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    Dear All,

    Please bear with me as, for lack of a better word, I tell this story. I am presenting it in this form because it is so outlandish that it may best be presented as Sci-Fi. But, as we all know, a lot of Sci-Fi is closer to reality than we might sometimes ever know, or wish to be true.

    The starting point is this thread of mine, from June 2012:

    From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis

    Anyone (after reading for a short while) who is seriously interested in the idea I'm presenting here should read my opening post there in detail.

    In the briefest summary, it presents some evidence that those heading what Richard Dolan would call THE BREAKAWAY CIVILIZATION may be planning to leave the planet.

    The evidence was slim, but it was there, and in my opinion was before us to be considered. However, I was left with all the unanswered questions that many Avalon members intelligently posed in the many pages of post replies that followed.

    I never really stopped thinking about it, but I was unable to add any more substance to the idea. So I just left it. And it continued to niggle away at the back of my mind.

    Then, a few days ago, a thought occurred to me. It came to me out of almost nowhere, late at night, and jolted me wide awake with such a lightning bolt of energy that I nearly jumped up out of bed, there and then, at half past midnight, to write it all down.

    Instead, I decided to sit on it till the morning... when I wondered: Am I NUTS?

    But I decided that just maybe I was not.

    The rest of this is told as a story, as if round a campfire. Listen up, relax (if you can!) and see what might and might not resonate.

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    First, the story I want to tell is about the Maasai in Kenya. Many of you know that I've spent quite a lot of time in Africa over the years.

    The Maasai are a dignified and distinctive tribe whose land, their own Mother Earth for many thousands of years, is what's now known as the Masai Mara National Reserve. I've been there many times. If anything on this planet would pass for the Garden of Eden, this is it.



    The Masai, like so many other aboriginal, ethnic or ancient native people all over the world, have been displaced from (= forced out of) their ancestral home. It was decided by the Government of Kenya in the 1960s that for the greater good of the country and the land itself, their homeland should be declared a National Park.... and that they should no longer be permitted to live in it.

    A familiar story.

    Now, let's imagine a fairy story here. Not quite the same story... or is it?

    For the Masai Mara, one of the most magnificent and extraordinary pieces of land on the planet, read Planet Earth herself. For the dignified and beleaguered Maasai, read you and me.

    Just imagine there was a ruling elite on the planet... like the Government of Kenya, but far, far more powerful, with unimaginable resources, and themselves ancient.

    Imagine that this elite consider themselves the guardians of the planet, and the custodians of the human race.

    Imagine that they consider that they have the absolute right to make decisions about everything and everybody in what they consider is their domain.

    Imagine that the elite have a complex pyramidal power structure. Within that structure, there may be everything one could imagine in the realm of human extremes.

    Imagine that there may be greedy, ruthless people; those that we would term psychopaths; those with strange beliefs and practices that we would call evil; those with time and attention only for control, authority, and the deepest self-interest.

    Imagine that above ALL of those, there was one individual, the capstone of the pyramid. The Godfather, as it were.

    Imagine that this individual considers himself (and is considered to be) 'Royal'.

    Imagine that somehow he does not age... or is maybe simply many, many hundreds of years old. He is 'always there'. His name is only known by those in his immediate circle.

    Imagine that he is felt to be 'untouchable'. No 'coup' would ever be considered.

    Imagine that he observes all in his domain with tolerance and dispassion. He has seen it all. He does not attend the rituals, the 'costume parties', the practices that we would call barbaric, evil and satanic.

    Imagine that he just lets that all happen. He lets it all roll. Imagine that he is the ultimate Darwinian theorist: meaning, that if things evolve in a certain way, then it's all natural and 'good'. But of course, the very act of human decision-making is also part of that natural process.

    Imagine that this individual is convinced that God does not exist. Otherwise, He would have intervened. Therefore, this man must play God. He considers it his Duty.

    Imagine that this individual does not like what he sees. He does not like the destruction of this beautiful planet. He despises the small stupidity of so many humans. He does not endorse the large-scale, destructive, power-grabbing selfishness of those below him in the power structure.

    Imagine he is a genuine lover of art, music, nature, philosophy, literature. Imagine he is a man of vision... in his own terms, by his own definition.

    Imagine that he has decided he is going to save the planet.

    And imagine that is why the ruling elite are planning to EVACUATE the planet.

    Imagine that it's been broadly decided, or agreed, or accepted, among the many races of ETs looking on, that Planet Earth should be — and the term sounds trite — a kind of GALACTIC PLANETARY WILDLIFE PARK. A huge nature reserve. For the benefit of all. That the Earth should be allowed to lie fallow, to regenerate, to heal, to recover... which it would, in maybe less than a few hundred years, without the destructive influence of Man.

    Imagine that the problem is the 'parasitic infestation' of the rest of the human race.

    Imagine that a decision has been made to rid the Earth of this parasite... using the kind of weapons we would use to rid a house of termites, or black mold. (What would we do? We would 'treat the house'... and would leave it for a while until it was EITHER safe to return.... OR we would SELL the house, now in good condition again.)

