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    Default Re: Quantum Physicist Warns CERN's LHC Could Destroy The Planet

    I am quite sure it wont destroy the planet. If it had that capability it would not be allowed. TPTB as well as ETs know all the facts about this science. ETs wont let our planet be destroyed. It is one area they can actually intervene in.

    IIRC Steven Hawking said it could potentially destroy the universe. lol. As if there weren't countless other races out there that have done the same things in the history of the universe.

    One thing I have learned is all universal mechanics are as perfect as they can be. Every single race figuring out this science would have destroyed their planet if it was capable of that... Too big of a flaw in the universe to exist IMO.

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    Default Re: Quantum Physicist Warns CERN's LHC Could Destroy The Planet

    That first link is dead cursichella1
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    Default Re: Quantum Physicist Warns CERN's LHC Could Destroy The Planet

    I agree with Omniverse, CERN's LHC won't destroy the planet.

    Bored Scientists Now Just Sticking Random Things Into Large Hadron Collider (the onion )

    More seriously: The Large Hadron Collider

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    Quote Posted by Star Tsar (here)
    That first link is dead cursichella1
    Click on this link: http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/201...tum-physicist/ and replace the stars (****) in the URL with the correct letters.

    Notice in the comments section of http://gizadeathstar.com/2015/02/cer...at-were-doing/:

    Quote Posted by MxFusion, February 28 at 11:00 am

    I just contacted Dr. Goswami via his website and he quickly sent me back an email stating it was a satire and that he has contacted the website in question and has received no replies.

    He asked for suggestions as to what to do next. I replied to contact Joseph and he would get a fair minded hearing here.

    So, Joseph, perhaps you will be receiving an email from Dr. Goswami. Keep an eye out. Maybe you could arrange an interview with him about CERN and such

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    Default Re: Quantum Physicist Warns CERN's LHC Could Destroy The Planet

    Hello Siblings,

    Since 2009 famous psychic Dr Douglas James Cotterel
    has been warning that Switzerland will be destroyed
    'in the twinkle of an eye'.... because of the Hadron
    Collider in Geneva. This is due to happen between
    2012 and 2020. See here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDvmV6KVybI

    If Switzerland vanishes, then presumably, a big
    hole will also be made in western France, southern
    Germany and northern Italy too. We're looking
    at somewhere between 10 and 100 million deaths
    (subject to the diameter of the blast zone).
    The worst accident in human history, ever.

    The more concerning part of this story is that this
    psychic is famous precisely because he has proven
    himself highly accurate in the past.

    be happy

    lucidity :-)
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    Default Re: Quantum Physicist Warns CERN's LHC Could Destroy The Planet

    Safety of high-energy particle collision experiments

    The safety of high energy particle collisions was a topic of widespread discussion and topical interest during the time when the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) and later the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) were being constructed and commissioned. Concerns arose that such high energy experiments had the potential to create harmful states of matter or even doomsday scenarios. Claims escalated as commissioning of the LHC drew closer, around 2008–2010. The claimed dangers included the production of stable micro black holes and the creation of hypothetical particles called strangelets, and these questions were explored in the media, on the Internet and at times through the courts.

    To address these concerns in the context of the LHC, CERN mandated a group of independent scientists to review these scenarios. In a report issued in 2003, they concluded that, like current particle experiments such as the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC), the LHC particle collisions pose no conceivable threat. A second review of the evidence commissioned by CERN was released in 2008. The report, prepared by a group of physicists affiliated to CERN but not involved in the LHC experiments, reaffirmed the safety of the LHC collisions in light of further research conducted since the 2003 assessment. It was reviewed and endorsed by a CERN committee of 20 external scientists and by the Executive Committee of the Division of Particles & Fields of the American Physical Society, and was later published in the peer-reviewed Journal of Physics G by the UK Institute of Physics, which also endorsed its conclusions.

    The report ruled out any doomsday scenario at the LHC, noting that the physical conditions and collision events which exist in the LHC, RHIC and other experiments occur naturally and routinely in the universe without hazardous consequences, including ultra-high-energy cosmic rays observed to impact Earth with energies far higher than those in any man-made collider.

    Source: wikipedia.org/Safety_of_high-energy_particle_collision_experiments

    See also: Has-the-LHC-destroyed-the-earth.com

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    Default Re: Quantum Physicist Warns CERN's LHC Could Destroy The Planet

    Hi buares,

    Nice to see you keeping up the establishment end.... again ;-)

    The problem with 'independent reports' is that they are aimed at allaying
    fears not with publishing knowledge of 'real' risks.

