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    Default Beware of the toothpaste you use!!!!!

    I found this article interesting for those that are interested in your health. Not only do you need to be aware of fluoride in toothpaste but it appears that at least Crest toothpaste has been adding plastic micro beads to this witches brew. What honest reason could you have for putting friggin plastic in toothpaste?







    What a Dental Hygienist Found in Her Patient’s Mouths Forced a Company to Take Action


    A dental hygienist from Arizona made quite a strange discovery in the mouths of her patients and spoke up about it. Now, a company is taking action.
    Trish Walraven, from Phoenix, started noticing something peculiar a few years ago and started asking some of her colleagues if they noticed it to.
    “We thought it was a cleaning product or something that people were chewing,” said Walraven.
    Her discovery? Little blue dots that were trapped in the spaces between people’s teeth and gums, and it turns out it was happening to quite a few people.
    “Some weeks I’ll see five or six patients,” Walraven told KNXV.
    After discussing what they were seeing with other hygienists for some time and trying to figure out what it was they were seeing, Walraven said they got it; it was polyethylene. The same plastic used for more purposes than we can count and is found in everything from trash bags to bulletproof vests.
    Now, these plastic microbeads are found in toothpaste, and according dentist Justin Phillip, they shouldn’t be anywhere near your mouth.
    “They’ll trap bacteria in the gums which leads to gingivitis, and over time that infection moves from the gum into the bone that holds your teeth, and that becomes periodontal disease. Periodontal disease is scary.”
    From what she found, Walraven said that one company seems to use the microbeads more than any others.

    “Pretty much everyone was saying that they were using some form of Crest toothpaste,” Walraven explained.
    She wants companies to remove the microbeads from their products, and she has started a blog which has gotten attention across the country. One toothpaste manufacturer has actually taken notice and will be making changes in the future.
    Proctor and Gamble, who manufactures Crest, said in a statement to ABC15, “While the ingredient in question is completely safe, we understand there is a growing preference for us to remove the ingredient. So we will.”
    The company said it will have the majority of its products microbead-free in six months,

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    Default Re: Beware of the toothpaste you use!!!!!

    Quote "...Crest toothpaste has been adding plastic micro beads to this witches brew."
    Big chuckle when I read this part, Peterpam.

    I use to go for check-ups twice a year. Now I only need to go once and the visit doesn’t take that long. I canceled my dental insurance. I use this product: ”Oralive Toothpaste" from AscendedHealth.com. It lasts about 8-10 months. It keeps my teeth white and there’s no plaque build up. I use it once a day and Tom’s flouride-free toothpaste for the other times.

    Ingredients: 
Volcanic Earth Minerals, Vitamin C, Camu Camu, Amla, Calcium, Xylitol, Nettle, Folic Acid, CoQ 10, Marine Phytoplankton, Astaxanthin, Blue Green Algae, Pau D’Arco, Aloe Vera, Noni, Peppermint, Melissa, Arnica, Licorice, Mint, Turmeric, Holy Basil, Ginger. Essential Oils of Neroli, Jasmine, Spikenard, Rose.
    Oralive Dental Regenerative Elixir

    Description: All natural oral balancing paste made of live edible clays, calcium, superfoods, oxygen, essential oils, deep ocean trace minerals, ancient probiotic bacteria. Helps reset oral bioterrain with friendly microbes. Does not contain flouride or soap. Vegan.

    Designed to help support your body to
    • inhibit bacteria that cause cavities, plaque and gingivitis
    • alleviate gum pain & gum bleeding
    • whiten teeth
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    Default Re: Beware of the toothpaste you use!!!!!

    Runningdeer,

    Thanks for the suggestion on the Oralive Toothpaste. I have used the fluoride free toothpaste for years but the one you are describing seems to be a cut above what I have used.

    As far as this Crest toothpaste adding plastic beads to its toothpaste, it just goe to show that we cannot expect any protection whatsoever from the FDA or the corporations that make this crap. I would love to have been a fly on the wall when this decision to put plastic in toothpaste was made. What rational could there be for this?

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    Default Re: Beware of the toothpaste you use!!!!!

    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    I use it once a day and Tom’s flouride-free toothpaste for the other times.
    The Oralive looks quite interesting.

    The Tom's has glycerin, which as best as know (1) gives a nice "smooth and clean" tongue feel to your teeth, but (2) coats them, suppressing natural re-mineralization of minor scratches. Also all but one or two of Tom's toothpaste varieties has SLS.
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    Default Re: Beware of the toothpaste you use!!!!!

    Can someone please make a list of toothpastes without fluoride and glycerin?
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    Default Re: Beware of the toothpaste you use!!!!!

