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Posted by workingactor
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are you out of your mind?! the entire world just watched israel bomb innocent civilians in gaza for the umpteenth time..the israeli govt does things that are almost cartoonishly evil, while making the american taxpayer foot most of the bill..they did 9/11 and a bunch of other false flags..and you come on here peddling this same-old "everyone hates the jews" BS..maybe if israel would learn to get along with its neighbors, and stop doing so much evil, maybe if jewish ppl worldwide(not all, but quite a few) would stop supporting this evil, then perhaps people wouldn't be so angry.
People on this forum are smarter than this, OP. go peddle this nonsense on prisonplanet.com or something.
Edit: and, as a lightworker myself(Reiki practitioner, alien contactee, and generally "sensitive") don't you DARE claim we're bringing hate and disinformation. true lightworkers get their information from NONLOCAL INTELLIGENCES. We cannot be fooled by this hasbara foolishness you're promoting. We got another false flag coming(info received in the dream state) and you wanna know who's going to be the culprit?
I'll give you one guess: your precious, innocent,put upon, oppressed, hated israel. Killing more innocent people who never did a DAMN thing to them.
#GTFOH
If this abbreviation means what I think it means, I don’t think it is a very acceptable response to another forum member. You are entitled to disagree with the OP but you have no business behaving as if you owned the placed. The OP did not express or encourage hate of any kind. It was about treading the fine line between criticism of a certain faction running countries including Israel and falling into the trap of racism and anti-Semitism. Other posters have shown how this is indeed a problem, and at least has the potential for becoming one on Avalon too. I personally disagreed with the OP (among other things) on the extent of that problem here, but not on the need for vigilance.
I respectfully submit that you fall into that trap yourself. You speak on behalf of one group – ‘true lightworkers’ – while the OP speaks of a different group – forum members. I personally cannot speak for all forum members, simply because some of them express views very different from my own, and some are likely working against me (us) – hence my concurring with the need for vigilance. I do not ask them to leave because a) I have no authority to do so, and b) I may be missing something. Likewise, I wouldn’t claim to speak for true lightworkers either, and advisedly so, because I cannot see myself ever beginning a sentence with ‘don't you DARE claim’. This is a small point to be sure, but such expressions are somewhat controlling and unsure of themselves, and don’t fit the picture I have of a truly enlightened lightworker.
Bit of a strawman here. the phrase #GTFOH, does mean what you think, but it's more "gimme a break" than "leave now". New Yorkers understand this. Also, I never claimed to speak for "true lightworkers". I gave my opinion on how a true lightworker receives their information. a small point, but, hey, if you want to sharpshoot me, I'll do likewise. Also, he slandered lightworkers generally with the claim of hate and disinformation, but never presented any evidence of said hate other than assertion. As far as how I wrote it.."dare claim"..well, I WOULD write that, and to me, it perfectly expresses my feeling. I am not you, etc.
The fact is that the issue is far from black and white – reread the pages of intervening posts – and I feel you are responding in black-and-white terms to the possibly black-and-white subtext of the OP. As you say, ‘People on this forum are smarter than this’. Even if we make it very clear that we are referring specifically to the cabal and not to any population at large, it is important to build a case against such people as one would against any other criminal, i.e. by establishing evidence that will hold up in court. This does not include accusing them of crimes supposedly yet to come that so far have no existence outside of your dreams. They couldn’t get Al Capone for any of his Mafia dealings, still less for anything he was only maybe thinking of doing – they nailed him on the lesser guilty charge of tax evasion. If you move away from due process, you will find yourself on a very slippery slope, leading to the ‘thought police’.
Well, you're right. the middle east is certainly not black and white, it's insanely complicated. But certain things ARE black and white, to wit: The mass killing of innocent men, women, and children. This last action by Israel(and all previous) are literally shooting fish in a barrel. Palestinians have no air force, or navy, or subs, or gunships, fighter jets, no nukes, no biological weapons. Israel has all of these. Hamas has some ak-47's some half-ass rockets, and Israel pretends that THEY are the ones terrorized..gimme a break 
As far as my dream goes..set it aside then. the list of crimes israel has committed thus far is MORE than enough to stir the ire of people across the planet, and rightfully so. that doesn't mean I hate all jews..neither should anyone else..but we have to admit there is a huge problem of support within the jewish community for war crimes that israel commits. It affects all of humanity, so its our collective problem, and it needs to be dealt with.
I would remind you that most dreams deal with personal issues. Any dreams of large-scale disaster these days are likely to take the form of a false flag perpetrated by the usual suspects. There is a great likelihood of such a thing indeed happening, for at any point in history we are likely to see more of the same until we see something different. But such an event is not proof of the validity of the dream
as premonition. These dreams – all of them collectively (how many people are having them, I wonder?) – may well be of the self-fulfilling type. This is circular in nature and is related to Barbara Hand Clow’s concept of ‘catastrophobia’. It works like this: I have nightmares of bad things that have happened in the past; I take them to be premonitory and project them into the future; they happen all over again. QED. We need to stop having these dreams for things to change.
Here is something in today’s news: reports of an arson attack perpetrated on a Jewish Rabbi for his anti-Israeli activism. In this article, the notion of antisemitism is dreadfully muddied: does it include things like the attack on the Rabbi or things like the attack by the Rabbi on Israeli policy? It would seem the latter only, since we read that
Recent months have seen hundreds of incidents of antisemitism as well as abuse of people supporting the Palestinian cause, according to campaigners.
If, precisely on the subject of an attack on a Jew, a Rabbi moreover, ‘abuse of people supporting the Palestinian cause’ is to be distinguished from ‘antisemitism’ in this way rather than conflating the two, then this is diametrically opposed to the dictionary meaning of the word ‘antisemitism’: ‘hostility towards or discrimination against Jewish people’.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...r-9749404.html
Due process in matters of language involves agreement on how we use words. Lawyers sometimes quote dictionaries to establish whether what is being debated is not in fact double-speak, as here. Again we get into circularity: the myth of the self-hating (antisemitic) Jew. Ultimately, on another level, everything can of course be internalized in this way. But on the level of everyday reality and duality where these things are playing out, what we see is a person (who also happens to be human, and specifically Jewish) who strongly disagrees and objects to something being done by another person or persons (who also happen to be human, and specifically Jewish). Hence the notion of Jewishness becomes irrelevant (their Jewishness ‘cancels out’). And more disturbingly, the notion of humanity appears to become irrelevant. It does not: what we mean by ‘humanity’ is indeed the subject of this struggle. The struggle is about rejecting certain behaviour as inhuman, i.e. unacceptable on the part of future humanity, simply because it leads to the race’s downfall. We are talking about behaviour (or call it a type of energy), not people. However, if certain individuals so identify with this behaviour that needs to be stamped out that they face some kind of extinction, then that is up to them. Inhumanity is quite simply incompatible with humanity.
Whether or not we consider ‘inhuman’ to equate with ‘alien’ or ‘reptilian’ is another extension of this battle. I would suggest that it does not; it is an anthropocentric term for something much bigger. Our ‘humanity’ is what connects us to other species, and we need to find an umbrella term for it, just as ‘archontic force’ appears to be a satisfactory synonym for inhumanity in this extended sense. That is the force that needs to be combatted wherever it appears. Which is why the whole gamut of racism and other –isms falls woefully short of that target, landing on people instead – and in so doing concealing the very existence of that archontic force.
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