    In the UK, France, USA (and probably most other countries with nuclear power plants)
    the building project was 'accompanied by' (usually not preceded by) some
    panel of 'so called' independent experts who's _explicit_ job it was to weigh up
    the potential risks and report on measures aimed at their elimination or
    reduction.

    This always happens, it's part of the pantomime, the aim to address
    concerns not reveal the truth or report on real risks.

    There was probably such a report years before the Fukushima disaster.
    "yes, yes, it's perfectly safe, there's nothing to worry about"
    kind of thing.

    There was several such reports in the UK concerning the Windscale
    nuclear power plant.. which had so many incidents and leaks that they
    even resorted to renaming it 'Sellafield' because the name Windscale
    was so badly tarnished by an appalling history safety issues.
    It was basically the same lie:
    "yes, yes, it's perfectly safe, there's nothing to worry about"
    And yet, the Irish Sea (Windscale sits on the coast) was the most radioactive
    sea in the world... that is, until the Fukushima disaster.

    The infamous Project Blue Book report into the UFO phenomena was also
    _supposedly_ an "independent enquiry". In actuality, it was set up to
    white wash the whole UFO issue and publish utterly misleading conclusions.
    (where 'misleading conclusions' means _lies_)

    I rather like the story that emerged some decades after the USA
    dropped nuclear bombs on Japan. Prior to the testing of the first
    hydrogen bomb prototypes out in the desert, some senior scientists
    were anxious that the detonation of atomic bombs on raised
    platforms might ignite the atmosphere... (since there's lots of
    hydrogen in the atmosphere, right). There was no independent
    enquiry about this... the military decided to go ahead with
    the tests anyway. Question: Would the US military take risks
    that might result in the destruction of the planet. Answer: They did.

    Let's not forget that the Hadron Collider is a very big, very expensive
    experiment. If they knew the results of these experiments they
    wouldn't be running them. In other words, they _don't_ know
    what's going to happen. Ultimately, they are taking a risk... with
    the lives of the scientists, with Geneva, with Switzerland.. etc.

    be happy

    lucidity :-)

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    Default Re: Quantum Physicist Warns CERN's LHC Could Destroy The Planet

    There's probably a number of secret projects already going on around the world where they are trying to open or keep open portals. Cern may just be a front like NASA, in any event they would not make public their true intentions.

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    Default Re: Quantum Physicist Warns CERN's LHC Could Destroy The Planet

    If CERN were to be a real threat to the planet, how come the place isn't buzzing with UFOs? They are supposed to be seen around nuclear test facilities and missile sites so why not CERN if it's such a threat?

    There are those who 'know' aliens exist and 'know' they are concerned about us and what we are ignorantly doing.

    So why no CERN UFO footage from the locals?

    Nick

    PS: The 'ignite the atmosphere' comment in post #8 was made before the very first atom bomb test explosion, nothing to do with later H-bombs. It also had nothing to do with hydrogen in the atmosphere. There was a fleeting concern voiced by Teller that the Manhattan Project test would set off a chain reaction leading to fusion of nitrogen nuclei. They decided that wasn't possible and went ahead anyway...

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    Default Re: Quantum Physicist Warns CERN's LHC Could Destroy The Planet

    CERN (who is about to destroy the planet with the LHC without even knowing what they are doing) posted the following:

    Quote Posted by Academician Vitaly Ginzburg, Nobel Laureate in Physics, Lebedev Institute, Moscow, and Russian Academy of Sciences

    "To think that LHC particle collisions at high energies can lead to dangerous black holes is rubbish. Such rumors were spread by unqualified people seeking sensation or publicity."
    Quote Posted by Prof. Sheldon Glashow, Nobel Laureate in Physics, Boston University, Prof. Frank Wilczek, Nobel Laureate in Physics, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Prof. Richard Wilson, Mallinckrodt Professor of Physics, Harvard University

    "The operation of the LHC is safe, not only in the old sense of that word, but in the more general sense that our most qualified scientists have thoroughly considered and analyzed the risks involved in the operation of the LHC. [Any concerns] are merely hypothetical and speculative, and contradicted by much evidence and scientific analysis."
    Quote Posted by Prof. Steven Hawking, Lucasian Professor of Mathematics, Cambridge University