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    I use it once a day and Tom’s flouride-free toothpaste for the other times.
    The Oralive looks quite interesting.

    The Tom's has glycerin, which as best as know (1) gives a nice "smooth and clean" tongue feel to your teeth, but (2) coats them, suppressing natural re-mineralization of minor scratches. Also all but one or two of Tom's toothpaste varieties has SLS.

    I was not aware of SLS. Thanks, Paul. I’ve tossed out my last 2 1/2 “if/when the grid goes down” Tom's tubes. Grrrr. I’m 2 ahead with Oralive.

    Tom's of Maine

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    Quote Posted by Pris (here)
    Can someone please make a list of toothpastes without fluoride and glycerin?
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    I use it once a day and Tom’s flouride-free toothpaste for the other times.
    The Oralive looks quite interesting.

    The Tom's has glycerin, which as best as know (1) gives a nice "smooth and clean" tongue feel to your teeth, but (2) coats them, suppressing natural re-mineralization of minor scratches. Also all but one or two of Tom's toothpaste varieties has SLS.

    I was not aware of SLS. Thanks, Paul. I’ve tossed out my last 2 1/2 “if/when the grid goes down” Tom's tubes. Grrrr. I’m 2 ahead with Oralive.

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    Uggh. What is SLS, I'm afraid to ask?
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    Quote Posted by Pris (here)
    Uggh. What is SLS, I'm afraid to ask?
    Hi Pris,

    Here's one of several stops I made:

    Top 10 Reasons to Avoid Sodium Lauryl Sulfate

    There are a lot of rumors out there about Sodium Lauryl/Laureth Sulfate. Is it really a carcinogen? What about an endocrine disruptor and skin irritant? What’s truth and what’s myth? We’ve put together this article to clear up the confusion about the debated chemical. There’s no need to spread lies…the truth is scary enough. To make it easy we’re going to refer to Sodium Lauryl Sulfate and its even more evil twin, Sodium Laureth Sulfate from this point forward as SLS.

    If you have the suspicion that washing your face is making your skin dry, or that shampooing is giving you an itchy scalp or making your eyes sting, or that cleaning your teeth is giving you mouth ulcers, sodium lauryl sulfate is the likely culprit. In studies, there are “significant correlations” (in the words of one) between SLS and contact dermatitis. The Journal of the American College of Toxicology says that it has “a degenerative effect on the cell membranes because of its protein denaturing properties”. The Journal adds that “high levels of skin penetration may occur at even low use concentration.

    Here are our top ten reasons you should not use anything containing SLS.

    1. It is a known skin irritant. When cosmetic companies need to test the healing properties of a lotion, they need toirritate the skin first. What do they use to do this? SLS, of course. If you have dandruff, dermatitis, canker sores, or other irritated tissues or skin, it could be due to SLS.

    2. It pollutes our groundwater.  It is toxic to fish and other aquatic animals and has the potential for bioaccumulation (meaning it accumulates in the bodies of the fish.)  It also is undetected in many municipal water filters, getting into the tap water that you drink.

    3. It is actually a pesticide and herbicide.  It is commonly used to kill plants and insects. Makers of SLS recently petitioned to have SLS listed as an approved pesticide for organic farming.  The application was denied because of its polluting properties and environmental damage.

    4. It emits toxic fumes when heated. Toxic Sodium Oxides and Sulfur Oxides are released when SLS is heated.  Makes a hot shower with an SLS shampoo seem not quite as nice…

    5.  It has corrosive properties.  According to the American College of Toxicity,  this includes corrosion of the fats and protiens that make up skin and muscle.  SLS can be found in garage floor cleanrs, engine degreasers, and car wash soaps.



    6.  Long-term permeation of the body’s tissues.  A study from the University of Georgia Medicine showed that SLS had the power to permeate the eyes, brain, heart, and liver.

    7.  It’s an eye irritant.  It was shown to cause cataracts in adults, and is proven to inhibit the proper formation of eyes in small children.

    8.  Nitrate and other solvent contamination.  Toxic solvents, including carcinogenic nitrates are used in the manufacturing of SLS, traces of which can remain in the product.

    9.  Manufacturing process is highly polluting, emitting cancer-causing volatile organic compounds, sulfur compounds, and air particulates.



    10.  It helps other chemicals get into your body. SLS is a penetration enhancer, meaning that its molecules are so small they’re able to cross the membranes of your body’s cells.  Once cells are compromised, they become more vulnerable to other toxic chemicals that may be with the SLS.

    Does it cause cancer?

    
SLS is not a recognized carcinogen itself, but there is some truth behind those internet rumors.  When SLS is mixed with triethanolamine (or T.E.A) carcinogenic substances called nitrosames can form and be released.

