'I don't trust politicians & corporations in this country' Russell Brand - BBC Newsnight 24 oct...

[Cidersomerset]

This is a lively debate where Russell tries to discuss his book with Jeremy Paxmans ,
successor, former economist Evan Davis, who defends the establishment views
and tries to trick Russell into saying he supports 9/11 conspiracy theorists.
Russell realises Evan is being patronising and trying to put words in his mouth.
Awkward listen at times and Russell will have to be careful as the establishment
guard dogs in the mainstream media will try to trip him up.


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'I don't trust politicians & corporations in this country' Russell Brand - Newsnight

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VqsFp0J22Hc

Published on 23 Oct 2014


Russell Brand has spoken to Newsnight about his "alternative to corporate hegemony".
Presenter Evan Davis quizzed the comic about his ownership proposals for General
Motors but was told it was a "silly administrative quibble".

Follow @BBCNewsnight on Twitter
https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight

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UK cops kick 'Occupy' protesters off Parliament Sq, Russell Brand delivers pizza

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QEV07vjAw_4

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A more amusing interview on his book promotion tour , Russell is a satirical comic,
and activist not a politician........

Russell Brand on David Letterman - October 13th 2014 - Full Interview

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_9h7clmd6Vc

Published on 13 Oct 2014

[ghostrider]

I don't trust politicians in ANY country ... corporations I tolerate because they for now are a necessary tool ... with them , the only difference between this company and that one is the sign out front ...

[dim]

sure, but they didn't fall on earth from mars
all those are people like us, from us, same as us
it IS us when we get power in our hands, it shows our corruptibility no matter how awake and aware we believe ourselves to be
and this is the reason freedom movements fail cause we carry the same power and control virus in us
but it becomes apparent only when we get in power

there is a greedy corporation inside every each one of us

[Cidersomerset]

West Ham 2-1 Man City - Sam Allardyce Post Match Interview Interrupted By Russell Brand 25.10.2014

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ImgSenz2iI4

[Cidersomerset]

As I thought 'Hit Piece ' from the Express....




Russell Brand sparks fury as he says he's 'open-minded' over blaming 9/11 on US government

COMEDIAN Russell Brand provoked fury today after saying he was "open-minded"
about the idea that the US government was behind the 9/11 attacks.

By: Lianne Kolirin
Published: Fri, October 24, 2014



http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/527...rsial-comments

[Cidersomerset]

Trewsnight – What’s The Agenda? Russell Brand The Trews Comments

Sunday 26th October 2014 at 04:36 By david-icke

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VvFAkKPi2UE

Published on 24 Oct 2014


Russell Brand The Trews Comments Edition (E175).
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[Midnight Rambler]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
Trewsnight – What’s The Agenda? Russell Brand The Trews Comments

'I don't trust Russell Brand' - Midnight Rambler Project Avalon 26 oct...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=COMj3Nw2c3M

Youtube description

Gepubliceerd op 28 okt. 2013
In a recent diatribe on BBC, Hollywood actor Russell Brand with Jeremy Paxman spoke candidly about his desire to create a "Socialist egalitarian system based on the massive redistribution of wealth and heavy taxation of corporations." In this commentary we question Brand's so called "good intentions" and how qualified he really is to talk about these topics as a multi-millionaire. More importantly, we discuss his connection to the Fabian Socialist magazine the "New Statesman," of which he was co-editing for a week before his senseless speech and call for a revolution on TV.

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Socialism is enslavement and the road to mediocrity IMHO.

[Oouthere]

Posted by dim (here)
sure, but they didn't fall on earth from mars
all those are people like us, from us, same as us
it IS us when we get power in our hands, it shows our corruptibility no matter how awake and aware we believe ourselves to be
and this is the reason freedom movements fail cause we carry the same power and control virus in us
but it becomes apparent only when we get in power

there is a greedy corporation inside every each one of us

I think you are right on the money. The only thing I see a little different is knowing a person's mind can be rewritten/remapped if the need by "them" is high enough. Having been through this procedure I know it happens.

[Cidersomerset]

Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
Trewsnight – What’s The Agenda? Russell Brand The Trews Comments
'I don't trust Russell Brand' - Midnight Rambler Project Avalon 26 oct...

I saw that and he is missing the point we have had socialist governments in
the UK on 3 or 4 occasions 1940's thru 1970's.Since then we have had more right
wing governments from both 'New' Labour , Conservatives and Lib/Lab and Con/Dem.