    "The world will not come to an end when the LHC turns on. The LHC is absolutely safe. ... Collisions releasing greater energy occur millions of times a day in the earth's atmosphere and nothing terrible happens."
    Quote Posted by Prof. Edward Kolb, Astrophysicist, University of Chicago

    "Nature has already done this experiment. ... Cosmic rays have hit the moon with more energy and have not produced a black hole that has swallowed up the moon. The universe doesn't go around popping off huge black holes."
    Quote Posted by Prof. Sir Roger Penrose, Former Rouse Ball Professor of Mathematics, Oxford University

    "I certainly have no worries at all about the purported possibility of LHC producing microscopic black holes capable of eating up the Earth. There is no scientific basis whatever for such wild speculations."
    Quote Posted by Prof. Lord Martin Rees, UK Astronomer Royal and President of the Royal Society of London

    "There is no risk [in LHC collisions, and] the LSAG report is excellent."
    Quote Posted by Academician V.A. Rubakov, Institute for Nuclear Research, Moscow, and Russian Academy of Sciences

    "Those who have doubts about LHC safety should read LSAG report where all possible risks were considered. We can be sure that particle collisions at the LHC cannot lead to a catastrophic consequences."
    Quote Posted by R. Aleksan et al., the 20 external members of the CERN Scientific Policy Committee, including Prof. Gerard 't Hooft, Nobel Laureate in Physics.

    "We fully endorse the conclusions of the LSAG report: there is no basis for any concerns about the consequences of new particles or forms of matter that could possibly be produced at the LHC."
    Source: http://press.web.cern.ch/backgrounders/safety-lhc
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    Quote Posted by lucidity (here)
    Hi buares,

    Nice to see you keeping up the establishment end.... again ;-)
    Do you mean the above-mentioned people's end ? Whose end are you keeping up yourself ?
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    Default Re: Quantum Physicist Warns CERN's LHC Could Destroy The Planet

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    Default Re: Quantum Physicist Warns CERN's LHC Could Destroy The Planet

    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    If CERN were to be a real threat to the planet, how come the place isn't buzzing with UFOs? They are supposed to be seen around nuclear test facilities and missile sites so why not CERN if it's such a threat?

    There are those who 'know' aliens exist and 'know' they are concerned about us and what we are ignorantly doing.

    So why no CERN UFO footage from the locals?
    Hi Nick,

    There's no shortage of UFO footage over Geneva:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5fWkoxgvV8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j9VlADB2rs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb8zsZe-Nes
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7OgmzRwErw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfDIOfK4EpI

    be happy

    lucidity :-)
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    Default Re: Quantum Physicist Warns CERN's LHC Could Destroy The Planet

    Thanks for those vids lucidity.

    But I didn't find them very convincing. The last one was the most interesting, but it was so clear there'd have been lots of reports if real. And you can hear the guy videoing light a cigarette at 50 seconds! What? And no vocalisations of amazement, just a casual cough at 1 min 11 sec!

    I'm looking for stuff around the CERN site, like those that buzz nuclear sites - but that rarely get photographed.

    Nick

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    Default Re: Quantum Physicist Warns CERN's LHC Could Destroy The Planet

    The UFOs seen over Geneva have nothing to do with the LHC. Why would a spaceship hover above a facility that is as deep as 175 meters (574 ft) below the ground ? To warn the innocent population that CERN and the LHC are pure evil and are about to engulf them in a local black hole for the benefit of the reptilian ruling elite ? There are many reasons to be afraid of science but there is absolutely no reason to be afraid of science-fiction because science-fiction is just that: science-fiction, it is not science.

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    Default Re: Quantum Physicist Warns CERN's LHC Could Destroy The Planet

    Thank you for this...Gotswami's quotes seemed a bit over the top. Good eye - glad you spotted the note in the comments. I'll follow up on this with Dr. Farrell.

    Also, I've fixed the link above. Thank you!

    Quote Posted by buares (here)
    Quote Posted by Star Tsar (here)
    That first link is dead cursichella1
    Click on this link: http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/201...tum-physicist/ and replace the stars (****) in the URL with the correct letters.

    Notice in the comments section of http://gizadeathstar.com/2015/02/cer...at-were-doing/:

    Quote Posted by MxFusion, February 28 at 11:00 am

    I just contacted Dr. Goswami via his website and he quickly sent me back an email stating it was a satire and that he has contacted the website in question and has received no replies.

