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    I personally don't believe that the Universe and Source are going to allow for these parasites to just get away with all of the collateral damages that they have caused. Not to mention all of the homicides, and atrocities that have been comitted for whatever stupid reason there was.

    Just the arrogant thought that they believe that they won't be held accountable for any of those crimes, seriously??? They've got to answer for all of that, and I truly doubt that that sickness would be allowed to spread anywhere else in this Universe, or any other if the emissaries of Source have anything to say about that. They'd be wiped out before they could even leave the outer orbit of Earth.
    Actually, overt outside intervention is not allowed for ethical reasons. Imagine what would happen if (to humans) physically perceivable beings were to overtly show themselves here in such a way that the mainstream media and the governments of the world could no longer deny, not only their existence, but their involvement with humanity. Think of an overt landing of an extraterrestrial spaceship at Times Square in London or the Place de la Concorde in Paris - it doesn't always have to be the White House lawn, people.

    Belief systems would be destroyed or overturned in the blink of an eye. People - remember: we are dealing with The Sheeple™ here - would look upon these extraterrestrial beings as the New Messiahs and would immediately entrust them with power and credibility just as easily as they are entrusting governments with power and the mainstream media with credibility. After all, these visitors would be Advanced Beings™, you know - beings who had overcome all of the petty difficulties that humans are still struggling with. Or so The Sheeple™ would believe.

    Well, it doesn't work that way. ETs definitely have their own problems to deal with. They're just different problems from the ones that humanity is still struggling with today.

    Such an intervention in Earth's affairs would be wrong, and as such, ethically forbidden. It would be a violation of Free Will and sovereignty, plus that it would also open up another door for abuse by less benevolent extraterrestrials. And that in itself would then - in addition to the imminent problem of having to fight an overtly extraterrestrial enemy - create additional problematic scenarios in the long run, such as paranoia against anything that comes from outer space in an advanced craft, just like there now is paranoia against Muslims and against the Russians, thanks to the mainstream media and the western political leaders.

    That in itself would play right into the plans of The Powers That Be™. More scaremongering and more call for military action and protection. More xenophobia and cowardice. "Please, protect us. Here, take away our freedom if you must, but protect us from the Communists, from Fidel Castro, from Saddam Hussein, from Al Qaeda, from global warming, from North Korea, from Hugo Chavez, from Iran, from Putin, and from the ETs."

    Quote First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew."

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

    -- Martin Niemöller

    Source has therefore decided that intervention on Earth, while needed, was to come in another form, namely in the form of so-called "advanced" souls from all over the universe - as well as a few that aren't actually from any universe at all, beings who had never left the vicinity of Source - and these souls were to incarnate here on Earth in a physically human body, and to live among humans, completely oblivious to their own origins and their mission. Later in life, their origins and mission would be revealed to them via synchronicities, or possibly via direct and personal extraterrestrial contact in one form or another, or by other forms of awakening - e.g. hypnotic regressions.

    These souls would not stand up to become leaders or revolutionaries at the global stage, but they would work silently behind the scenes, by subconsciously and consciously vibrationally influencing the people around them, energetically nudging those into a higher state of consciousness. An awakening, if you will. After all, the objective was and still is to have humanity reclaim its Free Will and its sovereignty. Leading the horse to the water, but leaving it up to the horse whether it wants to drink or not.

    The Emissaries and Volunteers do not seek revenge on behalf of the evil done to humanity, because they know that revenge does not pay off in any way. Punishment for the sake of punishment is wrong, and it's a waste of energy. Karma will handle itself, and those who have done to Earth and its inhabitants what they've been doing for thousands of years already and what they're still doing today, will have to face the consequences of their actions on their own. Karma - which is the restoration of the harmony between energies - will make that happen. It's Source's way of teaching the bad students some manners, if you will.