    OR, if it was a beautiful old house, of great historical and cultural interest, with a very beautiful centuries-old garden, maybe the wealthy owners, having fumigated it and restored it to its original condition, would donate it to the nation.

    Maybe no-one would live in it at all.

    Now. We know that Lockheed Skunk Works Director Ben Rich — shortly before he died — said:
    • "We now have the technology to take ET home"
    and
    • "We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity.... Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do."

    These rumors — that we already have the technology to leave the solar system if we wish — have been around for a while, from multiple sources.

    I heard personally from Project Camelot witness Gordon Novel that the nephew of a friend of his, an experienced hiker, had personally witnessed a triangular arrowhead-shaped craft in the Utah Desert, that was swallowed up in a hidden underground base in the desert floor — an advanced, manmade craft this big:



    You can hear Gordon's account of this incident here:

    http://projectavalon.net/Gordon_Nove..._2_extract.mp3
    (just two minutes long... must listen)

    Gordon, who knew a thing or two, stated that there were 8 (eight) of these giant craft, and this was nearly five years ago. It's reasonable to assume that what Richard Dolan calls the Breakaway Civilization may by now be able to amass quite a high-tech wagon train of immense FTL (faster-than-light) craft to relocate their vision of the best of the human race to another "New World" out there... a different kind of New World Order.

    Like the 'New World' across the Atlantic in the vision of the sailors in the Mayflower... but with a difference: a New World in the Stars Beyond.

    And what of those who failed to make the cut? Well, many have theorized that the ultimate throw of the dice from those who would wish to rid the Earth of its 'pestilence' is a super-plague that would quickly eliminate the great mass of humans.

    Remember, for instance (and this is just one of many references), the testimony from 'V's USAF Four Star General whistleblowing insider source (16 July 2014):

    'V', the Guerrilla Economist, posts the most important information he's ever shared (4* General reveals 'The Plan')

    Quote from the transcript:
    The second thing that the General said is this: when they bring down the United States in 2017 – when this whole thing comes apart – they have, in key locations in the United States, bioweapons placed.

    And the example that he gave me was this. If you have a 33 oz. can of Folgers coffee, and you take that can of coffee and you have this bioagent in there, and all of a sudden you walk into a busy area – let’s say an overpass in Dallas, Texas, or the George Washington Bridge right here in New York, or something similar to that, where you have a very heavy traffic area – and you just happen to open up that Folgers can.

    And if the wind outside was about – let’s say about three miles per hour or so – you could have twenty million dead in three days. Twenty million dead in three days.

    The General went on to say that this type of bioagent will affect the water, the food, and the air. It will take three days to kill, with a near 98 percent kill ratio – and he said that the initial beta tests are on the pneumonic plague and lowgrade pneumonic plague.
    If anyone does not believe this is possible, please download and read this book, THE DEMON IN THE FREEZER by Richard Preston. The PDF is free.



    http://projectavalon.net/THE_DEMON_I...rd_Preston.pdf

    So. At this point, our campfire story has maybe three alternative endings:
    • Imagine that only the elite's version of the 'cream' of the human race is evacuated, while the 'undesirable surplus' is euthanized. (This is the exact plot of the 1979 James Bond film MOONRAKER, by the way.) The planet — like the Masai Mara — is now a galactic wildlife reserve, devoid of any humans to ruin it all.
    • Imagine that most of the humans are eliminated, but not all. Maybe 500,000,000 are left. But such is the chaos and destruction, that it's only those with natural immunity — or who have somehow survived accidentally, or through their own skill, ability and wits — that remain. There might be no industry, no technology, maybe no communications and no electricity. Back to the stone age — nearly.
      Maybe that's why Matthew Stein was strongly urged by invisible sources, over 15 years ago, to research and write his very seminal and important book WHEN TECHNOLOGY FAILS.
    • A third possibility, just as unpalatable as the others. Maybe Planet Earth, minus humans, will be turned over to a non-human custodian race, with slightly different ecological/atmospheric requirements — but who are considered responsible enough to take care of the planet, in return for being given a new home.
      Like permanent caretakers. Imagine a deal may have been made... to trade planets. (Like a family in California trading their house, complete with furniture, cars, vegetable garden and all household goods, with a similar family in Australia. Deal made? Simple. Just get on a plane with a one-way ticket and your carry-on luggage to start a new life. MUCH easier than on the Mayflower.)

    Well... that was my 'download', and so here it is, fully shared. I present it as a bunch of wild ideas... that I am reasonably confident (but do show me I am wrong!) have never been considered before.

    I do NOT know if there is even the slightest bit of truth or plausibility in it. This is not based on any inside information or inside sources... except for those few clues mentioned in my ULTIMATE HYPOTHESIS thread. (Please do carefully read my first post there.)

    One of the Avalon moderators suggested I might run all this past Richard Dolan, who I consider a friend. My response was that, yes, I'd be very glad to do so... but that I knew he would not be able to refute it.

