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    DANISH DATA SUPPORT FLUORIDE BEING TOXIC TO BRAIN DEVELOPMENT
    Oct 10, 2023 | By Marianne Lie Becker
    https://fluoridealert.org/news/danis...dt1pYNHCEzAkK4

    "Even an apparently small amount of fluoride transferred from the mother during her pregnancy to the fetus can damage the fetal brain development.

    This association has previously been supported by a multitude of studies, but a new study led by Professor Philippe Grandjean, MD, now documents the linkage in a joint study of more than 1500 mother-child pairs from cohorts in North America, now also including births in Denmark.

    The fluoride concentrations in Danish drinking water are generally low, but they may be complemented by the ingestion of toothpaste and by drinking certain types of black tea. Although fluoride exposures in the Danish women were comparatively low and similar to Canadian women from non-fluoridated cities, the cohorts overlapped in exposure levels, so that the researchers could generate joint conclusions from all the cohorts.

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    In addition to Philippe Grandjean, Professor of Environmental Medicine, University of Southern Denmark, the study authors include colleagues from University of Copenhagen, Odense University Hospital, and researchers from the United States and Canada.

    ADVICE ON AVOIDING ELEVATED EXPOSURE TO FLUORIDE
    Make sure that your community drinking water contains only low fluoride concentrations. If not, consider relying on bottled water that has a confirmed low fluoride level.
    Toothpaste containing fluoride are beneficial, as the fluoride will help strengthen the enamel surface of the teeth so that they will be more resistant against caries. However, the toothpaste should not be swallowed, as absorption of the fluoride will provide no benefit at all and could cause harm.
    Certain types of tea may contain highly increased fluoride levels. Studies suggest that this is true for some black teas from East Africa often used in commercial teabags, as well as some black teas from China, Sri Lanka and India.
    Pregnant women should pay special attention to maintaining a low fluoride exposure.
    Through the new study, the researchers have established a valid method that can be utilized for further research into the effects of repeated low doses of psilocybin. The study also lends support to the numerous anecdotal reports of the benefits of microdosing as a therapeutic intervention.

    The data were examined using the type of statistics applied by regulatory agencies in Europe and the United States. The calculations showed a so-called benchmark level of about 0.3 mg/L, which suggests that water-fluoride concentrations at many locations may not be safe. In the United States and Canada, fluoride is often added to community drinking water at a concentration of 0.7 mg/L with the intension of protecting against caries. However, this level is higher that the safe level that is suggested by the new study. Some countries add fluoride to table salt, also with the aim of benefitting children’s teeth.

    Grandjean says that fluoride is beneficial when it is in contact with the enamel surface of the teeth, but that ingestion of the fluoride does not add any benefit. On the contrary, pregnant women who ingest fluoride will pass it on to the fetus without obtaining any benefit at all. In contrast, the fluoride can reach the highly vulnerable fetal brain and should therefore be minimized or fully avoided.

    *Original full-text article online at: https://www.sdu.dk/en/om_sdu/fakulte...-intelligensen "

    (Fluoride applied to tooth enamel causes fluorosis, so that study needs more study! )
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    New Study: Fluoridated Water Weakens Children's Bones
    Broken Arms Doubled in States With Widespread Fluoridatio

    10/23/23
    https://fluoridealert.dm.networkforg...dtYWlsLmNvbQ==

    "For over fifty years, there have been concerns that fluoridated water and fluoride from other sources may weaken bones and increase the risk of bone fractures. To date, scientific studies have focused on bone fractures in the elderly, especially hip fractures in older women, which are a leading cause of disability and death. This week, the first scientific study of artificial water fluoridation and broken bones in children was published. The article’s title is “Community Water Fluoridation and Rate of Pediatric Fractures” (Lindsay et al 2023).

    Researchers from Oregon Health & Science University found that US states with a high proportion of their population receiving fluoridated water averaged twice the rate of common types of childhood bone fracture as states with relatively little fluoridation. They also looked at the level of fluoride in the water and found that in the group of states with an average concentration of around 0.7 mg/L – the level used in artificial fluoridation – rates of child forearm fractures were 2.5 times greater than in the group of states with the lowest average concentration, which was about 0.4 mg/L.

    The study used nationwide bone fracture data from over 100,000 children aged 4 to 10 years old, at the state level, obtained from insurance records. Water fluoridation information came from CDC public data. The authors concluded, “community water fluoridation proportion by both state and fluoridation levels are associated with the increased rate of fracture in children”.



