Posted by Jake
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Posted by annacherie
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am I taking on the collective issues or are my night terrors my own and how would this translate OB?
My goodness,, yes!! Night terrors translate to ObE... Night terrors are not the same as nightmares. A regular nightmare takes place during REM sleep, the same stage of sleep where we are normally dreaming. A night terror is different. A night terror is caused when a person experiences a shift from one phase of sleep to another,, specifically between Stage 3 non-REM sleep and Stage 4 non-REM sleep,, about 90 minutes into sleep. They are quite a bit more terrifying for people, partly because there is no memory of a dream or there is (seemingly) no cause. Folks who deal with the 'dweller' phenomenon will often times be the same folks who deal with night terrors and/or sleep paralysis. The transition between stage 3, and stage 4 non-REM is the exact place that we are aiming for, when we drop into deep trance. It is the 'borderland dream-state',, where you are not yet dreaming, but you are almost into REM sleep. Folks who wake with great fear, immediately forget why during a sleep terror episode. I would imaging that it is the same fearful state that is pre-cursor OBE,, that keeps lots of us from projecting... Most folks experience night terrors only when they are children,,, (or so they think) Most adults wouldn't admit to it anyways.. lol...
I wouldn't chalk it up to brain chemistry,, though admittedly I do not know,, it is out of the scope of mee knowledge... Though I can say this,, I have gone to different OBE and consciousness workshops and have seen a host of mentally challenged folks,, who are having ObEs.. In fact,, once there was a group of Down Syndrome folks who were quite adept at this knowledge,, and were having ObEs,,, this particular workshop was Hosted by a gal with Down Syndrome... She was one of the most wonderful presenters that I have ever come in contact with...
Annacherrie,,, we are all taking on collective issues,,, that is why it is best to study these things within the mindset of a support group..
I support you, you support me,,, That is the best way forward...
Posted by Ron Mauer Sr
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Last time I had sleep paralysis, somehow I knew that if I blew my breath on my shoulder, the paralysis would end immediately. I blew on my shoulder and it worked. No delay.
Sounds weird, I know, but that is what happened.
I've never remembered any OBE, only sleep paralysis a few times.
That you remember!!
Ron,, we are going to get you up and out of your body!! I can feel your frustration.. With RON as my witness,, we are gong to tackle this!!! (Ha! Ron as my witness,, I like it..)
Posted by gardener2
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I wonder if I might answer that Jake, since childhood I could at will leave my body and go anywhere I travelled at the speed of thought too many stories to tell however, and I am truly not trying to scare people because I loved every minute of astral travel, it was when you mentioned the man in black with the hat he was cloaked I couldn't see his face he was very tall and he spoke to me telepathically, he said my name and although I was in the paralysis state I could not move I thought how do you know my name? he heard my thought and said I have always known you his telepathic voice was very soft and reassuring, he then said come to me sit up and I did it was very strange I looked behind me and saw my body looked like I was fast asleep, then when I turned around all around my bed were these gargoil type creatures and on the floor was what I can only call half human half something else I panicked, he kept saying don't worry they cant touch you my fear was too strong I managed to get back into my body, it didn't end there I was living with my mother and sister at the time and I ran woke everyone up hysterical I couldn't get the words out as soo as I put the lights on every light bulb in the house and even the power points blew there were sparks everywhere, so now everytime I go to the paralysis state I have to fight very hard to come out of it which feels like eternity, so I am very afraid to venture out of my body that fear has never left me.Any advice?
Most folks deal with the Dweller early on in their explorations. The Dweller is there to keep you from projecting. PERIOD! If you begin to Astral Project,, you are re-allocating the Yummy energy-food that the Dweller craves. The Fear-based-dweller is syphoning off your subtle energies, creating great fear and energetic exhaustion.. I am not sure if the Dweller was 'put up to it',,, or he is simply acting on its nature as an astral 'feeder'... Culturally and Historically,, the overall effect of the Dweller has been to keep people paralyzed and vibrating in fear,, so that they don't project,,,,, and they can feed from the loosh..... Many folks have judged the Dweller with quite a bit less credulity,, and see it as simply a fear based thought form... If that is true, then it is an act of our entire collective unconsciousness,, as HatMan and Gargoyle have been a part of peoples journeys out of body throughout history...
Fear is the syphon. Conquer our fears, and we conquer the Universe.
Jake.
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Get a good look at this picture. I scoured the internet and looked over thousands of cool pictures and art in order to find the right visuals for what I am trying to explain. Fortunately, I have found exactly what I was looking for.. In this first picture, notice the yellow pathways that emanate from the head area and down the Torso, and arms and legs. The pathway that goes down the center is called the Central Channel. It is where you bounce and energy ball up and down to stimulate the Primary Centers and stimulate flow. The vibrations that Monroe would 'pull in' would come into his head area, and spread like down the torso and arms and legs, just like in the picture. When you move energy in your arms and legs,, you are stimulating these channels and inducing energy flow. You can force energy through these channels by 'flexing' or 'activating' the Crown Center, and feeling spread downward.. At the same time, it is hard to stop the main, Primary Center Circuit Flow, which feels like adrenaline rushing, and it flow upward, not down... I hope this doesn't sound too confusing. Get a good look and feel of the yellow areas in the picture. It represents one of the 3 main aspects of the energy body. These channels are the blood-flow for the energy body, but they also act as a sort of direct interface with the physical body and how it absorbs and transfers subtle energies. These channels are about as 'structural' as it gets, I look at them as sort of a 'skeleton' of the energy body, as well... To energize these channels, you do the same sort of mobile body awareness techniques as before, except we pay specific attention to moving the point of awareness 'inside' the body rather than just on the surface. Energy balls that are about the sized of a tennis ball is ideal for this. Moving/bouncing energy up and down the main torso channel (not the spine, just in front of it, more inside,,) is the best way to stimulate them all. When you are getting a 'glowy' feeling throughout your body,, try and focus the feeling to 'feel like what this picture looks like'!! Try and feel 'inside' the glowy feeling for the smaller stronger channels. They are there.