    What the Emissaries and Volunteers do care about however is that very same restoration of balance and harmony. They seek to spread love, to share information, to teach, to restore the environment, to protect, and to advise. And many do all of this subconsciously, while living as humans, living seemingly normal human lives, but acting from the depths of their hearts. Others - those who have awoken to a higher degree - will also do this consciously - not just from the heart, but also from the mind - by writing books, starting communities, handing out leaflets on some street corner, creating music or other artwork that plays into people's energetic patterns [*] and/or makes people think things over, etc. And it's not just Emissaries and Volunteers who are doing this. The people whose hearts and minds the Emissaries and Volunteers could touch will in turn also start doing these things, and the ripple will spread out.


    [*] As an example, only a few hours ago, I have watched a video and heard the music of Maya Rose - whom I am honored to have on my friends list - as posted on YouTube by moderator Christine via her Faces of Avalon channel. The description Christine wrote underneath the video said that Maya Rose's music and voice had healing and protective effects, and I can testify that this is absolutely correct. Just that one song, that one video, has made me feel a lot stronger in these past hours, and more resilient against the psionic attacks with which I am constantly being bombarded. I hereby wish to extend my gratitude to Maya Rose herself, and to Christine for making that beautiful song available on YouTube.
    I completely agree with your comments above, I should have been more clear about what I meant though. In the hypothetical event that Terra and all of its inhabitants were left for dead, and they, the Breakaways tried to leave, then the scenario I depicted I feel, would be what I think would happen. But then again, Source may have other plans all together too, that's really not for me to decide.

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    Default Re: THE ULTIMATE PLAN (a fairy story... maybe)

    Quote Posted by Heartsong (here)
    The Elite Class are only elite because there exists a Non-Elite Class. If they all go underground or fly away leaving the Non-Elite behind, who will take out their garbage, plant the seeds, chop wood, carry water?
    Reminds me of the hitch hikers guide to the Galaxy- maybe the elite are building the ships to get rid of the pen pushers,accountants and hair dressers!

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    Default Re: THE ULTIMATE PLAN (a fairy story... maybe)

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    Quote Posted by Aragorn (here)
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    I personally don't believe that the Universe and Source are going to allow for these parasites to just get away with all of the collateral damages that they have caused. Not to mention all of the homicides, and atrocities that have been comitted for whatever stupid reason there was.

    Just the arrogant thought that they believe that they won't be held accountable for any of those crimes, seriously??? They've got to answer for all of that, and I truly doubt that that sickness would be allowed to spread anywhere else in this Universe, or any other if the emissaries of Source have anything to say about that. They'd be wiped out before they could even leave the outer orbit of Earth.
    Actually, overt outside intervention is not allowed for ethical reasons. Imagine what would happen if (to humans) physically perceivable beings were to overtly show themselves here in such a way that the mainstream media and the governments of the world could no longer deny, not only their existence, but their involvement with humanity. Think of an overt landing of an extraterrestrial spaceship at Times Square in London or the Place de la Concorde in Paris - it doesn't always have to be the White House lawn, people.

    Belief systems would be destroyed or overturned in the blink of an eye. People - remember: we are dealing with The Sheeple™ here - would look upon these extraterrestrial beings as the New Messiahs and would immediately entrust them with power and credibility just as easily as they are entrusting governments with power and the mainstream media with credibility. After all, these visitors would be Advanced Beings™, you know - beings who had overcome all of the petty difficulties that humans are still struggling with. Or so The Sheeple™ would believe.

    Well, it doesn't work that way. ETs definitely have their own problems to deal with. They're just different problems from the ones that humanity is still struggling with today.

    Such an intervention in Earth's affairs would be wrong, and as such, ethically forbidden. It would be a violation of Free Will and sovereignty, plus that it would also open up another door for abuse by less benevolent extraterrestrials. And that in itself would then - in addition to the imminent problem of having to fight an overtly extraterrestrial enemy - create additional problematic scenarios in the long run, such as paranoia against anything that comes from outer space in an advanced craft, just like there now is paranoia against Muslims and against the Russians, thanks to the mainstream media and the western political leaders.