    X-ray image of Both Bone Forearm Fracture (BBFFx).

    The largest increase was found in the most common type of childhood bone fracture called a Both Bone Forearm Fracture (BBFFx), an example of which is shown in the x-ray image.

    For this type of broken arm, the study’s findings are illustrated by two graphs, drawn from data reported in the paper:




    The graphs show highly significant large-magnitude associations between child forearm fractures and the percent of people fluoridated (left graph) and the average state water fluoride concentration (right graph).

    While the study was a relatively simple design, based on state-level rather than individual-level exposure data, it raises new red flags about fluoride’s effect on skeletal development in young children.

    FAN’s Michael Connett predicted back in 2012, based on a study in Iowa, that fluoride may increase risk of bone fractures in children [Connett 2012a, Connett 2012b]. The Iowa study found evidence of decreased Bone Mineral Density (BMD) in girls in fluoridated areas, especially cortical bone which is the outer layer that gives structural strength to long bones like those in the forearm. Connett said the finding was: “… particularly significant when considering that reductions in cortical bone density are a key mechanism by which fluoride can increase fracture rates.”

    Twenty-one years ago, long before recent higher-quality studies became available, FAN’s Paul Connett made broader predictions of the effects of fluoridated water on bone:

    “… the weight of evidence would suggest that it is highly plausible that exposure to water at 1 ppm … over a whole lifetime will damage human bones and ligaments. It is also probable that this damage will at least lead to the sub-clinical symptoms of skeletal fluorosis, possibly arthritis as well as to hip fractures.”

    Those predictions from 10 and 20 years ago are being born out. Two years ago the evidence that long-term fluoride exposure increases risk of broken bones in older adults was greatly advanced by a high-quality study from Sweden. Last week’s first-ever study on childhood bone fractures now raises concern that just a few years of exposure to fluoridation, during ages when children’s bones are rapidly growing, may substantially increase rates of childhood bone fractures."

    Chris Neurath
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    https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/fluor...in-plain-sight
    An amazing interview about research into fluoridation, where and when in UK, and the ramifications of governmental ’deliberately deaf ears’ on our babies, children, and of course our future health.
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    Quote Posted by avid (here)
    https://www.ukcolumn.org/.../fluoride-the-poisoned...
    An amazing interview about research into fluoridation, where and when in UK, and the ramifications of governmental ’deliberately deaf ears’ on our babies, children, and of course our future health.
    Thanks, but I can't get the link to work for me. It says '403 Forbidden'.

    I found this page by searching, is it the same one ?
    https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/fluoride-the-poisoned-chalice-in-plain-sight


    Mod note from Bill:
    Yes, that's it. I fixed the link in the post above.

    THANKS

    I also found it (eventually) on Odysee here:

    https://odysee.com/@ukcolumn:9/Fluor...ithJoyWarren:e

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    WAW! . . . utterly startling all the way through and especially the final 3 points she made at the end.

    How about this one. She's found that hospital tooth extractions from children (dentists don't do that any more) are higher in fluoridated areas than in non fluoridated areas !

    Also, fluoridated water is NOT legally Drinking Water any more, it's medicinal water. She, personally, has had her water bill reduced to just paying for sewage disposal because she has found a way to opt out of paying for medicinal water.

    There are lots of things to learn in this video and I knew almost non of them before.
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    U.S. Surgeon General Quietly Backpedaled on Water Fluoridation 5 Years Ago, Emails Reveal
    4/1/24
    By Brenda Baletti, Ph.D.
    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...tm_id=20240401

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    "After decades of pushing water fluoridation as one of the greatest public health accomplishments in U.S. history, the U.S. surgeon general’s office stopped issuing public statements of support after a National Toxicology Program report linked fluoride to children’s lower IQs.
    For more than seven decades, U.S. public health officials steadfastly supported water fluoridation, claiming the practice is a key strategy for maintaining and improving dental health.

    Even today, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) calls water fluoridation one of the “ten great public health achievements of the 20th century.”

    However, internal email communications shared with The Defender suggest that as early as 2020, officials at the highest levels of the U.S. Public Health Service — the Office of the Surgeon General — were having second thoughts.

    “These emails show that despite public statements to the contrary, there is a lot of concern in the federal government about the potential link between fluoridated drinking water and lower IQs,” said Michael Connett.