    He asked for suggestions as to what to do next. I replied to contact Joseph and he would get a fair minded hearing here.

    So, Joseph, perhaps you will be receiving an email from Dr. Goswami. Keep an eye out. Maybe you could arrange an interview with him about CERN and such

    mxlance
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    Default Re: Quantum Physicist Warns CERN's LHC Could Destroy The Planet

    if you go to the CERN website, look for the article on a quantum computing breakthrough late last year,
    also an article from last month, talking about a breakthrough in quantum computing to the degree of being 100x as much memory as its predecessor,

    this will scale beyond human comprehension once a few more tweaks are accomplished,

    please read up on the fictional work "Steins gate" (japanese story) about an organization called "SERN" that has a monopoly on time travel and teleportation,
    also the phenomenon known as the D-mail (a message sent through time)

    etc....

    it's not scifi anymore, but happening now, in our lifetimes.

    whether or not the LHC being fired up again causes a reality storm, chaos before and after, is inconsequential in light of what these quantum computers will be able to make possible.

    they will be able not only to simulate but create, by virtue of their own magical simplicity,
    things that would otherwise have taken every particle in the universe to compute or more...

    magic has become mundane and in the grasp of big money.




    woe to the human race indeed...


    read up on Nostradamus if you don't believe this thread or its source,
    other people said it before this Indian man!

    it's not just crap.
    it's a valid future that humans should be aware of.






    Quote http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/60153
    CERN COURIER
    Feb 23, 2015
    Quantum memory sticks?

    Quantum information offers the possibility of unbreakable encryption. Manjin Zhong of the Australian National University in Canberra and colleagues have now made a quantum hard-drive with storage time 100 times better than possible previously. Using a ground-state hyperfine transition of europium ions in yttrium orthosilicate, and optically detected nuclear magnetic resonance techniques, the researchers achieved a decoherence rate for qubits of 8 × 10–5 per second over 100 ms – the timescale for light transmission at a global scale.

    With dynamic decoupling, they reached coherence times of 370±60 minutes at 2 K. This is six hours of quantum storage, making it possible to imagine carrying quantum information in the future not via photons, but stored on quantum memory sticks. In addition to its obvious commercial importance, this work also opens the way to tests of quantum entanglement over very long distances.

    Further reading
    M Zhong et al. 2015 Nature 517 177.



    http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/60149

    http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/54018


    michael crichton's haunting story:

    Quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_%28novel%29



    In the middle of the New Mexico desert, a vacationing couple comes across an ill man wandering miles from town. They find the man, Joe Traub, is a physicist and an employee of a company called ITC. However, ITC's headquarters are mysteriously far from where Traub was found. Traub soon dies of a cardiac arrest. The hospital receives an MRI scan later, which reveals that Traub's blood veins did not match up to each other. Traub, being the last of his family, is taken and cremated by ITC to prevent any further evidence about his death from coming through to the public.

    In the Dordogne region of France, Professor Edward Johnston leads a team of historians and archaeologists studying the remains of the medieval towns of Castelgard and La Roque. Suspicious of the detailed knowledge of the site shown by ITC (their funder), Johnston flies to ITC's headquarters in New Mexico to investigate. While he is gone, the archeologists make a startling discovery in the ruins; a lens from a pair of glasses as well as parchment with a request for help written in modern English, apparently in Professor Johnston's handwriting.

    Researchers Chris Hughes, Kate Erickson, André Marek and David Stern fly to ITC and meet Robert Doniger, its founder, who tells them Johnston has used their quantum technology to travel to Dordogne in the year 1357, but has not returned as expected. Chris, Kate, and Marek agree to travel back themselves to find him. Stern remains behind, distrusting ITC's technology and believing they aren't telling them everything. They dress in period-specific clothing, but Doniger allows only biodegradable modern advances to go back, banning plastic and weapons.

    When they arrive in the past, the team is plagued by misfortune. They are attacked by a group of horsemen led by Sir Guy, who kills the ITC military escorts and causing a grenade sneaked on the mission to go to the present, destroying the transit pad. Unable to return, Kate and Marek are taken away by the men of Lord Oliver of Castelgard.