    That in itself would play right into the plans of The Powers That Be™. More scaremongering and more call for military action and protection. More xenophobia and cowardice. "Please, protect us. Here, take away our freedom if you must, but protect us from the Communists, from Fidel Castro, from Saddam Hussein, from Al Qaeda, from global warming, from North Korea, from Hugo Chavez, from Iran, from Putin, and from the ETs."

    Quote First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew."

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

    -- Martin Niemöller

    Source has therefore decided that intervention on Earth, while needed, was to come in another form, namely in the form of so-called "advanced" souls from all over the universe - as well as a few that aren't actually from any universe at all, beings who had never left the vicinity of Source - and these souls were to incarnate here on Earth in a physically human body, and to live among humans, completely oblivious to their own origins and their mission. Later in life, their origins and mission would be revealed to them via synchronicities, or possibly via direct and personal extraterrestrial contact in one form or another, or by other forms of awakening - e.g. hypnotic regressions.

    These souls would not stand up to become leaders or revolutionaries at the global stage, but they would work silently behind the scenes, by subconsciously and consciously vibrationally influencing the people around them, energetically nudging those into a higher state of consciousness. An awakening, if you will. After all, the objective was and still is to have humanity reclaim its Free Will and its sovereignty. Leading the horse to the water, but leaving it up to the horse whether it wants to drink or not.

    The Emissaries and Volunteers do not seek revenge on behalf of the evil done to humanity, because they know that revenge does not pay off in any way. Punishment for the sake of punishment is wrong, and it's a waste of energy. Karma will handle itself, and those who have done to Earth and its inhabitants what they've been doing for thousands of years already and what they're still doing today, will have to face the consequences of their actions on their own. Karma - which is the restoration of the harmony between energies - will make that happen. It's Source's way of teaching the bad students some manners, if you will.

    What the Emissaries and Volunteers do care about however is that very same restoration of balance and harmony. They seek to spread love, to share information, to teach, to restore the environment, to protect, and to advise. And many do all of this subconsciously, while living as humans, living seemingly normal human lives, but acting from the depths of their hearts. Others - those who have awoken to a higher degree - will also do this consciously - not just from the heart, but also from the mind - by writing books, starting communities, handing out leaflets on some street corner, creating music or other artwork that plays into people's energetic patterns [*] and/or makes people think things over, etc. And it's not just Emissaries and Volunteers who are doing this. The people whose hearts and minds the Emissaries and Volunteers could touch will in turn also start doing these things, and the ripple will spread out.


    [*] As an example, only a few hours ago, I have watched a video and heard the music of Maya Rose - whom I am honored to have on my friends list - as posted on YouTube by moderator Christine via her Faces of Avalon channel. The description Christine wrote underneath the video said that Maya Rose's music and voice had healing and protective effects, and I can testify that this is absolutely correct. Just that one song, that one video, has made me feel a lot stronger in these past hours, and more resilient against the psionic attacks with which I am constantly being bombarded. I hereby wish to extend my gratitude to Maya Rose herself, and to Christine for making that beautiful song available on YouTube.
    I completely agree with your comments above, I should have been more clear about what I meant though. In the hypothetical event that Terra and all of its inhabitants were left for dead, and they, the Breakaways tried to leave, then the scenario I depicted I feel, would be what I think would happen. But then again, Source may have other plans all together too, that's really not for me to decide.
    Well, I would like to believe that this is exactly why Source has sent us - i.e. the Emissaries and Volunteers - or perhaps better put, that the very fact that we are here and in this day and age is the very manifestation of Source's intervention itself, and by consequence, that the planned cataclysmic event(s) will not happen. I think Source would not waste its energy intervening in something if Source were not convinced that this intervention would pay off exactly as planned.

