Pleiadian soul

[sound consciousness]

I believe I am a Pleiadian soul, put onto the earth to do a job. Do you believe you are an extra terrestrial seed, and how would you recognize a fellow Pleiadian. Can you recognize a Pleiadians personal characteristics?. Secondly if you are from outer space E.T .,how does that make you different to Earthly people and what type of E.t. are you?

[thunder24]

so are you saying your soul is pleiadian and you have an earthly body, or that you are an actual physical, born off earth Pleiadian?

If humans are the result of genetic breeding with off-worlders, then who do you suppose is not of extra terrestrial seed?

[karelia]

Posted by sound consciousness (here)
I believe I am a Pleiadian soul, put onto the earth to do a job. Do you believe you are an extra terrestrial seed, and how would you recognize a fellow Pleiadian. Can you recognize a Pleiadians personal characteristics?. Secondly if you are from outer space E.T .,how does that make you different to Earthly people and what type of E.t. are you?

I find your questions far too personal to answer in a publicly visible thread.

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by sound consciousness (here)
I believe I am a Pleiadian soul, put onto the earth to do a job. Do you believe you are an extra terrestrial seed, and how would you recognize a fellow Pleiadian. Can you recognize a Pleiadians personal characteristics?. Secondly if you are from outer space E.T .,how does that make you different to Earthly people and what type of E.t. are you?

Which one of the 450+ stars there do you come from? Which race?

[DNA]

I think the question is loaded. Let me ask a question so as I can infer if we are talking about the same thing.
If the question "I think I am a Plieadian star seed" where to mean that your incarnation was some how different then how so?
If the question contains a statement such as "I think I am a Plieadian star seed and somehow that makes me better than you" I think we should addresse that.

Plieadian's, according to Billy Meier are a race of warring people who have been involved with Inter-Galactic wars for tens of thousands of years. This seems to occur with cycles just as our own race is subjected to cycles within earth's 27,000 kaliyuga cycle. Plieadians are incarnating just as we are, and they are subject to the same kinds of cycles probably influenced by whatever planets they are inhabiting.

Piloting a flying saucer doesn't make you any more spiritually advanced than piloting an airplane.

I just thought I would throw that out there.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by DNA (here)

Piloting a flying saucer doesn't make you any more spiritually advanced than piloting an airplane.

Made me laugh! Someone should print that on a T-shirt.

[Omni]

I think many people's souls came from other worlds before earth. All kinds of spiritually advanced and non people. However pinpointing which race you came from seems rather hard. How would you say you have discovered you are Pleiadian SC? I do believe I came here from another culture as well. Just that the details are shrouded in mystery and most of what I thought was very possible, I now see as likely manipulation around the subject(IE which race i came from). I'm kind of 'agnostic' about what race I came from now...

So SC would you share with us how you came to the conclusion you are a Pleiadian soul?

[Sidney]

Posted by DNA (here)
I think the question is loaded. Let me ask a question so as I can infer if we are talking about the same thing.
If the question "I think I am a Plieadian star seed" where to mean that your incarnation was some how different then how so?
If the question contains a statement such as "I think I am a Plieadian star seed and somehow that makes me better than you" I think we should addresse that.

Plieadian's, according to Billy Meier are a race of warring people who have been involved with Inter-Galactic wars for tens of thousands of years. This seems to occur with cycles just as our own race is subjected to cycles within earth's 27,000 kaliyuga cycle. Plieadians are incarnating just as we are, and they are subject to the same kinds of cycles probably influenced by whatever planets they are inhabiting.

Piloting a flying saucer doesn't make you any more spiritually advanced than piloting an airplane.

I just thought I would throw that out there.

Isn't that what is also said about earthlings? Warring? People on most planets IMHO come in all flavors
Anyway, here is a starseed questionaire that may help anyone that is wondering about this.
http://blake4d.hubpages.com/hub/Trai...ds-are-you-One

[Agape]

Posted by sound consciousness (here)
I believe I am a Pleiadian soul, put onto the earth to do a job. Do you believe you are an extra terrestrial seed, and how would you recognize a fellow Pleiadian. Can you recognize a Pleiadians personal characteristics?. Secondly if you are from outer space E.T .,how does that make you different to Earthly people and what type of E.t. are you?

Knowing thyself is extremely important point here . Beliefs are one thing , real knowledge another . On Earth , not many people know themselves very well,
very few go far enough to clear their sense of identity and awareness beyond what they've been told or taught about who they are ..