    Separated from the others, Chris accidentally declares himself as a noble to a boy who helps him and is led to Castelgard. The boy is revealed to be the Lady Claire in disguise, trying to escape from the leader of the horsemen, Sir Guy de Malegant. In the castle, Chris and André Marek find themselves challenged to a joust by Sir Guy and his second, Sir Charles de Gaune. Chris, instructed by Marek, lies on the ground after Sir Guy hits him on the chest on his second run. While Marek fights with Sir Charles de Gaune, Sir Guy tries to kill Chris. However, André fights with Sir Guy and manages to beat him. Lord Oliver orders the death of André and Chris, but Kate helps them escape Castelgard and they are pursued by Guy and his knight Sir Robert de Kere.

    Lord Oliver believes that Johnston knows a secret passageway into the otherwise impenetrable castle of La Roque. Oliver's enemy Arnaut de Cervole, otherwise known as the Archpriest, is approaching the Dordogne to lay siege and Oliver wants the secret to defend La Roque. Johnston helps Oliver develop a weapon despite knowing that historically Oliver loses the siege, while Chris, André, and Kate use clues from the future to search for the passage themselves. Chris realizes that someone else is in the past with them and spying on their transmissions. Eventually Robert de Kere reveals that he is Rob Deckard, an ITC employee and former marine driven insane from the accumulation of "transcription errors," deformities that build up over multiple quantum trips. De Kere intends to take their trip home for himself.

    Meanwhile at ITC, Stern and the vice president, Gordon, try desperately to repair the transit pads. It is revealed that Doniger is trying to use the past as a marketing tool.

    After Lady Claire helps Kate, Chris, and André elude Arnaut's men, André enters La Roque as Johnston's assistant while Chris and Kate discover the passage. As Arnaut begins his siege, Oliver decides that Johnston is hiding information and takes him to a torture device known as Milady's Bath to drown him. Kate fights and kills Guy on the rafters of the Great Hall, while André and Chris are able to rescue Johnston when Arnaut himself intervenes and defeats Oliver in a duel. Arnaut thanks them and leaves Oliver to die. As the battle rages, de Kere attacks Chris to get his ceramic marker, but Chris manages to set him on fire with Johnston's automatic fire and spittle.

    ITC and Stern finally repair the landing area just in time for the travelers to return. André—who realizes he has longed for this life—decides to remain in the past with Lady Claire while Chris, Kate, and Johnston return to 1999. When it becomes clear that Doniger had little regard for the lives of the travelers, the researchers and engineers, mainly John Gordon, send him to 1348—the outbreak of the Black Death.

    In the epilogue, Chris and Kate are expecting a child together. The researchers find André and Lady Claire's graves and discover that André lived out a good and satisfying life. His gravestone reads a message in French to his companions, quoted from Richard Lionheart, – "Companions whom I loved, and still do love, ... tell them, my song."



    the grandfather paradox, and saying a prayer to saturn for unity:

    Quote In 1991, David Deutsch[2] came up with a proposal for the time evolution equations, with special note as to how it resolves the grandfather paradox and nondeterminism. However, his resolution to the grandfather paradox is considered unsatisfactory to some people, because it states the time traveller reenters another parallel universe, and that the actual quantum state is a quantum superposition of states where the time traveller does and does not exist.
    see also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelg%C3%A4nger


    the destroyers

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echthroi

    Echthroi (Ἐχθροί) is a Greek plural meaning "The Enemy" (literally "enemies"). The singular form of the word, Echthros (Ἐχθρός), is used in many versions and translations of the Bible for "enemy".

    Historically used primarily in connection with biblical and classical subjects,[1] the term has more recently been used to refer to a fictitious type of evil being, principally in Madeleine L'Engle's "Time Quartet". A personification of the forces of impersonalization and nihilism,[2] they exist in both the macrocosmic and microcosmic level, counteracted principally by what L'Engle refers to as "Naming", or re-integration of a character with its best-motivated identity ('true self').[2] These concepts appear in one form or another in a number of L'Engle's books, as part of her recurring themes of good versus evil, interdependency, and the role of the individual in the cosmic scheme of things.






    seeing yourself is an age old OMEN OF DOOM.

    In fiction and folklore, a doppelgänger or doppelgaenger (/ˈdɒp(ə)lˌɡɛŋə/ or /-ˌɡæŋə/; German: [ˈdɔpəlˌɡɛŋɐ] ( listen), literally "double-goer") is a look-alike or double of a living person, sometimes portrayed as a paranormal phenomenon, and in some traditions as a harbinger of bad luck.