    Of course, we do not know what is planned - neither by The Bad Guys™, nor by Source. But that is where one must have a little faith, or perhaps just hope. Faith in ourselves and in Source's wisdom. Hoping for the best, while expecting the worst.

    In the end, there can be only one. -- "Highlander"

    But the game isn't over yet, my friend. Not quite. ;-)

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    I am going to rub a lot of folks the wrong way. Nevertheless, Bill said all views are welcome. So, here is mine:

    I say we are on the brink of all out war among ourselves because we are at war with another greater foe. Someone in the know is doing everything for the survival of our species. Yes, I do have more faith in the PTB while most if not all view them no less than pure evil.

    If Earth is to be dumped then why building all the DUMBs for the past 50 years or more? Why the seed vaults? Why keeping on the edge of MAD? Why systematically poisoning ourselves, the water we all drink, the air we all breathe? Why the Solar Fleet? Why still weaponizing space? Why despite all differences, scientists around the world still work with each other? Why not just get rid of all useless eaters long ago while there were too many of them? Why all the diseases still under controlled and measured? Why spend all the time and effort doing all this instead of just packing up and leave?

    If I were to despite my neighbors so much I would just turn my back and don't even care to say good bye.

    I say we are at war with something. In war, sacrifices are made. If we were to retreat, we made d@## sure whatever is left behind will not be of the enemy's benefit. And that if there is a good chance that we will have to go into hiding - under ground - we will want to make sure the surface will be inhabitable for them. To work is set, the fuse will be lit if and when necessary. So, we are on the brink of internal war - this war is carefully orchestrated and controlled.

    Why killing ourselves and not unite to fight the thing. Ah! Too many of us are like children holding sticks against the cannibal savages. Forget about a spiritual war. This is a war where that something like to eat our physical flesh, because we are, say tasty?!

    The butterfly caterpillars eat poisonous plants to save themselves from predators. We are being poisoned but not to death, not necessarily yet anyway.

    I do have faith in all humanity, despise our differences - the PTB or Avalon. I only try to see the goodness beyond the veil of evil.

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    Default Re: THE ULTIMATE PLAN (a fairy story... maybe)

    Quote Posted by East Sun (here)
    Alfred Lambremont Webre the author of 'The dimensional Ecology of the Omniverse' and the man claiming to be 1/3 human, 1/3 Reptilian, and 1/3 Mantis Simon Parks have a very different slant on what is coming in 2017, a positive time-line. The PTW missed their chance by not getting their act together by Dec. 2012. That was their deadline.

    The PTW are doing everything in their power to promote a full blown scare tactics scheme in every way they can. Don't be fooled by anything they throw at us. This is just my advice and my humble opinion.

    Things are sure to get worse before they get better because of the last ditch efforts by the bastards. From now to 2017 are sure to be as bad as we can imagine but we are the ones we have been waiting for. It's up to us to try and inform those who don't know whats coming down the 'Pike that there is light at the end of the tunnel.

    We have to be positive above all else. If you have not checked out Simon Parks and Alfred L. Webre now is the time to do it.
    I'm leaning toward this theory also. Alfred Webre theorizes that there was a timeline shift form the previous negative timeline where Edgar Cayce saw a global coastal event, and in 1971 the DARPA project (~1971), with the Chrono-visor viewer, also saw the Supreme Court under brackish water in 2013. Due to the DARPA project, Nixon, Rumsfield, and Kissinger made the executive decision to secretly start build trillions upon trillions of dollars of D.U.M.B.S. Then you have Courtney Brown's huge remote viewing project in 2010, which again saw the Capitol under water in 2013, which made the decision to build those bases a good decision. ( It didn't happen in 2013)

    Why, because the shift began and we are on another timeline. I like Webre, believe the Mayan calendar wasn't just a time map, but a map of consciousness. Positive timeline = positive future. Each human through positive intentions and meditations, can tune into this morphic field of Unity Consciousness.

