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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    East Anglia was also sprayed from truck and plane ........

    Clouds of Secrecy



    Published on 17 May 2012


    The groundbreaking UK television documentary - Clouds of Secrecy - exclusively reveals details
    of formerly classified UK Government Biological Warfare public area experiments. In particular
    the documentary reveals how, during 1963 and 1964, scientists from the UK Government's Chemical
    and Biological Warfare research facility at Porton Down used a de Havilland DH-104 Devon aircraft to
    repeatedly spray the county of Norfolk (the city of Norwich being the main target) with a hazardous
    material - Zinc Cadmium sulphide (ZnCds). A recently declassified MOD document reveals that,
    inexplicably, Porton scientists didn't subject the ZnCds for toxicity testing prior to spraying the
    material in populated areas. The programme also includes details of newly discovered Porton Down
    ZnCds spraying experiments, which were conducted in populated areas of Bedfordshire. The latter
    Bedfordshire experiments involved the use of Porton Down's clandestine spray vehicle - an especially
    adapted 1 Ton Morris Commercial Van. This enabled Porton scientists to secretly spray material
    without the local population becoming aware. The programme also draws attention to recent allegations
    that a much higher level of oesophageal cancer exists in the Norfolk area, compared with the average
    levels reported in the rest of the UK. It also includes an interview with Professor Sir Peter Lachmann -
    co-author of a Ministry of Defence commissioned investigation of Porton Down's past ZnCds spraying programme.


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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    Also Dorset.....

    BBC Spotlight Porton Down Spraying of Dorset with Zinc Cadmium sulphide .wmv



    Uploaded on 21 Dec 2009


    BBC Spotlight exclusive reveals a Porton Down spray trial which went wrong, contaminating
    South Dorset with higher levels of a hazardous Cadmium compound than the rest of England
    and Wales - in fact over 1,000 times higher! Porton sprayed large amounts of this BW simulant
    over populated areas in order to investigate how a BW aerosol might disperse across the UK.
    Similar Porton Down experiments were conducted in public areas of the UK between the years
    1953-64. What makes these experiments especially dangerous is the fact that the Zinc Cadmium
    sulphide aerosols were formed by particles which were designed to be of a size which would
    evade the body's natural defences, and penetrate the deepest part of the lungs - the alvioli.

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    The Lyme Bay Trials 1966 ....Official film....





    Published on 1 Jul 2013


    This declassified MOD film is the uncensored version. It contains the following end-statement which the MOD,
    for reasons as yet unknown, removed from the version made available to the press a number of years ago.

    "Whilst these trials were designed for specific research purposes, they demonstrated, in a striking way, the
    feasibility of small scale biological warfare.An appreciable dose of viable bacteria was achieved over an area
    greater than 1,000 square miles by the release of only 120 gallons of suspension."

    During the early 1960s, scientists from the Microbiological Research Establishment Porton Down were tasked
    to investigate whether similar results could be obtained by using live bacteria instead of the chemical compound
    (ZnCds) that was used in previous experiments. According to declassified MRE Porton Down documents, South
    Dorset was eventually selected as the trials site because it met with three important, and still valid, requirements.

    (1) Lyme Bay is semi-circular (radius 25-30 miles) which allows the use of any wind direction between 070
    through south to 280 degrees.

    (2) It has a nearby dockyard (Portland Naval Base, now Portland Port PLC) which facilitated the spray ship.

    (3) It is only 50 miles from the laboratories of Porton Down, which enabled overnight examination of
    radioactively labelled antibody samples.

    A suitable base for the mobile laboratory (codename Night Ferry) and control vehicle (Golden Arrow) was
    found at Fleet, a few miles west of Weymouth. This base was Crown Property and overlooked the main
    trials area, Lyme Bay. The nearby Moonfleet Hotel provided accommodation for the MRE Porton scientists.

    The trials procedure was for the spray ship (ETV ICEWHALE) to sail a straight line cross-wind track across
    Lyme Bay, all the while spraying massive amounts of two types of live bacteria from equipment mounted
    on its stern. The resulting massive (Porton's own description) bacterial aerosol cloud was carried onshore
    by the prevailing wind - where mobile teams of Porton scientists attempted to sample the cloud as it
    travelled up to 50 miles inland.

    Two types of live bacteria were released in these field trials: E coli MRE162; and, Bacillus subtilius var
    niger (aka Bacillus globigii or BG).