    Connett, an attorney, represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit against the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). The suit seeks to end water fluoridation based on science linking low-level fluoride exposure to lower IQ scores in children.The emails were obtained via a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request and shared with The Defender by plaintiffs in the lawsuit.

    They reveal that in 2020, on the 75th anniversary of water fluoridation, U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams declined to make a statement endorsing water fluoridation, despite strong encouragement and behind-the-scenes organizing by his Chief Dental Officer Timothy Ricks.

    Adams’ office also stopped Ricks from co-signing, with eight previous chief dental officers, and releasing a letter supporting community water fluoridation and celebrating the anniversary.

    The U.S. surgeon general’s public support for water fluoridation has been considered key to boosting water fluoridation since the practice began.

    Until 2020, every surgeon general had made oral or written statements supporting water fluoridation, according to the communications among previous chief dental officers — appointees who advise the surgeon general and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services on the recruitment and development of oral health professionals.

    However, on this important anniversary, Adams’ staff told Ricks the surgeon general was reluctant to make a pro-fluoridation statement because he knew government scientists at the National Toxicology Program (NTP) were about to publish a systematic review of the literature on fluoride and neurotoxicity in children.

    The NTP report found that neonatal and childhood fluoride exposure had negative cognitive and neurodevelopmental effects for children.

    “One thing these emails demonstrate is what is undiscussed in the public sphere is that the science on fluoridation is very troubling, not just in high doses but at levels applicable to water fluoridation in the U.S.”

    “The fact that this concern is being expressed by an office that has historically been very supportive of fluoridation further highlights the serious implications of the NTP’s findings,” Connett said.

    Surgeon General Vivek Murthy, who also held the office under the Obama administration, publicly endorsed water fluoridation in 2016. That was after he officially lowered the recommended dosage for water fluoridation the year before from 0.7-1.2 milligrams per liter (mg/L) to 0.7 mg/L after considering “adverse health effects” along with alleged benefits.

    The original draft version of Murthy’s revised water fluoridation recommendations included a summary of some research on fluoride’s impact on IQ and other neurological issues with a statement saying further research was needed on the topic and that reducing the recommended levels for water fluoridation maintains benefits yet “reduces the chance of unwanted effects.”

    Those statements were not present in Murthy’s final draft.

    The Defender could not locate any public statement by Murthy in support of water fluoridation during his current term, which began in March 2021. Murthy’s office did not respond to an inquiry about his latest position on the issue.

    The Defender did not receive responses from the offices of Adams or Ricks.

    NTP report raised concerns about fluoridation while CDC continues to ‘blindly support’ it, emails show

    As the 75th anniversary of water fluoridation approached, Ricks — appointed chief dental officer by Adams — drafted a statement endorsing the water fluoridation for Surgeon General Adams to sign.

    However, Rick discovered Adams “didn’t want to sign such a statement because NTP was developing a monograph on fluoride that would undercut our long-standing support,” Ricks wrote in an email to a member of the surgeon general’s office.

    In a series of emails over the next several months to the surgeon general’s staff, Ricks rallied the support of previous surgeon generals and chief dental officers for a statement, and attempted to convince the office that the NTP report was flawed or that the findings on fluoride’s neurotoxicity ought not to raise concerns.

    The NTP is an interagency program housed at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) that investigates environmental toxins to determine if they threaten human health. Scientists there have been studying the neurological effects of fluoride on human health since 2016.

    The NTP’s study was launched 10 years after the National Research Council concluded its own multi-year study, which determined fluoride is an endocrine disruptor that can interfere with brain function and mandated further research into the issue.

    After years of research, NTP’s report went through multiple rounds of peer review — more than any other publications put out by the NTP, because of the controversial or “sensitive” nature of their findings on fluoride’s neurotoxicity.

    Documents obtained through public records requests also later revealed lobbying by the dental industry and coordination with government officials from other agencies within the NIH, including the National Institute of Dental and Craniofacial Research (NIDCR), to weaken the conclusions, delay the report or stop its publication went on behind the scenes for several years.

    Ricks coordinated with the American Dental Association (ADA) on how to continue to advocate for community water fluoridation in response to the report’s anticipated findings.

    In April 2022, when the NTP finally announced it was ready to publish its final report, the ADA and other organizations obtained copies of the report and lobbied federal officials to block its publication.

    Dental officials at the CDC, the NIH and the NIDCR pressured HHS Assistant Secretary for Health Rachel Levine to prevent the review from being published.