Russell is just hightling unfair society he is not going to lead a revolution
and he knows that. He came from a poor background and is trying to help
in his own way. This is below Red Ice to attack Russell so much. They
can disagree with him, Russell admits he does not have the answers and
he is not calling for a violent revolution. Anyone can take Russell to
task , but his heart is in right place and he does give much away to
good causes. He could just stay in Hollywood and do nothing.


I think Henrik Palmgren should have Russell on his show and ask him
his motives and what he is trying to say.

[Midnight Rambler]

I saw that and he is missing the point we have had socialist governments in
the UK on 3 or 4 occasions 1940's thru 1970's.Since then we have had more right
wing governments from both 'New' Labour , Conservatives and Lib/Lab and Con/Dem.

Labour government or Conservative government: same difference in my opinion. The differences in actual policies are hard to distinguish. Campaign promises are more distinguishable but at the end of the day most of these promises are lies anyway.

I just don't buy the messianic savior act.

I agree that Hendrik should have him on the show, should be a good discussion between two opposite political viewpoints. Maybe Hendrik could convince Russel that the solution does not lie with a bigger government and more rules (and taxes) but that the solution may lie in a free market and less rules for (small) business. People should be able to take care of themselves, so they do not need a government/nanny state.

Look for instance at some of the links in youtube description. You can get a good impression what is happening in Sweden. There it does not make a difference if you work hard or sit on your ass all day long. I pass for that kind of revolution and Russel Brand is the poster boy for this IMHO.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Midnight Rambler (here)
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Socialism is enslavement and the road to mediocrity IMHO.

Yet we stand by and watch daily a world being enslaved via democracy and capitalism. There is a plan in place, and that is to show the utter failings of democracy and capitalism (problem), where people demand a solution, and it will be presented as a one world communist government.

Is Russell brand a part of that process? It is not entirely impossible ... but during this "planned process" there is also an opportunity, for during the "revolution", change will be fast and the outcome unpredictable. What we all know and feel right now is that current systems are going in a very, bad direction if we do not implement direction change soon. This is obvious, even if it is "the plan".

[Snowflower]

Posted by dim (here)

there is a greedy corporation inside every each one of us

No, there isn't. Perhaps there is one inside every psychopath, but not inside each one of us.

[avid]

the "Che Guevara" background graphics on that interview... pathetic!
Now look at all this negativity on Brand:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Ch...bv=2&oq=&gs_l=
Totally media controlled.

I found his 'interview' was actually allowing him to make a stance for those who really want to say to those in power "STOP" and listen to the real people.

Despite all the bankstering/globalistic profiteering el-greedo stuff which is proliferate between-the-lines in all global news now, grabbing any global resources wherever possible to the detriment of those who have existed there for years, and some are now being deliberately poisoned by Ebola (via 'health-care' without frontiers - ahem), or whatever suits the giant vile and corrupt organisations, are we are expected to digest and accept the pathetic excuses for this profligation of lies via anyone's TV/media hype? Day after day - without question? I thank the Russell Brands et al of this world, and anyone who can bring justice to the disenfranchised, globally.

[Cidersomerset]

I agree that Hendrik should have him on the show, should be a good discussion between two opposite political viewpoints.
Maybe Hendrik could convince Russel that the solution does not lie with a bigger government and more rules (and taxes) but that
the solution may lie in a free market and less rules for (small) business. People should be able to take care of themselves, so they do not need a government/nanny state.

At first glance Hendrick is right and his co presenter was a little over enthusiastic
with slagging off Russell.Socialism , Communism ,Capitolism infact all the 'ism's'
can be abused and undermined by corrupt officials, as we have seen in the past
and is going on today. Russell does not advocate any of them,he would like local
issues given more priority , with more grass roots participation. He has gone on
mainstream and tried to articulate some of his views and of course he is shot down
because mainstream economists still live in the corporate world . When pressed on
the Paxman interview which Hendrick was reviewing Russell did say a socialist state
and tax the corporates and when pushed said it needs financial experts to set it up,
which is a oxymoron in itself. Russell did not mean that and as he says himself he
is no expert on these matters. He knows like all of us things are not fair with most
of the worlds wealth in the hands of a tiny percent of rich people and corporations.

Now we all know that in the alternate community,and I'm not against millionaires
per say and people should be rewarded for effort and innovation and work creation
and most of the social cares in a community like , health , schooling housing ,
roads, water, energy and all the other amenities that make up villages,town and
cities with care over the countryside and environment. But that does not mean
multi millionaire , I don't know a figure off the top of my head but a £1 million
seems more than ample for most innovative leaders of industry or other professions.

The trouble is that they are now in the hands of ever smaller groups who wield
power.The mil ind complex, Big Pharma , Monsanto and other interests are
squeezing the average citizen to become another service of 'Surfice ' class . The EU
has become unwieldy and there is a backlash in many countries with 'nationalist'
parties gaining ground on the usual fears all electorates respond to.