    Scary stuff, very. But we absolutely have to know what we may just possibly be up against.

    Without that — there is no chance of changing anything. All discussion is invited.


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    Default Re: THE ULTIMATE PLAN (a fairy story... maybe)

    Someone's packing up to leave this earth ... that I'll agree with. The technical and energetic means to accomplish that journey have been recovered and accumulated over the last few centuries, with increasing momentum and secrecy over the last few decades.

    As Catherine Austin Fitts notes, from her high level financial/accounting perspective, it seems we are witnessing a leveraged buy-out, with all the debts and liabilities being gathered on the books of one company, while all the assets and resources are being gathered on the books of the other company. The impending economic and financial collapse of the public global economic and monetary systems will be offset by the accumulation of immense technology, energy and mineral resources by the hidden systems.

    It's like a soon to be divorced spouse, watching the community property bank accounts being drained, and the second and third mortgages being taken out on the family home.

    However, whether they are
    1. "fumigating" the planet to restore its natural beauty, more or less bereft of humans, or whether they are
    2. sucking out the last bit of useful resources from the planet, its mineral resources, its energy, its bio-diversity and the genetically engineered slaves (us humans) present here
    that's an open question in my mind.

    I lean however to the "sucking up what they can, while they can" view ... using the threats of genocide, pandemic, holocaust, and such as part of the means to squeeze what they can out of us, and to maintain control over this herd of half-tamed, half-wild, genetic-mutant, horses known as humanity while they pack for their journey.

    If they are also intending to leave some of "their own" behind on this planet, they might also be geo- and bio- engineering earth to make a better "park" for their pleasure, but if doing so, they would have little more respect for the dominant species now here than did the Government of Kenya for the Maasai.

    Indeed, one of the implications of the understanding that humans are a genetically engineered mutant slave species is that we are therefore worth little more respect than most members of this forum hold for Monsanto's genetically engineered mutant corn, soy, cotton, wheat and other such plant species.

    Better, from that perspective, to rid earth of all its GMO's, plant and human.

    To that, I just say "no".

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    Default Re: THE ULTIMATE PLAN (a fairy story... maybe)

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Better, from that perspective, to rid earth of all its GMO's, plant and human.

    To that, I just say "no".
    Never mind that I am cursed with a defective physical genetics - that human DNA has more defects than any other life form on this planet, and that I am already in the last few decades of usefulness from my present physical being.

    I am also blessed with a higher awareness, a spirit, a soul - that can and will and should live on.

    Unlike some here, I have no conscious knowledge of how this comes to be, but somehow it is and shall be.

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    Default Re: THE ULTIMATE PLAN (a fairy story... maybe)

    If the elite want to leave Earth , I would say to them what the plajaren have said , there are many dangers in space , and always someone who carries a bigger club ...
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    Default Re: THE ULTIMATE PLAN (a fairy story... maybe)

    ...same premise playing out right now in tonight's episode of "Black list"
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    Here's my theory, one timeline will be a devastation timeline, the elite TL and they will have to leave or go underground ( unless those bunkers have not been destroyed). Another timeline will be no devastation and we humans will be left to help earth heal it will be easy since the psychopaths will be gone. Something big may will happen and the split in multiple timelines will result. I like the many earths model, it explains a lot and the government is very aware of alternate probabilities.
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    If indeed the elite are planning to exit this planet – and I cannot reasonably exclude that possibility – I cannot at the same time see how or why they would plan on leaving behind some of their (human) own as “caretakers” of the estate.

    • This planet’s control system is Draconian and hierarchically designed: all power flows from the top. It is not a holographic system of self-empowered individuals who have full access to all information and can form feedback loops for decision making. (Not yet, anyway. But the internet may be changing that… for another thread.)

    • As a Draconian system, the elite (top of the pyramid) who depart must either:

    a) have some remote means of maintaining control over those whom they leave behind as caretakers, or

    b) trust that the remaining control layer (and public inertia) will allow these to remain in control for an indefinite period, or

    c) be prepared to irrevocably abandon all control of this planet.


    • Option a) is certainly possible, and seems the most likely choice.

    • Option b) is possible but risky. What if those left in charge proceed in greed to command the planet in toto themselves and later resist the control of their departed masters?

    • Option c) is also possible but must presume that the elite will have already gained equivalent control of some other suitable planet for habitation, so that a depleted Earth can be abandoned without regret. The Draconian nature of these elite demands absolute sovereignty of whatever other planet they will have seized before moving there.

    The Breakaway Civilization hypothesis makes option c) plausible also. But if so, that will leave remnants of the power structure players (Option b) in place, so some degree of old-style control will likely remain here as the planet is cut loose. It could be theoretically possible to overthrow these less-experienced players, though, with a new paradigm. And whether we can then steer this planet to safety is another question for which I have no answers.

    So, in all, damn. I wish this fairy tale didn’t make so much sense, Bill.

    Come to think of it, Option a) is exactly what the Draco/Annunaki did do, isn't it? Perhaps a Great Cycle of history is indeed preparing to repeat itself....