    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_paradox


    Quote The grandfather paradox is a proposed paradox of time travel first described by the science fiction writer Nathaniel Schachner in his short story Ancestral Voices[1] and by René Barjavel in his 1943 book Le Voyageur Imprudent (Future Times Three).[2] The paradox is described as follows: the time traveller goes back in time and kills his grandfather before his grandfather meets his grandmother. As a result, the time traveller is never born. But, if he was never born, then he is unable to travel through time and kill his grandfather, which means the traveller would then be born after all, and so on.

    Despite the name, the grandfather paradox does not exclusively regard the impossibility of one's own birth. Rather, it regards any action that eliminates the cause or means of traveling back in time. The paradox's namesake example is merely the most commonly thought of when one considers the whole range of possible actions. Another example would be using scientific knowledge to invent a time machine, then going back in time and (whether through murder or otherwise) impeding a scientist's work that would eventually lead to the invention of the time machine. An equivalent paradox is known (in philosophy) as autoinfanticide, going back in time and killing oneself as a baby.[3]

    Assuming the causal link between the time traveller's present and future, the grandfather paradox that disrupts that link may be regarded as impossible (thus precluding the arbitrary alteration of one's fate). However, a number of hypotheses have been postulated[citation needed] to avoid the paradox, such as the idea that the past is unchangeable, so the grandfather must have already survived the attempted killing (as stated earlier); or the time traveller creates—or joins—an alternate timeline or parallel universe[4] in which the traveller was never born.

    A variant of the grandfather paradox is the Hitler paradox or Hitler's murder paradox,[5] a fairly frequent trope in science fiction, in which the protagonist travels back in time to murder Adolf Hitler before he can instigate World War II. Rather than necessarily physically preventing time travel, the action removes any reason for the travel, along with any knowledge that the reason ever existed, thus removing any point in travelling in time in the first place.[6] Additionally, the consequences of Hitler's existence are so monumental and all-encompassing that for anyone born in the decades after World War II, it is likely that the grandfather paradox would directly apply in some way.[7]


    what do they REALLY KNOW, and think will happen:

    Quote Saturn Devouring His Son is the name given to a painting by Spanish artist Francisco Goya. According to the traditional interpretation, it depicts the Greek myth of the Titan Cronus (in the title Romanised to Saturn), who, fearing that he would be overthrown by one of his children,[1] ate each one upon their birth. The work is one of the 14 Black Paintings that Goya painted directly onto the walls of his house sometime between 1819 and 1823. It was transferred to canvas after Goya's death and has since been held in the Museo del Prado in Madrid.



    Quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annihilation

    Annihilation is defined as "total destruction" or "complete obliteration" of an object;[1] having its root in the Latin nihil (nothing). A literal translation is "to make into nothing".

    In physics, the word is used to denote the process that occurs when a subatomic particle collides with its respective antiparticle, such as an electron colliding with a positron.[2] Since energy and momentum must be conserved, the particles are simply transformed into new particles. They do not disappear from existence. Antiparticles have exactly opposite additive quantum numbers from particles, so the sums of all quantum numbers of the original pair are zero. Hence, any set of particles may be produced whose total quantum numbers are also zero as long as conservation of energy and conservation of momentum are obeyed. When a particle and its antiparticle collide, their energy is converted into a force carrier particle, such as a gluon, W/Z force carrier particle, or a photon. These particles are afterwards transformed into other particles.[3]

    During a low-energy annihilation, photon production is favored, since these particles have no mass. However, high-energy particle colliders produce annihilations where a wide variety of exotic heavy particles are created.

    Quote In Maya mythology, Camazotz (/kämäˈsots/) (alternate spellings Cama-Zotz, Sotz, Zotz) was a bat god. Camazotz means "death bat" in the K'iche' language. In Mesoamerica the bat was associated with night, death, and sacrifice.[1]

    a family account of the "mayan days of darkness" from goldenageofgaia:

    Quote http://goldenageofgaia.com/the-2012-...tory-has-legs/

    The theme has been taken up by other commentators of the “end times.” Here for instance is a native writer who relates a story her grandmother used to tell and calls it “Three Days Of Darkness, A Mayan Story.”

