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    Default Re: 'I don't trust politicians & corporations in this country' Russell Brand - BBC Newsnight 24 oct...

    Dear Cidersomerset,

    I get that you like Russel Brand. I don't. I guess it is the "Socialist egalitarian system based on the massive redistribution of wealth and heavy taxation of corporations" that bugs me.

    I'll stop getting in your hair and leave you and this thread be. Agree to disagree as they say.

    Good night and good luck.

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    Default Re: 'I don't trust politicians & corporations in this country' Russell Brand - BBC Newsnight 24 oct...

    Quote Dear Cidersomerset,

    I get that you like Russel Brand. I don't. I guess it is the "Socialist egalitarian system based on the massive redistribution of wealth and heavy taxation of corporations" that bugs me.

    I'll stop getting in your hair and leave you and this thread be. Agree to disagree as they say.

    Good night and good luck.
    No probs I think Russell has plenty of floors and is not the 'messiah' and is
    one of those personalities that splits opinion. As I said I'm not a fan of
    his comedy and his early antics with 'saxgate' and other extrovert
    provocative antics are certainly not my cup of tea.

    But looking where he came from and what he is trying to do, I think
    he at least needs us to respect that. He could come off the wagon
    at any time and if he really becomes a thorn in the establishments
    side. His water will soon be spiked or some other mishap or scandal
    will befall him and he will be disgraced or discredited.

    He has come to the alternate community thru his rehabilitation from
    drugs and alcohol abuse and reading enlightened works etc. He does
    a daily podcast commenting on the days news and turns up for
    protests and still has one foot planted in the real world, if the other
    is still in Hollywood and entertainment. But as you say a word from
    the right people and he could be blacklisted and back trying to make
    his living on the comedy circuit and 'Celebrity Big Bros' or 'Jungle'
    heading for a faded star.

    The proceeds of his lastest book he is currently promoting is to
    set up a juice bar , to be run and be available by recovering
    addicts. If he is some sort of agent of the Fabians or some
    other group time will tell.But I don't think he is.

    Thanks for your input Rambler , its made a discussion at least...LOL

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    Default Re: 'I don't trust politicians & corporations in this country' Russell Brand - BBC Newsnight 24 oct...

    Russell is an effective up-setter of apple carts - we see it on the media and we see it on forums!

    We need those people. The way things are must change. We do need to share more to be honest. Social perfection is not what is being sought - thats just a good argument to hit him with. What he and I assume most of us want is to step away from the extremes we have today where the "1%" control, largely by elaborate deception, the 99%.

    Do you really think he is doing a messianic saviour act? Most of that is what other people say about him and not due to any claims made by himself (apart from the hairstyle and penchant for spirituality).

    I think he allows it to go unchallenged as it creates the necessary controversy to keep the media intrested on having him on the box. He is good at the same games the MSM play. Fun to see actually, and he is not the only one, there are a lot of comedians who use the "court jester" archetypes where such are protected from being censured for telling the truth as its "just comedy" innit? But we know....

    Based on the stories he has told of his background he has trod a remarkable path.

    I think the man is quite amazing.
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    Default Re: 'I don't trust politicians & corporations in this country' Russell Brand - BBC Newsnight 24 oct...

    It'a s shame that your message can ben thanked only one time, Anchor, but I want to applaud it.

    If Russell hadn't been an drug addict and hadn't suffered as much he had then it is very possible that he would not be on this path. He is funny and intelligent, with a bit of craziness (but that comes with his hardwiring). When I compare him to others, only Bill Hicks and George Carlin come to my mind.
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    Default Re: 'I don't trust politicians & corporations in this country' Russell Brand - BBC Newsnight 24 oct...

    If this clown wasn't reading from a script he wouldn't be getting all the attention that he is. Look beyond the script on the screen and his choreographed performances and toward the intentions of those who are telling him to read it to you. My theory is he is controlled opposition (obviously) for the purpose of stiring up left wing utopian ideologies by mixing humour and calling for legalisation of drugs with more like ending etc to appeal to a certain audience, possibly as an alternative to UKIP (if there is such a thing)

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    ‘Stay cool!’ Russell Brand calls for peaceful protest at Million Mask March



    Published on 5 Nov 2014


    Protesters and police engaged in a tense and prolonged stand-off outside London’s Buckingham Palace as
    metal barriers cordoning off the area were removed and protesters incited police to fight. Russel Brand
    showed up at the rally. He called for a peaceful and lovely protest as media and activists surrounded him.