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    Thank you Bill!
    This reminds me of how it was my supervisor in the AF who made me read "Cradle of Saturn".
    I will wonder until whatever happens happens, why he asked me to read that book.

    Totally about the exocivilization and some reasoning behind the exodus. might be crap tho.
    hehe! :D

    Thanks for having the #### to address this issue!!!!!!

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    Well, I enjoyed reading the story. Whether it has any plausibility, I don't know.
    I wonder what their criteria would be for those who "make the cut."

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    Alfred Lambremont Webre the author of 'The dimensional Ecology of the Omniverse' and the man claiming to be 1/3 human, 1/3 Reptilian, and 1/3 Mantis Simon Parks have a very different slant on what is coming in 2017, a positive time-line. The PTW missed their chance by not getting their act together by Dec. 2012. That was their deadline.

    The PTW are doing everything in their power to promote a full blown scare tactics scheme in every way they can. Don't be fooled by anything they throw at us. This is just my advice and my humble opinion.

    Things are sure to get worse before they get better because of the last ditch efforts by the bastards. From now to 2017 are sure to be as bad as we can imagine but we are the ones we have been waiting for. It's up to us to try and inform those who don't know whats coming down the 'Pike that there is light at the end of the tunnel.

    We have to be positive above all else. If you have not checked out Simon Parks and Alfred L. Webre now is the time to do it.
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    Thanks for the history about the tribe in Africa Bill. My views on this topic are these:

    The elite likely wouldn't leave behind earth unless a few things happened IMO. They likely wouldn't get along so well together without a common goal, and that goal is to control humanity and maintain or build upon their power. Like someone said(sorry i forget who) the elite aren't particularly united so much as they all have a bottom line. So they can collaborate together with the bottom line in mind while the opposition to tyranny fights amongst themselves etc.

    They are at the top of our civilization, why would they leave? They are the kings of the world, I doubt they would give up that title so quickly unless a few scenarios were to happen. I think without the masses to manipulate, they would be in some sort of 'mid-life crisis'. A lack of identity and purpose since they have been doing it so long.

    I have been made aware of a possible elite breakaway, the circumstances they would do it in this case, is mainly after global first contact when they are all exposed(or shortly before). Once they are dislodged from power and exposed, I feel they would indeed want to leave this planet. Maybe Dracos have worlds out there specifically for their minions, and sabotaging the race enough gets you a one way ticket. However I wouldn't want to live on such a planet. I don't think it would be very nice to only have people like Rockefellers and Clintons to converse with. They don't seem like very nice people to be around to me. Another scenario of a breakaway civ composed of elites is if this planet is due for a major disaster, and that disaster cannot be avoided. However they didn't say these summaries were all inclusive, in other words I wasn't told every scenario for a breakaway for the elite.

    I think Dracos would have transplant worlds of human elite(their created bloodliners) so in cases like our early history, they have humans to cross genetics with other humans. Although that is just a theory of mine it makes sense to me.

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    Interesting story, although it is not new to me and my take has slightly different variables, as does Michael Tsarion and others, let me spin it.

    Michael Tsarion, in his “Order of the Black Sun”, which GoodeTXSG referenced recently here and well worth the 3 hours to watch, which both Paul and myself have done in the last two weeks, highlights the four possible outcomes at the 2 hour and 57 minute mark.

    Here is the excerpt, which I find uncanny that someone uploaded this today and I was the first one to view it. Synchronicity anyone?


    The idea of the breakaway civilization where the alien interlopers leave the planet holds the highest probability. Whether they trash it when they leave in order to destroy all of the evidence, or they leave it for their pure bloodlines and never return, or they use it as a galactic summer cabin wildlife playground to come back to on vacation after they purify it, are all speculation, although all are plausible scenarios.

    When Bill references Africa as “The garden of Eden” it triggers my mind to reference Credo Mutwa’s many dialogues he had with David Icke, and how he talked about the pure ancients who still live deep in central Africa, and this caused me to question, why do the elite always start genocide in Africa, and why is almost all of central Africa totally unexplored and vacant from any of our history, and why, as Micheal Tellinger has discovered at Adam’s Calendar, is the extreme antiquity of Africa some 200,000 years ago, which could possibly be during the times of Enlil and Enki, and the original hybridization, not the ones which came from Mesopotamia, at a later hybridization some 12,000 years ago subsequent to the cataclysmic event, the loss of the alien technology, and the great flood. It’s almost as if they are keeping Africa isolated, pure, and unexplored and sacred for some reason. I highly recommend listening to Credo Mutwa. This could be the wildlife preserve scenario.

    In Michaels outcome number 2, these interlopers finally realize that they cannot break through the stargate and are interned here indefinitely, and they cull the herd, fully release their draconian totalitarian fascist system, and render the earth inhabitable for their new hybrids which are more docile, subservient, and do not carry the higher brain centers of the cerebrum and cerebellum, and whose pineal glands are completely calcified and atrophied, who can breathe radiated air developed so that those who were forced underground and cannot handle the air as it is, can now come forward to overtly rule, ergo the ancients hidden in Africa. They then enjoy their playground with their perfect hierarchy in place and their perfect slave species under 500 million.

