Public Panic over spread of Ebola

[Roisin]

Gov't officials and the media have continuously misinformed the public about the Ebola virus so as not to create public panic. Below are a few of those lies but there are many others too:
-- They've not put enough emphasis on the fact that the official death count, that is currently just over 4,000, is not representative on the real death count of unreported cases which, in reality, would double if not triple the official death count number.
-- They've lied about it not being airborne, when it is.
-- They've lied about it not being contagious when an infected person is not yet symptomatic when the fact is they really don't know that for sure mainly due to cases that have indicated otherwise.
-- They've ignored the fact that there is a possibility that dogs and cats when infected could spread the disease too.
-- That our medical systems and networks are actually prepared for the Ebola pandemic when in fact, they clearly are NOT.
-- That the virus is currently not mutating when there is every indication that it has been mutating and will continue to do that as the numbers of the infected continue to increase exponentially.

So my question is, if they've been lying all along like this so as not to cause panic, in what ways do you think the American Public and other Western nations would panic in ways to bring in the National Guard and declare Martial Law?

Obviously our governments are very concerned about this, to the extent that they will continue to misinform the public about just how contagious Ebola actually is and how little we really know about it.

Also, how can the avg. citizen out there protect themselves should the public panic over Ebola and what are the kind of things we should be doing now to get ready for that very real possibility?

[Snowflower]

Raisin, the only preparation is to prepare for absolute isolation. If you cannot do it where you are, go somewhere else. I've been screaming this since 2002 and still believe it. It's true whether you are talking about peak oil, economy crash, earth changes, war, or pandemic. You might not survive if isolated, but you have a better chance than being in a city. Period.

Given the lateness of the hour, given world conditions, I would say that even if the only way to do it is to take a tent into the national forest - do it. Take a few goats with you. Take a bunch of food. Conceal a food cache. Take some books on finding food. Whatever it takes. Yeah, sounds totally outrageous. My advice used to be getting a camper and moving off the grid, learning to live with the earth. Too late now for that - no time for relative comfort. But, as long as you're breathing, there is still time to do something. And, with the maxim that the cities are death traps, the only "something" is to leave the city before you are walking out of it with nothing but a sack of food to carry.

[Roisin]

Someone wrote a book not too long ago that showed those wilderness area's in the U.S. to relocate to. Will look that up on the net but if anyone knows the name of that book, please share that here. Good advice Snowflower!

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Im convinced of the severity of this situation. If it were really this bad, they wouldn't need to try to scare the public imo, if it were really bad we wouldn't be able to lie to ourselves.

[MorningFox]

I'm surprised you think that way, if I'm honest. From my point of view the reality is the complete opposite, and they are doing everything they can to cause people to fear it.

[ghostrider]

the CDC and the TSA should be fired , I can't carry my pocket knife into the airport but , EBOLA ? come on down no problem your the next contestant on the price is right ...

[Bob]

Posted by Roisin (here)
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So my question is, if they've been lying all along like this so as not to cause panic,
in what ways do you think the American Public and other Western nations would panic
in ways to bring in the National Guard and declare Martial Law?
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http://www.sipri.org/yearbook/2002/f...IPRIYB0212.pdf

[skyflower]

http://click.lfb.org/t/DQ/lVg/nzk/AB...ENOQQ./AQ/BHlR

There's a free book on Amazon being offered for the next two days. I think it is pretty informative.
I was at a tire shop yesterday waiting for a flat to be fixed and I saw the morning news, and was horrified at the way the news was portraying this Ebola situation. No practical info, all fear inducing sensationalism. I was reminded why I don't watch msm anymore.

[Hervé]

Because this kind of things don't work no more:

... they are using reverse psychology to get the alt media to do their usual work of:

"They are lying!"

Which, unfortunately is true!

[avid]

referred to the giant pdf!

[avid]

Posted by Bob (here)

Posted by Roisin (here)
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So my question is, if they've been lying all along like this so as not to cause panic,
in what ways do you think the American Public and other Western nations would panic
in ways to bring in the National Guard and declare Martial Law?
[..]

http://www.sipri.org/yearbook/2002/f...IPRIYB0212.pdf

a real eye-opener - thanks!