    MRE Porton Down obtained the Bacillus globigii from the US Army Biological Warfare Laboratory at Fort
    Detrick. In 2004, the US Institute of Medicine (part of the US National Academy of Sciences) identified
    Bacillus globigii as a human pathogen (capable of causing disease in humans).

    The second type of live bacteria that was used in the Lyme Bay Trials, E.coli MRE162, was isolated from
    a toilet bowl at Porton Down during 1949, and given the MRE culture collection number 162. An Independent
    Review of the possible health effects of those exposed to the bacterial aerosols found that any infections
    caused by the release of the massive amounts of bacteria would probably have been restricted to individuals who were
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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    The US had a very large military presence in the UK and Europe as part of NATO,
    so it was logical for them to be involved with these tests. So there is no reason why
    co operation in this field as with others that experiment did not continue and are
    still going on............

    BBC Spotlight reveal 1971 Porton Down & US Army South Dorset Germ Warfare experiments



    Uploaded on 28 Oct 2010


    BBC Spotlight report that Porton Down & US Army repeatedly sprayed populated areas of South Dorset
    with live bacteria during a 1971 series of Germ Warfare experiments. On 16 separate occasions during
    November 1971, massive amounts of a bacterial suspension were sprayed from a ship sailing off the
    South Dorset coast. These bacterial aerosols were carried inland by the wind and over the target area
    (the AUWE compound at Portland Bill), and surrounding South Dorset countryside (including Weymouth
    and Dorchester). Two types of bacteria were sprayed: Inactivated Serratia marcescens (ISM); and live
    Bacillus globigii (BG). A recent US National Academy of Sciences report concludes that Bacillus globigii is
    now considerd to be a human pathogen - an organism capable of causing disease in humans.
    In January 2010, the US Army declassified a scientific report which revealed that in 1975 Porton Down
    and US Army scientists came back to South Dorset and conducted a larger series of similar germ warfare
    tests. The 1975 experiments involved 24 sprayings of ISM and live BG - on occasion, three sprayings per day!

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    BBC Spotlight Porton Down Cold War Germ Warfare Tests in Devon, Somerset and Dorset.wmv




    Uploaded on 28 Oct 2010


    BBC Spotlight broadcast from 1998, giving details of large area coverage Germ Warfare experiments
    conducted by Porton Down scientists in populated areas of Devon, Somerset and Dorset during the 1960's
    and 1970's. Also includes an interview with the family of a deceased Porton scientist, and an interview with
    Professor Brian Spratt FRS. He been recently commissioned by the MOD to conduct an Independent Review,
    investigating whether Porton's experiments had caused any adverse health effects to those exposed to the
    massive bacterial aerosols of live E.col MRE162 and Bacillus globigii.

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    Porton Down CHEMTRAIL experiments 1958




    Published on 18 Mar 2010


    This declassified Porton Down film, which is Crown Copyright, shows a Valetta aircraft making a number of passes in front of the camera -
    all the time spraying the Biological Warfare simulant - Zinc Cadmium sulphide. These particular experiments were conducted during March
    1958, and were conducted to determine the characteristics of an aircraft mounted Zinc Cadmium sulphide dispenser. The resulting information
    was then used in Porton Down's later public area BW experiments, some of which (the Large Area Coverage or LAC) contaminated vast
    swathes of the UK. A BW simulant is a supposedly harmless substance which mimics the physical properties of a real BW agent, in this
    case, size (between 1-5 microns). BW simulants are used in BW experiments in which, for safety reasons, a real BW agent could not be used.

    A similar procedure was adopted for the 1963/64 Norwich Trials. An aircraft, this time a Devon, sprayed the BW simulant Zinc Cadmium
    sulphide, at a rate of 2-3 lbs per mile, as it flew along a 62 nm track across Norfolk - at a distance of 24 miles upwind of the city of Norwich.
    When the massive aerosol cloud reached its target area, Porton Down scientists conducted clandestine sampling of the air at a large number
    of locations, across the city and surrounding countryside.

    For some more info and more videos please see-

    http://www.nr23.net/govt/spray.htm
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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    Now from the WW1 horrific mustard gas attacks on the battlefield, to alleged
    chemical and biological attacks used in various conflicts since, most recently with
    thousands of Gulf war veterans, and Iraqi civilians and chemical attacks in Syria....