    Products commonly found to contains Sodium Lauryl Sulfate found here.

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    Default Re: Beware of the toothpaste you use!!!!!

    I've been using redmonds earthpaste for the past year, but will be adding oralive to my list. Thank you running deer.

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    Default Re: Beware of the toothpaste you use!!!!!

    Homemade Remineralizing Toothpaste Ingredients:

    - 5 parts Calcium powder
    - 1 part Diatomaceous Earth (optional- contains trace minerals and silica. UPDATE: A reader noted that DE can be abrasive and is not needed with the baking soda, so if you don’t have DE… no worries!)
    - 2 parts Baking Soda
    - 3 parts Xylitol Powder- This ingredient is not completely necessary, but just keeps it from tasting bitter.
    - 3-5 parts coconut oil to get desired texture
    - Optional ingredients: Essential oils for flavor (mint, cinnamon, and orange are all good), Grapefruit Seed Extract, Myrrh and Trace Minerals


    Simplified version I use:

    - 5 parts Calcium powder
    - 2 parts Baking Soda
    - 3-5 parts coconut oil to get desired texture

    source: http://wellnessmama.com/2500/remineralizing-toothpaste/

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    Oil Pulling For Health

    It's suggested to use a T spoon, I about use 2t of extra virgin olive oil and spit it into a paper napkin. I used this technique more when I first learned about it. After rereading this, I'll reestablish the every other day pattern.

    Each time, I'm surprised how white my teeth get even after one application, and even though my teeth are white from from the Oralive (and naturally so).

    In Oil Pulling the technique is very simplistic yet it is said to have amazing results. These results bring a more healthy balance of good flora and bacteria within your body. It will remove unhealthy bacteria from your mouth, teeth and gums thus promoting less intrusion of these germs into your body via the bloodstream and less into your organs.

    As Ukrainian physician, Dr F. Karach said at a conference of the all Ukranische-Union of the Oncologists and Bacteriologists, “treatment will achieve remarkable results with illnesses like migraine headaches, bronchitis, diseased teeth, arterio thrombosis, chronic blood disorders such as leukemia, arthritis and related illnesses, neuro physiological paralysis, eczema, gastro enteritis, peritonitis, heart disease, kidney disease, meningitis, and women’s hormonal disorders are completely eliminated from the organism.” Dr. Karach’s further stated that the oil therapy heals the whole body in perpetuity. (lasts forever, indefinite)

    So how do you do this “Oil Pulling” thing? First you should choose what oil you will use. Many researchers and users have stated that one of two oils work best. The two recommended oils being sesame oil or sunflower oil. I have personally used both and also have used coconut oil and olive oil. It is recommended to have cold pressed if available.

    Obviously if you have any allergies or food reactions to any oil do not use that particular oil but use another one you are not reactive to.

    First thing in am before breakfast or intake of any liquids, pour one tablespoon of whatever oil you choose to use into your mouth. Remember this, that whatever oil you use, it is only food you are putting into your mouth. Oil is, after all, food.

    Next, swish this around in your mouth and pull and push it around your gums and between your teeth. You should “Oil Pull” about 15-20 minutes. DO NOT SWALLOW any of the oil. You will be swishing and moving it around but also DO NOT gargle with it. The oil will become toxic as you continue the procedure so that is why you should not gargle with it or swallow it.

    Let me tell you some of my initial road blocks and problems from my own experiences with Oil Pulling. I found the whole tablespoon of oil to be quite a bit of oil when I was not used to having it in my mouth for a prolonged period like this. Also, as I swished it and pushed and pulled it around my mouth, it became frothy and watery as it mixed with my saliva. That is a good thing and the proper way it should go. The problem being was that the texture of the mix was hard to get used to and “stomach” at first.

    Let me say this, if you feel like you need to spit it out before the whole amount of time, do so. You can just start over again and try to get the proper amount of time out of the two attempts. The thing here is that you are comfortable with the procedure. I found that my mouth and jaws also would get tired and ache. This probably meant that I was doing the “Oil Pulling” too hard and/or fast. I would take a break for a second then start back at an easier more relaxed state. If you can find that easy and natural rhythm then that is the best and most proper way to proceed. This, like anything new, will eventually get easier and more natural to do for you. Just keep at it and you will start to notice results. Good results. One of the most notable results is the whitening of your teeth after Oil Pulling.

    Once you have done about 15-20 minutes of the Pulling, you will spit out the watery, frothy mixture. This spit is highly toxic at that point so if you spit it into a sink, you need to clean the sink with an antibacterial soap/cleaner. It is best and easier to spit it into the toilet.