Many people do not engage in our current political system and what Russell is
trying to represent is the many especially from poorer backgrounds who have
been left behind by mainstream politics because the establishment does not
need them, who ever is in power the basic agenda is the same , keep as much
of the wealth , power and influence in the hands of the 5%'s . Which is what
we are discussing on forums like this everyday, unfortunenatly we are th
minority, which is why people like Russell who can get on mainstream have
to take their chance . I would love to see Hendrick or David Icke on
News night, RT would have them on and not ridicule them as the BBC would.

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Some stories from David Ickes Headline page and similar articles would
apply to all countries in the world in different forms....

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/


Voter fraud warning over general election

Sunday 26th October 2014 at 04:33 By david-icke




Voter fraud warning over general election



‘A study today says polling is ‘dangerously inefficient and seriously open to fraud’.

The findings were detailed in a report from Policy Exchange, a Westminster-based think-tank.

It called for an overhaul of the Electoral Commission and a new system of £80 fines for failing to register to vote.’

Read more: Voter fraud warning over general election

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...neral-election

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Millions face years on the breadline: Britain has more long-term low-paid workers than ever

Sunday 26th October 2014 at 05:30 By david-icke


Millions face years on the breadline: Britain has more long-term low-paid workers than ever








‘A generation of Britons is destined to spend years languishing in low-paid jobs barely
above the minimum wage, with the number in poorly paid work at a historic high, a
major report will reveal this week.

More than five million workers are in low-paid work, with the proportion of people on
low salaries rising from 21 to 22 per cent last year, according to the new research by
the Resolution Foundation think-tank. It badly dents hopes of an economic recovery
driven by consumer spending: millions are in jobs so poorly paid that they have little
if anything left to spend after their basic needs have been met.’

Read more: Millions face years on the breadline: Britain has more long-term low-paid workers than ever

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...r-9818694.html
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90 percent of Americans are poorer today than in 1987

Saturday 25th October 2014 at 05:15 By david-icke




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‘The American Dream is slipping further away from the vast majority of Americans than
it has in a quarter century. Now 90 percent of US households are poorer than they were
in 1987, according to both a new study and the head of the Federal Reserve.’

Read more: 90 percent of Americans are poorer today than in 1987


http://rt.com/usa/199072-quarter-cen...erican-wealth/

[Deega]

Posted by dim (here)
sure, but they didn't fall on earth from mars
all those are people like us, from us, same as us
it IS us when we get power in our hands, it shows our corruptibility no matter how awake and aware we believe ourselves to be
and this is the reason freedom movements fail cause we carry the same power and control virus in us
but it becomes apparent only when we get in power

there is a greedy corporation inside every each one of us

Thanks Dim, you sure did hit the hammer head on the nail, I have a similar view on human being in power!

[Midnight Rambler]

I would love to see Hendrick or David Icke on
News night, RT would have them on and not ridicule them as the BBC would.

The fact that Russel gets a stage to spread his/this message makes my spidey senses tingle. Maybe I am paranoid, but something is not right with Mr. Brand IMHO.

It is very easy for a Hollywood A-star to get blacklisted when they vent the wrong kind of opinion. I wonder if Russel has that problem at all, I suspect not.

[avid]

He is controversial, topical, and in-demand. Of course £ is involved, but media popularity is worth £'s, and so what if his views are against the investors - it's all to do with profit! Whoever is 'funding' Russell Brand, is getting lots of back-handers in profit. They don't give a hoot what he says, it's in 'their' interests to keep him 'profitable'. As soon as interest dwindles, he's down the drain on publicity.
I enjoy his media visibility, and also his forthright truthful message to all - WAKE UP!!!

[Cidersomerset]

Quote I would love to see Hendrick or David Icke on
News night, RT would have them on and not ridicule them as the BBC would.
The fact that Russel gets a stage to spread his/this message makes my spidey senses tingle. Maybe I am paranoid, but something is not right with Mr. Brand IMHO.

It is very easy for a Hollywood A-star to get blacklisted when they vent the wrong kind of opinion. I wonder if Russel has that problem at all, I suspect not.

He is a novelty a idiot in the view of the mainstream, and many in the alternate
community, his comedy annoys me ..LOL . I think Russell is genuine, I have put
up other threads where he spoke in front of a House of Commons committee
about Drug and alcohol addiction. He has clashed with Peter Hitchins and other
media heavyweights. He was on the Howard Stern show promoting his book
last week , which is to X rated to post here , but some of it was interesting,
he said when he was married to Katy Perry they went to Japan for a tour date for
Katy, and they would not let him in for his drug convictions over a decade before,
and because of his addictive personality he is like a over active puppy , note he is
constantly sipping water from a bottle on many of his interviews.