    Michael’s scenario 3 is one I think we already played out. You see, back after the first hybrids rebelled on the continent of Mu, which could be related to Africa and the original alien interloping, and left to set up their own culture, the Archon’s then developed the second hybrid race which was more dumbed down, and more technological, on Atlantis. The great war and the great flood which occurred, was caused by the original hybrid Lemurian’s going back to rescue their Atlantean brothers, and the alien interlopers used their atomic technology, creating such heat, it almost completely destroyed the earth and the suspended water from the destroyed planet Tiamat, the photon belt, rained down and flooded the earth, raising the oceans over 300 feet. See Graham Hancocks ”Fingerprints of the Gods”. They lost all their technology in the great cataclysm and have been working to restore it ever since. They have their ties to the astral and those who feed off the energy of the humans. This symbiotic evil and vulgar relationship bears no regard for human sentience and is used only to further their agendas.

    So, this lends credence to the hypothesis that we carry in our DNA memory, at a cellular level, the horror of this cataclysm, and we would most likely not choose to recreate that event. WE do carry the visceral scars from that event and this is the discordant energy of fear, anger and grief which these alien interlopers use against us all the time, and keep us dumbed down and away from our indigenous inheritance as full sentient beings, complete with full access to the higher brain centers of the cerebrum and cerebellum.

    Scenario number four is the one I subscribe to, and resonates deeply within my DNA. When we decided to play this grand game of opposites, we agreed that the extreme polarities of duality would manifest all manner of polarized states, which would create karma and the reincarnational wheel. The originators of the dream, which are the indigenous empathic sentient souls, agreed that the dharma, the return to source, was assured and the Bodhisattva’s agreed to remain here on earth until every last soul who chose to, would return to source with their differentiated consciousness. Those who chose to remain in the lower frequencies would at some point return to the void undifferentiated, or remain in the wheels of karma and reincarnation on a planet of carnal frequency. The movie "Avatar" comes as close to this scenario that I have seen.

    As far as the immortal human, there most definitely could be Archon’s who do not die, ergo the single original Archon Anu. I think they are living in deep central Africa, yet there is also the immortal Babaji who lives high in the Himalayas where all of the ancient scrolls and the Gnostic teaching have been preserved and are available to us when we want them and we want our sovereignty back and we are no longer damaged and victimized by the visceral cellular imprint of the cataclysmic event and we are ready to heal this severed consciousness and the polarized states of duality. Everything in balance, including the immortals.

    The game is still on, and we are the ones who wrote the script, and we are the ones who get to choose the outcome.
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    Respectfully snipped for brevity's sake... ;-)

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    [...]
    Imagine that above ALL of those, there was one individual, the capstone of the pyramid. The Godfather, as it were.

    Imagine that this individual considers himself (and is considered to be) 'Royal'.

    Imagine that somehow he does not age... or is maybe simply many, many hundreds of years old. He is 'always there'. His name is only known by those in his immediate circle.

    Imagine that he is felt to be 'untouchable'. No 'coup' would ever be considered.

    Imagine that he observes all in his domain with tolerance and dispassion. He has seen it all. He does not attend the rituals, the 'costume parties', the practices that we would call barbaric, evil and satanic.

    Imagine that he just lets that all happen. He lets it all roll. Imagine that he is the ultimate Darwinian theorist: meaning, that if things evolve in a certain way, then it's all natural and 'good'. But of course, the very act of human decision-making is also part of that natural process.

    Imagine that this individual is convinced that God does not exist. Otherwise, He would have intervened. Therefore, this man must play God. He considers it his Duty.

    Imagine that this individual does not like what he sees. He does not like the destruction of this beautiful planet. He despises the small stupidity of so many humans. He does not endorse the large-scale, destructive, power-grabbing selfishness of those below him in the power structure.

    Imagine he is a genuine lover of art, music, nature, philosophy, literature. Imagine he is a man of vision... in his own terms, by his own definition.

    Imagine that he has decided he is going to save the planet.

    [...]

    So. At this point, our campfire story has maybe three alternative endings:
    • Imagine that only the elite's version of the 'cream' of the human race is evacuated, while the 'undesirable surplus' is euthanized. (This is the exact plot of the 1979 James Bond film MOONRAKER, by the way.) The planet — like the Masai Mara — is now a galactic wildlife reserve, devoid of any humans to ruin it all.
    • Imagine that most of the humans are eliminated, but not all. Maybe 500,000,000 are left. But such is the chaos and destruction, that it's only those with natural immunity — or who have somehow survived accidentally, or through their own skill, ability and wits — that remain. There might be no industry, no technology, maybe no communications and no electricity. Back to the stone age — nearly.
      Maybe that's why Matthew Stein was strongly urged by invisible sources, over 15 years ago, to research and write his very seminal and important book WHEN TECHNOLOGY FAILS.
    • A third possibility, just as unpalatable as the others. Maybe Planet Earth, minus humans, will be turned over to a non-human custodian race, with slightly different ecological/atmospheric requirements — but who are considered responsible enough to take care of the planet, in return for being given a new home.
      Like permanent caretakers. Imagine a deal may have been made... to trade planets. (Like a family in California trading their house, complete with furniture, cars, vegetable garden and all household goods, with a similar family in Australia. Deal made? Simple. Just get on a plane with a one-way ticket and your carry-on luggage to start a new life. MUCH easier than on the Mayflower.)