[cursichella1]

Posted by Koyaanisqatsi (here)
Im convinced of the severity of this situation. If it were really this bad, they wouldn't need to try to scare the public imo, if it were really bad we wouldn't be able to lie to ourselves.

I'm not sure I get what you're saying...but to date it seems it has been mostly fear porn for the sake of making us fearful (Will the real terrorists stand up, please!), which serves the bad guys on many levels. Whether or not they introduce Ebola via intentional negligence remains to be seen.

[TargeT]

Posted by SilentFeathers
really now? What about the 100's of missionary and aid workers that came home to the states over the last few months from West Africa? Who just freely walked on planes and through our airports here and casually just drove home and blended back in to the general population?????

I guess we'll never know huh since as far as we know none were infected........something is way off about this whole ordeal IMO.

How can 100's of missionaries and aid workers, many who were allegedly working directly with ebola patients come back here and no ebola cases pop up any where?????....and then all of a sudden a Liberian man pops up infected and now they are making a big deal about this particular news crew.....sorry folks, I smell a dead skunk and starting to see this as one huge psychopathic and delirious game being played by some sick demented sorcerers.

A bio-weapon is almost always "targeted" (to get a desired effect)......I'm seeing ebola being "targeted" more and more as this whole scenario plays out...

Even if you ignore the missionaries (which is DAMN hard to do) we can look at this timeline for evidence of Ebola's non-existence or at least minimally contagious nature.

Since there is only one confirmed case in the US, we have to use that:

Posted by [URL="http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/timeline-case-ebola-diagnosed-us-26125457"
ABCnews[/URL]]Sept. 19 — Departs from Liberia on Brussels Airlines flight to Belgium.

Sept. 20 — Flies United Airlines to Dulles Airport near Washington, and then to Dallas-Fort Worth Airport.

Sept. 24 — Begins having symptoms.

Sept. 25 — Seeks medical care at hospital's emergency room for fever and abdominal pain; tells nurse he had traveled from Africa.

Sept. 28 — Returns to hospital by ambulance and is placed in isolation because doctors suspect Ebola.

Sept. 30 — Tests positive for Ebola.

Oct. 2 — Members of the family with whom Duncan was staying are confined to their home under armed guard.

Oct. 3 — Health officials say they are monitoring the health of nearly 50 people who had varying degrees of contact with Duncan, including 10 considered at higher risk. None has shown symptoms.

Oct. 4 — Hospital downgrades his condition from serious to critical.

Oct. 7 — Hospital confirms Duncan is on a breathing machine and kidney dialysis.

Oct. 8 — Duncan dies at the hospital.

Oct. 10 — The Texas Department of State Health Services announces that Duncan's remains have been cremated.

Sept 20, mass exposure happened especially now that the virus is supposedly (heavy sarcasm and doubt) Airborne and infects far earlier than ever before (before final stages which is the traditional infectious period) to over 200 passengers and upwards of 150+ airplane crew, janitorial staff, airport workers, luggage handlers etc... (remember, they are saying surfaces can now infect also, which again is a break from this diseases normal spreading vector). so we have around 300-400 people exposed as of 20 SEPT (22 days ago).

22 days have past, what happens 22 days after exposure?

Typically, symptoms appear 8-10 days after exposure to the virus, but the incubation period can span two to 21 days.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/11/he...la-fast-facts/

So 2-21 days for symptoms to show with the normal being 8-10... Since the 1st ebola case was covered SO EXTENSIVELY (fear porn tactic) it's hard to believe that any worker near Mr Duncan is NOT aware of the risks and wouldn't IMMEDIATELY seek medical attention at the slightest change in personal health; so of the estimated (my estimate) 300-400 people "exposed" to Mr Duncan not ONE has come up sick yet?

Does this not raise HUGE RED FLAGS to anyone else?

Again, I am simply functioning off what is being told by the mainstream media on this topic, so where is the lie, where is the exaggeration?

WHY are WE helping to spread the fear porn (that has already caused a state of emergency in a state with NO infections (very likely a test to see what would be tolerated, and if the fear was at a sufficient level to expand these types of actions).

Fear is, and always was your enemy when unchecked by logic and critical thinking.

do NOT let it win here.