I don't think Russell is the messiah or Savior , but he is trying to help....



Russell has done great work highlighting drugs awareness and
spoke in front of a select House of commons committee, which
was good. He is a comedian like Bill Hicks or George Carlin,
not quite in their league yet imo but he is still young.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=O_LHuII-jYQ

Russell Brand - 2012-04-24 - Committee on Addiction (complete)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=O_LHuII-jYQ




I'm looking for the drug thread heres a few others....


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Revolution---

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...e-Palestinians

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-BBC-Newsnight....

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...global-outrage

[Cidersomerset]

Giovanni put up a thread about Red Ice last year...


Question Red Ice Radio ~ Russell Brand's Fantasy of a Socialist Egalitarian Utopia

A Special Commentary For Your Inspection Folks ...

Published on Oct 28, 2013

"In a recent diatribe on BBC, Hollywood actor Russell Brand with Jeremy Paxman spoke
candidly about his desire to create a "Socialist egalitarian system based on the massive
redistribution of wealth and heavy taxation of corporations." In this commentary we question
Brand's so called "good intentions" and how qualified he really is to talk about these topics as
a multi-millionaire. More importantly, we discuss his connection to the Fabian Socialist magazine
the "New Statesman," of which he was co-editing for a week before his senseless speech and call
for a revolution on TV."

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...itarian-Utopia

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A couple posts from that thread...

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post750529


Thanks Giovanni, Russell is a 'addict' like many people, he throws himself into
what he does. Watch him drinking his bottle of water or cup of tea on most of
the interviews he does. He is not a leader more of a mouthpiece , a student
who is having an impact on a generation tired of being trodden on.

He has been in the gutter and is probably only a relapse away from going
back, despite his wealth, which are the trappings of the his success. His
motivation is genuine and he is first to say he is not a 'messiah' even
though one of his tours was called the 'messiah' complex and his new
tour 'Revolution' has probably not done to bad out of this publicity.

None of the current political systems are perfect by any means , and
incentive to work and create wealth is not bad in itself as Russell has
said in other interviews. Its the redistribution that has failed, Why can't
the 1 % be happy with a million pounds or even say up to 10 million a year.

Success has been measured in £ & $ not happiness and the greater good
of society. All systems breed elites, the CIA had a policy for the corporate
take over third world countries by creating a small mega rich elite that
oppressed their own populations to open up markets and exploit raw materials.

What is not discussed in the mainstream is the real people/entities
manipulating events behind the scenes as most revolutions in the past
have been backed by some external financial power. I posted a good
article yesterday about how the CIA manipulated foreign affairs, and
other countries have done so before and will do so.


A Timeline of CIA Astrocities.....Cira 1941....1993
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...359#post750359


You can go in many different directions with this, and it may not be
possible to create a free and caring society for all in our current
human mind set and it is why we are looking for new ideas. Look
at Russell as a person just throwing out ideas for discussion and
it has worked in stirring up a few people , but in it selfe he won't
change the status Quo , he is to easily ridiculed but lets see where
it goes and he certainly has done no harm imo.



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https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post750661

Russell has done great work highlighting drugs awareness and
spoke in front of a select House of commons committee, which
was good. He is a comedian like Bill Hicks or George Carlin,
not quite in their league yet imo but he is still young.


Russell Brand - 2012-04-24 - Committee on Addiction (complete)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=O_LHuII-jYQ
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This fuss reminds me of the famous clip from the life of Brian..

He's Not The Messiah ......" Brian leave that welsh tart alone".....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Zjz16xjeBAA

An excellent recent interview that gives you a good insight into
Russells current views is his conversation with Alex Jones...

Russell Brand Blasts MSM Lies in Mindblowing Interview......

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vkWWaOp7Zb0

After the interview he had Alex under his spell for a bit
which is funny to see.

Infact I have watched this interview four times in the
last couple days as I posted it on the original thread.
Alex asks many of the questions brought up over
the last few days and Russell aquits himself well imo.

[Cidersomerset]

This is quite interesting Peter Hitchins and Russell Brand clashing over drug policy......

Peter Hitchens vs. Russell Brand

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YbVNZUHeg6o

Russell Brand Peter Hitchens Newsnight 2012

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SsMU77TwYM0

Published on 10 Aug 2012

Russell Brand and Peter Hitchens debate the treatment of drug addicts on Newsnight August 2012