That's how many people here even will be biased and bound to laugh at such questions . They've been taught certain things about who they are, shown how 'they work' and many also I believe, meditated on those principles getting themselves closer to some sort of personal revelation ..that would resonate with what they been taught on , who they are ..

If I say 'meditated' it may simply mean 'worked' , externally or internally, thus placing themselves in better resonance with human continuum .

As an ET individual living in this human continuum, you certainly experience distinct sense of identity , beside any other such a sense that you've learned and acquired in human world , identity that no human understands really well ..unless they'd be very open minded , intelligent and curious humans .

I dare to say .. as a stranger to the human collective - your sense for reality is hard to deceive , even if your human psychological profile would not always match such criteria and your human 'facet' is one of a dreamer and intuitive who struggles with human emotions, your reality sense never leaves you alone .
For which fact you're usually able to distance yourself from human emotions , especially those extreme human emotions and also , on other levels .. human convictions and beliefs .

You have to have knowledge of things that were not shared from/with human people, it may be language/s or alphabets known only to you , memories of places/planets, technologies not known on this planet , you may know of different versions of sciences than those known here and that all to great detail .

There are also subtle physiological differences between you and the rest of the human collective, most of them are probably known to yourself alone because we all had to learn how to protect our functioning from being destroyed by human beliefs and habits .

You will most certainly know when you encounter others 'like you' , according to levels of your shared awareness .


I agree with Karelia that this topic is very personal to those involved .. only if for the fact that it's being misread by skeptics, ridiculed by many but also , can be potentially misguiding to some who are keen to jump in believing something .. instead of searching further on their path to knowledge .


Good questions but see how it goes ..

[sound consciousness]

quote:DNA
Piloting a flying saucer doesn't make you any more spiritually advanced than piloting an airplane.

I just thought I would throw that out there.[/QUOTE]

it may not make you spiritually advanced , but it shows they have a higher level of consciousness, a higher level of intellect.

quote: Karelia:

I find your questions far too personal to answer in a publicly visible thread. Why is it too personal to answer in a publicly visible thread?..all these forums are being vetted all the time.

We were seeded twice by E.t.'s to make human e.t hybrids and raise the level of consciousness, however many people have fallen into darkness of unreality falsehood, hate and disordered reason, subconscious or the imagination into insanity mode , therefore people who have disordered reason can be manipulated. Fear and the imagination create a pseudo reality . Therefore what is going on?. People through FEAR and the imagination(subconscious) are creating their own reality .Many are into a downward spiral in to the bottomless pit. They have to appease their EGO by trying to make other people believe that they are speaking the truth and it is a reality, sending more people towards insanity. These groups then stick together to feed their ego and if anyone goes against the trend is deemed as odd.Many people have seen E.T'S through fear and the imagination and deem it to be a reality.Are you being manipulated? When Earth finally reaches a point , through the precession of the equinoxes and higher levels of sound consciousness is sent to Earth , the insane ones will die and go on the wheel of death and reincarnation.
Bill it may have made you laugh you said once you had seen an e,t on the mountain side , are you sure it wasn't FEAR and the Imagination?.

[Omni]

Posted by sound consciousness (here)
Bill it may have made you laugh you said once you had seen an e,t on the mountain side , are you sure it wasn't FEAR and the Imagination?.

I don't think Bill's (or most people's) experiences were fear and imagination. Although I'm sure he can speak for himself there... I don't mean to speak for anyone other than myself here. I have had many experiences with ETs and terrestrial powers, it certainly wasn't fear and imagination. Have you ever asked yourself the question:

Are you being manipulated?

From what I have observed Pleiadian starseed is synonymous to mind control target and full of illusions. Regardless of if they are spiritually intelligent. They almost all seem to feel they have the entire universe figured out, yet never have much humility when dealing with other people's experiences(IE: how you treated Amethyst)... Just my observations from most people who have said that, of course from my own limited perspective(s)...

[DNA]

Posted by sound consciousness (here)
it may not make you spiritually advanced , but it shows they have a higher level of consciousness, a higher level of intellect.

That's like saying the Spaniards who came to America, raping, pillaging and murdering were more advanced than the Native peoples they were committing genocide on.

Or that we as Americans with our I-phones, automobiles and supersonic jets are more spritually advanced than say the Native Australian people.