    “My Granny was scolding we children when we was very young… she told us we knew nothing of the challenge of the darkness. She said when she was very young, she and all the people woke up to no sun. She said she was so frightened for it was very dark without the sun and also too cold. She told me and my brothers and my sisters and my cousins that we take too much for granted, that we take for granted the sunshine and the moonshine, but that we would never do this again when we had lived through the three days of darkness.

    “Granny said that the elders knew right away what to do in this time of no sun and no light. That this time had always been prophesied by the elders and had happened many, many times before. The wise people always prepared for this darkness by saving the old tortillas (corn tortilla chips). And so the elders began to build the fires, for the fires must be lit or the darkness can drive some to madness. And the people began to pray together and sing together and burn the tortillas together for this is the sacred food that the Gods desire. Granny says that the smoke of the tortilla carries the message to the Gods to please bring back the sun.

    “My Granny said that when the people become too wicked, when we forget to worship the Gods and have respect for all life, that the Gods block out the sun to remind us of the sacred ways and the importance of worship and of gratitude for life. She said that for three long days, the villagers prayed and prayed and prayed together and to cease their hunger, they not only burnt the tortilla but also ate it. She said that the h’men (the shamans) would begin to get excited and happy as they felt their prayers being received and then the darkness would lift. She said in her time it took three long days but that she had heard stories of the darkness taking longer to leave. She said the Gods only return the light when enough people were praying in earnest.

    “My Granny said the darkness would come again because it always comes, because the people always stray far from their Creator and must be reminded time and time and time again… My Granny told us to behave well with good intentions. She told us this story to keep alive the memories and the knowledge of what to expect and of what to do. And so right now I save my old tortillas and I gather my firewood and I prepare my children and grandchildren with the stories because my body tells me that the time is almost here.” (1)

    From time to time, New-Age or fundamentalist sites shout that three days of darkness will descend with some expected celestial event

    the mystery of the wise and the foolish virgins:



    its as simple as preparing for the night.

    Quote The Parable of the Wise and Foolish Virgins:

    Matthew 25.1-13

    “Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.

    2 Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish.

    3 Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them,

    4 but the wise took oil in their vessels (jars, flasks) with (in addition to) their lamps.

    5 But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept.

    6 “And at midnight a cry was heard: ‘Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!’

    7 Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps.

    8 And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’

    9 But the wise answered, saying, ‘No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.’

    10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut.

    11 “Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’

    12 But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.’

    13 “Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wrinkle_in_Time

    Quote The children then travel to the dark planet of Camazotz which is entirely dominated by the Black Thing. Meg's father is trapped there. They find that all the inhabitants behave in a mechanistic way and seem to be all under the control of a single mind. At the planet's central headquarters (described as CENTRAL Central Intelligence) they discover a red-eyed man with telepathic abilities who can cast a hypnotic spell over their minds. He claims to know the whereabouts of their father. Charles Wallace deliberately looks into the red eyes of the man allowing himself to be taken over by the mind controlling planet in order to find their father. Under its influence, he takes Meg and Calvin to the place where Dr. Murry is being held prisoner because he would not succumb to the group mind. The planet turns out to be controlled by an evil disembodied brain with powerful telepathic abilities, which the inhabitants of Camazotz call "IT". Charles Wallace takes them to the place where IT is held, and in such close proximity to IT, are threatened by a possible telepathic takeover of their minds. With special powers from Mrs Who's glasses, Dr. Murry is able to "tesser" Calvin, Meg and himself away from Camazotz, but Charles Wallace is left behind, still under the influence of IT. The experience of tessering through The Black Thing nearly kills Meg, because Mr. Murry does not know how to protect her from the Black Thing which surrounds the planet. When they arrive on the neighboring planet of Ixchel, Meg is nearly frozen and paralyzed. Calvin and the Murrys are discovered by the planet's inhabitants: large, sightless "beasts" with tentacles and four arms who prove both wise and gentle. Meg's paralysis is cured under the care of one inhabitant, whom Meg nicknames "Aunt Beast". Meg also overcomes her anger at her father for leaving Charles Wallace on Camazotz, while realizing that parents can't fix everything and sometimes children can solve problems themselves.