    Are they leaving? Possibly, the upper echelons (high flyers)
    Do they have the means? Yes
    Do they know where they are going? Yes
    Have they cut a deal with an ET race? Yes
    Will they use the DUMBS? Some Will.
    Do they care what happens to us? Absolutely not

    My big quandary is if we are on a different timeline, a more positive timeline, will this also benefit the pyramid hierarchy? (or) Due to their negativity and the nature of their harmful intentions to the rest of us, will they shift back to the negative timeline.

    Also, I have felt that Dolores Cannon's splitting into 2 earths during an evolutionary event also holds a myriad of possibilities. If we are inside a space/time hologram isn't it possible that we could be on a positive time line and the splitting could occur?
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    Default Re: THE ULTIMATE PLAN (a fairy story... maybe)

    Thank you Bill for your interesting if not alarming "Tale"

    I would just like to add and I hope I'm right in my thinking. I believe our wonderful planet is a soul in her own right and to be here you have to be of her, of the correct vibration. Humans belong here. This is our home.

    Some humans have forgotten, have been "infected " by outside unseen forces, which are using, our ever increasing, Inhuman, technology to increase their stronghold over us. To change our world to match theirs.

    Will the Earth allow this?
    Will she side with us?
    We have so much to undo, to relearn. Given the chance I'm sure we can.

    Like so many others I personally know and remember being called here.
    Trouble with humans we leave everything till the last minute. I'm hoping we will not be too late and that the Earth abides along with us too.

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    no no don't frighten these lovely people ,let em go ,amen
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    If the elite want to leave Earth , I would say to them what the plajaren have said , there are many dangers in space , and always someone who carries a bigger club ...

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    I concur with this statement from a friend of mine....

    One thing to remember is that is about our choice. There is a big timeline separation between individuals who are subscribing to a world of fear, disaster, and power over others and those who aren't subscribing to that and want to have an empowered and really amazing experience on this planet.

    It might be a sense of awareness and what we see individually, but no one is about to choose you or imprison you with out a Higher Self agreement. It is up to us. We do the choosing. At the end of the day we choose what kind of reality we are going to continue have over here.

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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Better, from that perspective, to rid earth of all its GMO's, plant and human.

    To that, I just say "no".
    Never mind that I am cursed with a defective physical genetics - that human DNA has more defects than any other life form on this planet, and that I am already in the last few decades of usefulness from my present physical being.

    I am also blessed with a higher awareness, a spirit, a soul - that can and will and should live on.

    Unlike some here, I have no conscious knowledge of how this comes to be, but somehow it is and shall be.
    Fantastic post... better put than from with the words I was attempting to put forth - I just had to re-post this post.

    Thanks, Paul... The Spirit is eternal and one's Soul can be immortal IMO and I don't know why but somehow it is and shall be.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    The best and most enduring myths will spring from the humble grassroots. Mark my words.

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    Ulli that reminds me of the dream of Carl Jung. after the wars, his vision of the new tree of life blossoming out of the frosty wasteland.
    the people come to him, surrounding the tree, needing to be fed. and like magic, the earth provides -- small leaves become full fruits,
    and the people do not want.

    we all have a dream and only some will see the promised land.. but we can all help them get there.

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    Quote Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN (here)

    Hi Bill. Interesting ideas. They certainly got me thinking. I have a question: now that all this time has passed and because the original thread you linked to mentions him, what are your thoughts on "Charles" nowadays?
    Good question. As best I recall, 'Charles' stated the following. (See below...)

    Note: he did NOT know everything. He knew about ETs, but was not personally very interested in that aspect of the big picture. From what I understood, quite a bit of what he knew had been picked up along the way from conversations he had heard, or been in the fringe of.

    These notes I believe are to be very seriously considered. They ring true. They came from our very earliest conversations, in August 2010 when he first contacted me, in two long Skype calls a week apart, each lasting several hours.