    Of course Russia , China and other countries still have these weapons as well as
    Nuclear. Defensive planning is all part of the job for the military and valid for
    the nations security to a point. But it can also be misused and hidden and what
    we know about the reports and experiments above are probably watered down.

    The point is a spraying programmes historically existed , how far it got and has
    advanced into some sort of chemtrail programme is up for debate imo....


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    Ethics do not seem to an obstacle when higher authorities are involved...


    America infected Guatemala citizens for experiments (02Oct10)



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    America deliberately infected people in Guatemala to experiment with treatment of
    syphilis. Why did they not experiment on their own, instead of going around the
    world infecting other people? It's not the first time the Americans have tested on
    people, having sent soldiers to stand in the path of a nuclear explosion after WW2
    in experiments, and the widely documented LSD / magic mushroom experiments.

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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    Hello please friends may I know the very best piece of info to convince a seasone debunker. Thanks so much

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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    Quote Hello please friends may I know the very best piece of info to convince a seasone debunker. Thanks so much
    Debunker:

    1) A person who attempts to expose or discredit claims believed to be false, exaggerated or pretentious. The term is closely associated with skeptical investigation of controversial topics...

    2) To expose the falseness or hollowness of a myth, idea, or belief.

    In a quest for truth and reality, both those descriptions seem to be suggesting positive, virtuous attributes.

    You may have a hard time in your quest. Good luck.

    Nick
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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    Thanks nick, so I think you are clarifying what a debunker is, however for those who are rigorous in their research and still buy the chemtrail idea I am keen to find really strong evidence!

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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    Quote Posted by HugoJudd (here)
    for those who are rigorous in their research and still buy the chemtrail idea I am keen to find really strong evidence!
    What if there is none ?

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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    Oh dear I will have to eat humble pie with some very aggressive characters on Facebook

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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    Hi HJ,

    I'm going over old ground, sorry, but if you could reveal the factories that are making the millions of gallons/tons of the stuff, and transporting it unseen across countries under everyone's noses, or identify someone who works at one of these factories, that would be a good way to convince people.

    Is the spraying is done by commercial jets, or thousands of other aircraft just for the purpose? Special tanks can't just be slung under commercial jets without the connivance of the pilots, and if other, special aircraft are being used, where are they all taking off/landing and where is the support infrastructure for them?

    I'm sure I'll stand corrected, but the only way I can see it being done is as a fuel additive to commercial jets, but since aviation fuel is very carefully monitored at dozens if not hundreds of sites all over the world, I'm not sure how it can be sneaked in without detection; hundreds of personnel will have to be 'in on it'.

    But if it is being done that way, how come all these additives don't damage the sophisticated engines? The cumulative effects are bound to be noticed by the service engineers.

    I find it a fascinating subject and answering these questions will be very helpful.

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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    Quote Posted by HugoJudd (here)
    Oh dear I will have to eat humble pie with some very aggressive characters on Facebook
    Not if you find incontrovertible evidence - but as buares says, only if there is any. Many people believe there is.
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    Oh dear I will have to eat humble pie with some very aggressive characters on Facebook
    Cloud seeding is real, spraying crops is real, chemical experimentation on humans happened, there is concrete evidence for that but I was unable to find proof of a mass population spraying program so far. Let's hope that Dane Winington will be able to demonstrate the veracity of these claims.

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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    Thanks, these are excellent questions, particularly when one considers that the spraying is said to be very widespread. The mind boggles.

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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    Jesse Ventura's take:

    Counter-Conspiracy: Chemtrails | Jesse Ventura Off The Grid


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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    Nick Matkin asked who procures such vast amounts of particulate to spray covertly and globally, I realise we are being sprayed - but by whom and from where? Where are 'their' resources? This vast global spraying must literally have a 'vapour trail' of proliferation via industry, resourcing et al, and funding. Yet it appears to be funded indeterminably by WHOM? Is there an extraneous 'M' here?
    No doubt. When I was a teenager - the skies were pure, weather was 'normal', and try arguing that with today's children who are used to stripes in the sky, strange cloud descriptions, and they even refer to olde films that have been 'sky-doctored'. I am shot down in flames by the young nay-sayers, even from the farming communities who have been there for generations. They are funded to farm crops that were unbelievably nonsense in their environment years ago, they don't rotate crops, and poison the atmosphere with chemicals to grow stuff that is useless to eat - only for bio-fuels. They get major money from the EU, so they just 'put-up and shut-up' = all to do with £££££££!
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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    Quote Posted by buares (here)
    Cloud seeding is real, spraying crops is real, chemical experimentation on humans happened, there is concrete evidence for that but I was unable to find proof of a mass population spraying program so far. Let's hope that Dane Winington will be able to demonstrate the veracity of these claims.
    That's probably it in a nutshell. Combined with the fact that the number of aircraft has expanded hugely in the past 30-odd years, so of course there are more con trails now. Perhaps those facts have been been conflated into the whole chemtrail conspiracy thing.

