the (September 4 and 5) NATO summit and an
attempt to avoid inevitable decisions from the EU on the new wave of sanctions against Russia," said Yatsenyuk.

"We are waiting for decisions from NATO and the EU on how to stop the aggressor."

Ukraine's peace plan includes one point, he added: withdrawing (nonexistent) Russian troops from Ukraine. "And then there will be peace," he claimed.

Previous peace efforts failed. Russia's good faith efforts were sabotaged. Kiev violated agreed on terms straightaway. Washington calls the shots.

It bears repeating. Peace defeats its agenda. War serves its hegemonic ambitions.

Thousands of civilian casualties are a small price to pay. So are hundreds of thousands displaced.

War without mercy continues. NATO's September 4 and 5 summit bears watching.

Expect Washington to manipulate talks. Expect Russia accused of US-led Western and Ukrainian crimes.

Expect anti-Russian military policies agreed on. Expect more sanctions to follow.

Expect conflict to continue. Expect peace to remain a distant hope.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago. He can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.

His new book as editor and contributor is titled "Flashpoint in Ukraine: US Drive for Hegemony Risks WW III."

http://www.claritypress.com/LendmanIII.html

Visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com.

Listen to cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on the Progressive Radio News Hour on the Progressive Radio Network.

It airs three times weekly: live on Sundays at 1PM Central time plus two prerecorded archived programs.

http://www.progressiveradionetwork.c...sive-news-hour

http://www.rense.com/general96/putinsukraine.html

[Cidersomerset]

Don't forget that RT (Russia Today) television is state owned and funded. It is therefore unlikely to be any
more balanced and impartial than other TV channels. It's just a mouthpiece of the Russian government and as such will obviously skew its reporting accordingly.

Nick

This has been pointed out , but RT so far has had the best balanced reports on the subject with good analysts and
independent journalists/bloggers. This one is not very optimistic this ceasefire will hold...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oARHJ_CNUkI

Published on 3 Sep 2014


Vladimir Putin proposes steps for peace between Ukraine's warring sides after a
phone conversation with his Ukrainian counterpart. On "IN the NOW" Anissa Naouai
talks about the peace plan, media confusion and Ukraine conflict with political
scientist Brad Cabana

[Cidersomerset]

CrossTalk: Kiev in Retreat

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CfvoTACizDw

Published on 3 Sep 2014


Ukraine's civil war has grounded in stalemate and the economy is crashing.
This has created an opening for dialogue. Will all parties seize the moment
or will Moscow continue to be blamed?

CrossTalking with Karel van Wolferen, Neil Clark and Gilbert Doctorow.