    • The human race as we know it is the outcome of an ET experiment.
    • The ET experimenters are 100% benign and non-violent. They will not interfere, whatever happens in their experiment (which has been in progress for just under a million years, with another two million to run).
    • What was UNPLANNED is that the human race would get hold of advanced technology (from UFO crashes, which were never intended or anticipated by the experimenters) — and use this to escape the planet and go off into the galaxy.
    • The ET experimenters are very worried about this, because of how warlike and aggressive humans often are. Nevertheless, they will NOT take any action to prevent or stop this.
    • Those who consider they 'rule' the human race and the planet intend to reduce the global population. 'Charles' thought they would do this through engineered famine. The 'natural selection' that would ensue would mean that the smartest and most able (apart from the forewarned and prepared elite) would survive. So the human race would be 'optimized' through this very strong 'environmental challenge to the species' (as biologists put it).
    • After the human race was greatly thinned out, and 'optimized' (with a surviving group of now higher average ability, capability, health, strength and intelligence), that group would be controlled, harnessed, and used to go out into the galaxy.
    • My analogy from the above: the monkeys in the laboratory cage have got hold of the keys to the cage, have grabbed the weapons, found the keys to the truck, and are about to jump into the truck and all go off downtown as fast as they can. And the scientists in the lab, while all this was unplanned, just continue observing and taking notes.

    None of the above is in any way incompatible with the Fairy Story presented here.......

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    Yes Bill you are nuts! Aren't we all though for coming here and going through all this drama! Certainly entertaining anyway.

    My initial thought after reading your post,was why bother going through all the hassel of doing what they have been doing?

    Then i thought,maybe to keep the (negative) energy supply (to their 4th dimensional masters,Archons ect) in full flow.

    Then i thought,that being the case,if they leave and we all die,what happens to those who previously needed said energy supply?

    Then i thought,maybe the Archons ect,know this new energy is coming in and are admiting defeat and will set up another planet for the same treatment we have had,whilst taking out as many of us as possible as a fairwell gift!

    Then i thought,yep i am nuts

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    There is a fourth possibility. And it shouldn't be overlooked, or not considered.

    That being, this is just a campfire story.

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    There are lots of "Fairy Stories" and Dis-Info Stories going around right now that is for sure.

    Things have become extremely more complicated among the "Elites" and by proxy now for us... Indeed there is a lot to the rumors about Africa and deals made by the "Elite" who planned to be gone by now or leaving the Earth very soon...

    As I stated in the "SSP" Thread, there are Multiple "Break Away Civilizations from the "Current Era" and from "Ancient Earth Civilizations" who have stuck around. There are Multiple "Secret Earth Governments" with the "CABAL" being only One...

    There are even "Multiple Secret Space Programs" each with their own "Leaderships" and "Ideologies" which have been in a state of "Cold War" for a long time (Working together in extreme times) and have most recently been in a "Stealth Civil War"... Each program alligned with various "Off World Groups, "Human Like" Entities and AI Based Life Forms. The Greys, Draco's and Mantid's have only been a part of the over all equation.

    If this wasn't already complicated enough there have been quite a number of "New Arrivals" in our Sol System that have not provided "FOF Signals" or Identified themselves as a "Friend or Foe" (Some think they have arrived for "The Big Show" others for "Darker Reasons")...

    There has also been an extreme "energetic change" in our Sol System (And local Star Cluster if not a larger region) over all that has caused wide problems with the "Portal Travel Systems" that were to be used as escape routs by many of the "Elites" to some "Off World" Colonies at a certain time.

    Many of these Portal end points are not connecting to the proper destination and some of their end points are now flailing around in open space while others are completely non operational (Not all are affected). This has caused the closing of some pretty large Black Operations and raised tensions even further among the various "Secret Earth Government Leader's".

    There is quite a lot of histeria among these "Elites" right now and the over all situation is way more complicated than most of us have been led to believe over the years, though we have come a long way of only talking about "Little Green Men" and "Flying Saucers"... IMHO.

    The next few years should be very interesting indeed...


