Substantial debunking articles on Gordon Duff and Veterans Today

[ThePythonicCow]

I'm not sure what to make of the following three articles yet, in part because I have not read this blogger before.

However these three articles purport to uncover a number of discrepancies and overblown claims in the reporting of Gordon Duff and of his Veterans Today website.

• Shady as Hell: The Veterans Today / RT / PressTV Disinformation Conglomerate (Part 1 – The Amazing Gordon Duff)
• The Veterans Today / RT / PressTV Disinformation Conglomerate (Part 2 – Deconstructing the Bizarre Tale of Leo Wanta)
• The Veterans Today / RT / PressTV Disinformation Conglomerate (Part 3 – Gordon Duff’s “Adamus Group”)

I will confess to being prone to substantial skepticism, myself, regarding the story of Leo Wanta, so I share the skepticism evident in the second article above.

My initial skimming of the other two articles led me to think that these articles might be reasonably accurate in their reporting, though I have not verified anything independently myself.

[ThePythonicCow]

The first of the above three links has a link to another "debunking" article on Gordon Duff - that link is Veterans Today’s Gordon Duff and his elite bio (Exposing Faux Capitalism). That article also appears to me, on the surface, to be in touch with reality.

[Xanth]

Ok some unknown blogger with an email address of "crikeymail-blog@yahoo.com" and next to no links on google posts some stuff ... and I need to read it because?

[Zionbrion]

I think this guy is onto something...

[spiritguide]

When and if the debunking points are posted and debated then this post might be worth spending time on. There is enough negative stuff floating on the internet distracting from the truth. Might check in later for facts.

Peace!

[Zionbrion]

This is another interesting take on disclosure written by this man. http://redefininggod.com/category/extraterrestrials/

[Zionbrion]

Posted by spiritguide (here)
When and if the debunking points are posted and debated then this post might be worth spending time on. There is enough negative stuff floating on the internet distracting from the truth. Might check in later for facts.

Peace!

I do not view it as negative, it is another seeker seeking deep for the truth. Of course there is all kinds of information distracting from the truth, and in part thats what this blogger is trying to point out. Gordon Duff admits himself that 40% of what he writes on VT is purpousfully false, other wise he wouldn't be alive, is his reasoning. I wish I had a computer Id bullet list the facts, but I just have a tablet and its hard to create such things.

[naste.de.lumina]

These posts about gordon duff immediately reminded me this recent episode:

VT issues first Ebola warning (VeteransToday.com website is now down)

The narrative 'leo wanta' is really very strange.

The blogger Ken makes some strong arguments in their related articles above.

I'll take a good look at his stuff because there seems to be some other interesting articles.

[sandy]

Thanks Paul,

Just spend some time having a look at all the links and let me say............I often think that this whole alternatives theme could all be just another turn in the social programming of the masses, along with all the other antics we are and have been programmed by thoughout the milennia.

I'm big believer in personal reponsibility in all realms of my Being and thus find none of the projected propaganda acceptable in the management of Mother Earth, and all her creatures. She will prevail, with us or without us and my guess is it will be without us and our games of power and control in the long run>>>

[Innocent Warrior]

Thanks for sharing, Paul, I read VT. I agree with RedefiningGod, it's shady. Disappointing.

[TargeT]

Posted by Paul (here)
I'm not sure what to make of the following three articles yet, in part because I have not read this blogger before.

However these three articles purport to uncover a number of discrepancies and overblown claims in the reporting of Gordon Duff and of his Veterans Today website.

• Shady as Hell: The Veterans Today / RT / PressTV Disinformation Conglomerate (Part 1 – The Amazing Gordon Duff)
• The Veterans Today / RT / PressTV Disinformation Conglomerate (Part 2 – Deconstructing the Bizarre Tale of Leo Wanta)
• The Veterans Today / RT / PressTV Disinformation Conglomerate (Part 3 – Gordon Duff’s “Adamus Group”)

I will confess to being prone to substantial skepticism, myself, regarding the story of Leo Wanta, so I share the skepticism evident in the second article above.

My initial skimming of the other two articles led me to think that these articles might be reasonably accurate in their reporting, though I have not verified anything independently myself.

I don't even have to read them to intuitively agree with them, Duff reeks of either controlled opposition or something "else" off... his stories are at times very fantastical and he blindly supports the figure head Obama.

It just doesn't "read true" to me, or not "true enough" anyway.

I categorize him in the same camp as Prison Planet / InfoWars.... with out a "release valve" the population might truly be dangerous...

Posted by Zionbrion (here)
Gordon Duff admits himself that 40% of what he writes on VT is purpousfully false, other wise he wouldn't be alive, is his reasoning.

to me this always seemed like the WORST of cop-outs. Pathetic, Dangerous and basically the exact definition of "disinfo agent".

I would never do this, I DO NOT do this and never would I stoop so low.

[Kryztian]

Kerry Cassidy has said of Duff on the Mike Harris show that he is CIA which wouldn't surprise me. His resume is exactly what a NSA/CIA employee would look for in an asset.

One of the stories that Duff broke two years ago was that there was a major international military operation at an undersea Reptillian base in the Pacific, hundred of miles west of San Francisco. After about three months, that story vanished - hard to believe that if there was any truth in such a story that we would not have lingering reports in the conspiracy community two years later. Ever since that time, I have taken everything Uncle Gordy says with a big grain of salt.

UFO War: Chinese and US Navy off San Francisco
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/17/ufo-war-chinese-and-us-navy-off-san-francisco/

Kerry Cassidy also says of many of her interviewees, that many of them do not always tell the truth. What they say is a mixture of the two, and we have to use our discerning minds to figure out what is really happening. In that spirit, I still do listen to Duff now and then. Exactly who's agenda he is carrying out, I don't know, but you are either learning about the truth, or you are learning about what the people that lie want you to think.