    Well... that was my 'download', and so here it is, fully shared. I present it as a bunch of wild ideas... that I am reasonably confident (but do show me I am wrong!) have never been considered before.

    [...]
    Well, you mention "a person who does not age" - which is quite an intriguing thought worthy of exploration in and of itself, and perhaps tied in with the figure of Anu, the purported leader of the equally purported Annunaki (whoever they really are) - but I would like to add another angle to the perspective. Perhaps similar, but the outcome may be different. I am only thinking out loud here, so bear with me.

    The elite - or Illuminati, as we have come to call them - are in control of the planet. For all practical intents and purposes, that is true. And this is also what they themselves believe. However, it is my understanding - from personal experience, and you are free to discard it as such if it doesn't resonate with you - that there is a bigger player involved here. Not an immortal individual posing as a human, and not necessarily any reptilian faction from Alpha Draconis either.

    I believe that the beings whom I myself am dealing with - read: fighting against and enduring attacks from - are the ones who are actually (and literally) at the top of the food chain in this game; their game is to simply consume and destroy the planet and everything on it, leaving nothing but a wasteland. They strive for chaos, destruction and perversion. They feed off of suffering, and they are simply put completely unfamiliar with the concepts of respect and love. They only know and see those as strategically exploitable weaknesses in their opponents - us mortals, and all those on our side of the fence. But for all intents and purposes, they are cosmic vampires and utter sociopaths/psychopaths, so while they see love and respect as strategically exploitable vulnerabilities, they do not and cannot understand them. They are demonic in every sense of the word - so long as it is not the religious sense. ;-)

    It is my belief, based upon certain signatures in their psyche, that these beings were once like humans, in the sense that they had Free Will, and they have chosen to exercise their Free Will to the fullest - essentially, just like in Satanism as defined by Anton LaVey - and have as such become degenerate specimens of their own species. A bit like Sméagol, the Hobbit who became enchanted by the One Ring and, through its poisonous influence on his psyche, became the degenerate creature called Gollum. I do not believe that these entities would be "physical" as the word is defined here on Earth, but rather that they would be a non-incarnate, ethereal species - much, much older than humanity.

    In my understanding, these beings may or may not be the soul collective whence the souls of the purportedly extraterrestrial thirteenth bloodline - or in terms of history, actually the very first bloodline - of the Illuminati came, but they certainly do leave the Illuminati under the impression that they are their non-incarnated siblings. It is therefore not unthinkable that this species uses the Illuminati - whether terrestrial or non-terrestrial in origin - as a tool for generating the suffering on this planet, but that they have no use for the Illuminati anymore after the play-out of cataclysmic events which the Illuminati have in store for us mere Earth dwellers.

    I too don't have all the answers, and like I said, I'm only thinking out loud. But to cut this long story short, I believe that there is a possibility of a fourth scenario next to the three you've listed, namely that Earth is just like an orange being squeezed dry, and that there is no intent to save Earth or anything living on it - at least, not among these vampiric entities - after the complete devastation will have been brought upon this planet.

    I do however also believe - and this is something which Selene has more or less subconsciously alluded to in post #7 and as Omniverse said in post #11 - that the beings who are in control, as well as the Illuminati themselves, have one big weakness, namely that they are addicted to that which they are doing. They are addicted to feeding off of sorrow and pain, so they have a natural and irresistible inclination to keep on causing suffering and pain. They may be squeezing out the orange, but they want to make sure that they're drawing every last drop from it. A more innocent analogy to this would be a chess game. Ultimately, the objective is to win, but it's much more fun to play the game than have your opponent resign on the first move, isn't it? ;-)

    And the Illuminati certainly love the chess games they are playing; they love the intrigues, the betrayals, the sacrifices, etc. So they are probably going to just keep on playing those games for a while longer. They are after all sadists, so while they may easily have the means to wipe us all out and get it all over and done with, they are enjoying it all too much and are therefore trying to stretch out the middle game and postpone the endgame, thinking that time is on their side and that they have nothing to lose. The arrogance before the fall. That is their weakness.

    Of course, this does not mean that we can therefore exploit that weakness all so easily, because - as I wrote in another thread started by you a while ago - we have the inertia of the masses to overcome. That is our weakness. Well, that and the fact that the elite has access to technologies which we don't have, and psychic powers far greater than ours due to their having been initiated and trained in this stuff from birth on, and with more knowledge and experience having been passed down their generations for centuries already, if not thousands of years, even.