    This subject has surely been done to death on this forum, and I doubt any more new material will be posted - but I live in hope.

    New data would be:
    • Where is it being made?
    • Who is making it?
    • Does anyone know anyone who knows someone making it?
    • Where are all the raw materials coming from without distorting the international trading markets for those materials?
    • How is it being transported from manufacturing plant to aircraft?
    • Are there special planes for this?
    • If so where are they kept and who is maintaining them all?
    • Get a number of amateur meteorologists to explain the perceived phenomenon, and does atmospheric physics explain what we see from conventional aircraft exhaust?
    That's more than enough. There are other questions to answer, but these will do for now.

    I appreciate this is a minority opinion here. But these questions surely need addressing if the chemtrail phenomenon is to be exposed.

    (Someone will probably post more videos showing evidence, but that don't answer the above questions.)

    Nick

    Edit: Jesse Ventura is a big noise in the alternative media. I've just watched his video in post #54. I like his questioning 'common sense' (as he calls it) attitude to this subject. A refreshing display of clear thinking. Or is he an obvious CIA-funded disinformation agent...?
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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    Quote Hello please friends may I know the very best piece of info to convince a seasone debunker. Thanks so much
    High Hugo unfortunately as in virtually every subject we discuss there is rarely a silver bullet.

    I've just finished my postal round and its clear blue skies with normal rain clouds its
    been like that all week in this part of Somerset. All I can tell you is that after
    observing the skies closely since 2008 when I first became aware and started
    working outside regularly. I have noticed the difference between Con trails and
    chemtrails and the obvious effect the two leave the sky. Planes of all descriptions
    fly over here daily as I have said in previous posts.

    I have seen white tankers spraying in grids at various times and the the sky change
    from blue to milky white on many occasions. They vary sometimes several days at
    a time or weeks apart, that I've noticed, I have not got the time or inclination to
    sit outside and monitor by the hour, but have watched enough to notice planes are
    leaving very different types of contrails if they are not chemtrails. But this does not
    explain the grids and multi aircraft doing it at the same time, which also occurs.

    My initial thought was military and the two theories that were being suggested
    was creating an ionising atmosphere for over the horizon communications or
    detection , they did explain why . The other more plausible was the anti UV screen
    which has been discussed for decades since the ozone was thinning in certain area.

    If it is only commercial contrails that are far more longer than other planes and
    causing this pollution that seems to be causing all these effects , and planes are
    flying in grids for fun or some other reason fare enough. I think something odd is
    going on and the presentations from Dane Whittington, and Michael Murphy who is
    going to make a third documentary on the subject are very good as with all the other witness's.

    This is a good, relativeley recent interview he answers what is happening
    in the first five minutes and he expands from there....

    Interview with Michael Murphy on Chemtrails




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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    Chemtrails and the Truth of the Government Cover Up (Full Documentary)



    This is a very good documentary explaining the various geo engineering and
    military experiments and programmes that are occurring all the time.....
    She has gone in depth in the subject and many agendas seem to be going
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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?



    This video has been posted before on this forum, but it's worth sharing in this thread.

    Kristen Meghan claims to be an ex-US Air Force bio-environmental engineer. She claims that her job involved her ordering large quantities of the particulates that are allegedly used for geo-engineering.

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    Default Re: Undeniable Footage Of Jet Aircraft Spraying //The Midwest Respiratory Crisis – Infected Chemtrail Beta Test?

    I'm 35, but I remember back when I was in my teens of a clear sky....no "trails" at all. Its funny how people can just over look this or write it off as nothing. Even in movies, TV shows, cartoons, TV Ad's, print AD's and pretty much any media the chem trails are seen. Its just brainwashing people to thinking.."oh, well I guess its normal".
    About a month ago I was sitting outside with my brother whom isnt really into this kinda stuff. But it was a nice day out and as usual you could see chem trails. He looked up and said to me "what are those trails, I dont remember them ever" and I said EXACTLY!

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