    When the trio of Mrs Whatsit, Mrs Who, and Mrs Which arrive, they charge Meg with rescuing Charles Wallace from IT, because only Meg has a strong enough bond with him, as their father had last seen Charles Wallace when he was a baby and Calvin had only just met him. They each give her gifts. Mrs Whatsit gives Meg her love. Mrs Who quotes to Meg a passage from the Bible about God choosing the foolish of the world to confound the wise, and the weak to confound the strong. Mrs Which tells Meg that she has one thing that IT does not have. Upon arriving at the building where IT is housed, Charles Wallace is still there under IT's influence. Meg realizes that the one thing she has that IT does not is love. She focuses all her love at Charles Wallace and is able to free him from IT's control. Mrs. Who, Mrs. Which and Mrs. Whatsit tesser the Murrys and Calvin back to Earth, where they are reunited with Mrs. Murry and the twins. Mrs. Whatsit says that, although she and the others like the spectacle of the family reuniting, they have to go somewhere. However, before Mrs. Whatsit finishes her sentence she and the others disappear.





    the absolute proof of what I am saying is in the math shown in the picture above,
    the 8/5 ratio in the image beside the face, a gear on one side with 8 teeth and on the other 5 teeth,


    Quote 8:5
    16:10, also known as 8:5, is an aspect ratio mostly used for computer displays and tablet computers. The width of the display is 1.6 times its height. This ratio is close to the golden ratio " " which is approximately 1.618.



    and finally frank:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butlerian_Jihad

    Quote The Butlerian Jihad is an event in the back-story of Frank Herbert's fictional Dune universe. Occurring over 10,000 years before the events chronicled in his 1965 novel Dune, this jihad leads to the outlawing of certain technologies, primarily "thinking machines," a collective term for computers and artificial intelligence of any kind. This prohibition is a key influence on the nature of Herbert's fictional setting.[1]

    Herbert coined the name in honor of his friend, Frank Butler (who later worked as an attorney in Stanwood, Washington), because of a community movement Butler helped set in motion which resulted in the cancellation of the building of the R.H. Thomson Expressway through Seattle in 1970.[2]
    Quote Deus ex machina (Latin: [ˈdeʊs ɛks ˈmaː.kʰɪ.naː]: /ˈdeɪ.əs ɛks ˈmɑːkiːnə/ or /ˈdiːəs ɛks ˈmækɨnə/;[1] plural: dei ex machina) is a calque from Greek ἀπὸ μηχανῆς θεός (apò mēkhanês theós), meaning "god from the machine".[2] The term has evolved to mean a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability or object. Depending on how it is done, it can be intended to move the story forward when the writer has "painted himself into a corner" and sees no other way out, to surprise the audience, to bring the tale to a happy ending, or as a comedic device.
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    Thanks Naste.

    It was an operatic dance performance filmed inside CERN, called "Symmetry". It tells the story of a CERN researcher who rediscovers love through the song and dance of the infinite cosmos.

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    "Symmetry," its website says, is an operatic sci-fi dance performance based on the work being performed at CERN.

    It follows Lukas -- played by the film's choreographer Lukas Timulak -- a CERN physicist, hard at work using the LHC to search for the smallest particle in existence , when a ghostly woman played by soprano Claron McFadden appears, asking him if he loves the particle more than he loves himself, and, if he could, would he become one with the particle.

    As Lukas increasingly tries to focus on his work, Claron's message becomes more insistent, as she carries him through time in search of answers -- tearing him away from the timelessness of physics and pointing him towards the timelessness of love and music.

    As he travels through time and inside himself, the claustrophobic, machine setting of the Large Hadron Collider gives way to the bare, open, natural setting of Bolivia's Salar de Uyuni, the world's largest salt flat. The film becomes a study of complementary contrasts: art, science, dance, particle physics, computations, nature, the nanoscale and the universal.

    "I didn't want to make a documentary to explain or understand modern physics in general, but rather interpret the complex material this institution is presenting," director Ruben van Leer told The Creators Project.

    "And this is also what for me an opera film could do; give space for the audience to make up their own story, with their own imagination and make a journey like Lukas within themselves: a tiny, personal, world changing quantum-story."

    read more: http://www.cnet.com/news/operatic-da...d-inside-cern/

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    However, as can be seen in the promotional video naste.de.lumina posted, the dancers are performing a ritualistic like dance, similar in style to the Shiva Dance (or Dance of Destruction) just one week ahead of the firing up of the particle accelerator next week.
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    Quote The statue of Nataraja, the Cosmic Dancer, Dr. Aymar, DG of CERN, Dr. Anil Kakodkar, Chairman of the Indian Atomic Energy Commission and Secretary to the Government of India
    Source: CERN Director General Outlines Seven-point Strategy for European Laboratory

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