I'm sure there is a Ayuahusca imbibing South American Rainforest living native who has never handled an electronically powered device of any kind in his life that could teach a Plieadian a thing or two.

[karelia]

Posted by sound consciousness (here)
Why is it too personal to answer in a publicly visible thread?..all these forums are being vetted all the time.

I'm perfectly aware that all these forums are being vetted all the time. I'm also perfectly aware that all the alphabet soups have to do to get info on a particular soul inhabiting a human body is to access records available to them. But that's not the point. I find your questions intrusive, especially in the light of you claiming to be a Pleiadian soul, a race that is far too romanticized on this planet as far as I'm concerned.

[Agape]

Posted by DNA (here)
Or that we as Americans with our I-phones, automobiles and supersonic jets are more spritually advanced than say the Native Australian people.

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Now what about Native American ( or Australian ) with an iPhone . How does it add up , why and why not ?
It's an old stylish 'spiritual joke' about whether Buddha would use walkman if he lived in our times or whether Milarepa , considered almost omniscient would automatically understand computers .
Sure , 'true spiritualists' have sort of evasive 'always have an answer' to such questions .

In reality ? Who is the 'true enlightened soul' of our times ? Shaman self-medicating on Ayahuasca , in trance , in the jungle ? Yogi who shuns himself from this fast speeding civilisation to prove himself he can survive without it ?
True model who believes his way is one of the best ways , being a mum of 4 and knowing the answer to everything ?
A Neo who knows the difference between reality and the Matrix ?

What if the answer is none and all ? Anyone claiming spiritual enlightenment have to work hard to transcend the understanding of their times,
not merely copy the intelligence level of his ancestors since that's not sufficient .

Thus .. predicting what kind of intelligence, higher than human can we encounter .. is like talking of things you can not understand unless you met them and even then ,
would you claim to understand those things or would you sit on your back and wonder ..

[johnf]

The whole starseed area is something that requires strong grounding in everyday reality to deal with.
Personally I have spent a long time persuing these ideas, and have not gotten much out of them
other than acknowledging that I am not just from this planet and culture.

Except of course when I learned to get my feet more firmly on the ground, and deal with being, an earth human.

This planet is a mix of cultures that basically have developed here, but were "seeded" in one form or another from other places.

Usually those efforts had some control agenda attached.Our history, especially from a religious aspect is a violent mess of cultural wars.

I grew up in the outskirts of Los Angeles in the middle of patches of cultures from all over the world. At a time when the world was going through a cultural revolution that still has not settled down.

Not that that was so unique, this has been happening in urban/suburban areas for a long time.
To that situation add the idea that each of us came from some other specific place with it own culture different from anything here, and you have a lot of ammunition for either alienation, or
acceptance.

Some of the things I have run into along the way that had this starseed idea attached to it
have been blatant mind control, with layers of hatred built in.

In those cases I had someone who was trained specifically to guide me through those things
to help me, also it was done one on one in private.

Carrying on these discussions in a public form can be very tricky, and unfruitfull, unless people insist on sharing their own experience only.
What they went through, what happened to change it and hopefully results.

It is very hard sometimes to not tell someone else what we think is going on with them, as if it is fact, but it is rarely helpful.

The real truth about who I am has no planet of origin, no plane of existence, and no story to it.
I am who I am, I am me, and I am just another me, not special or on a higher plane of evolution, however the real me can be whatever it consistently works for in whatever environment it finds itself.

To look around the planet presently it is hard to accept myself as belonging here amidst all the hatred, bloodshed etc, but it is the journey I am on. There are real reasons for it ,and I have many things to learn. Whenever I have felt that I have really learned something it has been about feeling whatever emotions that came up for me , and doing what seemed to be the best action at the time. Sometimes going back, and fixing something I did badly at.
The most common barrier I have found is some idea of how I am special.
And this can be any form of greater than /lesser than idea, really good, really bad, etc, exaggerated ideas about myself.
In short Identities, that at one time or another were useful tools to get through a situation that were not let go of when they served a their purpose.

The positive side of the starseed thing for me has been that there are ways for planetary cultures to survive this phase of growth where the things we do to survive are poisining us into
a stupor. It seems to be what planetary cultures do at the cusp between childhood and adolescence.
The ability to fully feel our fears and act in a way that helps the greatest number seems to be the best tool to move ahead.

John

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by sound consciousness (here)

Bill it may have made you laugh you said once you had seen an e,t on the mountain side , are you sure it wasn't FEAR and the Imagination?.