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    Tense stand-off between Million Mask March protesters and police in London



    Published on 5 Nov 2014


    Protesters and police engaged in a tense stand-off with sporadic scuffles erupting
    across central London amid mass acts of civil disobedience. At least 10 Million Mask
    March protesters were detained after breaching cordons and inciting police to fight.
    Harry Fear has been following the rallies at the scene.
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    How Do We Deal With Police Violence? Russell Brand The Trews (E184)





    Published on 6 Nov 2014


    Russell Brand The Trews (E184).
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    Default Re: 'I don't trust politicians & corporations in this country' Russell Brand - BBC Newsnight 24 oct...

    Russell is now going to face a sustained period of riddicle and harrassment.
    He's challenging the legitimacy of the corporates and MSM .. there's a danger
    that he'll wake up the sheep... and provoke them into thinking for themselves.

    If Russell can endure this and begins to gain traction with the public...
    ... make no mistake, the establishment will regard him as a real and present danger
    to the established order. In the first wave of attacks, he will be assailed with
    ridicule and harrassment. If his cause prospers beyond that .. more desparate
    measures might be taken against him.

    Critics of the established order often die quite suddenly
    (usually of some 'plausible' cause).

    George Carlin - heart attack (yet he was known to be a health freak)
    Robin Williams - apparent suicide
    Bill Hicks - liver cancer
    Jim Trefficant - Bizzare tractor accident ??
    JFK - shot (murdered by CIA/FBI)
    John Lenon - shot (CIA implicated)

    I might also point out this article by Prof Schellhorn about the strange
    incidence of deaths amongst UFO investigators (Phil Schnieder, Karla Turner etc)
    http://karlaturner.org/articles/rela...e_killing.html

    There are some notable exceptions to this pattern:
    David Icke
    Kerry Cassidy (one attempted poisoning attempt, that i'm aware of)
    Steven Greer (several suspicious deaths around Dr Greer)
    Billy Meier (there are 30 assassination attempts _documented_ on Billy's life)
    Simon Parkes (so far)

    This latter group putatively are being protected by non-humans.
    Russel may need similar protection if his cause gains ground.

    Perhaps he should get in touch with Edward Griffin.
    Griffin's just starting his own 'freedom movement' (check his website - reality zone)
    Griffin has intellectual weight and a deep knowledge of how the
    corruption machine works... that might make for an interesting alliance.

    If he succeeds in at least reducing the corporate, political
    and banking corruption. He would be doing mankind a massive service.

    Probably a good way of showing your support would be to buy his
    book... even if you can't be arsed reading it... send it to a friend
    as an Xmas present. Or buy several copies.. read one .. and send two.

    If anything _does_ happen to Russel Brand in the next couple of
    years (like cancer, suicide or bizzare machinery accident)...
    ... then we definitely need a revolution.

    be happy

    lucidity :-)

    PS... Addendum, as suggested by TRACE (below).
    You could also show your support by subscribing to
    Brand's youtube channel 'Trews'.
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    Default Re: 'I don't trust politicians & corporations in this country' Russell Brand - BBC Newsnight 24 oct...

    You're absolutely right, lucidity. The likes of David Icke seem too crazy and fringe to the ordinary people so they are not seen as a danger to the establishment, but when the likes of Brand (for some reason he reminds me of Lennon, who was murdered too) start to gain to attraction they will become an annoyance. Though I think that the man is not afraid to die for his ideals. You can try to erase the so called personality who is advocating universal peace and equality, but you just can't kill the idea...

    "Behind this mask there is more than just flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea... and ideas are bulletproof."


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    Default Re: 'I don't trust politicians & corporations in this country' Russell Brand - BBC Newsnight 24 oct...