    Once you spit out the oil mixture you can rinse with salt water or some recommend brushing your teeth with your fingers and soap. I know you are saying soap??? But, you just finger brush your teeth and rinse out your mouth thoroughly.

    You can perform this procedure a few times a day if you like but always do so before eating. You can also space out the days you perform this if you like. The whole schedule thing is up to you. Do weekdays and lay off weekends or do it every day. It is your decision. Two days of OP and a day off….whatever you like.

    Now that you have read this article, if you are not already doing so, please give it a try for a week and see the results for yourself. Some even claim to have more energy, lose weight and sleep better after starting this ritual.

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    I've been using redmonds earthpaste for the past year
    Me too ... I like it.
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    Default Re: Beware of the toothpaste you use!!!!!

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    I use it once a day and Tom’s flouride-free toothpaste for the other times.
    The Oralive looks quite interesting.

    The Tom's has glycerin, which as best as know (1) gives a nice "smooth and clean" tongue feel to your teeth, but (2) coats them, suppressing natural re-mineralization of minor scratches. Also all but one or two of Tom's toothpaste varieties has SLS.


    Paul, I was not aware of what glycerin can do regarding the suppression of re-mineralization. It goes to show that if you keep your ears open you really can learn something new every day! I became a little leery of Tom's when I accidentally bought some of their toothpaste with fluoride. So once again, buyer beware.

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    Quote Posted by betoobig (here)
    B i c a r b o n a t o d e s o d i o


    My mom never brushed her teeth with anything but baking soda and salt for many years and never had a cavity. Then at some point she changed to some popular brand of toothpaste and ended loosing a lot of teeth.

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    Thanks for the info on SLS ,RunningDeer. From what I gather the reason it is in all sorts of things is that it creates a lather and nice little bubbles to make us feel we are getting clean but actually we are doing all sorts of damage...to ourselves and the ground water. To think that it is a herbicide and pesticide. Another thing to be aware of........

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    All these fab natural dental care products seem to be coming from the US.
    Does anyone have recommendations for good natural products that are available in the UK?

    On someone's advice - was it you Paul? - I've been ordering Ipsab tooth powder and gum treatment to counteract a tendency to gum disease.
    It works fine but the thought of having it shipped around the globe doesn't sit that well with me. Also, there are considerable shipment charges. Ordering larger quantities would get one over the customs' limit which then makes the whole thing completely ridiculous.

    Concerning cavities, or the lack thereof, about 15 years ago I started using a saturated brine of Himalayan pink salt to dunk my toothbrush in and I haven't had anything since, nothing.

    Today I still use the Himalayan pink salt brine with some bicarb of soda mixed in, additionally the Ipsab and I'm fine, apart from the fact that the latter comes from the other side of the globe.

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    Switched to charcoal from baking soda upon reading this http://phoenixtools.org/alternative-teeth-care/ After all it is one of the most natural things in the world and we had a ton. Along with oil pulling my teeth become very white and lost all the sensitivity they once had. noticed too that after brushing with charcoal, then brushing with coconut oil had a much nicer feel, wonder how flavored oils would do..

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    Default Re: Beware of the toothpaste you use!!!!!

    Quote Posted by nenosema (here)
    Switched to charcoal from baking soda upon reading this http://phoenixtools.org/alternative-teeth-care/ After all it is one of the most natural things in the world and we had a ton. Along with oil pulling my teeth become very white and lost all the sensitivity they once had. noticed too that after brushing with charcoal, then brushing with coconut oil had a much nicer feel, wonder how flavored oils would do..
    Good tips in that article, nenosema.

    #4 reminded me of what an 11 year old taught me back in early 1980's. Along with brushing your tongue, brush the roof of your mouth. (gums, I added) When I asked him if someone taught him that his answer was, "No. It only makes sense that you would." Sending a hello out there to JS.

    4. Baking soda / Hydrogen Peroxide
    Using your toothbrush of choice, put a few drops of hydrogen peroxide on the toothbrush then dip it into the baking soda. Then brush your teeth with that mixture. Also remember to brush your tongue at the last and rinse well. This is my mainstay for teeth health and it also helps whiten the teeth.

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    Default Re: Beware of the toothpaste you use!!!!!

    I have a market stall at craft markets in my local area on the weekends and sell this stuff:

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    Its locally made,I get it from a couple who have it made for there little natural soap and body products range.No fluoride,no sls,no artificial sweetners,etc

    Its also got some lemon myrtle in it which is a native Australian plant that the aboriginals revere.

    There were some lab trials done a few years back and the essential oil that comes from the lemon myrtle plant has higher anti-fungal,anti-viral and anti-bacterial properties than tea-tree oil which is high in all of those.

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