It appeared physically in my room. If I'd had a camera, I could have taken its photo. No imagination. I was shocked when I saw it, but I was very relaxed BEFORE I saw it.

A direct question to you: why do you seek to invalidate others' direct, personal experiences by suggesting that this is delusion, triggered by fear?

You also did that to Amethyst, here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post878247

Posted by sound consciousness (here)
SORRY Amethyst, this sounds like Fear and the Imagination causing these strange happenings

This sounds like arrogance (on your part) to me. You asked me by PM why I was interested in your posts, after I had asked you what your academic background was (to which you did not reply).

I'm interested because I think you are throwing your weight around on the forum in a rather immature, grandstanding, and unhelpful way.

[Agape]

There had been many others coming out with such inquiries here and the forum was so far, able to accommodate their presence and discussions .
I don't see a valid reason why the rule would change out of sudden . Karelia himself is spiritual person who among else, interviewed Simon Parkes about his ET contacts and origins . Being a 'well known contactee' or personal friend does not /should not automatically result in discrimination on who are the people allowed to debate these topics . Those who are so concerned about their contribution here ..
probably miss the fact that any 'intelligent ET' will think twice before joining the debate and if he does already, it's their own risk entirely .

[johnf]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by sound consciousness (here)

Bill it may have made you laugh you said once you had seen an e,t on the mountain side , are you sure it wasn't FEAR and the Imagination?.

It appeared physically in my room. If I'd had a camera, I could have taken its photo. No imagination. I was shocked when I saw it, but I was very relaxed BEFORE I saw it.

A direct question to you: why do you seek to invalidate others' direct, personal experiences by suggesting that this is delusion, triggered by fear?

You also did that to Amethyst, here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post878247

Posted by sound consciousness (here)
SORRY Amethyst, this sounds like Fear and the Imagination causing these strange happenings

This sounds like arrogance (on your part) to me. You asked me by PM why I was interested in your posts, after I had asked you what your academic background was (to which you did not reply).

I'm interested because I think you are throwing your weight around on the forum in a rather immature, grandstanding, and unhelpful way.

I have found a that a repeated phrase like this, used in arguments can be a kind of loose thread
That can be gently pulled on to find an area that is in need of healing.
I would be interested myself in where you picked this phrase up Sound Consciousness.
Of course you can refrain from answering publicly ,and deal with it on a more personal level, but I would really encourage you to investigate this.

Fear is an emotion that comes up all the time in healthy people, and if shied away from can lead to supression of self and others.

Imagination , is an ability that that is very close to our core being, and is often the source of courage ,and deeds that save lives, cure diseases etc.

Airing out ones thoughts on these ideas can be very important.

John

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Piloting a flying saucer doesn't make you any more spiritually advanced than piloting an airplane.

I just thought I would throw that out there

it may not make you spiritually advanced , but it shows they have a higher level of consciousness, a higher level of intellect.

No it doesn't, all it means they have smart engineers, just like we do, I could not come up with the idea of and airplane or even a bicycle by myself in a million years ( that expression again, I stole it from Rogan) but I could sure learn how to ride one or fly one, all a civilization needs are a few brainiacs to pull the cart and write the manuals ( we may have had a couple of smart dudes/ladies around but very few Tesla's), the rest just falls in line, so it doesn't necessarily mean anything at all besides apparently having a reasonable amount of memory retention to retain what the smarties amongst us have come up with

"If I left you alone in the woods with a hatchet, how long for you send me an email?)

Joe Rogan"

http://youtu.be/xqSMbsKDJss

[Natalia]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by sound consciousness (here)

Bill it may have made you laugh you said once you had seen an e,t on the mountain side , are you sure it wasn't FEAR and the Imagination?.

It appeared physically in my room. If I'd had a camera, I could have taken its photo. No imagination. I was shocked when I saw it, but I was very relaxed BEFORE I saw it.

A direct question to you: why do you seek to invalidate others' direct, personal experiences by suggesting that this is delusion, triggered by fear?

You also did that to Amethyst, here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post878247

Posted by sound consciousness (here)
SORRY Amethyst, this sounds like Fear and the Imagination causing these strange happenings

This sounds like arrogance (on your part) to me. You asked me by PM why I was interested in your posts, after I had asked you what your academic background was (to which you did not reply).

I'm interested because I think you are throwing your weight around on the forum in a rather immature, grandstanding, and unhelpful way.

Thank you, Bill.

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