Sleep paralysis suffocation

[BF88]

A little trick I learned to wake myself up from sleep paralysis or whatever it actually was that was happening to me is to try and physically contract all the muscles in your body but concentrating on your abdominal muscles (helps if you strengthen them too) as hard and fast as you can. I'm not sure if it works by actually doing the contraction of the muscles physically or it is just the signal from your brain to perform the action that does it.

Is there a being trying to hurt you in these in between states of consciousness? It was the shadow thing for me. What worked for me was to attack it (out of body) as soon as i felt its presence. Try your best to punch and kick it and really mean it. I heard somewhere that trying to throw the being works too but haven't tried it as they leave me alone now, in that particular in between state anyway, it is a shame that the same cannot be said for all 'non awake' states of consciousness. I hope you figure this out, these situations are absolutely terrifying but I am of the opinion that you can definitely beat it.

[Becky]

Posted by AmberButtermilk (here)

I have had this, and exactly as you describe there is a very strong pull into a deep coma-like sleep which is unavoidable. Then I wake up some time later, always having had no dream recollection at all between the 'scary incident' and awakening normally. I often hear noises in my room and feel creatures which 'appear' which give the impression as pets, either a dog or cat jumping on me on my bed, which I don't have irl, as I'm aware of the paralysis and something around my head end, then I fall into a deep sleep which i try to fight and always lose

My regular paralysis would include hallucinations like this (especially my at-the-time recently deceased cat jumping onto my bed), where I would wake up later and not remember what happened in between. Except one time I truly was wide awake and mobile, and still felt/heard this happen with my cat, so I didn't know what to think about the paralysis episodes with her. With the suffocation paralysis, I don't fall back asleep. I want to SO bad, but it just makes me breathe even less when I try to stop fighting so much. I have to use ALL my strength and energy to stay awake by "wiggling" my inner self until my physical body begins to repeat the same action I'm thinking about.

I wonder why phantom pets, jumping on the bed or on the person, are experienced? That's funny / odd.

[sandpainter]

Thanks conk~ for sharing your helpful experience, strength and hope regarding this serious psychological & spiritual issue. Sleep paralysis is a real, psychological ordeal experienced across many cultures. In China it is sometimes referred to as "ghost oppression" and in western cultures as "The old hag syndrome."

[hettleman]

Yes, I have experienced this twice. (Suffocation during sleep paralysis.) It is REAL and not sleep apnea! The first time I was in my 20's and I was sure I was seconds away from death. All I could think was, I am going to die, these dark entities are smothering me and no one will ever know what really happened. Then out of the blue, my husband who was in a sound sleep, threw his body over mine and started reciting the Lord's Prayer. I gasped for breath and was fine. I truly believe he saved my life. When I asked him why he did that and how did he know he replied, "I didn't know. It was not a conscious act." He then told me that every night before he goes to sleep he prays and asks for protection for our family.

The second time was a few months ago. I knew what was happening because of this time before and I immediately cast out any unclean spirits in Jesus name. It worked! So twice in 30 years, not sleep apnea or brain disconnect. It was an attack by some dark force...IMO!

[Jake]

Google Dweller on the threshold... An age old phenomenon wnere one would wake intk paralysis with intense pressure on the chest accompanying great fear and the manifestation of an entity.. Usually some type of gargoyle or witch..

Theses days we study the same sort of autoscipic phenomenon when we look into different types of threshold consciousness...

A battle with the dweller is many times,, ones first test into a whole other world of existence, ,, witb regards moving beyond the physical body,, and into a different mode of being...

Slowed breathing can be startling to wake up into,, especially if you cannot move, and theree is pressure at your heart center...

I battled the dweller for many years... I dont know where it scurries off to when I stand in my power and refuse to be subject to this type of abuse.... Tackling you fear is the trick... Standing in great power... If you believe deeply in a deity thag saves you,,, you can invoke his/her name.. (never once, worked fir me,,) Being saved by an entity sorta makes one reliant on that entity for any type of growth... And that is NOT necessary... You are in control of the experience... Nobody else.... You wont make it to far in tha astral worlds if you dont master your own fears... This is all about to dawn on the whole planet...

If you live in fear,, you will experience demons... If you live in power, you will experience the whole universe... Anyone waking into paralysis fear, rapid heart rate, stymied breathing,, energetic sensations,, etc,,,, should begin to look much deeper into their experiences because we are the fore runners to a much bigger scenario that is unfolding...

One day,, we will all wake up from this dream and appreciate tbat we did not cower in fear...

Jake

[Lysaur]

Amber --

What kind of hallucinations do you see during the episodes? You could just be having a 'mind-awake / body-asleep' episode, where your physical body is calmed, and your subtle (psychic) body is activated, so you see psychic stuff.