One thing I will say in Uncle Gordy's favor: he is a fast talker and quick witted. People like that, if they are intentionally lying, do tend to contradict themselves as they weave their web of deceit. I have yet to catch him doing that - if he is intentionally lying, he keeps that to a few basic untruths.

[David Ansible]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Paul (here)
I'm not sure what to make of the following three articles yet, in part because I have not read this blogger before.

However these three articles purport to uncover a number of discrepancies and overblown claims in the reporting of Gordon Duff and of his Veterans Today website.

• Shady as Hell: The Veterans Today / RT / PressTV Disinformation Conglomerate (Part 1 – The Amazing Gordon Duff)
• The Veterans Today / RT / PressTV Disinformation Conglomerate (Part 2 – Deconstructing the Bizarre Tale of Leo Wanta)
• The Veterans Today / RT / PressTV Disinformation Conglomerate (Part 3 – Gordon Duff’s “Adamus Group”)

I will confess to being prone to substantial skepticism, myself, regarding the story of Leo Wanta, so I share the skepticism evident in the second article above.

My initial skimming of the other two articles led me to think that these articles might be reasonably accurate in their reporting, though I have not verified anything independently myself.

I don't even have to read them to intuitively agree with them, Duff reeks of either controlled opposition or something "else" off... his stories are at times very fantastical and he blindly supports the figure head Obama.

It just doesn't "read true" to me, or not "true enough" anyway.

I categorize him in the same camp as Prison Planet / InfoWars.... with out a "release valve" the population might truly be dangerous...

Posted by Zionbrion (here)
Gordon Duff admits himself that 40% of what he writes on VT is purpousfully false, other wise he wouldn't be alive, is his reasoning.

to me this always seemed like the WORST of cop-outs. Pathetic, Dangerous and basically the exact definition of "disinfo agent".

I would never do this, I DO NOT do this and never would I stoop so low.

Yeah, without VT the population might truly be dangerous. Are you kidding?
You would never "do this" or "stoop so low." Since when have you had the kind of information that could get you killed? How the hell do you know what you'd do?

[David Ansible]

man, I just looked at one of the articles - the one talking about Duff being a 100% disabled vet.
Total hit piece, absolutely ridiculous. Oh, he modified his bio a few times. Big deal. And you do not have to be incapable of work to be a 100% disabled vet. The guy who wrote this is a joke.

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Posted by Kryztian (here)
Kerry Cassidy has said of Duff on the Mike Harris show that he is CIA which wouldn't surprise me. His resume is exactly what a NSA/CIA employee would look for in an asset.

One of the stories that Duff broke two years ago was that there was a major international military operation at an undersea Reptillian base in the Pacific, hundred of miles west of San Francisco. After about three months, that story vanished - hard to believe that if there was any truth in such a story that we would not have lingering reports in the conspiracy community two years later. Ever since that time, I have taken everything Uncle Gordy says with a big grain of salt.

UFO War: Chinese and US Navy off San Francisco
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/17/ufo-war-chinese-and-us-navy-off-san-francisco/

Kerry Cassidy also says of many of her interviewees, that many of them do not always tell the truth. What they say is a mixture of the two, and we have to use our discerning minds to figure out what is really happening. In that spirit, I still do listen to Duff now and then. Exactly who's agenda he is carrying out, I don't know, but you are either learning about the truth, or you are learning about what the people that lie want you to think.

One thing I will say in Uncle Gordy's favor: he is a fast talker and quick witted. People like that, if they are intentionally lying, do tend to contradict themselves as they weave their web of deceit. I have yet to catch him doing that - if he is intentionally lying, he keeps that to a few basic untruths.

Of course Duff is/was CIA. He has admitted as much himself.

[jerry]

Same can be said of any alternative media out there , and ALL MSM ,we just have to separate the wheat from the chaff

[Griff]

I am a fairly regular reader of VT, often for the entertainment value more than anything. Part of the entertainment factor is trying to discern the truth from the mis- or dis-info. I think of it as like reading a Hunter S. Thompson novel. There are some brilliant grains of truth in there, along with some steaming piles of B.S., and it is often not clear which is which. The challenge of finding that out may be why I enjoy reading them both.
VT does breach many topics you won't find written about in many other places, but I would never consider them as a primary source. If I do find something there that piques my interest, I will try to confirm (at least in part) what I read there with other sources, if possible. A lot of what is written there are also opinion pieces, and while they may be based at least in part on factual information, the conclusions drawn are often a bit of a stretch. There is also more than a little bit of self promotion going on there, but when someone has a platform to freely say whatever the hell they want, that is more often the case than not.

As always, read what you want, take it all with a liberal amount of (sea) salt, and make up your own mind.

Griff

[mountain_jim]

I can appreciate the Hunter S. Thompson reference concerning Truth mixed in with creatively rendered other-stuff. Another example in my view was Robert Anton Wilson's (with Robert Shea) Illuminatus Trilogy, details of which I thought were made up the first time I read it and later discovered were weird but had a factual basis. Trying to figure out the fact from fiction stimulated my consciousness in interesting expansive ways.

[DeDukshyn]

Gordan Duff to me was always more of "consider this" as opposed to "Here it is!" type of info anyway .. so nothing changes for me with this ...

[KaiLee]

I thought everyone knew VT was a disinformation racket. Always wondered why ppl here took VT articles so seriously. Like any good propaganda, sprinkle truth with lies and let them eat cake.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Thanks for posting this. I'll look over it in more detail later but it doesn't surprise me.