Okay, now take a good look at this picture. The energy centers represented are considered Secondary. This is the Secondary Energy Center Circuit. The for in the head area are difficult to isolate from the brow and the crown, when it comes to stimulation. I.E. it is difficult to NOT stimulate one without stimulating the others. These four centers in the head move around a bit, and do not stay in place. You can feel for them and stimulate them. Try and create a 'spinning' feeling in your brain until you feel all the little gizmos inside. There are lots of energetic interchanges going on in there, try and feel for them, and be aware of energetic strobing and/or pulsing. Try and stay relaxed and notice the adrenaline type of rushing feeling coming from your mid torso area. Next are the two centers that are just inside the sensitive part of your collar bones. Pay attention to these for a bit. Once these ones are activated, it is hard to NOT feel them.. lol... The next ones below them (in the green) are little gizmos that seem to swirl like a sideways top. They will spin and whir when you spend enough time with them. Try and simply feel for a tightness, or an electrical glow/hum... The two centers in yellow are more inside the body than the ones above the chest. They are on either side of the Solar Center (primary center) and act as a big and little brother to the Solar Center, (as one of them may feel bigger than the other.) Again, spend some time feeling for them, then move on the next ones... The only difference that I would make to this picture would be to add two more centers,,, one for each hip. The hips are difficult to stimulate, and they feel much deeper and dull like a 'numby aching' inside. I find it hard to stimulate them both at the same time, so I bounce energy balls between them until I get them both glowing. (When you bounce energy between your hips, you will most likely be stimulating the Base Center (primary center) so beware of a strong tightening feeling between your hips, and just up a bit... Energize your knees, and elbows. There are three Secondary centers in each hand and foot. (many more smaller, tertiary centers that we wont map out right now.) I can't stress enough how important it is to stimulate these centers. The hands and feet are also input/output ports for subtle energies. There is one in the ball of each foot, and the palm of each hand. On the foot, we have another center at the base of our heel, and another at the pad of the foot, just before the toes start. These foot centers should be fairly easy to energize. Make sure you get them bunnies fired up!! The same with the hands. You have one in the palm of your hand, the center of your wrist,, and the meaty part of your hand, where you thumb and hand meet,, at the base of your thumb... Get all of these buzzing and humming. They generally respond quite well to stimuli.... The hands and feet are veeerrrrryyyyy important...
Last but not least (in this section) we have the Primary Center Circuit,, otherwise known as the Kundalini Circuit,,, or the Chakra System. I will include some example of how the Hindus looked at it,, but for now I will stick to a more pragmatic approach... Take a good look at this picture,, I'm sure that you have seen one like it... The Primary Centers are real, and do not need to be wrapped in an esoteric or religious wrapper anymore. You can start working with them right away. I would definitely spend some time doing basic energy work in a meditative state before I dropped into a deeper trance and began Primary Center Work. When you work with these centers, try and work with them all, as opposed to just one of them. Try and always work from bottom to top. Start with the Base Center. Find it by bouncing energy between the hips. You will find it somewhere between the hips. Concentrate on stimulating this center until you feel it. Then take a minute to bounce energy from this center all the way to the top of your head. Then move up to a spot just underneath your naval, and inside your gut a bit. You won't find the direct stimulation that you felt in say, your hands. This center is quite big but it is there. You may feel the beginning of a 'rushing' feeling. Let it go up to the top or your head. (Always up with the Primary Circuit) Next go to the Solar center (the one in yellow) This is where we get much of the raw vital energy for astral projection. This is where we feel adrenaline in the physical body. In the non-physical body, it feels much the same, with some potent enhancements,, as it is a non-physical energy. It feels exciting like adrenaline as opposed to the 'electrical' feel of the flow of energy through say, our arms or legs. Next go to the Heart Center. You should be able to get an excited feeling there quite easily. The rushing upwards should be quite natural and instinctive... Again if you aren't feeling anything you may have a blockage,,, move on to the next one. The center of your throat is where this Center is. Spend some time stimulating it and finding it. It is actually quite thick and difficult to move energy through at first. From here,,, just let it all explode out of the top of your head!!! The four secondary centers should be fired up already and your Brow Center will be pulsing and strobing... Beware of all of that,, coupled with immobility and intense vibrations.... lol..... You'll get it. The Primary Center Circuit should be the last thing that you tackle, as you want to try and set up a foundation before you get them flowing, or else it will be much more difficult... 
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