    More: U.S. Has 8 Cigar Shaped UFOs In Space Fleet Used For “Solar Warden,” Program To Protect Solar System - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post887742

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    If I'm creating this reality I say "no" to this plan. A few others took the words right out of my mouth, too. It doesn't make sense for so many reasons. Leave and go where? THIS is a gorgeous planet. If they go somewhere else, who will they interact with other than themselves? That's no fun. There will be no one to be elite over. They gonna take a slave race with them to do all their chores? That won't last long. There is no sense in polluting and abandoning this planet when the technology and intelligence has existed for decades to feed, clothe and get energy to everyone and more without polluting. We have the ability to live as enlightened stewards on this planet, elite, poor and everyone in between. I have no problem with the elite being elite. I'd like to let them keep making their money so long as everyone that makes money does so in a way that doesn't harm the planet and people. We can DO this easily and live in harmony. The problems of this world are caused by just a few really. I think we just need to clean house and I believe that time is coming. I don't know how it will happen but I believe something will go down and then, like dominoes, it will pick up pace.
    A wonderful topic of discussion Bill. Thanks!

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    I care not whether the elite leave this Earth and go to the moon or Mars. It would be a relief for me if they just left. Good riddance. What concerns me though is that they don't kill any of us by any of their wild plans. We shouldn't try to stop them leave the planet, but should encourage them. The people of this Earth I hope would fight them with all their might as I would. There would be millions upon millions in each country that would give up their lives to save mankind and our beautiful planet. The protection of our children and grandchildren is our duty. Let them try. All the nations on Earth instead of fighting with each other would unite instead and have a common enemy for the first time in history. The elite wouldn't stand a chance in a million. They would be told: leave quietly to wherever you wish we will help you pack.

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    Quote •The human race as we know it is the outcome of an ET experiment.
    •The ET experimenters are 100% benign and non-violent. They will not interfere, whatever happens in their experiment (which has been in progress for just under a million years, with another two million to run).
    •What was UNPLANNED is that the human race would get hold of advanced technology (from UFO crashes, which were never intended or anticipated by the experimenters) — and use this to escape the planet and go off into the galaxy.
    This is quite logical to me , it could have been the Annunaki in a lab in Africa , per
    Sitchin, Tellinger and very topical with the various virus outbreaks coming from
    that region man made or natural , aids , Ebola. Though if you go back in history
    there have been many plagues not necessarily coming out of Africa. It could be the
    Greys or some other race , but they seem to be interfering to much if abductions
    and interactions are anything to go by.

    The Booteans the local galactic ambassadors who have monitored us for millions of
    years and aprox 27,000 yrs ago changed a existing hominoid on earth by altering
    the jaw and wrist/thumb, and may be the ET's who have been helping China since
    the mid 1990's. Although the date of 27 ,000 does not seem long enough ago ? Or
    there could be other race or races involved......

    The Pleiadians interacted with the North American Indians and some other
    interesting info in the discussion on the link below , Bob reads from a leaflet
    channelled by the Evergreens, Bob worked in intelligence for MI5 and others
    before retiring and going into the media in the 1980's. He is still going strong
    in his 90's, his last show last sat/sun was 18hrs long live, and they are a
    phenomenon in there own right, though an acquired taste. I find amongst the
    deliberate ' babble' there is really good info....

    Some of this is channelled info, but the Elites have always channelled and still do.....

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    Sorry Bill, I liked your analogy....LOL


    Quote My analogy from the above: the monkeys in the laboratory cage have got hold of the keys to the cage, have grabbed the weapons, found the keys to the truck, and are about to jump into the truck and all go off downtown as fast as they can. And the scientists in the lab, while all this was unplanned, just continue observing and taking notes.

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    That is an interesting reference,
    There was a reference to "The Experiment" in the documentation provided at the "UN Type Conference" I mentioned in the other post... It reminded me of the "Hitch Hickers Guie to the Galaxy" kind of theme of an experiment...