    Levine told the NTP to put the report on hold and send it for another round of peer review.

    In March 2023, the draft NTP report linking prenatal and childhood fluoride exposure to reduced IQ in children was finally published under court order. In the process, many officials publicly and privately objected to the review process, which they claimed was politicized by agencies and individuals with a vested interest in water fluoridation.

    The report is a key document in the ongoing lawsuit filed by Food & Water Watch, the Fluoride Action Network, Moms Against Fluoridation and private individuals against the EPA seeking to end water fluoridation.

    Arguments in that lawsuit began in June 2020, but it was put on hold pending the publication of the NTP report. The landmark fluoride trial resumed in January of this year and the judge is currently deliberating on his final decision.

    While the lawsuit and the political wrangling over the report were ongoing in 2020, Ricks reached out to his colleagues for help getting the surgeon general to maintain the office’s support for water fluoridation.

    In an email labeled, “Not for dissemination; keep confidential,” Ricks shared a “bombshell” with former chief dental officers. He told them the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS), the NTP and the NIDCR had informed the Office of the Surgeon General that the NIEHS/NTP report would “state that fluoride was definitely neurotoxic to children” and the surgeon general would be withdrawing the letter that Ricks had prepared.

    Ricks and others planned for the dental officers, without Ricks’ signature, to issue their own letter and share it at the meeting of the ADA. Ricks would privately facilitate wide circulation of the letter, he said.

    The impacts of the surgeon general’s decision raised concerns for Ricks. In another email, he worried the public would begin to think that the U.S. Public Health Service no longer backs water fluoridation.

    When Ricks received a draft of the NTP report in August 2020, he again reached out to the surgeon general’s office to seek a signature, downplaying the report’s conclusions.

    Ricks quoted the NTP report’s new summary statement, which said that at water fluoridation levels typically found in the U.S. “effects on cognitive neurodevelopment are inconsistent, and therefore unclear.”

    He highlighted the sentence and contended that uncertainty over whether fluoride damaged cognitive development made it “safe for the Surgeon General to issue a statement of support.”

    According to the excerpt highlighted by Ricks, “However, when considering all the evidence … NTP concludes that fluoride is presumed to be a cognitive neurodevelopmental hazard to humans.”

    Others at NIH voiced concerns that there would be public pushback, “since there is now preliminary early evidence about potential risks to fluoride.”

    Ricks also wrote that the surgeon general indicated he would sign such a document only if he had full backing from both NIH and CDC. He wondered whether then-acting director Lawrence A. Tabak, Ph.D., also a dentist, and Francis Collins, M.D., Ph.D., would support such a letter.

    By the end of August, Ricks had given up on the letter. In an email to Deputy Surgeon General Erica Schwartz, he said what he called the “anti-fluoride movement” was “more organized than ever before.”

    He added that the NIH was now “on the fence about fluoride” despite the fact that the CDC was “seemingly blindly supporting fluoridation.”

    In his last email to Schwartz, Ricks expressed his concern that a “very well put together” video would be aired at the next meeting of the International Society for Environmental Epidemiology.

    He also noted that the president of the largest dental public health organization in the U.S. “has contributed to anti-fluoride research.”

    Ricks was referring to research published by E. Angeles Martinez Mier, Ph.D., professor and associate dean for Global Engagement at the Indiana University School of Dentistry and former president of the American Association of Public Health Dentistry.

    Martinez Mier co-authored an NIH, NIEHS and EPA-funded study published in Environmental Health Perspectives on a group called the ELEMENT cohort in Mexico that found that higher prenatal fluoride exposure was associated with lower cognitive function in children tested at age 4 and ages 6-12.

    That 2017 article is just one of several recent studies that have identified the neurotoxic effects of fluoride exposure on children.

    The study Martinez Mier worked on was part of one of four major recent studies on fluoride neurotoxicity done examining birth cohorts, which are considered the “gold standard” of epidemiological studies. In cohort studies, researchers collect epidemiological data during pregnancy and then from children over their lifetimes to study a variety of health outcomes tied to environmental exposures.

    A significant body of scientific research has cast doubt on the dental health benefits of ingesting fluoride — and demonstrated negative health consequences of fluoride exposure, ranging from dental and skeletal fluorosis to developmental neurotoxicity.

    However, the media, public health officials and even other researchers have until recently systematically discredited anyone, including scientists, who raised concerns about fluoride, going so far as to label them “conspiracy theorists.” "
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