I'm surprised no one has brought up the point that your paralysis episodes increased since you started researching on aliens. Aliens don't like people knowing about them, they want people in the dark, so people starting to learn more might be visited more, and the paralysis could be related to visitations. Possibly to study you or tinker with your mind to deter you from waking up spiritually. Aliens can see into the future and they know who the trouble makers will be in the future. Might not be aliens though sometimes...

I know some of these feelings can be fun though! Like when you're trying to move your body, but the damn carcass won't move. That's when your etheric and astral body is not completely coupled to the physical. I've had times where I've rolled around, or floated in and out of my body to the roof back and forth before I finally locked into my body. Certain people might be more naturally able to seperate from it like this, like abductees who are taken astrally, meaning out of their body. Or people who are not grounded psychologically and physically, like my friend in the past... he slipped out of body and a demon tried to take over his body (!) So going out of body is very dangerous and I don't recommend it at all. You can connect to your higher Spirit and develop higher awareness and psychic abilities best while staying in your body.

I've experienced this hunderds of times through out my life, and I think a lot of it is caused directly by demonic entities, as well as alien entities. Demons will hook into your etheric body, paralyze you, and infect your dreams with horror, or just scare you to death to feed on the fear. They often do this when we sleep, when we're vulnerable. Alien entities will paralyze you to do other procedures or affect your mind.

One time I had paralysis in bed, and I felt entities were around, but I couldn't roll over and punch them like I wanted to. Then I heard a woman's voice say "Wake Up" and the paralysis lifted and the entities vanished as I rolled over. I think that was my guide maybe, helping me out.

Many times I've wanted to scream, but could not because I was suffocating, physically. Other times, it felt like I had been thrown into bed after an abduction experience...maybe it is an effect of being pulled out of your body and put back into it, astrally, while your physical body is paralyzed? I don't know... But the worst is when you're lying there, staring at the wall, near suffocating and can't move.

Actually, a tried and true recommendation for ending sleep paralysis is, in the moment, to remember to feel a strong sense of *righteous anger*. This becomes a channel for divine warm energy to saturate you to repel demons, as well as provides a certain fluctuating intensity in your psychic field which aids in screwing up the psychic control an alien or demonic entity might have on you -- if that is the case.

It could also be done by black ops technology too, but that's a dark subject that might not even be your situation.

[DaRkViPeR]

I had the same thing happened to me last night. I was lying in bed and the next moment my whole body went unresponsive. I had difficulty breathing and thought it was a heart attack and that I am dying. It lasted for about 30 seconds. I had sleep paralysis many times in my life, but never before experienced suffocation while it happened. I must add that all through my life strange things happened to me and lately it is happening more frequently.

[AmberButtermilk]

Posted by Lysaur (here)
What kind of hallucinations do you see during the episodes? You could just be having a 'mind-awake / body-asleep' episode, where your physical body is calmed, and your subtle (psychic) body is activated, so you see psychic stuff.

The first time it happened I was at a sleepover with a few friends. I saw one of them get up and walk to the kitchen, but she said she never got up during the night. The next time I can remember, I woke up in bed to the sound of whispers all around me, occasionally saying my name, but that was all I was able to understand. After those two times, it was usually my family scolding me, making me feel awkward about something I did, or just them yelling my name. But during all of these I was able to breathe. I only suffocate during the ones where I, like you said, am just staring at a wall.

Or people who are not grounded psychologically and physically, like my friend in the past... he slipped out of body and a demon tried to take over his body (!) So going out of body is very dangerous and I don't recommend it at all.

I'd like to hear more about this. I frequently read that many ungrounded people experience things like "demons" in the astral world, but that they generally end up being tests. Did he try to face the entity at all, or did he immediately wanted to return to his physical body out of fear? I'm not saying I don't believe in demons, but their possible existence still confuses me to some extent. Have you made any threads about the subject?

[AmberButtermilk]

Thanks for your replies everyone! I feel I should let you all know that after I posted this thread, the episodes stopped entirely. I've now been having dreams where I am taken to other worlds and see different species, except I am not able to remember them very well at all. I've been waking up with the feeling that I am not alone in my dreams, as if someone is guiding me to these places. I really need to be more active with dream journaling.

[Lysaur]

The first time it happened I was at a sleepover with a few friends. I saw one of them get up and walk to the kitchen, but she said she never got up during the night. The next time I can remember, I woke up in bed to the sound of whispers all around me, occasionally saying my name, but that was all I was able to understand. After those two times, it was usually my family scolding me, making me feel awkward about something I did, or just them yelling my name. But during all of these I was able to breathe. I only suffocate during the ones where I, like you said, am just staring at a wall.