    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Quote •The human race as we know it is the outcome of an ET experiment.
    •The ET experimenters are 100% benign and non-violent. They will not interfere, whatever happens in their experiment (which has been in progress for just under a million years, with another two million to run).
    •What was UNPLANNED is that the human race would get hold of advanced technology (from UFO crashes, which were never intended or anticipated by the experimenters) — and use this to escape the planet and go off into the galaxy.
    This is quite logical to me , it could have been the Annunaki in a lab in Africa , per Sitchin, Tellinger and very topical with the various
    virus outbreaks coming from that region man made or natural , aids , Ebola. Though if you go back in history there have been many
    plagues not necessarily coming out of Africa. It could be the Greys or some other race , but they seem to be interfering to much
    if abductions and interactions are anything to go by.

    The Booteans the local galactic ambassadors who have monitored us for millions of years and aprox
    27,000 yrs ago changed a existing hominoid on earth by altering the jaw and thumb, and may be
    the ET's who have been helping China since the mid 1990's. Although the date of 27 ,000 does
    not seem long enough ago ? Or there could be other race or races involved......

    Some of this is channelled info, but the Elites have always channelled and still do.....

    Booteans
    Memes, Ira Einhorn, Walter Breen
    8 March 2005



    Michael Blake Read
    (Born May 22, 1938 - January 27, 2013)



    http://www.theevergreensproject.com/


    Default What the Illuminati Know about ET's & Human evolution.....

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...erset+Booteans

    400,000 years, Oldest Human DNA Leads To More Questions Than Answers ( major changes last 5 yrs)

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ans#post877903



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    Sorry Bill, I liked your analogy....LOL


    Quote My analogy from the above: the monkeys in the laboratory cage have got hold of the keys to the cage, have grabbed the weapons, found the keys to the truck, and are about to jump into the truck and all go off downtown as fast as they can. And the scientists in the lab, while all this was unplanned, just continue observing and taking notes.


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    "So. At this point, our campfire story has maybe three alternative endings:
    • Imagine that only the elite's version of the 'cream' of the human race is evacuated, while the 'undesirable surplus' is euthanized. (This is the exact plot of the 1979 James Bond film MOONRAKER, by the way.) The planet — like the Masai Mara — is now a galactic wildlife reserve, devoid of any humans to ruin it all.
    • Imagine that most of the humans are eliminated, but not all. Maybe 500,000,000 are left. But such is the chaos and destruction, that it's only those with natural immunity — or who have somehow survived accidentally, or through their own skill, ability and wits — that remain. There might be no industry, no technology, maybe no communications and no electricity. Back to the stone age — nearly.
      Maybe that's why Matthew Stein was strongly urged by invisible sources, over 15 years ago, to research and write his very seminal and important book WHEN TECHNOLOGY FAILS.
    • A third possibility, just as unpalatable as the others. Maybe Planet Earth, minus humans, will be turned over to a non-human custodian race, with slightly different ecological/atmospheric requirements — but who are considered responsible enough to take care of the planet, in return for being given a new home.
      Like permanent caretakers. Imagine a deal may have been made... to trade planets. (Like a family in California trading their house, complete with furniture, cars, vegetable garden and all household goods, with a similar family in Australia. Deal made? Simple. Just get on a plane with a one-way ticket and your carry-on luggage to start a new life. MUCH easier than on the Mayflower.)"

    ...these three endings are not alternative at all - all three can happen as stages of a process...
    but! one can not make things right by doing wrong - so here is the right ending:
    - the idea of cleaning the house is a false alarm
    - which will force the elite to leave and find a new home somewhere else - good luck to them, I can't wait
    - once left alone , the humanity will come to their senses as greed is not natural for us (as it is not for the rest of the inhabitants of this planet whose dna we share)
    - the middle way is found - nobody gets killed
    - it's all for better...as it always is
    (sorry, if this is not very dramatic )
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