    So, whether I'm right or wrong, how will it all play out and what are our chances? Well, that's the million <insert currency of your choice here> question, isn't it? In post #6 on this thread, cccme made an allusion to different timelines. Well, I do not believe that the timeline we are on will fork off another timeline - at least, not for the majority of us, and not without that time travel technology would be involved - but I do believe that there may be or may have been some significant point on the current timeline where some kind of singularity will or would have manifested. Some say that it was December 21st of 2012, others are now saying 2017, and I'm sure that if no cataclysmic events have taken place by then, it'll be claimed to happen in 2020, 2025 or some other later date.

    The truth is that I don't really know. None of us do. But I believe that we - whom I for the sake of convenience will now collectively refer to as The Good Guys™ - still have a chance of thwarting whatever The Bad Guys™ have in store for us. I do believe that. However, whether it will be without bloodshed and great loss is not something I'm willing to bet on, and the greater the inertia of the great unwashed masses - whom I shall for convenience refer to now as The Sheeple™ - the harder it will be.

    In the end, we must face the sad truth that in order to rebuild society into something that will actually work and in which everyone will have a chance to thrive, it is probably going to be easier to start from scratch and do it right from the ground up, than to have to convert a broken system into something that may or may not work. Or metaphorically put, it is sometimes easier to simply demolish an old house and build a new one in its stead than to patch up that old house and accept all of its legacy problems. Not that I would prefer to see the whole of society destroyed in order to create a new one, mind you! But in all likelihood, trying to rebuild something reliable upon old and shaky foundations might take a longer time and prove much harder in the end than starting anew from scratch.

    Which of those two scenarios it will eventually end up being is something we cannot predict at this point in time. All I know is that we too have that deadline to overcome, and that the inertia of the masses, if not broken, is very likely to lead us toward the scenario where the old house gets torn down entirely first before the new house can be built where the old one once stood. Alas.

    There is still time. But not all that much anymore. But as J.R.R. Tolkien made me say, "There is always hope!" :-)

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    (For PA,and Mr,Bill Ryan),(English soon),(messages simplifié)Oui,tout est possible,il n'y a rien d'impossibles,ici en,ces moments !!!!!Je ne veux pas passer pour un autre,mais en même temps que vous énoncez ces paroles,,mes pensées vont ailleurs pour penser à ceci,;"voici une genre de réponse à toutes questions de,";"Comment pouvons nous,nous entendre et résoudre tout les problèmes dans un très court laps de temps,.....????"réponse;(......."c'est d'être dans la sinchronicité des temps actuels,nous humains,nous devons êtres "un"et tous avoir l'esprit ouvert sur les réponses,mais surtout sur les résolutions des problèmes actuels,devenir "UNIS",parmi tout ces désordres,.....etc,les accomplissements de l'impossible,possible,pour des résolutions à longs termes,efficaces,significatives,durables,etc,(pour un meilleur avenir????),.......!!!!").
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    Sheesh....................never close my mind to any potential/possibility however always go to source and WOW!!

    There is much more wonder and power in source (than any entity including humans) that can facilitate what we as a collective manifest in our Universe. So the sooner we grow up and become individually and collectively sovereign within ourselves, exibiting realities of Love Abundance versus material and physical securities the better off those potentialities begin to appear.

    Should any of those potentials you downloaded become a reality with our civilization and Mother Earth, Bill, then my 3-6 month stash will be shared and I will be A Okay to move along to another realm not buying into the new created paradigm.

    In the meantime, I will keep learning, sharing and loving, while working each day to grow up and take responsibility for the reality within and around me, encouraging others to do the same, for the sake of all that is and is not!!
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    NASA administrator Charles Bolden Jr. recently said:

    Quote Only multi-planet species survive for long periods of time [...] if this species is to survive indefinitely, we need to become a multi-planet species
    If such is the future we envision for humankind, we have no reason to abandon Earth and leave our home planet behind. Yes, we could keep it as a kind of wildlife park and make some room for its other endemic species but do we really need to sacrifice the human population to reach this goal? Is there any way we can avoid the bloodshed?

    With a technological level such as the faster-than-light craft witnessed by Gordon Novel, we should be able to quickly colonize dozens of habitable exoplanets. If we on Earth can afford to go back to the stone age as it is our primordial habitat, those of us who will travel to far away distant galaxies may not have this chance. They will have to be prepared to deal with this eventuality in case technology fails.

    And if we are lucky enough to succeed, then yes, we may have to share our new homes with various ET species who already live there and we may even have the opportunity to choose the planet we wish to live on, but again, we can't afford to do it in a destructive manner because this behavior might not be tolerated by our galactic neighbors, most probably for security reasons.

    In leaving our beautiful blue 'planet of the apes', we will have to deal with the universe which gigantism is like nothing we have ever experienced before. Probably the best is to wish us good luck for the future and the many challenges which will inevitably arise and which we will overcome.