    I really don't understand the blatant fear of Russell Brand in some. The things that frighten people these days is actually hilarious ... The super rich and powerful elite are using Russell brand to promote equality among everyone and a more productive redistribution of wealth, because they feel they have too much money and power??? I don't understand this chain of logic and not one person who claims he is a shill, tries to explain this logic. Comments like "I don't like this one phrase he said once so he is evil!" is utterly ridiculous. I was drawn to this book once then I saw the cover and concluded that it sucked.

    I am not saying that Russell Brand is flawless, a saviour (only those who dislike him call him that then judge him because he is called that - haha! it is so true!), or anything like that. He is only trying to be a catalyst for individuals to take charge and create what they want from this world and take their rights and resources back from those who have taken them -- if you've seen any breadth of his videos, this is the only message he is really trying to get out.

    That said, I do reserve a small amount of my "fair logic" for this concept: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post893471
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    Default Re: 'I don't trust politicians & corporations in this country' Russell Brand - BBC Newsnight 24 oct...

    Suggestions for the interested: There are plenty of funny, informative, thought-provoking trews-casts available on Russell's YouTube channel... subscribe to the Trews, subscribe to the Trews! (New casts Monday-Friday every week!)... Also, check out the lovely David DeGraw and get your hands on his little book - The Economics of Revolution - great stuff and great work from both of the lads on both sides of the pond there! Love 'em to bits, bless 'em!
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    Default Re: 'I don't trust politicians & corporations in this country' Russell Brand - BBC Newsnight 24 oct...

    subscribing to 'Trews' ... an excellent suggestion.
    Thanks for that Trace :-)

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    Default Re: 'I don't trust politicians & corporations in this country' Russell Brand - BBC Newsnight 24 oct...

    I watch the Trews to find out which "brand" of Rothschild agenda, Russell is promoting in the moment. Whether that is Fabian socialism. Whether it's revolutionary socialism? Communism? Anthropogenic climate change?

    His girlfriend's brothers are married to Rothschilds and all of them, including dear Rushill Rothschild Brand are working for the Rothschild rag called New Statesman.

    He can't even bring himself to call 911 out as an inside job. The guy is a total waste of time. He is funny, though.

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    Default Re: 'I don't trust politicians & corporations in this country' Russell Brand - BBC Newsnight 24 oct...

    What we need at the top are dedicated servants of humanity, people who want what is Honorable, just and moral. People who care about people and not Ego or monetary wealth.
    We don't need business-people, Old-School and or old-wealth running the world!

    Basically we need a whole new priority in this world at all levels.

    As if we don't all know the above ha, it's very easy to say ha!
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
    We need LEADERS who bat from the HEART!
    Rise up above them Dark evil doers, not within anger but with LOVE

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    Default Re: 'I don't trust politicians & corporations in this country' Russell Brand - BBC Newsnight 24 oct...

    Quote Posted by Midnight Rambler (here)
    Quote I would love to see Hendrick or David Icke on
    News night, RT would have them on and not ridicule them as the BBC would.
    The fact that Russel gets a stage to spread his/this message makes my spidey senses tingle. Maybe I am paranoid, but something is not right with Mr. Brand IMHO.

    It is very easy for a Hollywood A-star to get blacklisted when they vent the wrong kind of opinion. I wonder if Russel has that problem at all, I suspect not.
    this is exactly what you should be looking for... anyone given time is there FOR A REASON.

    if he was truly what he seems to be he would never get camera time, that is the best tool of the media, simple censorship.

    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    I really don't understand the blatant fear of Russell Brand in some. The things that frighten people these days is actually hilarious ... The super rich and powerful elite are using Russell brand to promote equality among everyone and a more productive redistribution of wealth, because they feel they have too much money and power??? I don't understand this chain of logic and not one person who claims he is a shill, tries to explain this logic. Comments like "I don't like this one phrase he said once so he is evil!" is utterly ridiculous. I was drawn to this book once then I saw the cover and concluded that it sucked.
    The careful guiding of a movement, the "pressure release"; his end goals are very NWO he just approaches it from a very attractive slant.

    Nothing to fear here, just observe and question.
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