They might be real and not hallucinations. I used to hear people scolding me like family when I was high on the marijuana at night, in my teens, that was a hallucination I think. I've also had external voices say things to me that were not hallucinations I believe. They were too specific, clear and random, often with other accompanying, phenomena. My one friend I mentioned who had a demon attach to him trying to take him over showed many signs. One of which, like your friends moving and not remembering it possibly, he woke me up at 3am. I was playing donkey kong of course (because what else is good at 3 am...) and just as I was about to hit the hay, he suddenly sits up. He had this mischievous smile. He kept bugging me to pop in this 80s VHS porn we found around the house. I said no and he insisted. It was weird. Next morning I kept asking him about it and he really didn't remember, and I'm pretty sure he would admit if he did remember. He did that a few times, forgetting things. Like when he saw a tall grey in my room, staring at me in bed. 2 weeks later he forgot about it, and I had to make him remember, even though the picture he drew of it was still inside the house...

I'd like to hear more about this. I frequently read that many ungrounded people experience things like "demons" in the astral world, but that they generally end up being tests. Did he try to face the entity at all, or did he immediately wanted to return to his physical body out of fear? I'm not saying I don't believe in demons, but their possible existence still confuses me to some extent. Have you made any threads about the subject?

Everything in life is a spiritual test in the biggest sense of life. But these tests use real beings, like real human beings, real physical, objective phenomena, and real objective astral beings and phenomena. Demons are not just internal projections, they are real astral beings. They're not all-powerful, but they do influence people to do the worst things that happen in the world. But only because people lack awareness of their manipulation on people, and don't prevent it. I'd recommend the book Close Encounters of The Possession Kind by William Baldwin you can find online, and Robert Bruce's Psychic Self Defence book, but most of the spiritual protection tips you can find online if you look. But I really learned a lot from a psychic who was trained by ETs who writes online by the name of Fore. You can search through his writings @ that link for terms like 'demon' 'phantom' 'spiritual/s' and 'entity / entities' . Fore is an awesome resource I think you'll like it

What happened with my buddy...

We slept in the same room in the basement. He woke me up and told me what happened. He said he was standing beside the couch out of body watching his physical body sleep. Then he felt a dark entity enter through his foot trying to take over his body. He looked really freaked out saying, he knew it was something very, very horrible happening, like a demon trying to steal his soul. He knew he had to get back into his body immediately. And he did. He got up, woke me up, and I said let's see the foot. We saw a cut on the bottom of his foot. It's telling because most demons that possess people are known as earthbound spirits that usually enter from the earth, through the feet of people. Maybe this is why grounding works so well to exorcise demonic energy form your body, just walking in grass or sand, immersing in water, and especially putting your feet into water with rock salt.

After that night, I told my other buddy that my friend changed overnight. He had a new creepy vibe, an underlying, subconscious negativity about him, that he seemed to be battling with internally. He also started hating me and acting crazy. Even turned really gay and kept asking us if we wanted to have sex with him even though he knew we were straight. It ended with him physically assaulting me for no reason. Demons are known to break up relationships, and we were the best of friends, even had a great band, and we broke up a week before a big show was planned with big business names to be there. Like paranormal evil forces jsut want to screw with people. Oh well

[Wind]

Posted by Lysaur (here)
Like paranormal evil forces jsut want to screw with people. Oh well

That's very interesting, I've had sleep paralysis experiences every now and then and never they are pleasurable, thankfully they don't happen often and they started after I became spiritually aware. Also I a few times I have certainly felt how a negative presence has tried to come to my body through my right hand (yes, through my hand) when I've been sleeping and I do suspect that they try to manipulate especially when we are asleep. I don't know why and how sometimes these visitations occur, maybe they have something to do with astrology or something like that. However, I certainly have felt how entities can affect people and their behaviour, probably mine too at times.

This brings forth the question, do we actually have a free will when beings can try to manipulate us? Sure if we are mentally strong we can deflect their actions, but that still doesn't change the fact that they can and do drive many weak-minded or should I say more "vulnerable" people to do rather horrendous acts, to insanity and even to suicide. I am somehow quite sure that if we were left truly alone this world could be a rather peaceful one without all of the conflicts and wars caused by our fueled egos and the collective "insanity".

I'm interested to hear what people think about this "rigged game" and intervention when it comes to our so called free will? Bear in mind that none of us will escape our actions, but how much those actions actually are our own? We have to be constantly vigilant and even then it can be difficult at times.

[Lysaur]

Wind,

I think exactly like you. We should be given a air chance to develop as a good society without demonic influences corrupting humans. Freewill is complicated here. It's not balc and white. We have freewill, but so do other beings, and we have protection as well as attacks from both good and bad sides from a higher density of existence.

You might like this article:

Why Negative Forces Seem to Respect Freewill


montalk.net » 9 March 03


There are many ways negative forces can influence targeted individuals. Two common methods are through reality manipulation and matrix agents. This article discusses the important roles freewill and awareness play in such cases, which may explain why negative forces often maneuver the way they do. Matrix Agents: Profiles and Analysis and True Reality Creation provide background material for this article.

http://montalk.net/matrix/66/why-neg...spect-freewill

[Wind]

Thanks Lysaur!

[spade]

Call upon Jesus, this thing will instantly go away.