    Like ghostrider said:

    Quote there are many dangers in space , and always someone who carries a bigger club ...
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    Interesing theme but the the material aspect (3D), is the basis for conversation. The earth has a spirit and the elementals work as a communications link amongst it's vital whole. Greed and control will not sway the day, for no one owns the universe and universal law is sharing. Just my take on the situation.

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    I would like to add another part to the maybe fairy story..what if some of the ptb woke up..enough to see who there master truly is.what it is.in seing this truth..realizing that they served a master..s that intended to hold no deal or escape clause because there not human.dont think or feel as a human and don't hold to earth bound laws or morals....that they/ptb would be harvested along with the rest.so in fighting begins..cause they realize there master will not hold to terms..why would they???the elite/royal bloodlines... like noahs ark could simply bee stored for repopulation at a later time..why go through the trouble of giving a slave race another planet..???when you have one right here.shoot...mamma earth even cleans up herself given enough time..now to flip it or add another aspect,..adding halloways/viveks solid work and is very close to the mark in my op..lets say another factor comes into play..the earth has an immune system and this immune system is in full gear and building as I type and we/us you and mee..we a part of that immune system despite our treatment and non earth genes..we are still of the earth.manifesting in this timeline..in human bodies on planet earth...I feel this is something the dracos/controllers hadn't counted on or.....will do everything in there power to control..and realizing as they bear down..the harder they push..the stronger we will/are slowly becoming and are now going through..evolution...that's what I hope im seeing in this other fairy story...hope..maybe
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    I do not believe they can flew away.

    Even though they are cruel, egocentric. Procedures do not work, out side of jurisdiction.
    What comes around, that goes around.

    PS:There was Costa concordia incident.
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    Quote Posted by william r sanford72 (here)
    I would like to add another part to the maybe fairy story..what if some of the ptb woke up..enough to see who there master truly is.what it is.in seing this truth..realizing that they served a master..s that intended to hold no deal or escape clause because there not human.dont think or feel as a human and don't hold to earth bound laws or morals....that they/ptb would be harvested along with the rest.so in fighting begins..cause they realize there master will not hold to terms..why would they???the elite/royal bloodlines... like noahs ark could simply bee stored for repopulation at a later time..why go through the trouble of giving a slave race another planet..???when you have one right here.shoot...mamma earth even cleans up herself given enough time..now to flip it or add another aspect,..adding halloways/viveks solid work and is very close to the mark in my op..lets say another factor comes into play..the earth has an immune system and this immune system is in full gear and building as I type and we/us you and mee..we a part of that immune system despite our treatment and non earth genes..we are still of the earth.manifesting in this timeline..in human bodies on planet earth...I feel this is something the dracos/controllers hadn't counted on or.....will do everything in there power to control..and realizing as they bear down..the harder they push..the stronger we will/are slowly becoming and are now going through..evolution...that's what I hope im seeing in this other fairy story...hope..maybe
    truth and balance.
    I have a few perspectives about what you say here(at the beginning of your post). The elite of this world are effectively transhuman. Whether transhuman by their own knowledge, and telepathically designing their own AIs(partially), or transhuman via covert mind control by the people above them. That is the fail safe. I know for sure that if a being is under certain transhuman designs, a change of heart is impossible. That is what the Dracos and Greys have done to the elite in human form(the ones that know they are transhuman). Also they have influenced/created in ways their genetics. You could call the negative ETs the fathers of their family's line as well as their tendencies. It is likely that the minionry of the elite goes further than genetics, and the Dracos also choose souls to control, and control the same souls over time. They know how to program a soul over time. So basically I'd say the top of the elite not only have genetics and heritage, they also have likely strategically programmed souls. So even if they were not on transhuman chakra+mind lockdown, I find it hard to give credibility to the thought they could be changed so easily with the deeper end ones(like the ones Dracos would actually talk to personally over their incarnations on earth).

    However, I do think a good portion of the ruling class in the world, would change if they knew the ultimate agenda and source of control on earth. However I am quite aware of the methods used by the Dracos/Greys and they are formidable. There is no variable left unconsidered...

    I'm not sure how you use the word 'awake'. I personally find knowing the truth as a big part of being awake. And they are aware of the truth on varying levels. I have spoken with some US operatives over the years and they would say they are awake. They just have different values. Non duality type philosophy I'd find something they like, or align with. Saying dark and light and subjective and there is no real dark or light and whatever happens is the same, and doesn't matter. I personally think that is total baloney. I think they use that line of thinking to justify their deeds to themselves sometimes.

    Nothing wrong with a little hope that the elite will have a change of heart, and I think that is more possible with the ones that are transhuman without their knowledge. I have been shown simulations after global first contact, of ETs basically opening back up the US operatives hearts, and giving them some of the deepest love feelings possible. I think certain things can be done to change the elite, but due to their origins and circumstances I think advanced ETs is the only source capable of truly changing them. And that process would likely involve some mind control. At the very least deep heart chakra control(via technology).

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